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@hannajoseph5989

Ай бұрын

​@@Atharva1973 seek " the way, the truth and the life" and you will realise

The analogy at 16:00 min mark was like, wow!!

Jesus is God!

@brianlove8413

Ай бұрын

No

@maxr247

Ай бұрын

@@brianlove8413 And you're an animal.

@BrianAurorasDad

20 күн бұрын

Amen 🙏🏻

@BrianAurorasDad

20 күн бұрын

​@brianlove8413 he claimed to be God witnesses claiming he died rose from the dead then they died for that believe. People don't die for what they already know to be a lie. Jesus is truth reliable. I am the TRUTH I am the LIFE and I am the WAY. God Bless You ❤❤❤

@brianlove8413

19 күн бұрын

@@BrianAurorasDad Jesus was in the grave for 3 days, dead! He gave the Pharisees an indication that the only sign he was prepared to give them was that of Jonah, 3 days in the belly of the beast. IF he is God, how did he raise himself up? If this was the case that he raised himself up, it would invalidate everything that he came to do, and the future has no meaning. This isn't some party trick that was being undertaken! God sent his only begotten son, not himself, because if he sent himself it would also invalidate the purpose of sending Jesus to "rescue mankind" from Adamic sin, i.e. death. When I say death, I mean physical and spiritual death, the latter being more important. With regards to the status of Jesus when they killed him, and before being raised up by God after the 3 days; "For the living know that they will die; But the dead know nothing, And they have no more reward, For the memory of them is forgotten. Also their love, their hatred, and their envy have now perished; Nevermore will they have a share In anything done under the sun." Ecclesiastes 9:5-6 Jesus was subjected to this for the 3 days!

People have a hard time realizing, that an outer physics being, cannot fit in or be found in our minds, speaking of God.

@jaredcs3570

2 ай бұрын

It just bugs people that our brains can't reconcile everything. The more logical you become, the more reasonable it is that there is a God. The historical evidence also points to Jesus being God.

Sam Sam Sam the soldier of Christ . I salute 🙏 you

Thank you for the sun light example. And the Spirit is the warmth.

It's the very reason God has always been against us making images to try and represent him. We'd end up deceiving ourselves, even through good intentions, because God cannot be defined by us nor represented in art or media by us. None of us are as smart as we think we are.

@ChristOverAllJeremy

2 ай бұрын

Though I agree we cannot fashion god into an idol and worship the idol, God does not withhold imageries of himself in visions of prophets. For example: “I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.” ‭‭Daniel‬ ‭7‬:‭9‬ ‭KJV‬‬ “In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple.” ‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭6‬:‭1‬ ‭KJV‬‬ Even if these are visions, God allowed these prophets to behold him in all his glory, though God by nature doesn’t literally have white hair nor sits on a literal throne.

@auh2o148

2 ай бұрын

​@ChristOverAllJeremy you're confusing the glorified appearance of Messiah with The Father.

@remowilliams7029

2 ай бұрын

​@@ChristOverAllJeremyAre you a prophet?

@levrai944

Ай бұрын

God instructed Moses to build an ark for Him, the Ark of the Covenant with two Cherubim. Throughout history people have made art and designed statues and paintings in Honor of Him. God is not against that. What He is against is idolatry. Worship images as though the images themselves were God. Or outright making statues of false Gods and worshipping them. Like they did with the golden calf. And like hindus, Buddhists etc.

@marbymendez8021

Ай бұрын

Christ [ Luke 1:35 / Galatians 4:4-7 / Acts 4:27] : is the Image of the Invisible God [ Colossians1:15 / John 12 : 44-45; 14:8-12] / Ephesians 2:10 For we are His Workmanship created in Christ JESUS for the good works that God hath prepared for us beforehand that we should walk in them. ❤🙏

Sam's channel is "The Archive". This was good! Thank you for sharing! I have to play this over and over again until I understand this message better.😊

@auh2o148

2 ай бұрын

His Sun analogy was the best one, so it might be a good idea to focus on that. You could also add to it that when Messiah was in the flesh, The Father was the Sun, The Son was the Rainbow, and water is our earthly plane. Just like we can not observe the Sun directly, no flesh can see The Father and live; but, we can observe the Rainbow, just as we could behold The Son when He was flesh. All of that is about our dimension; as far as The Father & The Son in eternity, I like to use two analogies: the embryo splitting, and the planarian.

