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How Combat Evolved was downgraded on MCC | How the original is being lost to time (THEY FIXED IT)

Halo CE.. Is being forgotten. In today's video we will talk about how the buggy and technically inferior Gearbox Software port of the game is slowly replacing the original game.
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  • @zelefant1482
    @zelefant14823 жыл бұрын

    They're finally fixing this, it makes me so happy

  • @Jdog47892

    @Jdog47892

    3 жыл бұрын

    yeeee

  • @kamaboko117

    @kamaboko117

    3 жыл бұрын

    source?

  • @PsychoKrueger

    @PsychoKrueger

    3 жыл бұрын

    The day that patch drops will be glorious !

  • @JoelBauer360

    @JoelBauer360

    3 жыл бұрын

    The update has already been released or is it necessary to wait? Just today I started halo ce in the MCC after many years and seeing this I prefer to wait for the game to look like I remember it.

  • @NoStringsAttachedPrd

    @NoStringsAttachedPrd

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@JoelBauer360 Not yet, it's only just been announced in that link that they're doing some stuff. Sounds like it'll be in the next update with Season 7

  • @BadVideoWatcher1
    @BadVideoWatcher15 жыл бұрын

    Bungie: "What if you miss?" Gearbox: "I won't." Gearbox: *Misses*

  • @theendofit

    @theendofit

    5 жыл бұрын

    Can you really call a massive success a miss? Lol

  • @LordVader1094

    @LordVader1094

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@theendofit The PC version wasn't a massive success, did you even watch the video?

  • @theendofit

    @theendofit

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@LordVader1094 it's still heavly being played today and sold very well. It was also very stable (it does not crash easily) for a port. So much so that's the main reason it was used for the anaversary version. Yes it looks worse but it was still a success by all actuall measurable standards.

  • @LordVader1094

    @LordVader1094

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@theendofit Being played often because it's the only version available does not mean it was a success on a technical level. It literally explains in the video that the only reason it's used in the anniversary version is because it has working online multiplayer. So no, it's not a success by all actual measurable standards. It succeeded in one thing and one thing only: workable multiplayer. In all other ways, it fails.

  • @theendofit

    @theendofit

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@LordVader1094 ok whell im pretty sure every game company ever would be happy to have fails like halo ce as it still sold amazingly and is still being played despite there being 2 billion other games that pepole could be playing yet still has enough fans that think its worth playing. if it was truly as bad as you are making it out to be most pepole would have left it. its still great its just not as great as it could have been. all things considered this are all minor issues in the long run. and no the reason they used the ce verison over the orginal was not because of the multiplayer. the main reason why is becuase the main work of porting it onto other hardware was already done they had made it so it could more easily be run on anything. the xbox orginal verison could only run on an xbox. why start from scratch and have to do a massive amount of work just to try to re due whats already done. you might as well remake the game if thats your mentality. second while the orginal did not have online it had system link wich is reltivly easy to turn into an online mode all the ground work for making halo online was in there at launch as they planed it to be online but had to cut it late as xbox live was no where near ready. so it would not be a factor in decideding witch version to build off of.

  • @shivalah
    @shivalah5 жыл бұрын

    "Cortana doesn't change Colour when she is angry." I knew something was very wrong with this scene! I couldn't point my finger on it.

  • @matthewcarter549

    @matthewcarter549

    5 жыл бұрын

    so glad someone else noticed

  • @user-tm3fz7qx3s

    @user-tm3fz7qx3s

    5 жыл бұрын

    Same

  • @jake3523

    @jake3523

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Hitly96 thanks, I knew something was wrong with his comment, but I couldn't elephant my finger on it.

  • @warreng675

    @warreng675

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah put

  • @skullunatorofficial2547

    @skullunatorofficial2547

    5 жыл бұрын

    In my case, the mission where you save keys and you see the shield on the hanger bay doors, I noticed something wasn't right about that either.

  • @InterDimensionalLizard
    @InterDimensionalLizard4 жыл бұрын

    Looks like this didn't get fixed for the PC version of MCC. Edit: Or perhaps it did!

  • @shredgordon3240

    @shredgordon3240

    4 жыл бұрын

    Inter-dimensional Lizard I think the shields were fixed

  • @javierititin

    @javierititin

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@shredgordon3240 They're not :(

  • @dxtrum

    @dxtrum

    4 жыл бұрын

    And it got much much worse

  • @sean8102

    @sean8102

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Barricade Bonecrusher Amen. The dynamic soundtrack mixing engine is fucked. It's super noticeable, and I really hope it gets fixed. Halo's music is so iconic and the looping/mixing is awful on PC.

  • @TheMagicQsGaming

    @TheMagicQsGaming

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Barricade Bonecrusher Or the audio of some guns holding/looping.

  • @klenk12
    @klenk124 жыл бұрын

    I hate you for pointing this out. I was living in blissful ignorance, enjoying mcc, and now ill never be able to unsee it 😢

  • @tinyman1144

    @tinyman1144

    4 жыл бұрын

    You know whats weird, is my version of mcc (except the shield walls in truth and rec and the no color change on cortana) looks like the xbox version shown in this video. But then a lot of my games are weirdly slightly different to most people's... or maybe I was just way too high to notice those lesser differences. Now I gotta go play halo ce campaign again to "check" :D

  • @xPancakes4lyf

    @xPancakes4lyf

    4 жыл бұрын

    literally me too!!!

  • @Insanabiliter_In_Linea

    @Insanabiliter_In_Linea

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@tinyman1144 Go to Assault on the Control Room and look up at the sky when you're outside, in the original the cliff walls faded to white as they're obscured by the fog, but in MCC and the PC port you can see the tops of them through the fog, making this ugly sort of black line in the sky. Sadly I've never been able to get high enough to not notice it :(

  • @xPancakes4lyf

    @xPancakes4lyf

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Egbert Wadman come, join us brother (or sister) join the PC side....

  • @naruto_0988

    @naruto_0988

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tinyman1144 gross

  • @raiderbeast8357
    @raiderbeast83575 жыл бұрын

    Weird how Gearbox messing up just one line of code can cause so many issu- *Flashbacks to Aliens Colonial Marines* Oh god no

  • @huytungnguyen119

    @huytungnguyen119

    5 жыл бұрын

    Raiderbeast 83 That time when Gearbox messed up 1 code and made the AI freakin dumb, modders even fixed that code and made the game a little bit better.

  • @kabob0077

    @kabob0077

    5 жыл бұрын

    Raiderbeast 83 Some guy at Gearbox probably screamed "OH GOD IT'S HAPPENED AGAIN!" after learning THAT fuck up.

  • @Schytheron

    @Schytheron

    5 жыл бұрын

    Gearbox literally doesn't know how to code anything besides Borderlands. VERSATILITY 0

  • @BullworthGraduate

    @BullworthGraduate

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Schytheron - They knew how to code _Brothers In Arms_ back when they made those games.

  • @aces5thalternateaccount464

    @aces5thalternateaccount464

    5 жыл бұрын

    I loved Aliens: Colonial Marines.

  • @Johnny.senpai
    @Johnny.senpai5 жыл бұрын

    Damn never realised how much better the original xbox looked over mcc

  • @ChaseBoogie345

    @ChaseBoogie345

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah

  • @JustinBallard117

    @JustinBallard117

    5 жыл бұрын

    Same with everything from bungie lol. The art in their games is EXTREMELY inviting and i miss the more realistic\cod esque look halo used to have. Thats what really made halo stand out imo but everything from 343 including their remasters completely butchers it. And dont tell me that infinite does exactly that cause while they got the feels right (which even then i still think martys work is far cooler) the art and visuals are DEFINITELY not on par, its like a kid did those lol. bungie still takes the cake in those aspects without question.

  • @LemorasCards

    @LemorasCards

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@JustinBallard117 has anything definitive from Infinite even been shown yet? Pretty sure it hasn't.

  • @m.infernal

    @m.infernal

    5 жыл бұрын

    That's more upsetting to me than you know.

  • @jacobstarr9010

    @jacobstarr9010

    5 жыл бұрын

    343 plz watch this

  • @michaelpewat
    @michaelpewat4 жыл бұрын

    2:28 Out of all the times to have a missing footage, this really needed one

  • @mrandrossguy9871

    @mrandrossguy9871

    4 жыл бұрын

    Michael Pewatualuk I guess just look up X-Box Haloce on Google pics ?

  • @StrikerTheHedgefox

    @StrikerTheHedgefox

    4 жыл бұрын

    Agreed. A huge oversight that dulls the point.

  • @odstkefro3343

    @odstkefro3343

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@mrandrossguy9871 I know right. Has KZread but not chrome would be a wierd excuse.

