In my 66 years of walking this earth, I never really put too much thought into this kind of thing. Fascinating in its simplicity. But after a couple of years doing it, I'd probably be bored out of my tree.

@truebluebluetick

Жыл бұрын

Couple years????? Try couple hours

@ep61611

Жыл бұрын

@@truebluebluetick - Sounds like you have a restless spirit. I prefer to keep the jobs I get - especially well-paying jobs.

@truebluebluetick

Жыл бұрын

@@ep61611 haha farmer, drive tractors and combines for a living and it made me think of any time I get to run something new it’s all exciting to start and it wears off pretty fast.

@BlackMan614

Жыл бұрын

It's all automated. From the locomotives w/ a special device which allows them to go slow, to the load-out. It's called flood loading.

I move my charcoal bag the wrong way and create a cloud of dust that blocks out the sun. The fact that there is zero cloud from this machine is crazy.

@falconerd343

Жыл бұрын

Removing dust is one of the reasons coal is washed before shipment.

@johnanderson5325

Жыл бұрын

The coal is washed before it is loaded to help keep down the dust. Plus it removes anything that is not coal.

@laudieveverka7021

Жыл бұрын

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@nicholai40

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, they wash it to prevent explosions as well.

@Helpme_toreach10k

10 ай бұрын

Cuz this is not india bro 😂😂😂😂

My Father hauled coal for residential and business use. He would pull up to the load master with two to four fifths of Ky Bourbon. The operator would break the train ( disconnect ) and push the cars back with a bull dozer. My Father would then drive onto the tracks between the cars for a load. Once full, we'd pull out and drive around the scale house. Minus four fifths but hauling 14 tons of blue gem coal.

@u2bear377

Жыл бұрын

Do I get it right, that was actually _stealing_ coal?

@Trainzfan21century

Жыл бұрын

Trading booze for off-the-books coal? Your dad's a G

Cool process to watch, never knew how it was done. 2003-2006 I worked as a Machinist for UPRR at the Denver North Yard. Majority of freight that passed through was coal coming from the mountain mines usually with 6 locomotives (2 ea front, middle, and rear) for dynamic braking down the hills. Once the consists are parked in the yard hostlers would break up the consist to remove 2 or 3 locomotives that were routed to the fuel track for fueling, add sand, and check/ add oil. The train would be reassembled, air connections made and air tested so it was ready for the next crew to pull the load to a power plant to unload. Usually, only 3 locomotives were needed to pull the load once East or North since the terrain was relatively flat. If the train didn't build pressure in the brake pipe then we had to walk the length of the train to find and correct the air leak. Sometimes it was necessary to have a Carman come out to fix the problem. Also had to set up the DP (distributed power- a way of remotely controlling locomotives from the lead cab so they all worked in unison.) Was a good job until the amount of coal burning was cut way back due to large pollution emissions, which in turn forced UP to close the Denver diesel house maint. facility. Was a great 3 years working there, no regrets and a great learning experience.

@proggravezilla4175

Жыл бұрын

Coal-trains? What coal-trains? I thought the Misleadia has been telling us progressivism's marvelous judgment has turned-off the coal-industry, for climate-lunacy's CommonGood.

@FlyBikes089

11 ай бұрын

Wow great story and, thank you bud! 👍🙏

@nathanjoerndt5021

6 ай бұрын

I have a question!! how much coal is loaded into the cars?? and is it per day, week month, year???

I watched the loading process from over the shoulder of a loadout operator while on a tour about 20 years ago. There's an art to it, constantly tweaking the chute.

Got to be some fast moving conveyor belts bringing coal to the load out in order to fill a hopper car that fast. We see them all the time running on the mainline,few get to see where a coal train begins it's journey. Excellent footage, excellent.

@RivannaRailfan

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, it was really fun to load a coal train!

@turtle1897

Жыл бұрын

Most likely it’s gravity flow

@wallytimmins356

Жыл бұрын

@@turtle1897 But conveyor belts to get it to the gravity drop , I would think.