@kingjaynesiz

2 ай бұрын

Actually his channel is "Shamounian". But Archive posts nice clips, shorter videos.

@Angel-Max7728

2 ай бұрын

Same here✝️🙏🏼

Thank you so much sam

Thank you for your patience with us Sam! Love you brother!

Love how you explain the Bible and break it down, brother!!! God bless you!

Wowwwww. Glory to God, can actually understand what Sam is saying!

Hi all from Ireland

@januszkowalskii114

2 ай бұрын

Ireland here as well Dublin :)

@rahawa774

2 ай бұрын

Hi from Western Australia!

@januszkowalskii114

2 ай бұрын

@@rahawa774 We are gathered here in the name of Yahusha from across the world. We have just created church. Vatican is not a church. Church is NOT a building. God speed my brother.

@vincentsadan1938

Ай бұрын

Hello there. Catholic from Cape Town, South Africa. God bless.

@hannajoseph5989

Ай бұрын

​@januszkowalskii114 The Bible says the “Spirit of Christ” lives inside believers (Romans 8:9). More often it says the “Spirit of God” (Romans 8:9) or just the “Holy Spirit” is in us (1 Corinthians 6:19).

"The sword of the Spirit is sharper than any double edged sword and it cuts to the bone and the marrow and it divides soul and Spirit and discerns the [thoughts and intents of the heart]"🙏🙌🗣🕊🔥🦅.

God knew I would be led to you to explain, when the time was right. Your analogy about light heat & the father was perfect. I’m not by any means an educated man and so God made it simple for me to understand, like a guidepost. You’ve explained a memory, one of 5 this being the third, with the previous 2 already answered when I was awakened & went in the spirit. Two remain unanswered, but all things are according to His Will. Thank you for being who God made you to be.

I've never understood how people can claim GOD is all powerful, and anything is possible with GOD, and then try to limit what GOD can do when it comes to the trinity, and think HE is not capable of such a thing.

@franklinbross2602

Ай бұрын

They are confused or delusional

@hannajoseph5989

Ай бұрын

Luke 1:37: “For nothing will be impossible with God.”

@barryarrington7832

Ай бұрын

The trinity is a forced doctrine. The scriptures don't explain the relationship in that way.

@maxr247

Ай бұрын

​@@barryarrington7832not really. The Bible does mention the Trinity.

@barryarrington7832

Ай бұрын

@@maxr247 It doesn't mention a trinity. The trinity was introduced by the nicene council. That was their best explanation for the relationship. I disagree with their explanation and stance.

Amazing session. I been watching this over and over again. I had to share this. Thank you brother Jeremy for sharing this session with us 🔥✝️🕊🙏🏼

Thank you so much for being so helpful and took so much time to give so many analogies to give all of us a better understanding. You’re amazing!

This is brilliant.

At the 3 minute mark he tells the listener, "the more confused you get, the more you're getting it". 1 Cor 14: 33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. So he's admitting his word salad is unbiblical. Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, BEING UNDERSTOOD BY THE THINGS THAT ARE MADE, EVEN HIS ETERNAL POWER AND GODHEAD; so that they are without excuse:

Great stuff! Good teacher!

God bless you sam

Thankyou Soooo👏much, Spiritual- Brother/Teacher for making us understand the HOLY🙏WORD in a Simple/meaningful way. This is helping me & Listeners in the world to be more confident in the FAI✝️H. GOD Bless you, family & :ministry abundantly each New-Day.👍😀

Amen. God is please!

Jesus was God with God

God teaches us from his words the Bible

All creation are in God. In Him we live and move and have our being. I am in th Father and the Father is in me.