  • @PresidentSunday

    @PresidentSunday

    4 жыл бұрын

    Laziness.

  • @M0rshu64

    @M0rshu64

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@PresidentSunday just like gearbox. Huh, maybe that was the point LNG was trying to make

  • @Joke65_
    @Joke65_5 жыл бұрын

    It's understandable that 343 would use a version that supported online play, but it's a tragedy that it means the original game is slowly fading away.

  • @LateNightHalo

    @LateNightHalo

    5 жыл бұрын

    Joke65 and Friends! When you’re on a limited budget and timescale (which CEA was) I would have made the same choices. I can only hope 343 revisits it and restores the original

  • @chrisfratz

    @chrisfratz

    5 жыл бұрын

    I heard that 343 did reach out to the people that made the refined campaign for custom edition most likely just to get ideas on what was needed to be fixed

  • @hollystlocal2242

    @hollystlocal2242

    5 жыл бұрын

    Late Night Gaming OG’s are replicated. Never replaced.

  • @feartheghus

    @feartheghus

    5 жыл бұрын

    The original game has been dead though, and the stuff that can run it is going out.

  • @kowin447

    @kowin447

    5 жыл бұрын

    Still got my original ce copy I’ll definitely never forget it

  • @pbateman4124
    @pbateman41245 жыл бұрын

    Been playing Halo CE on PC since I was a kid. Never knew about this. I've been living a lie.

  • @ashleyjohansson230

    @ashleyjohansson230

    5 жыл бұрын

    My pc version looks exactly like the original xbox version, don't know where that weird downgrade version came from

  • @yotornadoyo

    @yotornadoyo

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@ashleyjohansson230 Do you have the xbox version or how do you know?

  • @biggiecheese5135

    @biggiecheese5135

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@ashleyjohansson230 Same dude! I've always played PC, never had an xbox, but my PC version from a decade ago looked exactly like the xbox version he's describing. Granted, I obviously pirated that game, so maybe I got a properly modded version? To answer yotornadoyo's question, everything he described in this video about transparent shaders and bumpmapping was non existent in my version, Cortana did change colors when she got angry, the windows and shields all looked fine and turned red when shot at, and I didn't need a flashlight to see the proper details, although on that last bit I'm not 100%% certain my memory is perfect, I may be over remembering how detailed it looked, but in general, these are all new issues that I'm only just hearing about for the first time.

  • @ashleyjohansson230

    @ashleyjohansson230

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@yotornadoyo i have both, they look the same except its actually better on pc since i edited the ini to make it 1080p

  • @mattymatt2323

    @mattymatt2323

    5 жыл бұрын

    you poor poor soul

  • @WSTBrenden
    @WSTBrenden4 жыл бұрын

    Bungie:"Bet you can't stick it" Gearbox:"Probably won't"

  • @xx_th3_h0ly_sh1t_xx5

    @xx_th3_h0ly_sh1t_xx5

    4 жыл бұрын

    “What if you miss?” “You’re on”

  • @draven4464

    @draven4464

    4 жыл бұрын

    The MCC collection still has more soul than any of those deadass 'Destiny' games. Destiny was a slap in the face to anyone who supported Bungie

  • @bidenswetvagoogoo2001

    @bidenswetvagoogoo2001

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@draven4464 I still rather a "new" storyline and game by a company that made my childhood better than a souless, downgraded and crappy version made by an incompetent company like 343. You gotta admit their mistakes dude, i don´t really know how or why the people that didn´t leave with Bungie decided to take this direction with their own IP.

  • @BiodegradableYTP
    @BiodegradableYTP4 жыл бұрын

    Christ, how does GearBox keep getting work? They really bloody suck.

  • @ThunderStruck115

    @ThunderStruck115

    3 жыл бұрын

    Probably because of Borderlands, which is like the only thing they're good at

  • @jamesbarnes5769

    @jamesbarnes5769

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Why are we still here Just to suffer absolutely love Opposing Force! Possibly my favorite Half-Life back in the day lol

  • @nasty7400

    @nasty7400

    2 жыл бұрын

    Brothers in arms is good by gearbox

  • @xxxxxx5868

    @xxxxxx5868

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ThunderStruck115 Borderlands isn't even that good, the only reason it's famous is because of the "2 billion guns" thing.

  • @ThunderStruck115

    @ThunderStruck115

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@xxxxxx5868 Borderlands is great (OK, maybe not the First game because of How Janky it is). What crack are you smoking?

  • @xxgrimriverxx9845
    @xxgrimriverxx98455 жыл бұрын

    So it's not always true when people say "nostalgia makes you remember things being better than what they were". In Halo:CE's case it actually was better then. lol

  • @gabrieldavis1109

    @gabrieldavis1109

    5 жыл бұрын

    xXGrimRiverXx exactly! Brings a damn tear to my eye....

  • @sonder006

    @sonder006

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Higher Power lol wtf is an upscaler? You mean a TV?

  • @razor_no1

    @razor_no1

    5 жыл бұрын

    The worst thing about this is that I see the differences the whole time, and always pointed out that the original Halo on Xbox was graphically much better than the PC-version. But the "Masterrace" douchbags always laughed and told me that the PC-version looks SO MUCH better! 😏 Well, good to know who was always right!

  • @chrisfratz

    @chrisfratz

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@sonder006 he's referring to things like the open source scan converter or the framemeister, occasionally takes a low-resolution analog signal and then digitizes and scales the image to an HD resolution.

  • @quarreneverett4767

    @quarreneverett4767

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's not necessary the monitor. Usually iys bad setup

  • @dhoffnun
    @dhoffnun5 жыл бұрын

    They also screwed up the music! The theme is supposed to play during the action sequences of the opening level... not anymore.

  • @Ebalosus

    @Ebalosus

    4 жыл бұрын

    The music overall for the remasters has generally sucked IMO. I at least appreciate that in CE Anniversary I can choose the pretty graphics *and* the old music, unlike Halo 2 in the MCC.

  • @cleanserofnoobs4162

    @cleanserofnoobs4162

    4 жыл бұрын

    The guitar rifts at the end of Truth and Reconciliation Original soundtrack is not the same as the guitar rifts at the end of the remaster original soundtrack Honest Negotiations. Which is too bad, I would've liked to have heard it in it's remastered form.

  • @r4z0r84

    @r4z0r84

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah you're right Cortana is talking whilst you get the epic music but you only get her talking with generic music

  • @cleanserofnoobs4162

    @cleanserofnoobs4162

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Ken narville Apparently so, especially when it comes to wanting a legit discussion without having shitheads like you pop out of the Grinch's asshole.

  • @pacoelchato1877

    @pacoelchato1877

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Ken narville justifying lazy idiots out to shamelessly steal from you won't get you anywhere.

  • @encephalltl5931
    @encephalltl59314 жыл бұрын

    I started playing the MCC yesterday. During the first chapter of Combat Evolved I noticed these very flat textures. Most videos only compare the "original" and the remastered only on MCC. Thanks a lot for going the extra mile and get that footage of the original. We used to play with eight guys on four television in a friends parents basement. And when i left their mansion early in the morning with my big ass tv on a wheelbarrow, the police picked me up because I looked like a stupid criminal... good times

  • @Masterofcandy4

    @Masterofcandy4

    4 жыл бұрын

    lol what

  • @manixxinam6709

    @manixxinam6709

    4 жыл бұрын

    lol thanks for sharing!

  • @TSPH1992

    @TSPH1992

    4 жыл бұрын

    I noticed that as well when I finished the first mission today

  • @sohummohare6364

    @sohummohare6364

    2 жыл бұрын

    You made this up right

  • @joet7136

    @joet7136

    2 жыл бұрын

    Carried a big ass tv in a wheelbarrow? This has to be from the South.

  • @dngrouscrgo
    @dngrouscrgo4 жыл бұрын

    Bunjie: Halo - Combat Evolved Gearbox: Halo - Combat Regressed

  • @noahspiece8114

    @noahspiece8114

    4 жыл бұрын

    *cough* Combat Devolved *cough*

  • @Hadgerz

    @Hadgerz

    3 жыл бұрын

    Seriously, **Devolved** was right there, you were so close.

