How Color Blind People See Games
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In this fourth installment of the post processing series we learn how to simulate color blindness for usability design. If someone with color blindness can't play your game, that's a huge problem!
Topics covered include: How we see color and how color blindness works.
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"let's say, hypothetically, you had eyeballs" wow what a concept
@MelodyGardenia
Жыл бұрын
Men with eyes ❤️❤️❤️❤️
@Olivejohn147
Жыл бұрын
"Let's say, hypothetically, you HAD eyeballs." Of course you don't have them anymore though...
@absolutehuman951
7 ай бұрын
MetaWare High School be like:
4:46 I have deutaneropia and the two sides of that image look the exact same to me, except the stars on the left just seem very slightly brighter... but the colors look the same . . . this is the only image I've seen that's managed to achieve that, I've looked up other comparisons online and I can always tell the difference, but not with this.
@Acerola_t
Жыл бұрын
That's sweet! The paper I talked about is the only resource I've found that produces those kinds of results
@MommysGoodPuppy
Жыл бұрын
if youre curious to a non colorblind person the grass and stars look like completely seperate colors on left red stars and green grass while on right theyre the same color which is a mix of yellow/green
@DialecticRed
Жыл бұрын
@@MommysGoodPuppy It kinda makes me a little sad that I can't see the difference. I actually forget that I'm colorblind a lot of the time because I can see most colors, and in my day to day life I don't struggle with it too often... except for when I'm shopping with people and I'll pick out something I think is a cute brown and then get hit with "wtf that's army green what are you going on about" lmao But yeah, I mean the world looks very colorful and vibrant from my perspective, so it's really hard for me to imagine how it is for everyone else lol
@MommysGoodPuppy
Жыл бұрын
@@DialecticRed i think there exsists glasses that partially fix color blindness
@DialecticRed
Жыл бұрын
@@MommysGoodPuppyI know what your talking about. They were very expensive, but I bought them anyways. When I tried them, they did absolutely nothing (just tinted my vision, didn't help my color perception at all). I then had 3 of my colorblind friends try them, and it didn't work for any of them. I also had 2 colorblind teachers, but it didn't work for them either. The glasses were specifically for deutaneropia, and that was the form of color blindness of everyone who tried it (except one friend who has tritanopia - I feel bad for her). Nonetheless, they were absolutely a complete scam and waste of money. If anyone you know is considering buying those glasses, I would suggest advising them against it.
you have a really cool style. i like your attitude & sense of irony. all your jokes are funny. i like the music you pick. the content is intelligent. editing is great. idk if this is your goal but i can easily see you entertain 1M+ subs one day if you can keep up the work ethic and manage to get a number of viral videos.
@Acerola_t
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! It is my goal to hopefully someday do this full time to support my incredibly degenerate sleeping habits and creative endeavors
@NatanArgente
Жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree with you.
@a_d_z_y__
Жыл бұрын
That is all that came to my mind when I stumbled upon this channel
@questionmarkquestionmarkques
Жыл бұрын
also he leaves the music in the description which is based af. i cant tell how many times ive heard a banger in a video and never been able to listen to it outside of that
@Stowy
Жыл бұрын
@@a_d_z_y__ salut adzy
really nice to see a youtuber who looks into the actual research
I asked this in a subreddit and got downvoted/ didn’t get a straight answer: Why do games/ apps need to implement color blind modes individually; is there not a way for the OS or monitor to apply it’s own filter to the final image? Your videos are awesome btw 👍
@Acerola_t
2 жыл бұрын
Generally it's best to selectively change UI elements for usability, like League does. One option for sure is just hue shifting the entire render into a range that could be seen by color blind people, which is certainly possible to do for games that don't have color blindness options with something like ReShade (uh oh spoiler for next video).
@anthonysilveira6181
2 жыл бұрын
@@Acerola_t I'm curious as to the reason why selectively changing elements is preferable? Is it just easier, better, or are there tech limitation?
@Acerola_t
2 жыл бұрын
@@anthonysilveira6181 I read somewhere that they did a survey of color blind people and they preferred the selective UI changes, but I don't know where I read that lol
@inv41id
Жыл бұрын
@@anthonysilveira6181 If you change the entire image then it'll just plain look weird. Blue grass and red skies would look totally unnatural even to a colour blind person. To them it'd just look weird in a different way.
@Erkle64
Жыл бұрын
AMD video cards, at least my one, have a "Color Deficiency Correction" option that can be applied per monitor. It gives you three sliders labeled Protanopia, Deuteranopia and Tritanopia that you can just experiment with. Of course it's not as good as changing game art but it sure helps for me. imo the best option is things like when Among Us added shapes to the wire task.
There are lots of color schemes available for colorblind people. Most of these are made for websites and regular user interface components, but I'm sure you can adept them to games as well. That way you can make it not only practical but also balanced and good looking for colorblind people. If you have a complex UI in your game, I would definitely look into that.
