How Cost effective is solar power? - ELECTRICAL BOAT TECH (7 of 7) - Sailing Vessel Delos
This discussion is centered around the cost effectiveness of solar panels and lithium batteries, mounting of your panels, and many other FAQ's listed below:
Are solar panels cost effective?
How have prices for solar decreased since we first installed them?
Are Lithium batteries cost effective?
What wire gauge should you use for a solar charge controller?
Pro’s and Cons for a solar arch?
Can we run our dive compressor and water maker off solar and an inverter?
How much more power do we use on Delos than a “normal” cruising boat?
Is a Hybrid Electric drive a real option for a Bluewater cruising boat?
What would it take to get rid of a diesel generator?
How big is our fridge and freezer compared to a house?
How much does our entire arch and solar panel setup weigh?
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The value of this series to others trying to make these decisions is paramount. Very well done. Way to pay it out to others. Thanks Delos Crew.
My solar is 20 yrs and still going strong.
@Mahalo_83
4 жыл бұрын
How efficient is it though? After what Bryan said it might be worth upgrading.
Hands down the best and most comprehensive explanation of how boat electical systems work, not to mention the real life context your comments give. You find the fine line between nerding out and the practical that, say, my wife would understand. What however helped me the most of all is your initial diagram! That drawing is just amazing, the way it divides up the stages into 4 main groups. That totally demistified everything for me during the planning stage of our new systems on our ageing sailboat. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge Brian! Cheers from SV Huldra in Norway 🍻
Really interesting to see how Delos systems work! Can you do a similar video on your sail handling systems and how they work?
@kcouture77
5 ай бұрын
this is the video I've been dreaming of too!!!
Love this series, and would love to see more like it. Particularly, perhaps, a series on tech (3 separate WiFi networks?!?) going over your networks, storage systems, how you go about getting data while cruising different locales, what software/marine nav systems you use and why, that kinda stuff. One on production would be sweet too.
This series on boat electrical systems is quite educational....thank you so much.
"A lot of knowledge". Truer words haven't been spoken before these ears in a while. This series is very interesting. It is incredible to think how much your book would make! Thank you. I really enjoy your series.
Sent a link to a couple who are Russia's sailing around Australia in a 30ft boat. They appreciated the resources and knowledge. They had just done a large bailout and refit, but I can see then ditching propane for lithium aided electrics. You're helping folks on the other side of the planet!
Thanks, enjoyed the whole technical series.
As always, I loved it; and any video that you disseminate is always on track with me!
Thank you guys so much for this Boat Bits series! I really enjoyed it =)
This is invaluable. Very nice serie, helps a lot.
Great info Brian. Makes me more comfortable in continuing our journey to one day sail because of Delos. Moving to Florida next month!!! Thank you for the inspiration. 🙏
Loving this series, really informative and timely as we are taking an in depth look at our battery situation this winter. Thanks.
You could look into a ‘soft start’ drive for the AC motor on your dive compressor. They have the ability to slowly ramp up the speed and you can set the maximum current draw during start. The only problem might be the compressor might have such a high compression ratio that a current limited motor might not be able to get the compressor over the first compression cycle. A decompression valve might solve that if it is a problem. Of course you would still have the running draw to consider. That would depend on how long you need to run the compressor and how many amp hours you have available in your battery bank. Might be worth the hassle if fuel consumption is a concern.
@svdelos
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, absolutely. I have been looking into those a bit. Of course we would probably end up depleting the bank and need to run the generator to recharge with the amount of solar we have. But technically it could be possible. Check out this one- battlebornbatteries.com/shop/easystart-364-3-ton-soft-starter/
@neliosamch3195
4 жыл бұрын
@@-_-..-_ 400 amp x 24v = 9.6 kw. To run a 2000 watts compressor for 1 hour you will need a low frequency 3kw inverter no need for soft starter. Low frequency inverter can handle the spikes. 100A battery x4=400 amp x. 12v=4.8 kw. 100A battery x4=400÷2=200 amp x24v=4.8 kw 100A battery x4=400÷4=100amp x 48v=4.8 kw To raise the voltage, the amperage is divided Wattage stay the same. To run a 2000 watts compressor for 1 hour you will need a low frequency 3kw inverter no need for soft starter. Low frequency inverter can handle the spikes.