  • @daegnaxqelil2733

    @daegnaxqelil2733

    3 жыл бұрын

    bungie*

  • @iainkilcar7463

    @iainkilcar7463

    3 жыл бұрын

    New mcc fixed version- combat repaired

  • @cheshireshadow518
    @cheshireshadow5185 жыл бұрын

    Wait Cortana is supposed to change color in that cutscene???????? jesus I've literally lived my entire Combat Evolved life as a lie

  • @SebReaperGaming

    @SebReaperGaming

    5 жыл бұрын

    download the Refined mod, it's fixed. she pulses green and blue

  • @idkwmytuni

    @idkwmytuni

    5 жыл бұрын

    The original Halo is also like 10 bucks on Xbox

  • @hypershadw

    @hypershadw

    5 жыл бұрын

    There's also supposed to be red and purple in it though not just green and blue... It isn't fully fixed yet

  • @fanamatakecick97

    @fanamatakecick97

    5 жыл бұрын

    Wow

  • @Reveticate

    @Reveticate

    5 жыл бұрын

    Knowing that in the books her holographic projection changes color based on her core temperature (her mood) I would say that this was a deticated decision.

  • @infinitely5123
    @infinitely51234 жыл бұрын

    When I laughed at how the classic graphics looked worse than I remembered from childhood, I didn't realize that this was the actual reason. How does Gearbox ruin almost everything they touch?

  • @unapersona100real6

    @unapersona100real6

    4 жыл бұрын

    idk they just did right borderlands and the hl expansions

  • @RetroFan

    @RetroFan

    4 жыл бұрын

    Cause they suck.

  • @Graywolf_The_45th

    @Graywolf_The_45th

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@unapersona100real6 Borderlands is overrated

  • @unapersona100real6

    @unapersona100real6

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Graywolf_The_45thwhat about the hl expansions

  • @Graywolf_The_45th

    @Graywolf_The_45th

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@unapersona100real6 HL Opposing Force and Blue Shift I actually liked. The HD pack as well I kinda prefer to the vanilla assets in some parts

  • @Carnyzzle
    @Carnyzzle4 жыл бұрын

    This just adds to my theory that gearbox doesn't care about anything that isn't a Borderlands game

  • @FrahdChikun

    @FrahdChikun

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nah, they also don't care for Borderlands, look at 3.

  • @samuelolivier3792

    @samuelolivier3792

    4 жыл бұрын

    Carnyzzle they cared about half life 1, they made 2 awesome dlc and on the ps2 port even added a new co op campaign.

  • @XxgoodbudsxX

    @XxgoodbudsxX

    4 жыл бұрын

    They don't care about borderlands ether. Did you play 3 it's awful

  • @brahmruzek9305

    @brahmruzek9305

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@XxgoodbudsxX not really, but ok

  • @barkingapollo

    @barkingapollo

    4 жыл бұрын

    Are you kidding? BL3 is mess and while I do enjoy the series they are rife with bugs and glitches.

  • @8KilgoreTrout4
    @8KilgoreTrout44 жыл бұрын

    Oh man the extra details on that game, like when you walk up to a rock and then you see all the details.. The OG Xbox was amazing!

  • @aaronweir474
    @aaronweir4745 жыл бұрын

    Well I learned something new today. When I played again, I just assumed it was due to age. Not poor technical foundation

  • @fanamatakecick97

    @fanamatakecick97

    5 жыл бұрын

    Aaron Weir I knew this game was more beautiful than it seems in classic graphics, but this... this abomination by comparison makes me sad

  • @chocchip4172

    @chocchip4172

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@fanamatakecick97 I never got to play CE, but I always thought "They are just saying it's beautiful because they are drunk on nostalgia" but seeing this comparison... Damn.

  • @WaveOfDestiny

    @WaveOfDestiny

    5 жыл бұрын

    The first time i saw the jackal shields on anniversary i knew something wasn't right. They were fascinating and stunning as a kid. I thought they purposedly made them look bad to make you play on anniversary graphics, to make you buy halo 2 anniversary. Also on pc you can't see yellow jackals wich are much stronger than the blue ones in certain difficulties.

  • @GraveUypo

    @GraveUypo

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@chocchip4172 it still doesn't make it a beautiful game. halo ce had terrible, repetitive level design mostly composed of boring copy-paste corridors. Halo 2 looked like a generation leap. It looked miles better and the real time cutscenes were jaw-dropping stuff back then. and quite honestly, it was also a massively better game overall, not just visually.

  • @alqkon

    @alqkon

    5 жыл бұрын

    Aaron Weir i thought the same too he blew my mind, I played the original on Xbox 15 Years ago... and the one on Xbox one the master chief collection always looked weird, that it’s so flat and basic and some game from the 1990’s in classic

  • @PADDLERSOFUSA
    @PADDLERSOFUSA5 жыл бұрын

    I KNEW Cortana changed colors in the original and when I replayed it in the remastered version I had like a Mandela effect thing happen omg

  • @Pathetic_Dart

    @Pathetic_Dart

    5 жыл бұрын

    Are you sure that's what the "Mandella Effect" really does? Because I really can't remember the exact meaning, but I think that's the wrong expression.

  • @data-gnome

    @data-gnome

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Pathetic_Dart The Mandela effect is (as it originated) a phenomenon where a large amount of people collectively remember something specific in one particular way, contrary to how it actualy was. Its namesake being that a large number of people remembered that Nelson Mandela died in prison, when in fact he didn't. Which is strange, concidering how high profile of a person he was. This in turned birthed crazy theories of people unknowingly getting moved over to a parallel universe where the world ended up different in a slightly minute way, or something of that nature.. He remembered something in contrary to what reality seemed to be, so he is not wrong in that he thought that he was experiencing the Mandela effect, when in fact the thing he was playing that was marketed as the "definitive" version of that thing, was actually just a mistake made in a poor port of the thing...

  • @Pathetic_Dart

    @Pathetic_Dart

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@data-gnome Oh, thanks for the information!

  • @walkermorales337

    @walkermorales337

    5 жыл бұрын

    VS Voice something similar happened, I remember reading headlines and stories outlining Keanu Reeves suicide, about a troubling personal life and how money and fame couldn’t help him, but he’s obviously alive

  • @BioClone

    @BioClone

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Pathetic_Dart there is a mandela effect regarding to the mengele effect

  • @joeyvitale24
    @joeyvitale244 жыл бұрын

    I hope this discussion is still going on because the mcc deserves a fixed CE

  • @Drag0n092x
    @Drag0n092x3 жыл бұрын

    I think it’s safe to say this video is responsible for the MCC version being fixed. So thank you.

  • @NazmusLabs

    @NazmusLabs

    3 жыл бұрын

    possibly, yeah! And Allah (S.W.T.) knows best

  • @staryoshi06
    @staryoshi065 жыл бұрын

    That side-by-side comparison video sounds like a really good idea.

  • @FluffyTheRipper

    @FluffyTheRipper

    5 жыл бұрын

    Subscribed! Yes please

  • @waltermercado9152
    @waltermercado91525 жыл бұрын

    "Despite its troubled development" should be Bungie's tagline for all games it creates.

  • @fanamatakecick97

    @fanamatakecick97

    5 жыл бұрын

    Walter Mercado Troubled development = amazing legendary games, apparently

  • @haydenhyde9395

    @haydenhyde9395

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@fanamatakecick97 And also Mighty No. 9

  • @fanamatakecick97

    @fanamatakecick97

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hayden Hyde ?

  • @haydenhyde9395

    @haydenhyde9395

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@fanamatakecick97 Troubled development = extremely not legendary game

  • @fanamatakecick97

    @fanamatakecick97

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hayden Hyde Mighty No. 9 is a game?

  • @mjmanoni
    @mjmanoni4 жыл бұрын

    The PC release of Halo CE on MCC just launched yesterday and it is writhe with issues as well as bump-mapping and transparent shaders STILL NOT FIXED. Please make a follow up to this as the MCC has not resolved the issues. I don't want them to move on to Halo 2 without fixing this =(.

  • @SlyNine

    @SlyNine

    4 жыл бұрын

    😭 Yep still broken

  • @JohnGrahamDoe

    @JohnGrahamDoe

    4 жыл бұрын

    Can confirm. What a disgraceful butchering of a classic. I'm disgusted. I only play on original graphics as well. The updated graphics are interesting and well done, but they are NOT a REMASTER; they are a RE-IMAGINING. Many levels look completely unrecognizable from the original. The most obvious level to see this on is Truth and Reconciliation. The first part of the level is in a desert-like area in the original graphics; the "remastered" graphics make it into a lush forest/jungle area. The same goes for Halo 2 "remastered" graphics. So many of the iconic locales look NOTHING like the original version other than having the same basic geometry.

  • @psychotictrait3757

    @psychotictrait3757

    4 жыл бұрын

    John Graham Doe Woah, I actually really loved Halo 2 anniversary graphics so much more than CE’s ugly anniversary graphics. I have to disagree there.