@simmywilliams4424

Жыл бұрын

@@wallytimmins356 probably has a conveyor filling an overhead bin, which then gravity flows to the car

@turtle1897

Жыл бұрын

@@wallytimmins356 so Wally you have never been to a mill before huh? That’s obvious

Goofy old man that I am, I get great enjoyment outa these movies! Thanks man.

If this is the loadout I'm thinking about, the coal comes out of a silo on the hill across the road from the loadout. The coal comes across the road on a conveyor belt to the top of the loadout where it is weighed by a scale at the top of the loadout, then it drops to a holding bin from which it is then dumped into the hopper car. I worked a couple of years for a company that treats the coal to keep it from freezing in the cars. I worked about a dozen loadouts in southern West Virginia.

@RivannaRailfan

Жыл бұрын

Yes, sounds like Leewood, WV.

@mitchs323

Жыл бұрын

@@RivannaRailfan I treated trains there a few times, one of the nicer loadouts

@williscunningham3109

Жыл бұрын

So this is why those cars of coal be steaming in the winter...cool

@michaelprosperity3420

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the explanation. I was wondering how the process worked before dropping into the cars.

@ericcrockett479

Жыл бұрын

Yes, samples has the silos up on the bank

I have to say this is probably one of the most fascinating videos I've ever seen. Amazing how quickly that coal flows down that loader chute. Very interesting video!!!

@Redneckmfg

Жыл бұрын

I have to agree with you for sure.... I watched the entire video as if to make sure each car was filled ??? LOL

@michaelhudecek2778

Жыл бұрын

Me too!!

@GWRProductions-kg9pt

10 ай бұрын

hardly call a minute quick

Great visual reminder for me. I went to Walton Colliery ( Yorkshire UK ) 60 years ago when I left school. There were still all timber coal faces there ( 365 yards long and 20 inches high ). It's great to see one of God's great resources going into those cars. Thanks a lot, Colin.

@edwardhogan1877

Жыл бұрын

Maybe the lord would prefer it left in the. ground?

@colvinator1611

Жыл бұрын

@@edwardhogan1877 Not at all Edward. It's there for us to use and manage wisely.

@michaelprosperity3420

Жыл бұрын

We need coal for all the electric cars. LOL

I was a contractor for many years in West Virginia and observed many rail cars being loaded with coal. It would be very rare for a locomotive to be used to move the cars in position for loading. Typically the cars would be pushed up a grade past the loading facility and left there by the railroad. The coal company employees at there leisure would release the hand brake on the rail cars to slowly allow the cars to move down to the loading facility. Once there a winch cable would be attached to the lead car and the winch would slowly let out cable and allow the cars to move in position for loading.

@krakenwoodfloorservicemcma5975

Жыл бұрын

New locomotives have slow speed control and that works pretty well from what heat. They can set the entire train to roll at .25 mph I think.. maybe even less. I was a locomotive electrician many years but honestly don’t know much about the logistics of track operations. We rarely got to ride on trains.

@MrThatnativeguy

Жыл бұрын

@@krakenwoodfloorservicemcma5975 I believe CSX loads coal at 2mph or less

@krakenwoodfloorservicemcma5975

Жыл бұрын

@@MrThatnativeguy yeah, they can operate creep control to .10 with air brakes on. If i remember correct. I remember testing the system at .25 or so..

@davidelswick3309

Ай бұрын

Your both are right to different time periods in the old days they called it dropping cars with out the locomotive, when drop cars do it in the creep mode or the cars would run away

This was a great video to watch. All the different angles was awesome. Thank you

Those flood loaders are amazing!

nifty.... thanks for the multiple viewpoints

Just satisfying seeing American greatness at work. I love it.

This is an awesome video, I loved every minute of it!

Interesting to see the load out. Thanks for posting.

Really nice documentation, awesome work with all the angles!

Very nicely put together video and very entertaining as well. Thanks for posting this.

@RivannaRailfan

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you

Best video on loading I've seen, well done

Excellent video! Would love to see more coal train loading videos!!

@assassinatepsychoputin4151

Жыл бұрын

seen 1 you've seen them all...

@hollowpoint45acp

Жыл бұрын

What else do you need to see?