Talking about examples, I have a bad one: Final Fantasy XIV. Some colors, like the ones used to mark quest areas on the map, are super hard for me to see. They have different color-blind modes tho, and they all _just slap a filter on the whole screen._ Please, don't do this. If sth looks like a green tree to you, it'll look like a green tree to me, even when the color I see is different from your green. It's still the color of the trees outside. What I need is the UI colors to change.
@Acerola_t
Жыл бұрын
I might be able to write a shader that does exactly that for you! My next video is about fixing ff14's graphics and I can see about making a shader that only hue shifts the UI.
@salvadorsanchez5057
Жыл бұрын
rather than hue shifting everything, would something akin to what adobe lightroom does be better? it basically lets you change the hue/sat/value of an entire image but only for certain colors.
Great video! Fun fact, the amount of men that are colorblind is significantly higher than the amount of women (1 in 12 men vs 1 in 200 women). I released a puzzle game on Xbox a couple years ago and it never occurred to me to add a colorblind mode until the reviews started coming in. Shifting colors isn't the only approach to fixing the issue. I went with adding glyphs and icons to the various sprites to differentiate them.
That slick shade at nintendo
On a serious note, I conceptualize colorblind vision as squashing the 3D color space into a 2D plane in a specific way.
My dad is colobrind, so much so that reds and greens look identical to him. And he's in the printing business which is a big disadvantage apparently, but my mom acts a correction factor as she double checks all the colors before printing anything. Anyway, doing this check before releasing the game makes it much more playable for ~10% of your audience which is potentially a huge factor. Thanks for bringing this issue into the spotlight and providing us with a simple shader to check whether or not our games suffer from it.
didnt know tritanopia was so rare, a friend of mine has it, he makes maps for games ironiclly enough lol
Someone asked me to add colorblind support for my game. Without this video I would probably just mistakenly implemented a filter that simulates colorblindness instead, very pog video
@Acerola_t
Жыл бұрын
I tried out other color blind filters and they all look infinitely worse lol this paper is the best one by far
@youtubehandlesux
Жыл бұрын
@@Acerola_tBy the way my personal syntax highlighting theme was deliberately designed to utilize as many different hues as possible, it's literally unusable for colorblind people at least according to colorblind filters, bruh
@youtubehandlesux
Жыл бұрын
@@Acerola_t Oh, also what I meant by "mistakenly implemented a filter that simulates colorblindness" is that some developers would slap a colorblind filter in their game and call it "colorblindness mode" which is very misleading, almost did the same because of how prevalent that phenomenon is
@Ouvii
Жыл бұрын
@@youtubehandlesux I believe Doom 2016 implemented just that, lol. Imagine their embarrassment.
I turn on colorblind mode by opening my eyes
Most people: Ah, that looks awful, so sad. Unaware colorblind people: I see no difference!
did not expect to find a paper from my school here, manuel is a great professor. Great video!
Amazing as always. I need more videos to watch
Acerola, your videos are so interesting and informative. I'd love to see a video created by you that explores water in video games; the rendering, physics, optimization etc. of it.
@Acerola_t
Жыл бұрын
water is on my priority list lol hopefully I can make a video on it before the end of the year. The basics, at least.
@henrysteven137
Жыл бұрын
@@Acerola_t wonderful, can' t wait
The use of the Persona music in your videos make them feel so chill and entertaining
Amazing channel, I learned so much
Just found your channel and its awesome
Another accessibility issue is lack of ability to seperate the speech from almost same-volume music and ambient - in games, but also in video with non-content-oriented sound mixing. It was hard for me to focus on your good and insightful explanations because of that.
just gone binge these, like wow. they are well made!
If you watch the video at X2 it just sounds like a A list of all the terrible things that could happen whenever you take medicine you hear on commercials from news channels
I was playing Minecraft with my friends and he said redstone looked black. I went over an confirmed it was infact red. That was the day he found out he was colorblind
As a gamer and artist with some level of deuteranomaly, this insightful video was genuinely helpful in visualizing how the cones in my eyes fail to function properly sometimes.
This is such a good explanation! This is all fairly unintuitive at a glance, and easily available explanations severely lack detail, so as someone who recently ran into their first colorblindness accessibility issue at work a few weeks ago, this is a fantastic and highly-appreciated resource.
As someone with Red-Green colourblindness, I'm gonna use this shader, Idk what for, but I wanna feel included in my own games lmao.
4:58 i can see color change in sky but grass seems really much the same
@absolutehuman951
7 ай бұрын
Yeah, I agree with that even tho I'm not colourblind. The test scene isn't very suitable as it has very little blue so the difference is quite small.
I learned a lot! thank you! definitely learned most at around 3:02
Wait, I thought I had Prota color blindness but the comparisons you showed tell me otherwise. I noticed the difference between the two sides for Prota, but for Deutera I didn't. I guess I'm part of the majority then (and that you can't trust internet tests very much lol). Great video. Oh, and also, Danganronpa 2 IS my favorite game of the DR franchise, nice choice!