  • @JohnGrahamDoe

    @JohnGrahamDoe

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@psychotictrait3757 I'm not saying they don't look good, I'm just saying that they don't look like the originals. For example, High Charity does not look at all like the original version. A lot of the colors are completely changed, going from more of a dark magenta to a true purple. Some of the background geometry is also completely changed. It definitely looks good, but it is NOT a remaster. Remastering would be updating the old graphics but maintaining the same style and design. Instead, they completely reimagined the original (usually making changes that cause the games to look more in-sync with future Halo titles). The remasters do look good, but they just stray too far from the originals for me in a lot of areas.

  • @psychotictrait3757

    @psychotictrait3757

    4 жыл бұрын

    John Graham Doe again, I have to disagree. Halo 2A was pretty much the only modern artstyle I loved because it retained a lot of the classic designs but modernized them. Halo CEA anniversary was ugly and tried going for a more Reach look. But everything was so fucking ugly, Espeically Chief’s hunchback of Nortedam armor anniversary armor. New Mombasa actually looks to par with ODSTs interpretation of it.

  • @IonicHyperspace
    @IonicHyperspace4 жыл бұрын

    “Hey Gearbox can you fix Shader_Transparent_Generic to Halo CE?” Gearbox: “Sorry we don’t do that here.”

  • @KilluaZoldyck-de1hq

    @KilluaZoldyck-de1hq

    4 жыл бұрын

    uhhh Shader_Transparent_Generic machine 🅱️roke

  • @GoodBoyRamen
    @GoodBoyRamen4 жыл бұрын

    Someone put Halo:CE in every computer in my school’s library and basically nobody knows about it

  • @tylerkulchinsky2167

    @tylerkulchinsky2167

    4 жыл бұрын

    lol same

  • @girlcrazyrockstar

    @girlcrazyrockstar

    4 жыл бұрын

    That is so cool

  • @NoxianSoulHarvester

    @NoxianSoulHarvester

    4 жыл бұрын

    Plan a secret lan party lol

  • @LoneWolfStuff

    @LoneWolfStuff

    4 жыл бұрын

    @WikiThis Yeah, nowadays its all blocked

  • @ethanross8265

    @ethanross8265

    4 жыл бұрын

    at my highschool we would have LAN matches during lunch in the library

  • @Will057
    @Will0575 жыл бұрын

    I always wondered why MCC Halo CE seemed off. Well now I know.

  • @kylecaetana2124

    @kylecaetana2124

    5 жыл бұрын

    Facts! I always know it didn't feel or look right... use to play that game all the time.. still do on mcc.. but it don't feel right

  • @DefconFG

    @DefconFG

    5 жыл бұрын

    Will This

  • @pododododoehoh3550

    @pododododoehoh3550

    5 жыл бұрын

    Kyle Caetana I only ever played it on pc when I was a kid so I literally never even knew until this day! Wtf

  • @samidejong106

    @samidejong106

    5 жыл бұрын

    Is it the same in the Xbox 360 version?

  • @nintendonerdjoseph

    @nintendonerdjoseph

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@samidejong106 Yes.

  • @GreyWolfLeaderTW
    @GreyWolfLeaderTW9 ай бұрын

    People often are quick to jump to the conclusion that the graphical issues in the PC port of Halo were Gearbox's fault, not knowing they were given an incomplete earlier version of the original source code. Many of these graphical elements were last minute additions to the game, and unfortunately Gearbox didn't have access to them at the time.

  • @MediQate
    @MediQate4 жыл бұрын

    We must make this relevant. Halo CE doesn’t deserve this, if they’re not remaking CE from the ground up for its 20 year anniversary I’ll revolt. 12 teraflops next gen and all this talk about power and speed so they better fucking fix the game that got them where they are.

  • @fantasmacstrp9239

    @fantasmacstrp9239

    4 жыл бұрын

    In my opinion they would be milking CE too much already, and that would delay even more the development of MCC for the PC not to mention Infinite.

  • @MediQate

    @MediQate

    4 жыл бұрын

    Fantasma CSTRP Halo CE got Xbox and Halo where they are and Halo CE Anniversary was a Halo Reach retexture of Gearbox Software's terrible Halo CE PC port.. Combat Evolved deserves a proper remake from the ground up for it's 20th year anniversary and they need to fix classic CE's graphics. They could add forge, theater, online multiplayer, firefight I suppose and make it a full new version of the classic or just stick to the original completely and charge less with no new features. It's an option, nobody NEEDS to buy it and it would be the right thing to do for the game that started it all for the fans that were there from the beginning.

  • @fantasmacstrp9239

    @fantasmacstrp9239

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MediQate Dude, they're not doing it soon considering they have to port 5 halo games to the PC, and finish Halo Infinite. Not to mention it's 343 man, if it was Bungie you would've got the remake you wanted. I mean, you could still enjoy the SPV3 mod. It's pretty sick tbh.

  • @SlyNine

    @SlyNine

    4 жыл бұрын

    Is still using broken graphics! So disappointing!

  • @Ossory88

    @Ossory88

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hear hear. This guy gets it!

  • @ChachoGSX
    @ChachoGSX4 жыл бұрын

    Bumpmapping: Like on Spongebob, when they go in for a close up.

  • @rich1051414

    @rich1051414

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ren and Stimpy! Spongebob stole that gag!

  • @ChachoGSX

    @ChachoGSX

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ren and Stimpy was awesome until they fired the creator.

  • @averyterribleperson5292

    @averyterribleperson5292

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@rich1051414 Actually that's been around since the 50s Looney Toons Cartoons. Also Flapjack did it too.

  • @mattmorales4320

    @mattmorales4320

    4 жыл бұрын

    Wouldn’t that be more akin to LOD as opposed to bumpmapping?

  • @keypath4389

    @keypath4389

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@mattmorales4320 so fun at party huh

  • @matthewscottshea
    @matthewscottshea4 жыл бұрын

    Reminds me of when Rockstar based the HD version of San Andreas on the inferior mobile version because it was quicker and easier to port. Didn't matter that controls where trash and many visual effects were downgraded.

  • @Youdrongo

    @Youdrongo

    4 жыл бұрын

    @ lol so much for it being restored

  • @MaurickSh

    @MaurickSh

    4 жыл бұрын

    Glad I bought the PS2 on PS4 port :D

  • @matthewscottshea

    @matthewscottshea

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MaurickSh I got that version as well. Controls were never the greatest on the PS2 GTA games, but so much better than the HD port. And unlike the PS2 version on PS3, it runs in 1080. Short of owning the original PC version, that's as good as it gets for SA.

  • @lord_vwphaeton1883

    @lord_vwphaeton1883

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hey atleast Halo works. It is playable.

  • @lord_vwphaeton1883

    @lord_vwphaeton1883

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Maicol Baay ok nevermind, I'm VERY wrong.

  • @rentalsnake6542
    @rentalsnake65423 жыл бұрын

    7:37 this is where it really started to sting for me, thanks for highlighting these issues, I never realised that the original game had been tarnished like this, it's sickening that this bastardised version is being remembered as the original Halo and even emulated by other devs.

  • @jackburton307
    @jackburton307 Жыл бұрын

    PLEASE do an update on this with the most recent update to MCC!

  • @Sebal007
    @Sebal0075 жыл бұрын

    *THEY ARE AWARE AND WORKING ON IT* For MCC they use the Gearbox PC-Port code as a base. And this version has A LOT of flaws/bugs/missing when it comes to visual fidelity. Since ~ October 2018, they are diffing the original Xbox PC and MCC Version assets and codes to fix what got lost in translation. It has by no means been forgotten. I'd expect to see the fixes coming when CE is added to the PC MCC version as they are working on making the CustomEdition Maps working in the future, too. They are backporting a lot of stuff. *SOURCE* (Section called "Old School") www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/news/mcc-october-update

  • @mentionethan

    @mentionethan

    5 жыл бұрын

    This comment needs more attention cos it actually shows that although 343 fucked up with halo 4 and 5 they still do really care

  • @robertgardner4508

    @robertgardner4508

    5 жыл бұрын

    I hope this is fixed Yuno better be right.

  • @Br0ccolini

    @Br0ccolini

    5 жыл бұрын

    they also said they are working on it in the new update and have dug out some old dev kits (under community Q&A) www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/news/mcc-development-update-june-2019

  • @Life_and_Gaming

    @Life_and_Gaming

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@mentionethan Halo 4 was dope though, at least narrative wise.