@dave.willard
4 жыл бұрын
Sailing SV Delos I saw a video of this being used for an RV A/C unit running an inverter from a battery bank. It worked well. You might need something a bit bigger for your dive compressor. A good source of inexpensive soft starters can be found at: www.automationdirect.com On a sunny day when you have power to spare it would save you a few bucks.
A 1/4 size fridge for sure to our land based yachts. Great information once again. Thanks Brian! It was a great series.
Informational series like these and interviews with other sailors (like Capt Fatty) are the most amazing and I hope you guys do more of all that. Thank you!!!!
All electric plus having a diesel generator is very smart. Gasoline and propane add much danger to a house, and exponentially to a sailboat. I've learned lots of tips from yall. Plus have found much relaxation through the CORONA problem. A huge THANKS!
Loved this whole series !!! more questions and answer story time.
Brian & Brady: Great and very interesting videos. Maybe 18 mos ago, when you showed the Victron BVM(?) 712 Battery monitor, it appeared perfect for my travel trailer. Bought one and absolutely LOVE it. I can even monitor our battery charge state from the tow vehicle! My guess is when our original lead/acid batteries need replacing, listening to your enthusiasm for lithium, I'll move that way too. So... thank you for the technical discussions. Very helpful, even for us'ins who don't have a sailboat! Keep up the good work. And... off subject a bit... How about bringing Brian, Karin and Sierra back into the video mix a bit. We haven't see much of you three since you departed for Sweden! You're missed!
boats and electricity, my favourites!!! keep them coming please!
I live in Wisconsin. Hot summer month with the air conditioner running 24/7 and a few TV's going constant, plus fridge, stove, lights, laundry. We used 1008 kWh last month or 31.5 per day. Probably 1800 sq/ft ranch including the finished basement. You have more bathrooms than we do! Cost for the electricity was $161.
Thank you so much for sharing your wisdom and knowledge with us each week.
You guys are always very informative - thanks for taking the time!
Thanks so much guys. So much to learn so Brian we're happy you are sharing your ride experiences. Love you guys always!
Hi guys! The off-grid lifestyle is great. ( those who build cabins in the woods want to save energy costs) .. but you guys are more for the adventure of it all. I wish I were sailing with you guys for a few weeks or so now and then... for all that interesting fun. But here "on the hard"...eating in any restaurant anytime every day, and constant internet access and taking those long hot showers really spoils me too .... lol I used to sail (day sailing) years ago.. [ before I had to give up my Casco Bay, Maine cottage in divorce...lol ] I'm retired now so I had a "standard" house/job lifestyle. You guys ( like the log cabin folks) seem to envy some aspects of land-lubber life like: the cooling of A/C and lots of hot-showers. When I look at ALL my only ENERGY & Water ...annual costs and it's not very expensive living conventionally here in a 12 room house in North Jersey ( Gas & Elec = $5.30/day and water =$1.80 ) So about $7 day for total energy-generated comfort year round.
Thanks you for sharing these 7 videos on how the workings of Delos it was very enjoyable ❤️cheers to the Delos family
I saved these for my Saturday evening viewing. I wanted to wait until the seven of seven series were released to sit down and watch the whole series. I totally geeked out as any electrical nerd would. Thank you and the crew for taking the time to put this series together. You, my friend, are a smarty smart pants.👨🎓👖
A LOT of knowledge, excellent series.