I've got a single problem with color - It is quite hard to distinguish blue going to a violet. I definitely can differ one from another, but there are much more variants exists for the other persons. Looks loke I'm the one with the rarest situation on color-anomaly
I have some kind of Deuteranomaly and when you changed League to simulate colorblindness, it actually made them just a tinier bit easier to tell apart for some reason lol
Also, some people can only see in black and white, but it's very rare
Great video! However, just because you have eyeballs doesn't mean you can see colour like... at all. Fun fact, for people wondering: yes, monochromacy (also called achromatopsia) exists, where the person basically seen in grey scale.
i have deuteranomaly and can confirm arma 3's camo is very effective. Compared to a friend who i play together i look as if i am blind
Thanks!
@Acerola_t
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
Weird! I was always under the impression that M cones contributed the most to our perception of brightness, because of how camera sensors have 2x the number of green pixels and screens often have 2x the number of green pixels. Thought that the sensors and cameras were doing that to replicate our sensitivity to green. But I must have been missing or misunderstanding something.
Yay I'm 7% of the population. I have pretty severe deuteranomaly (reduced sensitivity to green.) I always describe it as my greens being shifted towards yellow and red. Or simply as "muddy yellow." So when you describe the findings of this paper as shifting the sensitivity function. It matches my personal findings, lol.
I have protonomaly and it’s basically just darkened red for me
A) good content, underrated B) I'm color blind thank you for this
Cool video
The funniest and saddest thing for me is that due to this stuff I didn't manage to make good 3d models consistently. The shape has always been alright but making a color scheme is a total stumbling block for me. Almost every time I made a 3d model I would show it to my pals and they would say that it is indeed cool but the color is off and strange. And, of course, asking every time whether the color is ok or not is not the best thing to do, so I completely gave up on doing this
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Okay, but can BLIND people play your game?
@Acerola_t
Жыл бұрын
okay fine I'll make a video about that too
@Pleeze
Жыл бұрын
Even I can make a blind shader to show you how your game looks to blind people
If you want to be even more specific, the L cones don't allow us to see red, but rather interpret longer wavelengths as "RED", the m cones interpret medium wavelengths as "GREEN", and S Cones interpret short wavelengths as "BLUE" (or ultraviolet[Humans can naturally see "Ultraviolet" -> 300nm wavelengths but we have a lens to protect against it, but some people are born without it/get it removed because of eye surgery and never get them replaced]) Colors are a machination of the brain. (Which invokes the idea that everyone might see color, not slightly different, but WILDLY different, since color is simply a neurological interpretation of the wavelength of electromagnetic rays, we could assume that what you see as red I might see COMPLETELY different, or as another color.)
@absolutehuman951
7 ай бұрын
Even more wild than that, different cones have quite an overlap so the colors we call "red" or "green" we actually "see" as mixtures and just interpret them as clear colors. So if for some reason you could trigger the cones separately you would be able to see red several times "more red" and green much more green. I suppose some drugs might be able to get this effect...
Danganronpa was not a game I was expecting to hear 😂
@Acerola_t
2 жыл бұрын
it's your favorite game, hypothetically
until trionopia i didnt even realize, that halve of the image was coloured different. bruh
@aprilruledearth
2 ай бұрын
you might be colorblind, i have deuteranopia and had the same exact experience
"Huh, that's weird? Why does the side by side look the same?"
Acerola more like areola got em
I do really dislike high pitch sped up voices, i'd rather listen to it at one speed
"Lets say, hypothetically you have eyeballs"
A...am I the only one who sees no difference with tritonopia?
@Acerola_t
Жыл бұрын
I have bad news
@youtubehandlesux
Жыл бұрын
F
@robertt1435
7 ай бұрын
hmmm, for me the pic on the left looks quite similar, but the colour scale on the right is significantly different
good vid sad it only has 35 k views
Your videos are cool and all, but ngl i'm here for the persona 3 bgm...
Mom loves acerola
Mans needs a phat nap after this video
i do not understand simple math and am not colorblind but still enjoying the video
danganronpa 2
Kinda sad you didn't explain what your shaders did to simulate colourblindness :(
@Acerola_t
Жыл бұрын
I did, the shader takes in those matrices and does the interpolation between the 2 nearest color transformation matrices.
I hate color blind modes that apply an automatic filter, they either barely work or don't help at all (deuteranomaly). Tip for developers, you can't possibly come up with filters that work for everyone. Simply allow us to change the color of important UI or game elements ourselves, it doesn't even need to be an in game option, an editable config file allowing changing of the RGB values per element is more then enough. NB: To work out if a game/UI element is 'important', make all instances of that element have the same color, if that makes the game hard/impossible, its important.
I'd hate to be the person watching this video thinking "I don't see the difference".
Damn this vid caught my M cones lackin
watching this because how do i see games
Wait cuz I legit can't see color so what am I
As a colorblind person I gotta say most “colorblind options” in games make things even worse
Really? "Danganronpa 2"? Please, don't be ridiculous. It's called "Super Danganronpa 2".
@Acerola_t
Жыл бұрын
my mistake
I actually thought a lot of the colorblind images looked cooler haha
@Acerola_t
10 ай бұрын
I secretly use the filters for a lot of example shots in vids to make them look nicer
I'm protanamaly
obama
seems like a skill issue
looking thru the comments for the people that found out they have colorblindness from this LOL