  • @averageperson489

    @averageperson489

    5 жыл бұрын

    I mean it still kinda sucks real bad but ehh

  • @deepism
    @deepism5 жыл бұрын

    I had no idea This is heresy wtf

  • @kabob0077

    @kabob0077

    5 жыл бұрын

    Divinatory Cognition "It was a mistake"- Gearbox "Nay, it was Heresy!"- The Fans

  • @Zontar82

    @Zontar82

    5 жыл бұрын

    unfortunately many players didn't cared, they didn't even started halo ce because "itz old lulz lolz rotfl lmao"

  • @Death_Chopper

    @Death_Chopper

    5 жыл бұрын

    Randy Bitchford strikes again

  • @kabob0077

    @kabob0077

    5 жыл бұрын

    Daniel Hernandez Someone in a certain government correctional facility needs to drag Randy's ass into it.

  • @MrBricks148
    @MrBricks1484 жыл бұрын

    Playing the flighting for PC now and all the issues are still here :/

  • @Hirotoro4692

    @Hirotoro4692

    4 жыл бұрын

    Submit it as tickets. I did. I figure they're working on getting the game stable first.

  • @Bobthehuntedbobcat

    @Bobthehuntedbobcat

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Hirotoro4692 Turns out they neither made the game stable nor fixed the issues in this video

  • @000wolf
    @000wolf4 жыл бұрын

    God, do I loathe Gearbox.

  • @mrnohax5436

    @mrnohax5436

    3 жыл бұрын

    heres a good reason: step 1: play control room on ce step 2: when you reach the bridge look up step 3: *Get Mad*

  • @McCbobbish
    @McCbobbish5 жыл бұрын

    As soon as you showed the original game footage, I instantly remembered. Like, I got a slug of memory from when I was a small child watching my dad play, when I first played it myself, all those memories. How didn't I notice?

  • @jamesgrose510

    @jamesgrose510

    5 жыл бұрын

    "You might not have noticed, but your brain did." -- Harry S. Plinkett

  • @TheGreyShaman

    @TheGreyShaman

    5 жыл бұрын

    McBobbish I can’t speak for you, but I didn’t notice cuz the story is all that mattered to me. But now that someone brought it up in a video it’s hard not to see

  • @robertogurrola7465

    @robertogurrola7465

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's weird how I played the mcc a few weeks back but my memory of it is the og

  • @kuramaleon4499

    @kuramaleon4499

    5 жыл бұрын

    You got lost in the sauce

  • @BetterOnichThanSorry
    @BetterOnichThanSorry5 жыл бұрын

    I swore I noticed a graphical downgrade for the original graphics way back when I played Anniversary on the 360, but when I'd tell others they'd tell me I was crazy. Thank you for giving me closure on this.

  • @ytistrash

    @ytistrash

    5 жыл бұрын

    they called me a madman :)

  • @teh_hunterer

    @teh_hunterer

    5 жыл бұрын

    Same. I knew something was wrong, and I didn't end up playing it all the way through. I remember complaining on a forum and everyone tore me to pieces for disliking it. I swear they fucked up the audio as well. I too feel a lot of closure from this. I also won't be buying MCC if this is the version of the game they use.

  • @xehP

    @xehP

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah man, sure, they called you crazy...

  • @Unethical.Dodgson

    @Unethical.Dodgson

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@xehP Why not? This is the internet.

  • @ComradePilas
    @ComradePilas3 жыл бұрын

    This year, Halo CE would turn 20 years... I really, REALLY hope they do something about this

  • @matthewmagnani2915

    @matthewmagnani2915

    3 жыл бұрын

    They’re doing it! THEY’RE FIXING IT!

  • @rufousthefox9766

    @rufousthefox9766

    3 жыл бұрын

    They've fixed most of the issues in the season 7 update.

  • @SpectorEuro4

    @SpectorEuro4

    Жыл бұрын

    @@matthewmagnani2915 they never fixed jack sh1t

  • @matthewmagnani2915

    @matthewmagnani2915

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SpectorEuro4 It’s not perfect, but it’s definitely an improvement from 2019.

  • @MomJeans1738

    @MomJeans1738

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SpectorEuro4 chill white boy

  • @componentgames
    @componentgames3 жыл бұрын

    And now the cinematic bars are completely broken in Classic. Music triggers are broken as well. Goddamn it. Edit: CE good now. They just need to fix Halo 2 and we good.

  • @santiagocamposrincon5977
    @santiagocamposrincon59775 жыл бұрын

    Do that walktrough please, i think most of us are as padsionate as you for this beloved game, we can't alow it to be forgotten.

  • @nathanrichmond7433

    @nathanrichmond7433

    5 жыл бұрын

    On the og xbox for the better graphics

  • @pododododoehoh3550

    @pododododoehoh3550

    5 жыл бұрын

    Nathan Richmond Wouldn’t the 360 run in the smoothest?

  • @NeoTeAika
    @NeoTeAika5 жыл бұрын

    Damn. I knew about transparency and the glass having broken bump mapping but didn't realize the rest of surfaces were that botched. And KEYES! How the fuck did that happen?

  • @Momo02401

    @Momo02401

    5 жыл бұрын

    Everything we've discovered and have been able to infer shows that the PC port was splintered off from a pre-release build of the xbox build. This would explain why some things are missing or different, like keyes textures being different, hanging vines missing in 343GS, the hud textures differing, and elites not dodging when you zoom. They were likely added/changed near the tail-end of the games development. Don't take that as fact through until confirmed by someone who actually worked on the game. We are pretty confident this is the case though.

  • @protocetid

    @protocetid

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Daddy Max "BL3 iS An EpIc GaMe StOrE eXclUsIVe"

  • @NTripleOne

    @NTripleOne

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Momo02401 I've had this same theory for years - however I don't believe the schism occurred when halo was an xbox game, I believe it happened when halo *became* an xbox game. Halo was *originally* a PC game before it was an xbox game, I believe the gearbox PC port we got isn't actually a port at all, I believe that it's the continuation of the work from the point in time when halo became an xbox title instead of a PC one. I feel it's less of a case that things are broken and more of a case that they're just straight up _unfinished_ .

  • @resijade4342
    @resijade43423 жыл бұрын

    Who should I blame more for this: Gearbox for butchering this so much Or 343i for never fixing it in CEA or MCC

  • @thawkade

    @thawkade

    3 жыл бұрын

    Why not both?

  • @animodium2670

    @animodium2670

    3 жыл бұрын

    What I don't get is why they used the pc port if they used Reach's engine for multiplayer...

  • @JZStudiosonline

    @JZStudiosonline

    3 жыл бұрын

    343. It’s one thing to do a shitty port job, assuming it was kind of rushed and they may not have actually had full access. It’s another thing to remaster the shitty broken port knowingly without fixing literally anything.

  • @TruePacifist201

    @TruePacifist201

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@JZStudiosonline Try the Refined mod. It's not perfect, but it does what it set out to do (fix as much of what Gearbox broke as possible), the only problem I have with it is that the on-screen text (tutorial pop-up boxes, action prompts, and the objective tracker in the pause menu) is frequently misaligned, and can be jarring to look at (worst case I've seen is the tank tutorial on Assault on the Control Room, which literally has the text trying to to escape from the box).

  • @madman407708
    @madman4077085 жыл бұрын

    Oh my god?!? Gearbox, breaking a game?!? Why this is entirely unheard of, they've been such a good studio!?!

  • @fanamatakecick97

    @fanamatakecick97

    5 жыл бұрын

    Perpetual Peter The facetiousness is strong with this one

  • @duncanharrell5009

    @duncanharrell5009

    5 жыл бұрын

    Because they seemingly sabotage any game that isn’t their precious Borderlands.

  • @diddlenfiddle7311

    @diddlenfiddle7311

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@duncanharrell5009 Err Half Life: Opposing Force was an amazing add-on to half life

  • @karrotakun3581

    @karrotakun3581

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'd give a like to your comment, but it's already got the perfect 117.

  • @duncanharrell5009

    @duncanharrell5009

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@karrotakun3581 The hardest of choices require the strongest of wills.

  • @shadepizza4217
    @shadepizza42175 жыл бұрын

    When I played MCC I was thinking, "wow, the new graphics mode is so much better, I don't remember the og version looking this bland and empty"

  • @TheLightningYu

    @TheLightningYu

    4 жыл бұрын

    True, though even for the fact that the OG looked better than the Gearbox one, there is still a huge gap between the Remake & OG for obvious reason.

  • @hunterhalo

    @hunterhalo

    4 жыл бұрын

    Shade Pizza i did remembered becaused i owned both version, it felt weird when i play on my pc but i cant explain how

  • @jamess.7811

    @jamess.7811

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@hunterhalo you don't need the two ed's.

  • @vinnisvidya

    @vinnisvidya

    4 жыл бұрын

    i dunno, old graphics mode made it to where I stopped shooting walls because the hitboxes on cliffs were actually correct

  • @TheMagicQsGaming

    @TheMagicQsGaming

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@vinnisvidya Right! I would go to jump on a ledge or rock, then switch modes to notice why I am falling off.