This one was exciting😍 can't wait for the new boat and to see your new little family in action ❤ thank you for putting your life out there for us to share😊 much love for y'all 💖
@crispinswainstonharrison9042
4 жыл бұрын
Yes that promised 60 foot arctic monohul is imminent
Love how you guys bring it straight from experience and no BS. It works or it will work or why it doesn't fit your application. I don't have a sail boat but do have a camper... lots of applicable logic! Hoping to see some more dive videos!
Great tech series. I am doing a complete restoration of a 43 year old Alden 44 and will be tackling the electrical system next fall. I love all the great info and it gives me a ton to think about. Cheers!
Yes, and yes. Please make a special playlist of these Electrical Boat Tech!
@svdelos
4 жыл бұрын
Hey! All the boat work videos are here- kzread.info/head/PLQp8FoQ4t-lX7JZR5CHlAMYSIev7HAVA6 the electrical ones are towards the end of the list....
Your weekly video releases are really awesome. Thanks for all the effort in producing them. I've been following your channel for almost 2 years now. It is my goto sailing and LPT (Life Pro Tip) info source. Very cool.
Very good! You guys do a great job explaining the systems and how you use them. Thanks.
Hi Brady and all the crew. I just received my SV Delos Tribe flag in the mail yesterday. Thank you so much for making those available. My flag is a very quality product. Fair winds and following seas. Mike from Seattle.
Thanks for this series, it was a major help.
What a great set of videos. Loved all of them - very instructive
As usual, Delos is tops in covering all aspects of any subject. This is the most thorough and real-world explanation of a cruising boat working electrical system. Top flight!
Thank you for being so detailed with these types of series. Feels like it will be valuable when I start getting into all this myself. Gotta say I’m quite impressed with how easily it seemed that you were able to rattle off all data and descriptions, wondering how much you knew of all this when you started out and how much was just learning bits and pieces over the years of working on Delos itself.
I dig these tech videos. Thanks!
Super helpful information. Thanks!
Thanks for sharing guys!
Great series Brian!
I want to hear your every thought about sails, sail plans, trim, risk in squalls, etc.
Diggin' "Boat Bits with Brian". Definitely experienced, intelligent, crucial information. These videos will definitely save someone probably multiple someone's from taking a "wrong turn". There will for sure be a sailor in the future looking at a sunset or a sunrise on some remote part of an ocean somewhere raising their favorite beverage in the sky and saying "thanks Brian".
I really enjoy these. Good information.
I love your adventure. keep up the videos. I'm way behind in watching. kinda jumping around to get the most info I can from you guys. Plan on going back to the other videos when I can. thanks for the inspiration.
Very nice series.... thanks a lot!
Loved the series! Great information, more please!
Great job guys! Loved this series.
Great videos packed with helpful information, thanks a lot! For me it looks like there is just one thing without full backup: Knowledge 😉
Great video, I will be upgrading the electric on a 55 ft sailboat that I just bought and you have answered a lot of questions.
Now it is 2022 and I just bought 405 Wp panels for less than 200 USD each. They weigh about 19 kg, bit large (176 x 105 cm) but they do the job. I installed 3.2 Kwp on my boat, 2000 Ah on the batteries, so should be able to run the whole boat without the need of my generator and that is exactly what I was hoping for. Used your flow diagram as an example, thanks for these series ! Great information.
Thank you for this tech series. Good stuff!
Thanks for all the knowledge 💚💚💚
I liked the series. Very educational,
Very timely for us. We just went lithium with Battle Born and will be adding solar and wind, good discussion. We really enjoy watching you guys!
I am a little late to this party. Thanks for running through these particulars for Delos. Most of my maritime work is with Outward Bound, so we cannot even compare power consumption. Your system is closer to my off-the-grid house. In April we increase to 1300w of solar. Your description of the benefits of LiFePO4 batteries has me planning for when we can replace our lead acid set. 3.5x the cost is a leap of faith that the claims of longevity will pay off. I see that you have increased your solar a bit more than just compensating for the removal of the center panel on the arch for the dome. When you have a chance, a follow up to this series to comment on your changes would be wonderful. Thank you. Safe passage south.