He is Eternal because He is the Word, and the Word became flesh within Space-Time for our benefit and salvation. He is still the Word. The Father is the Divine Mind, the Son is the Living Word, the Origin of Nature. He is the Tree of Life, the Morning Star, the Philosopher's Stone. He is the first form of matter and the mover of the elements. He is the Substance of Faith, and the Light of the Divine Mind. Light is not only what we see as light, but Urim is light, and Urim is substance. It is that which absorbs / adsorbs and contains our biophotonic souls, and purifies them, and can grow for them new bodies, as it is the first-form of matter and produces all natural things. Alchemy is not a myth, it is an entire branch of science which connects and unlocks all other sciences, and reveals the true evidence of God, and allows mankind to obey Christ who did tell us to heal the sick, cast out demons, and raise the dead. How can we do these things without the renovation of our sinful natures, and renewal of the mind? Man is the music, the body is the radio. The music is expressed by the radio, but does not originate from it. All life is Biophotons, and this is the Living Light, which raises up the Urim in Nature into Living Forms. Christ is all, and of Him and through Him and to Him are all things. Study what Moses studied: The Divine Pymander of Hermes, and also study these other things which are all the same: The Hermetic Museum, The Gospel of Thomas, 1 Corinthians 10:1-4 Christ is the Living Stone, the Blessed Cornerstone and Foundation of all Nature. Thus it was He who had to be the sacrifice for the purification of all souls, for OF HIM and THROUGH HIM and TO HIM are ALL THINGS. Adam and Eve were not patient. The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil and the Tree of Life are one and the same, separated by Ripeness alone. It was being prepared for them, but they acted in haste and disobedience. Soon, God will pour out His Spirit upon all flesh, the Earth will reveal its Blood, and will cast out the dead. The Seven Spirits of God sent out into the world, the Seven Stars in the Right Hand of Christ, these are the seven planets or metals of the alchemists: Sun, Moon, Mercury, Saturn, Venus, Mars, Jupiter....in that order. There is One thing in the world, which predates the world. It purifies itself forever, and is a Living Fire, the Salt of the Earth and Light of the World. As a White Stone (Rev. 2:17) it is Urim, and when Red it is Thummim. This is the Singular Gift of God, the True Inheritance of the Redeemed, by which the dead will rise to their judgment, and by which we shall live a thousand years in Christ's Kingdom, where He Himself is the Light of that place. It's worth a look, anyway...

@Intrepid_Insomniac

2 ай бұрын

This was interesting!

He did a great job. Another way to think of it would be to imagine a waterfall, and at the bottom of the waterfall it flows as a river. In other words, the river proceeds from (or finds its source) in the waterfall. Now make the waterfall eternal; if the waterfall was alwaying flowing from eternity past, then that means the river at its base which proceeds from the waterfall has always been flowing eternally as well. This analogy isn't perfect, but the Son is eternally begotten of the Father in the same way.

@YeshuaAkbar-u3f

2 ай бұрын

No. You are talking about the Trinity. They talk about something else. They talk about how can Jesus be eternal when he was begotten.

@vancemiller8500

2 ай бұрын

To beget means to bring into existence, to bring about.

Hebrews 11 - 3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. 2 Timothy 1 - 9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began. Before the world began, The Word, Jesus!

Important to understand the differences between Tertullian vs. Origen

God is out of space, time and matter. His ways and thoughts are not our ways and thoughts. So to put that Jesus was “created” comes from human logic and thought not from Him. Trying to understand this things from the “flesh” will never let us understand the truth that has to be understood from the Spirit.

@O_tropos

2 ай бұрын

Nonsense Jesus IS created. Stop spewing lies. The trinity is demonic and you should refrain from it

I know the Nicene creed but I never connected "light from light" to the sun and its brightness. Wow.

In understanding the verse, in the beginning was the word, and the word was God, and the word was with God, and the word became flesh...etc. I was taught that in the Hebrew, God was the word, as was Jesus, simultaneously. Then the phrase was with God, means face to face. So then, Jesus already was and or had the ability, to be a physical being, and face to face, with God. Because we know Jesus showed up physically, to many old school prophets, physically, before his human birth.

@vancemiller8500

2 ай бұрын

To beget means to bring into existence. A word has to be spoken in order for it to exist. John goes on to say that the Word was also that Light in the beginning that lighteth every man that cometh into the world. God the Father SPOKE, and said, let there be light. God bless

@kurtwinslow2670

2 ай бұрын

@@vancemiller8500 To think that God's word isn't eternal, is illogical, for every aspect of God is eternal by nature. Ones words are intimately united with God and can't be separated from God. When a word is spoken it proceeds in time and Jesus was revealed in time, as the word from God. When the Bible speaks of the Son as the only begotten son. The authors of the Bible never intended the readers to think that the Son came into existence. Rather they're implying that God is revealing himself. That's why Jesus can say, "when you have seen me, you have seen the Father." John 14:9 Or "I and my Father are one." John 10:30 The writer of Hebrews expressed it this way concerning Jesus, "he's the express image of God." Hebrews 1:3 Jesus explains that he shared a glory with God before the world and wishes for that glory to be restored John 17:5. When did Jesus lay aside his glory? Paul gives an explanation in Philippians 2:5-9. Jesus willing laid aside his glory in order that he might become the second Adam and displace the first Adam and become humanities representative. As our high priest, before God Jesus represents all who are his. This is the eternal plan of God. God is your savior as the Bible clearly teaches; "Yet I am the LORD your God. Ever since the land of Egypt, and you shall know no God but Me; For there is no savior besides Me. Hosea 13:4 Jesus is God and Jesus is Jehovah, for only Jehovah saves. Jeremiah prophesied that the savior of the world would be known as; His name whereby he shall be called: Jehovah our righteousness. Jeremiah 23:6