  • @thelastshartbender758
    @thelastshartbender7583 жыл бұрын

    5:18 IMPOSTER?!?!?!?!!?? WHEN THE KEYES IS SUSSY!!!!!

  • @JoeFusX

    @JoeFusX

    3 жыл бұрын

    i swear to god everywhere i go

  • @crazycsiw6404

    @crazycsiw6404

    3 жыл бұрын

    please dont infect me with it, innersloth's servers are garbage

  • @matthewtalbot6505
    @matthewtalbot65054 жыл бұрын

    Gearbox Interactive’s inability to safeguard Halo: Combat Evolved was a colossal failure.

  • @joey-jw3rj

    @joey-jw3rj

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nay! It was Heresy!

  • @StarMarshal

    @StarMarshal

    4 жыл бұрын

    Gearbox: I will continue my campaign against making good ports.

  • @resijade4342

    @resijade4342

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Javier Garcia actually not sure if this was intentional but he said that hell continue his campaign AGAINST making good ports, as if they will keep making bad ports. Again this may be a mistake though.

  • @Lexie_Tyler05
    @Lexie_Tyler055 жыл бұрын

    I always thought I noticed some serious differences between the original and MCC, especially with the energy shield and hangar shield effects but never thought anything of it until now, thinking it was because the original graphics weren't made for new systems and therefore causing issues. Edit: I suppose I shouldn't be surprised considering Gearbox's track record of broken messes

  • @cherlojomzyaduermanse

    @cherlojomzyaduermanse

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hello there

  • @Deliveredmean42

    @Deliveredmean42

    5 жыл бұрын

    You can see how far Gearbox is in terms of poor quality even back then.

  • @Lexie_Tyler05

    @Lexie_Tyler05

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Nighterlev that's what I'm saying

  • @cherlojomzyaduermanse

    @cherlojomzyaduermanse

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Nighterlev And saber interactive that made the mistake of using it for CEA

  • @jonathanschipper4202
    @jonathanschipper42025 жыл бұрын

    I've got to say it. You really have to admire the respect and dedication that this man has for his craft. He'll take you on a nostalgia trip, while educating you throughout the video. I didn't know what Bump Mapping was until today.

  • @igorthelight

    @igorthelight

    5 жыл бұрын

    Next lesson: normal maps! :-) kzread.info/dash/bejne/aJNhsLCEk5fSos4.html

  • @sirejester1155
    @sirejester11552 жыл бұрын

    Its insane to me that CE looked as beautifal it did when it was released and had so many details with its era

  • @Dilandau87
    @Dilandau874 жыл бұрын

    Hey LNG! With the release of MCC's Halo CE on PC, have you considered doing a follow up to this? I can't help feel like this is really relevant to the flighting of HCE!

  • @giovanni12465

    @giovanni12465

    4 жыл бұрын

    @easy eevee it is

  • @flaquito6296

    @flaquito6296

    4 жыл бұрын

    easy eevee 343 has acknowledged it tho

  • @AaronYoung-zn3so

    @AaronYoung-zn3so

    Күн бұрын

    halo c(o)ck enhancement

  • @HaythamGruxton
    @HaythamGruxton5 жыл бұрын

    That walkthrough with the Refined team sounds great

  • @james4344

    @james4344

    5 жыл бұрын

    Bump this to the heavens, I'm too lazy to break out my old Xbox and check the differences for myself.

  • @brycevo
    @brycevo5 жыл бұрын

    I really hope they can restore Halo to its original. I remember it looking so beautiful, and anniversary Classic felt a little off. Now I know why, Thank you

  • @basilman121

    @basilman121

    5 жыл бұрын

    Glad I have the og game now

  • @cober5768
    @cober57683 жыл бұрын

    Halo CE DX and Sonic Adventure Anniversary The bad ports that everyone played.

  • @IrisCorven
    @IrisCorven4 ай бұрын

    The funniest part about them using it due to its multiplayer capability is that - when Gearbox's port released on PC? The multiplayer was FAMOUSLY busted. The netcode was an absolute mess, and staying connected to a game, or the game not crashing was a rarity for almost a year.

  • @JudgementRyu
    @JudgementRyu4 жыл бұрын

    I just now learned about this. Holy crap what a difference.

  • @FloatyBones77

    @FloatyBones77

    4 жыл бұрын

    JudgementRyu999 yeah. The OG Xbox version even had a bit of pearlescence on the outer layer of the chief's armor.

  • @odstkefro3343

    @odstkefro3343

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@FloatyBones77 wheares in anniversary and MCC his armour is just olive clay

  • @Augmental_Art
    @Augmental_Art5 жыл бұрын

    I always remembered Combat Evolved looking better in my memory, at first I thought it was my nostalgia but now I see I wasn't crazy.

  • @normalcarrot6361

    @normalcarrot6361

    5 жыл бұрын

    Saul Muratalla I couldn’t put my finger on it, but I knew that something was wrong when all crew members wears grey instead of blue and yellow. I’m glad i still have the original version and plays on 360.

  • @ashleyjohansson230

    @ashleyjohansson230

    5 жыл бұрын

    This video lied, only MCC's version is downgraded.

  • @Borgforce

    @Borgforce

    5 жыл бұрын

    I always thought that too! - On another note I always loved looking up to the sky and seeing the other ‘side’ of the halo ring - it made me think where are we going next, what structures there are, what do the landmasses look like closer up. I hated that in the CE:A version the put all that sky in - the weather looked good, but blocked the view of the whole ring, I don’t know if that’s what Bungie wanted to do all along or not... but it took the wonder of it all out for me. (Don’t know if that makes sense?)

  • @normalcarrot6361

    @normalcarrot6361

    5 жыл бұрын

    C. Phillips Yeah, it’s the very reason i fell in love with this game was seeing the ring go up and around, the atmosphere makes since. Xbox version must of had an update because my blue red guys are around now. So I’m doing a all nighter 🤠

  • @stuffedmannequin
    @stuffedmannequin4 жыл бұрын

    This cleared up so many questions I've had. I played OG Halo on Xbox in 2002-2003, and I was always struck by how colorful and lively the world around me was. Recently picked up MCC on the Steam sale and played through it for the first time since. I kept telling myself that the game was old, but I couldn't help but feel something nagging at me that something was wrong.

  • @Nathaniel_Peterson
    @Nathaniel_Peterson3 жыл бұрын

    Everyone noticed the broken sky in Assault on the Control Room, even those who never played the game on the original Xbox. I have no idea how the game was allowed to release in that state.

  • @volkerball85
    @volkerball854 жыл бұрын

    Also, in regards to the shader issues stemming seemingly from one little tiny mistake, keep in mind that Gearbox also fucked up the Alien AI in Colonial Marines *the exact same damned way.*

  • @General_C

    @General_C

    4 жыл бұрын

    ban gearbox

  • @yuca2k1

    @yuca2k1

    4 жыл бұрын

    slightlyoutofreach01 I heard there’s a line of code that could fix that. Read it somewhere online years ago.

  • @shotgunmasterQL

    @shotgunmasterQL

    4 жыл бұрын

    Its not necessarily outright Gearboxes fault, because the people who did the initial mistake were the ones who it was outsourced to. Gearbox paid them pennies and their time window was strict, so obviously they never had the time to even attempt to fix it, and Gearbox themselves probably didnt care enough.

  • @misterpurple9886

    @misterpurple9886

    4 жыл бұрын

    Their only good game series is Borderlands and they stole that idea from a guy named Ben Hibon. Borderlands only came out they way it did due to Code Hunters.

  • @spencerc7819

    @spencerc7819

    4 жыл бұрын

    If you haven't already, go download the Templar GFX Overhaul for Colonial Marines. It changes graphics settings to make the game much darker and have a creepier feel similar to the E3 trailer, plus (and most importantly) it overhauls the Xeno AI so that it hunts in the shadows and will rush you when you're not looking making the game MUCH more intense and fun to play. A friend and I still play online co-op together and the mod works for that too if you both have it.

  • @nelite8817
    @nelite88175 жыл бұрын

    E3 is so close got like around 2 weeks left i think

  • @protosaur

    @protosaur

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'm excited for some sweet infinite news(if there is any)

  • @GlassStatus

    @GlassStatus

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@protosaur I guarantee we'll see infinite at this year's e3

  • @protosaur

    @protosaur

    5 жыл бұрын

    @K John good luck on finals

  • @nelite8817

    @nelite8817

    5 жыл бұрын

    @K John Good luck study hard

  • @vac3060

    @vac3060

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@tp.lovecraft1446 how did you have your finals but you still play mobile Roblox

  • @PhatBoyFresh
    @PhatBoyFresh4 жыл бұрын

    The Pale Horse soundtrack doesn't play when the door opens to the flood bridge on Two Betrayals. There's many areas in the game that are missing the music ques. :(

  • @zodiacthundaga7264
    @zodiacthundaga7264 Жыл бұрын

    Glad they fixed the issues. But I wish the classic graphics were used by default instead of the Anniversary ones.