Great series on your power systems. A lot of useful information.
Thanks. I appreciated lots of interesting informations and also the quality of the image and the tonality. The sereine behaviour of the people around the table made it very confortable to follow quite a long technical conversation.
Great series subject guys!
Love those tech videos, would certainly not complain if there were more. We've recently added an Atlantic Tower Arch (we've choose the heavy duty one - sch 80), with 2X 225 watt solar on it. Installation went smoothly. Now thinking on updating the batteries with lithium.
I really enjoyed this series, Thanks
Perfect content for me! More videos like this!
I average 150 AH per day. Haven't needed my Genny in a year. 1kw solar, 500 watts wind and 432 AH battery capacity. Large frig, separate freezer, able to run water heater off inverter. Don't have a water maker or dive compressor.
Thanks guys, great stuff.
Very interesting. Thank you
I really like these videos as they help me dream realistically.
Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge. Although we only have a 22 foot Tanzer, some of this info applies. Parasitic loads, LED lights, generation capacity. Good stuff.
Nice job everyone! Lot's of useful information.
very useful. Thanks
These have been great guys! Thanks!
Excellent series.
really well explained, everybody should be able to understand that information, well done, i like these technical vlogs!!
#7 vid is a winner!
Great content, I like your channel enough to let the commercials run through!!😎
Cool knowledge to use!
great video. thanks for sharing your thoughts on electrical tech
Thank you guys so much !
Don't want to jump in on this in fan boy fashion, BUT these series of technical videos are fantastic. In fact, I would also comment, and I am sure that Brady doesn't remember, but about 1 1/2 to 2 years ago I actually shot him a question via email about a tender, and he answered and gave me some great advice. I appreciate the series, and I appreciate how you respond to your viewers. Great job boys. Keep it up.
Well done on these interesting videos, good help especially for me for setting up my boat since i am doing a full refit
We've got an Atlantic Tower arch. We're very happy with it!!
Brian, these videos help me prepare for having my own boat especially the videos about electricity. Would you do one about diesel engine troubleshooting and routine maintenance? These things can be pretty overwhelming, but necessary, when I am also working to become a really good sailor.
As the previous owner of several mini-fridges, I have to say I'm impressed...look at the real estate in that thing! I am having some definite mini-fridge envy right now. it looked like you could put 3 entire jugs of OJ in that door alone.
Fun to have something to watch every day ! All good information. Still looking for review on Maggie
High value content with this. Thanks guys. Happy and safe sailing!!!. Just a thing to try (unrelated to this video sorry), when I'm tuna fishing, sometimes the fish will follow you, not so interested in the jig you are dragging. I'm a commercial fisherman so it's okay if I just jog the autopilot by a couple dodges in an s motion. Not so good for you guys, but, I'll play with the jig when I'm not catching my by pulling it in and out in different speeds usually garners more action. Kinda like not wanting it until they think they will loose it so they go ahead and strike at the jig for keeps.
Awesome series. Thank you 4 sharing :-) Jay
Love it!
Thank you.
This is amazing, thank you for providing all of these important information specially that it comes out of experience
Great video guys. Yes, we have no generator and we do everything on solar. We just added a few more panels to our system, so we now have 2000W of solar. That’s enough to run our dishwasher daily and it’s just so much power we almost stop conserving it. “Almost” since good habits are bad to break.
As always enjoyed the video and looking forward to the next. The gear that goes into everyday life on board is an interesting subject.
Good sh*t, I like all the hints for when we finally get out there.
I’m 65 years old, single, a broadcast engineer by trade, and I plan to retire in 2023, and move to Florida. A small condo and a 30ish ft sailboat is my plan. I have watched almost every episode of SV Delos in the past two years. Thanks for sharing your experiences.
Brian great series look forward to the next one
Great series!
Thank you for all this✌️
Fantastic! Thanks for the info.
good segment