@vancemiller8500

2 ай бұрын

@@kurtwinslow2670 if Jesus is Jehovah the how will Jesus be subject to Jehovah in the end? 1 Corinthians 15:24-28 King James Version 24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. 25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. 27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. 28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

@vancemiller8500

2 ай бұрын

@kurtwinslow2670 if Jesus is Jehovah, then how will Jesus be subject to Jehovah in the end?

@kurtwinslow2670

2 ай бұрын

@@vancemiller8500 I already gave you an explanation friend. Jesus the eternal Logos i.e. word of God, when he took upon himself flesh and became a man. In order that he might redeem many. Is now and forever will be humanities representative before God. as such in the role of being the second Adam; he submits to the father as should we. The Bible clearly teaches that we are to emulate Jesus i.e. he submits, we too ought to submit. 1 John 2:6

Even "begotten" tends to make make people think of something like creation as though the difference is that it happened before the creation of time. In reality the Trinity is simply the nature of God that the existence of the Father necessitates the existence of the Son and together they necessitate the Spirit. The Father is the simple and complete being and the Son is the intellect of the Father. Before creation there was nothing for God to know but himself and this self awareness, this intellect is a separate person we know as the Son

God absolutely has a mind ! The spaghetti brain matter that you're referring to is just dirt and water mixed to make the clay people we are. The true mind is our spirit. "For my thoughts are not your thoughts neither are your ways my ways saith the Lord" " for as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts. Isiah 55:8,9. Kjv All of creation is his thoughts expressed. Thought then expressed as the Word then materializing as creation whether visible or invisible, whether spirits or living humans. Colossians 1 kjv.

Psalms 90:2 .....from everlasting to everlasting thou art God. Christ 1st Coming as: The Son of God: The Lamb of God: The Crucified Messiah Isaiah 48:16 Come ye near unto Me hear ye this: I have not spoken in secret from the beginning: from the time it was there AM I: and now the Lord GOD and His Spirit hath sent Me [Micah 5:2 / Amos 4:12 / John 1:1-14; 3:16-18; 1st Timothy 3:16 / 1st John 3:8; 5:20-21]. Christ 2nd Coming as: The King of kings and Lord of lords [ Zechariah 14:9 / 1st Timothy 6:14-16 / Revelation 17:14; 19: 11-16] : The God Almighty [ Isaiah 9:6-7 / John 20:28-29 / Titus 2:13 / 2nd Peter 1:1-2 / ,Revelation 1:7-8 &17-18]. Godhead Identity The Father: is the Soul of God [Leviticus 26: 11&30 / Isaiah 1:14; 42:1 / Jeremiah 9:9; 13:17 / Zechariah 11:8 / Matthew 12:18 / Hebrews 10:38]. Christ/ Messiah / our sonship as children of God: is the Power of God and the Wisdom of God [ 1st Corinthians 1:24; 10:4 / Proverbs 8:22-31; 30:4 / Luke 11:49 / 1st Peter 1:10-11 ] : The Image of the Invisible God [ Colossians1:15 / John 12:44-45, 14: 8-12 / 2nd Corinthians 4:4]. The Holy Ghost: is the Spirit of God [ Genesis 1: 1-2 &26-27 / Ephesians 2:10 / Job 33:4 / John 14:17-26; 15:26]. ...Job 33: 5 The Spirit of God hath made me and the Breath of the Almighty hath given me LIFE. The Father [ John 4:24], and the Son [ 2ndCorinthians3:14-18], and the Holy Ghost [ Hebrews 9:14] are One GOD / Holy Spirit [ Zechariah14:9 / Acts 5:3-4 &9 : One Composite Whole [ Ephesians 4:4-6 / 1st Corinthians 8:6; 11: 3; 12 : 4-6; 15: 20-28]. The First and the Last: The Alpha and the Omega: The Beginning and the End YHWH/ IAOUE / I AM / JEHOVAH/ YAHUWAH/ IEOUA [ Exodus 3:14-15; 6:2-3] : is the Coded/ Hidden Holy Name of God [ Isaiah 41:4; 44:6; 48: 22-17] OT JESUS/ YESHUA/ YAHSUWAH/ YHWH / YAHUWAH meaning GOD SAVES/ GOD IS SALVATION: is the Revealed Holy Name of God [ Revelation 1:7-8 &17-18 ; 2:8; 21:6 ; 22: 13-16]. NT JESUS [ Matthew1:21&25/ John5:43; John 10:25 / Hebrews1:1-4] : The Name above every name [ Philippians 2:5-11] : For there is No Other Name under heaven given among men whereby we must be save [ Acts 4:10-12]. Hebrews 13: 8 JESUS CHRIST the same yesterday and today and for ever : The Father and the Son: YHWH and YHWH of hosts [ Psalms 2:7 / Proverbs 30:4_ 1st John 2:22'24; 4:1-11 / 2nd John 7-11] Luke 1:37 For with God nothing shall be impossible. / Luke 18:27 The things which are impossible with men are possible with God. ❤⚜️🙏