  • @steveothebassist
    @steveothebassist5 жыл бұрын

    Gearbox: Halo machine broke 343: Understandable, have a great day

  • @Eowen129
    @Eowen1295 жыл бұрын

    i still have my original Halo CE disc and the first Xbox, remember i got on the MCC and was wondering if the graphics were actually that bad, cause i remembered an insane and beautiful game when i first got my Xbox. This just confirms im not halucinating. Thanks for making people aware of this, cause the first halo looked really good for being such an old game

  • @ukl33

    @ukl33

    5 жыл бұрын

    Halocinating.

  • @Ratich

    @Ratich

    5 жыл бұрын

    If you still have the OG Xbox and it still works you should look into removing the clock capacitor so that it doesn't damage it.

  • @Eowen129

    @Eowen129

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Ratich never heard about any issues with the OG Xbox, or are you thinking about the RROD on 360?

  • @Ratich

    @Ratich

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Eowen129 Nope I am talking about the OG Xbox basically there is a capacitor on the motherboard of the OG Xbox that stores time that capacitor starts leaking acid after a while and that acid can damage the motherboard so you may want to get that remove and maybe check of the HDD is failing.

  • @Robbie_Haruna

    @Robbie_Haruna

    4 жыл бұрын

    I mean that's nostalgia for you. Halo 1 was certainly a beautiful game in 2001, but even the original nowadays looks like crap visually. Certainly impressive for its time (which is where the nostalgia comes from,) but hasn't exactly aged gracefully.

  • @joshuaallen1340
    @joshuaallen13403 жыл бұрын

    i had noticed the shields were wrong. i was like man wtf..

  • @56bturn
    @56bturn3 жыл бұрын

    What about how in the OG PC Port Jackal Shields were a single turquoise colour regardless of rank, instead of blue and yellow-orange for Minors and Majors respectively.

  • @NoxianSoulHarvester
    @NoxianSoulHarvester4 жыл бұрын

    I literally remember going "huh this isn't how i remembered combat evolved graphics were they really this bad back then?" NO THEY WEREN'T i fucking knew it

  • @saverofthehumens
    @saverofthehumens4 жыл бұрын

    So essentially, Gearbugs added Skyrim waterfalls to CE. That's an impressive level of shit.

  • @udinamursona1064
    @udinamursona10643 жыл бұрын

    it's 2021 and I just people to know that they've finally fixed these issues addressed in the video.

  • @D1gg3rX
    @D1gg3rX Жыл бұрын

    This video made me realize what i was missing out on when i originally played on the gearbox port

  • @BOTSamJ
    @BOTSamJ5 жыл бұрын

    6:09 BONELESS CE port!!! THE STUFF IS BONELESS DAWG!

  • @kabob0077

    @kabob0077

    5 жыл бұрын

    BOT- Sam.J WHERE'S THE BONES!?

  • @kabob0077

    @kabob0077

    5 жыл бұрын

    TheBunkerBuster 105 Yo man, you ever see that documentary uh.... National Treasure?

  • @Momo02401
    @Momo024015 жыл бұрын

    For anyone interested, here's our internal list of what issues we discovered, what they affect, and how to fix them. www.reddit.com/r/HaloCERefined/comments/9lpk6m/port_issues_masterlist/

  • @DaDARKPass

    @DaDARKPass

    5 жыл бұрын

    I still don't like your team for making that "best version" of the refined mod.

  • @Momo02401

    @Momo02401

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@DaDARKPass it was a joke version that made a lot of people laugh a lot. I'm sorry you didn't enjoy it.

  • @derpyVfoxoX6

    @derpyVfoxoX6

    5 жыл бұрын

    I can't believe I never noticed I knew something was different but I couldn't tell what

  • @hockeymaskbob2942

    @hockeymaskbob2942

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @torinjones3221
    @torinjones3221 Жыл бұрын

    Basically console master race vs PC peasants

  • @Aetheriem

    @Aetheriem

    Жыл бұрын

    Original Xbox master race: Cool cases, discs, manuals Console is built like a tank Badass alien UI / menus Halo 1 and 2 Cool startup No microtransactions Offline play No fortnite PC peasantry: No discs or cool game cases Built like glass, breaks easily Boneless Halo ports Boring casual windows UI Microtransactions galore Requires constant internet Has fortnite og xbox wins.

  • @kype5258
    @kype52583 жыл бұрын

    Holly shit! I Grew up on the PC version! I never felt so bamboozled and deceived before! I didn't know that the version game I was in love with for such a long time is a watered-down lazy corporate lie! I'm so pissed! Gearbox owes me my memories!

  • @chargles301

    @chargles301

    3 жыл бұрын

    This comment makes me laugh so hard

  • @MrDontSmokeKids
    @MrDontSmokeKids5 жыл бұрын

    There was always a gut feeling I had when I would see the "original" graphics on MCC that something seemed off, thank you for scratching that itch of curiosity and annoyance.

  • @FrostyWheats

    @FrostyWheats

    4 жыл бұрын

    MrDontSmokeKids 117 likes

  • @retropulse03
    @retropulse035 жыл бұрын

    Better solution. Put Halo on the Backwards Compatibility program so we can just play the original without relying on after-the-fact sub-standard ports.

  • @daseal1479

    @daseal1479

    5 жыл бұрын

    GENIUS.

  • @littlesnuggle529

    @littlesnuggle529

    5 жыл бұрын

    I mean, it _kinda_ already is backwards compatible because you can just slap the OG game into your Xbox One and play it normally but, of course, there's no multiplayer beyond system link and split screen

  • @retropulse03

    @retropulse03

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@littlesnuggle529 What? You can't play the XBOX copy on your X1. At all. The only MP the original Halo even had was System Link and Split Screen, so I have no idea what you are even talking about.

  • @spacemanapeinc7202

    @spacemanapeinc7202

    4 жыл бұрын

    SkyHighGam3r You can still play it on an Xbox 360, well if you have one.

  • @OrangeSodaKing

    @OrangeSodaKing

    4 жыл бұрын

    But then they can't make as much money off of that.

  • @GlucoseYummy
    @GlucoseYummy2 жыл бұрын

    With the colors and hud being restored in season 8 of mcc I had to back to this video again. I never knew how nostalgic I would feel just to play the game again with the brightness and saturation restored to how it originally was on the og xbox, I'm very grateful that you made this video and spread awareness, I feel like I truly remember this game now!

  • @Jdog47892

    @Jdog47892

    2 жыл бұрын

    is that what the color correction option does in the flight? cuz thats amazing if so i didnt think they'd do that

  • @GlucoseYummy

    @GlucoseYummy

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Jdog47892 yeah try it out if you're in the flight!

  • @annihilatinghalo6221
    @annihilatinghalo62213 жыл бұрын

    It fixed brothers!

  • @gnarkillguch
    @gnarkillguch5 жыл бұрын

    I kept telling my brother that the MCC version was worse than the of Xbox. He refused to believe me. Guess I'll share this video and gloat now.

  • @7thninjaturtle

    @7thninjaturtle

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'd honestly take the much better framerate and online over the very slight improvements the original had

  • @Yakasuki

    @Yakasuki

    5 жыл бұрын

    ​@@7thninjaturtle​ As much as I would agree with you that is not the issue, framerate was not an issue back then. Gearbox botched the PC version of graphical fidelity that didn't cost much if any performance. In otherwords, you could have as many frames as you want but it just wont look as good as it could be.

  • @PunishedCreepswork4
    @PunishedCreepswork45 жыл бұрын

    i played CE on pc originally... damn, i thought that was how it always looked. _THERE GOES MY MEMORIES_

  • @Tygron

    @Tygron

    5 жыл бұрын

    You and me both. I even played a small bit of the Xbox version, I just didn't play long enough to notice.

  • @ashleyjohansson230

    @ashleyjohansson230

    5 жыл бұрын

    This video is actually misleading, the original PC version was actually the same as xbox's. He actually never played the original himself and thinks PC's original version is the same as MCC.

  • @Altroante

    @Altroante

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@ashleyjohansson230 this, exactly. This video is flat out wrong.

  • @thatsneakyneenja2595

    @thatsneakyneenja2595

    5 жыл бұрын

    @microcuts it isn't wrong, he just never specifically states which version he is talking about.