@assassinatepsychoputin4151

Жыл бұрын

@@hollowpoint45acp LOl maybe he's hoping for chunkier bits of coal... Like i said to him.. seen one, you've seen them all.... after all they would be all the same & doing the same thing... he must lead a boring life huh ....

I wonder how hard it is for the engineer to maintain a constant 1.18e7r56r miles per hour as his train gets heavier, 100T at a time. Great video.

@RivannaRailfan

2 жыл бұрын

The newer locomotives have crawl control where they can be set to this speed, here they load at 0.3mph.

@tilerman

2 жыл бұрын

@@RivannaRailfan Thanks for your reply. I was wondering the same as Drew. Cheers.

@marcgoff7881

Жыл бұрын

Not difficult at all because it would be rare indeed for a locomotive to be involved in loading. See my other post for an explanation.

@michaelspunich7273

Жыл бұрын

@@marcgoff7881 Apparently not too rare...

@ericcrockett479

Жыл бұрын

@marc goff here in WV almost all train loadouts are flood loaders and locomotives spot the train in position then the locomotives pull the train thru the loadout. Here at Leewood the train is broken into 2 sections. There is a passing siding and tail track. The locomotives bring the first cut of cars up, disconnect, use the passing siding to run around to the tail end of the first cut and push them up into the tail track then the locomotes returned to get the second half of the train and bring it up and it is spotted on the passing siding then the locomotives will uncouple and then couple on to the string of cars that were spotted in the tail track and then prepare to start loading. Once those are loaded and pulled through the locomotes will disconnect couple on to the second cut of cars on the passing siding shove those up past the load out into the tail track then feel the second cut of cars. Once both Cuts have been filled they will be coupled together back into one train again

Wow, never seen it in action, great video. Looks real cool

@RivannaRailfan

2 жыл бұрын

It was awesome to watch/load!

@RadicalRailfanner

2 жыл бұрын

I would think so!

Always wanted to see the actual process! TY!!!!

Great to see this. Really enjoyed it!☘️👍

@RivannaRailfan

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

Great vid - cheers for sharing

Awesome footage man!! Happy New Year!

This reminds me of what I do in Train Sim World 2. The process here is very similar to how it is in the game

This is a great video.

@RivannaRailfan

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

This is so cool!

Gives me a good idea of what the coal loads should look like for my model railroad, thanks,

A lot of people may think it's boring watching call being dropped into a train but to be honest with you these videos are so satisfying it's not even funny great video

Great job 😊

Great Video

That was awesome 👏

I've seen this from one angle only, thank you for all the other angles to fill in the gap of knowledge :) very cool indeed!

@RivannaRailfan

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Thanks for answering a long asked question of mine. Peace

I loaded a many Coal trains out of FOLA Mine in West Virginia back in 2010.

I have been loading coal trains for 25years and still don’t get bored I love the challenge. The loading process is different from this the loadout has 5 clam shell doors.

@DaaYay

Жыл бұрын

Your a good Man 👍🏼 Salute to you!

It usually.comes from a huge hopper above the line, They were called rapid loading systems in the uk before they closed all the mines.

@RivannaRailfan

2 жыл бұрын

Yes

The speed & efficiency of rail bulk loading & unloading is fascinating.

I'd have loved to have seen the whole process, From storage pile, to conveyors, to what is used to pull train so slowly.

Thank you

That's awesome 👍

Not to be dramatic but this is insane. Awesome video!

That's pretty cool. I figured it had to be something similar to this.

Amazing

I worked at this mine, on the dragline!!

My ass needs to wake up hella early for work tomorrow but here I am…

You could cover the entire state of WV with solar panels and windmills and it won't generate the energy this train has onboard.

That is so neat

Santa getting ready for Christmas 😆

@mattalbrecht7471

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

Had an friend that was an engineer for the RR. He hated this. He said keeping a train going a constant 1 mph for 12 hours really sucked. I can see why now.

@RivannaRailfan

Жыл бұрын

Modern locomotives now have crawl control. Where are you can set locomotives, like this train, to go at 0.3 mph for loading.

Coal keep the lights on.

I live up cabin creek when this was running. It's funny they spent all the time and money to rehab old rail and the dump but stopped using it.

@RivannaRailfan

Жыл бұрын

They still use it multiple times a day.