God the Father has a Body so as Jesus, their images are what we are created from only the holy spirit doesn't have a body

Amen!

I think that people think this is Sam's KZread channel🤔

@ChristOverAllJeremy

2 ай бұрын

Many do. Our brother Archive gets that too. That’s why I try to put Sam’s channel directly in the title.

@auh2o148

2 ай бұрын

​@@ChristOverAllJeremyI don't get it, why not make your own material, instead of using someone else's?

@91Chanito

2 ай бұрын

​@@auh2o148Who cares, just enjoy the video youtube police.

@91Chanito

2 ай бұрын

​@@ChristOverAllJeremyThanks for the video.

@auh2o148

2 ай бұрын

@91Chanito I care because it's indicative of how Christians have stolen The G-o-d of the B-i-b-l-e and made Them into something They're not. That's why Christianity has so many denominations - because no one is clinging to The Truth; they're just regurgitating what they hear from everyone else and feeding the masses like baby birds. They don't seek YHWH for themselves.

Just as we are a spirit possessing a soul and residing in a body in the physical realm, it makes sense to me that the same thing can exist in the realm or dimension of the Spirit. In other words, before the second person of the Godhead took on flesh, God existed in the dimension of the spirit - a world we cannot see, as Spirit, soul and body. The body part of God appeared to Abraham. It seems God can appear to us in our physical realm. Isaiah saw the Father on the throne. The Holy Spirit hovered over the waters. HOW did Father God "beget?" Very simple, He created a seed that caused conception. In creating the seed, He has every right to call Jesus His only begotten Son. I believe the body or seen part of the Godhead came to be the SPIRIT and life inside the body of Jesus. He was man, because He had a human body made alive with a spirit. He was God because He did not and could not change WHO He was, the body or seen part of the Godhead. I don't believe Jesus had two "natures." He was God dwelling inside a human body.

@Intrepid_Insomniac

2 ай бұрын

This was how I understood it too, but I have heard that that is a heresy. I’m not really sure why though. That confuses me.

@LyleCooper

2 ай бұрын

@@Intrepid_Insomniac I look at it this way: it is written that we humans were created in God's image and after His likeness. Paul wrote that we humans are a three part being, a spirit possessing a soul, and living for now in a flesh and blood body. It just makes sense that if we are made in His image and after His likeness, He also is a spirit being, possessing a soul, and living in a body. However, He being GOD can do what we cannot do, separate His three parts and continue doing what GOD does.

Another analogy I've heard is that of an underground well of water in a mountain. That water has it's source in the well in the mountain, but it may pour forth as two rivers. The well and the two rivers may seem to be different things, but they are all the same water. The well would be analogous to the Father, and the two rivers would be the Son and the Holy Spirit.

@YeshuaAkbar-u3f

2 ай бұрын

You talk about the Trinity. It's not the Trinity they are talking about.

@YeshuaAkbar-u3f

2 ай бұрын

They talk about how can Jesus be eternal if he was begotten?

@vancemiller8500

2 ай бұрын

​@@YeshuaAkbar-u3fthe Father begot Him(brought Him into existence) to live for the rest of eternity. Eternally begotten.

@YeshuaAkbar-u3f

2 ай бұрын

@@vancemiller8500 ?? Why do you answer me? I didn't ask. I answered the post and said this was not about the Trinity instead it's about how Jesus can be eternal if he is begotten. I answered he who posted the post.