  • @spasecad3t

    @spasecad3t

    5 жыл бұрын

    ​ @@ashleyjohansson230 @microcuts The first PC version of Halo CE was made by Gearbox in 2003 and the graphics were noticeably different to me. What are you talking about? I'd also like to add that the original Xbox game renders differently on newer consoles than on the original Xbox.

  • @Dragoncurse4
    @Dragoncurse42 жыл бұрын

    Did they not implement the update or did they break something again? I'm playing Halo CE in original graphics and the Jackal shields aren't changing colors!?

  • @maydaymemer4660

    @maydaymemer4660

    2 жыл бұрын

    They did release a fix apparently. Did you try sending in a ticket or trouble shooting?

  • @GrumpyIan
    @GrumpyIan4 жыл бұрын

    I just hope 343 fix the audio issue with Reach on MCC.

  • @Spewb

    @Spewb

    4 жыл бұрын

    They probably never will. They knew about it at least 3 months before launch and still have no idea how to fix it because apparently nobody there knows how to make multiple audio layers and adjust volumes individually. I think(?) they raised the volume of the guns a bit but everything else like directional sound is still fucked.

  • @GronGrinder

    @GronGrinder

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Spewb They literally said they are working on it and it is on top priority. You act like they don't know what they are doing. They do.

  • @stevenventura800

    @stevenventura800

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@GronGrinder they don't

  • @hunterromano5562

    @hunterromano5562

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Spewb directional sound is definitely weird in reach. I can hear people sprinting and panting across the map, and be pre firing before they have a clue.

  • @willbo6530
    @willbo65304 жыл бұрын

    “Gearbox broke something...small, but very important.” Another A:CM typo disaster.

  • @wereitsoeasy5733
    @wereitsoeasy57335 жыл бұрын

    I always felt that there was something 'off' about the MCC Halo CE in OG graphics... and now I know why. I played it on the OG xbox since I was 4, it was glaring something was wrong

  • @yarplurch4816

    @yarplurch4816

    5 жыл бұрын

    Me too, except I had kinda forgotten about it. I can still play on my xbox, but the mcc's controls are so smooth it's hard for me to go back

  • @wereitsoeasy5733

    @wereitsoeasy5733

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@yarplurch4816 Yeh thats fair. My original Xbox was my brothers and he moved out unfortunately. I cannot play Halo CE in anniversary graphics - it's just not right hahah

  • @moistvibes5697

    @moistvibes5697

    5 жыл бұрын

    Isn't it backwards compatible with Xbox 360 I remember playing Halo 2 finally again back in 2013,when Xbox one first came out,that day I bought Halo 2 and put it into my 360 and playing it

  • @NyxTheNerd

    @NyxTheNerd

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I did too. I still have my OG copy, but my Xbox is broken and my 360 doesn’t have a HDD, so I can’t play it. My question is how in the hell did they mess up Keyes’ model?

  • @wereitsoeasy5733

    @wereitsoeasy5733

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@NyxTheNerd hahah i guess we'll never know!

  • @gaminclampshow
    @gaminclampshow4 жыл бұрын

    This is kinda like how SEGA ported Sonic Adventure to the GameCube

  • @ayttrmn4008

    @ayttrmn4008

    4 жыл бұрын

    Exactly

  • @IMZ44
    @IMZ443 жыл бұрын

    343 ruined Halo for me personally. The music/sounds, broken audio, and the rest is history

  • @ThunderStruck115
    @ThunderStruck1155 жыл бұрын

    There can be no greater heresy! Let it be an example to all who would break our game!

  • @UnitAlir

    @UnitAlir

    5 жыл бұрын

    Here-tics! Here-tics!

  • @itmaniscrazy
    @itmaniscrazy5 жыл бұрын

    4:50 that seems to be a recurring theme about one line of code blowing a game up with gearbox

  • @Emertxe4

    @Emertxe4

    5 жыл бұрын

    Honestly, if it really is literally one single thing causing the problem, that's probably a good thing. Just means that there's only one thing in one place that they have to fix, as opposed to having to debug everything everywhere.

  • @itmaniscrazy

    @itmaniscrazy

    5 жыл бұрын

    Emertxe well the problem is they don’t fix the one thing, like with aliens colonial marines they had one line of code missing for the aliens and it took someone 4 years to figure out that’s the problem. Unpaid modders are doing the work these people get paid to do professionally

  • @KRawatXP2003
    @KRawatXP20033 жыл бұрын

    Finally the og version on the MCC will be soon coming

  • @lukez9721
    @lukez9721 Жыл бұрын

    They have actually fixed this problem in an update

  • @Lea-pe6iw
    @Lea-pe6iw5 жыл бұрын

    Oh my god. I KNEW something was off when playing Halo1 on MCC. I KNEW it looked worse than I remembered. Thank you for this video.

  • @solaris5303

    @solaris5303

    5 жыл бұрын

    Nostalgia probably took a pretty huge part in that too.

  • @teh_hunterer

    @teh_hunterer

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@solaris5303 Probably not though. Did you watch the video?

  • @solaris5303

    @solaris5303

    5 жыл бұрын

    I did, but nostalgia always warps memories of graphics and you've got to remember most people were playing the OG game on a tiny 4:3. Of course it objectively looks worse now but remembering better visuals than there really were is very, very common.

  • @haydentravis3348

    @haydentravis3348

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's amazing how few people had the original to load up to compare. I noticed right away and had no question, even before I loaded up the original to verify.

  • @scythelord

    @scythelord

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@solaris5303 Nostalgia doesn't have anything to do with it when it's a game you've played in the last year. I often hear people talk of nostalgia being a huge part in making people love some games over others, but well, nostalgia doesn't keep me playing games 20 years after first playing them. Hell I am currently playing through FF7 for probably the thousandth time. Nostalgia doesn't make me love that game more than other final fantasy games. I'd played all the ones before and after it when they were new. That's just the story and gameplay I like the best. Nostalgia can only be a factor if it was something you experienced when you were much younger and many years later just had all your good memories involving that thing, without experiencing it first hand since.

  • @rj009ok
    @rj009ok5 жыл бұрын

    can i have uhhh 🅱️ O N E L E S S Halo Combat Evolve gearbox: yes

  • @TherealEmersonSilva

    @TherealEmersonSilva

    5 жыл бұрын

    DᎥČ𝐊н𝐞Δ𝕕 Name one Halo that got bone in it

  • @nightworld4658

    @nightworld4658

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@TherealEmersonSilva Halo 2

  • @OfficialDJSoru

    @OfficialDJSoru

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@TherealEmersonSilva just don't put them shits on my Halo bruh. If it aint got a bone, iss 🅱️ O N E L E S S

  • @PixelPhoenix

    @PixelPhoenix

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ahaha, read this like you're at McDonalds ordering at the cash register while looking at the menu.

  • @aetherseraph
    @aetherseraph3 жыл бұрын

    The problem is much much deeper than just the visual things you have pointed out. There heart of the game is gone. The game doesn't evolve with you as you play on MCC.

  • @youpeoplearenuts2
    @youpeoplearenuts24 жыл бұрын

    1 thing I have to point out that no one seems to talk about; contrast. The original version had much higher contrast with its colors than the subsequent versions. It's very noticeable in this video with the side to side comparisons. The PC and MCC version's colors look washed out, like a thin film has been placed in front of the screen. Dark colors are lighter, and light colors are darker bringing all the colors closer together. The result is that everything looks muted. Colors don't pop out like they're supposed to.

  • @Jedi_Spartan
    @Jedi_Spartan5 жыл бұрын

    I hope we get the original original graphics in Halo PC

  • @pododododoehoh3550

    @pododododoehoh3550

    5 жыл бұрын

    Jedi Spartan 38 Chances of that are basically zero seeing as it was halos pc port by gearbox that fucked up the graphics in the first place but is also the only version with online play hence why it was used in mcc so they could add classic multiplayer.

  • @davefan16

    @davefan16

    5 жыл бұрын

    Don't count on it

  • @Jedi_Spartan

    @Jedi_Spartan

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@pododododoehoh3550 true. Although, in all honesty, I don't get why the original 2011 version of CEA uses it as it just used Reach's engine for the multiplayer with the Anniversary Map Pack.

  • @Schytheron

    @Schytheron

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@pododododoehoh3550 Yeah. It's highly unlikely. The good part however is that Gearbox isn't doing the MCC PC port. That is mainly handled by Splash Damage who have made some of the best PC ports I've ever seen (Gears of War 4's PC port is close to perfection and Splash Damage was in charge of it). I have full faith that the PC port of MCC will be fantastic.

  • @MinesweepActual

    @MinesweepActual

    5 жыл бұрын

    And on Xbox mcc