My father said his first toy train set ran on coal...

very interesting! love seeing how things work. quite surprised there is no water mister or similar to keep the dust down, or is it not needed for the grade of coal being loaded??

@RivannaRailfan

Жыл бұрын

Not needed

It's not going away. It will never go away. The green fools can just get over it.

@woods840

Жыл бұрын

Long live King coal!

You up close and personal 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿

@RivannaRailfan

2 жыл бұрын

Yessir

Most of this coal is going to factories that manufacture the steel, aluminum, rubber, glass, copper, zinc, plastic, and batteries that power electric vehicles.

It is really neat. When they push the mty cars past the loadout, they are scanned for the car# and weight each separate car holds There are large bins in the top of the loadout that are constantly being filled. As the cars are pulled back thru to be loaded, the exact amount is dropped into a smaller bin to fill up each individual car.

expert loader. No spillage between cars.

@RivannaRailfan

Жыл бұрын

He's the best of the best!

Great job.🇺🇲🇺🇲

@RivannaRailfan

Жыл бұрын

🇺🇸

Intriguing stuff, thank you! Seems like, regular as clockwork, a bunch of coal spills out from the dispensing hopper when the feed is shut off at the end of each car load - is there a reason for that? Subbed for more RR goodness \m/

All that awesome coal to power electric cars. 😀

That must be fun

@RivannaRailfan

Жыл бұрын

Very

San Antonio Texas has 11 trains running constantly with this coal to fuel their electric generators. Cleanest burning available.

Whoa, mama! That's a lot of coal to haul!

I'm surprised that the coal company allowed you to film from the loadout, they're usually pretty picky about letting people on their property.

@mattalbrecht7471

Жыл бұрын

No kidding! First a "safety" issue, then "proprietary loading techniques"

@mitchs323

Жыл бұрын

@@mattalbrecht7471 Pretty much the same techniques are used at almost all loadouts, only differences are the operator's preferances.

@mattalbrecht7471

Жыл бұрын

@@mitchs323 oh I am sure. I found the video interesting. I thought the load was faster though. Maybe fill 4 or 5 cars at a time, and quicker. I'd love to see how they make life cereal and the interweaving of the fibers, but general Mills won't let anyone see that because it is "proprietary"

I saw that there is some coal that spilled out a little on the ground. Do they sweep this up and use it or?

What was the original symbol for this train while it was still empty before the letter changed after being loaded?

@RivannaRailfan

Жыл бұрын

No idea, E something

Using angle of repose to your advantage.

Fantastic video!!! Curious,bthe loadout machine are very loud or, less and, rumble or, smooth? Because I'm completely deaf. And, thank you for post sharing with us! 👍

@RivannaRailfan

11 ай бұрын

A little rumbling but mainly just a lot of noise from the coal landing in the hoppers.

@FlyBikes089

10 ай бұрын

@@RivannaRailfan Wow that so very interesting! I glad that you visit to coal loadout facility and, those allowed you film em! And thanks for info!

@RivannaRailfan

10 ай бұрын

Thank you for watching! Im sorry there is no way to share the true sounds of the railroads with you

Pretty cool. I would have thought that the cars could be filled a little bit faster it looks like it was coming out of the main Hopper much faster than the cars were moving. And you think that it would level it off a little bit more so that way the wind doesn't hit it once the train starts rolling and blow all of that very loose coal off onto the tracks

@nowake

Жыл бұрын

I believe there is a chemical spray that these cars will roll under to treat the surface of the coal to prevent just what you've described from happening. Before this was done, BNSF found their track ballast was being fouled from all the coal dust.

@falconerd343

Жыл бұрын

That mound on top means each car holds just that little bit extra, meaning less cars for a given weight purchased.

@u2bear377

Жыл бұрын

@@falconerd343 The cars seem to be underfillet at the trailing end.

It looks like at some point a hopper bottom opened to disperse some on the ground

Hell yeah! 👍

thats gottaa be one of the more tedious operators jobs... yes you have to pay attention , but the pace and repetition can drive you nuts!

I always wondered how every coal car was perfect not one car was different than the others

I never got to see how that worked as a kid but now that I have seen it on this video I think that's pretty coal man!

