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How computers generate RANDOMNESS from math
A computer's just a bunch of wires that can do calculations right? there shouldn't be a way to arbitrarily pick random numbers, because computers are deterministic, and the same calculation should give you the same output each time.
In this video, we'll find out how computers get around this problem.
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Absolutely love your video. I was coding in Python, and i was using "random" library when I suddenly realised "How is a computer, the most pattern based machine in the world, able to generate randomness?".
@yOkay_
Жыл бұрын
@@retroguardian4802 so let's program in rust
@egaLwie.
Жыл бұрын
@@yOkay_ no let's do it in chicken
@nemiw4429
Жыл бұрын
Same. 0:31 Im watching the video, never looked into it, but Im pretty sure its impossible. 1:07 ok, thought so. U cant explain a machine "give me random".
@KarTandir
11 ай бұрын
i was studying wave function of an electron an suddenly asked myself the same question lol
This is such a good, brief yet detailed explanation! Thank you!
Okay… but where do you get the seeds from? You’re just saying “pick a number”, isn’t that basically random?
@TonyZhang01
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah so the only way to do that is getting it from somewhere else (time of day, temperature, increasing the seed by one each time, etc). Or you can just use the same seed and continue with the sequence of numbers
@talkingmurga5554
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, generally in multiple programs the seed is set by the user. In other cases it is taken from time or/and hardware data.
Pseudo random is what we call it in computer science...
I thought it was always from current milliseconds by 32 decimal places.
@king_james_official
2 жыл бұрын
depends what algorithm the software is using. a lot of time it combines time, mouse movement, cpu load, ram usage, maybe even microphone input
Oogwey was right all along
Which means slots are not unpredictable and random. I've been studying slots and patterns and I've noticed patterns that tend to win even amongst all the "randomness."
I'm trying to find the type that can create organic art very fast... hopefully each out of a billion numbers like perlin noise combined with mandelbrot
Hey,nice explanation and i really appreciate your work. Nice rendering of manim ,it would be really helpful if you can share the manim file for the animations in this video.
@TonyZhang01
2 жыл бұрын
Here it is! gist.github.com/Tony1324/7ca1f41b8ab79847f4cd6e77619acab6
Mate, you're incredibly good! Thanks a lot and wishing you the best!
@Ish21823
Жыл бұрын
nah
Great video. I hope you make more!
For more secure randomly generated numbers, other than changing the seed, is it possible/wise to also change the mathematical equation every cycle?
@TonyZhang01
Жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure that the numbers for the algorithm itself are chosen specifically to work well, and it’s pretty easy to accidentally use a equation that just gives the same number over and over. Also just choosing the seed means that you will have an equal distribution of the numbers
@veteransniper6955
2 ай бұрын
Length of random data you feed in determines true randomness of the output. You can reduce true randomness by choosing inappropriate algorithms but can't increase it. If there is desire for more secure random numbers, I think focus should be on getting more randomness from some entropy source(s), while algorithms also important, but they can't do what they can't do, i.e. provide true randomness from nowhere.
Hello sir (91 club colour predition) a game janrate 0 to 9 rendom number computer method Is it possible to guess what the next number will be?
Thanks for the information!
I like the animations very well explained.
Random numbers: Gargoogolchime = 10^2,000 Gogolbong = 10^50,000,000 Guppyminutia = 10^-20 Guppyminex = 10^-10^20 Guppychunk = 10^15
Lotto results seem to mention Random number generator. Whereas they always are Specific number generators.
Thanks! I now understand xor generator :D
Thank you so much for explaining! Can you please tell me what's the name of the texts transition? Like the effect name..
@TonyZhang01
2 жыл бұрын
I used www.manim.community, the same animation thing used by 3 blue 1 brown. I actually made a whole video about it: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gYOMz8R7XbjXncY.html
Nice explanation!
I'm new to programming. So when we use the random() method in python how is the seed determined there?
Very good explanation, thanks.
At 3:01 you say Xorshift is “more robust” than a Linear Congruential Generator without defining in what way that you claim Xorshift is “more robust”.
@TonyZhang01
2 жыл бұрын
That's fair, I guess at the time I just meant a more widely used and more complex algorithm
@alessandrorossi1294
2 жыл бұрын
@@TonyZhang01 ok. robustness is defined by asymptotic analysis on an algorithm and is not a synonym for "popular" or "good". it is a property that will be robust with respect to some variation that winds up not effecting the property. this is important since usually some imperfection, randomness, or noise in your initial conditions is considered likely, so you want a property of an algorithm to be "robust" against imperfections in your initial assumptions, as opposed to being "highly sensitive to initial conditions". however for a pseudo-random number generated you don't want the numbers produced to be "robust" you would prefer them to be highly sensitive to initial conditions because you want them to be hard to predict or to say anything else. the only property of a pseudo-random number generator you would want to be robust is its ability to pass statistical randomness tests over multiple trials. check out martin lof randomness
It always annoyed me in c hoe relatively hard is is to get a random number
The Xorshift is more comprehensive
Underrated
Thanks for the video, It's a very good example, but the simplest way in my opinion is using logic gates output from flip flops.
Nothing is random but pseudo random in this world.
When I realized this concept it kinda led to understand the idea of 'consequenstialism' or whatever. I geuss I believe in destiny
@jacc7203
2 жыл бұрын
Thats determinism. Consequentialism is the idea that what makes an action wrong is its consequences. For example, a consequentialist would say that punching someone is bad because it causes them pain.
@tylerwatrouse8602
2 жыл бұрын
@@jacc7203 oh I see interesting xD. I geuss I'm both! Hope your doing good wherever you come from
@jacc7203
2 жыл бұрын
@@tylerwatrouse8602 you too
5:02 I wish you were female youtuber so I could take it. 😢
@Momoyon
2 жыл бұрын
What
@Jamesdavey358
2 жыл бұрын
Take what? Why does he have to be a woman? Whats at 5:02 ? Too many questions
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