Thanks.

Like putting icing on a cake with a spout bag.

"Any of you boys know how to shovel coal?!" - Lucile Bluth

I can’t even imagine how much coal has been used sense people started using coal. Coal trains come by here 4-5 times a day that’s during the day light hours.

@marktheshark7754

Жыл бұрын

It pales in comparison to how much coal is consumed by India and China. American coal consumption is a fraction of what it was during the peak in the 1930's and 1940's. Now it's just down to a few remaining power plants and steel mills. The rest is exported across the ocean.

is there a predetermined volume of coal to fill a wagon, or does it just fill until it reaches the edge of the wagon?

@RivannaRailfan

9 ай бұрын

Predetermined by computer based on the hopper and what it can hold

Cool video,I ment coal😅👍

How long does it take to load them up? Im guessing it takes hours?

@RivannaRailfan

2 жыл бұрын

At 0.3mph, about 5-7 hours.

@shanehinton954

2 жыл бұрын

@@RivannaRailfan Wow! I wonder what the engineer and conductor do, do they sleep on the train or leave until its done?

@RivannaRailfan

2 жыл бұрын

Engineer runs loco, and the conductor spots the cars from the loadout. They can be OD for 12 hours working.

I wonder if the front axles wear out first

@RivannaRailfan

Жыл бұрын

Nope

We used to do this in UK till some idiot called Thatcher closed all the mines.

Great video of electric car fuel being loaded!

Excellent video showing how coal is loaded. Fascinating to watch and also a bit satisfying. I hate the way coal has been demonized. Especially since _there is nothing that gives 24/7, reliable electricity that can take its place_ except nuclear which is also demonized. Soon we'll be turning on the light wondering if it is going to light. That is already happening in some places in the US. We have been told that we have to like that.

@RivannaRailfan

Жыл бұрын

Got that right, thanks for watching!

@mattalbrecht7471

Жыл бұрын

An American cola some of the cleanest coal on the planet! How do these liberals think their lights come on? How do they think they have power to charge their so-called smartphones? Where do they think electricity comes from?

@falconerd343

Жыл бұрын

Natural gas is at least cleaner than coal, less soot to breathe in.

@u2bear377

Жыл бұрын

Hydro power?

@falconerd343

Жыл бұрын

@@u2bear377 there's not much feasible hydro power left untapped in the US. Pumped hydro for energy storage could be engineered to some extent in places without a natural river, but for power generation you need a river with certain geography. Plus there's ecological and sometimes social issues with drowning a good chunk of land for the reservoir.

Is the coal weighed as it's loaded so that each car gets a set amount, or does the operator just stuff as much as he can into each one? BTW, thanks for the video -- this is fascinating stuff!!!

@RivannaRailfan

8 ай бұрын

Automatically dumped by the weight that the car can handle, all the operator does is start the dumping for each car, the computer stops it at car capacity.

@TheMan1510

8 ай бұрын

Awesome! Thanks!@@RivannaRailfan

Little to no waste. I always thought coal was lumpier.

i always heard they sprayed a light coat of glue on top to prevent "dusting"...........

@RivannaRailfan

Жыл бұрын

Some places they do, some places they don't. It depends on the type of coal being mined.

do you know which power plant this coal goes to?

@RivannaRailfan

Жыл бұрын

This went to a power plant in Charleston, South Carolina

@ericcrockett479

Жыл бұрын

@Rivanna Railfan interesting to know, usually coal from samples goes to John Amos in Winfield WV. Now that you say that those trains are usually with aepx cars

That's EV fuel right there.

Black sunshine concentrate.

That stuff is going to Georgia power plant wansely or plant Bowen in cartervile Georgia,

@RivannaRailfan

Жыл бұрын

No this went to a Power plant in Charleston SC

I wonder why the back end doesn’t get filled.

I'm assuming discharge rate is computer controlled?

@RivannaRailfan

Жыл бұрын

Correct

Seems like the chute could keep up with the train going twice this fast.

@marktheshark7754

Жыл бұрын

I'm sure NOBODY in the coal industry has thought of that to increase productivity. You're CEO material.