How can we be even try to explain out Who and What God is except what the bible tells us. If God said he is “I am”, then he must be saying that he can be anything he wants to be.

Yes he begotten by the father..Psalms 2:7/Heb.1:5..Because he came from the bosom of the father..John 1:18..now that is true to the flesh,it is also true to the spirit,because spirit begot spirit.John 3:5-6/Micah 5:2

The "Word" of God is Jesus, the "Word" became flesh. The "Holy Spirit" is the Spirit of God. So all are God Himself no matter how they turn to be: 1- seen (Jesus = God manifest in flesh) or 2- felt (The Holy Spirit of God when appeared in the shape of a dove and also in the shape of fire on the day of Pentecost and in the burning bush)

God just is

Actually a theoretical physicists who later became a Christian. One of the reasons he became a christian was that time and time the bible is describing things outside human frame of references and experiences.

This guest gets it, a source is the origin, it was no earthly good for sam to suggest its a mystery, begotten proceeds birth, and birth points to a beginning i.e "the firstborn of every creature"..."The beginning of the creation of God"

@Marvin-lu3hj

2 ай бұрын

The use of firstborn doesn't mean "the first to be created"

@vancemiller8500

2 ай бұрын

​@Marvin-lu3hj you're right, firstborn doesn't mean the first to be created. However, firstborn of all creatures does.

@MrMore470

Ай бұрын

@@vancemiller8500 man, you worded that the way my brain has been trying to for ages. Ideal.

The truth that people refuse to be convinced of is that all religions are a TRINITY !!!!!! As for an apparent trinity like the Christian religion when Jesus said, “Go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit,” or as for a hidden trinity (the Creator - the Founder - Lucifer ), because in logic, it is impossible for the founder not to express some of his personal ideas and for Lucifer not to whisper to him, but the greatest danger is when the founder is a murderer, a thief, and a rapist, regardless of his arguments for doing so according to logic, the Creator’s inspiration will be almost non-existent. In short, Christianity is the only safety zone. As long as it is an apparent trinity, you are sure that you do not worship the ONE Lucifer , and as long as he is completely in your image and you say to him “Our Father,” you are sure that he does not have wings. The danger is for other religions, especially those that do not consider him completely in their image and refuse to call him " Our Father " ... Why does he need their souls and not consider them to be talking animals like the rest of the animals he created, unless he has ............ WINGS ????????????????????????????????????????

It is better to just skip the early catholics and go with what Jesus said: God is everywhere.

The monarchy of the Father lectures by Beau Branson go more into depth on this

Trying to fathom the unfathomable will cook your noodle.

Man is not created in the image of God: God created Adam, man in the image of the God- The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, using the image of the only Visible of the Godhead, The Son, as the model. Genesis 1:26, breathed into his nostrils by the 3rd member,- the Holy Spirit, and gave him the essence of Himself by His Holy Spirit 2:7. Man fell, lost this essence and God had to cover his nakedness with animal skin- that is what we have now, so man began to procreate in this form Genesis 5:3. This is the image we bear now, but as we turn from sin and accept the sacrificial death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ, we are justified, and God imputes His righteosness on us, breathes His essence back into us John 20:22, seals us Ephesians 1:13-14, leads, teaches and reveals all His will to us, until the redemption of the purchased possession, we shed this image as we take on the image of God in Christ, becoming as He is and placed in His body as members of the Head, becoming the original image of the first Adam in all his glory, now in Christ Jesus. That is the good news of salvation. That is why many risk shame and mocking just to let others know this good news!

Genesis 1:26-27; Isaiah 6:8 shows that God is not alone by Himself. There's God the Father, who is invisible and can not be seen or approached and not be destroyed. There's the God the Son, the Light, the Word, who is the visible image and likeness of God the Father- He can be interacted with on a personal level and not be destroyed, but by faith. There's God the Holy Spirit, who is the Energizer of the Godhead. He moves the Father, in the Son. Just like you are a spirit, you live in a body, and you have a soul- mind, will, and emotion. You can't exist without either of them. 1 John 1:9, 5:11-12. The Life of God is in the Son. This Life is the Light of men. Jesus Christ is both the Life and Light of all men. You can't have One without the other. Jesus Christ then returned to the Father, and sent down the Holy Spirit, just like God the Father sent Him. John 14:26. That each came for the same reason with different perspectives- Jesus came in the flesh to make the flesh pay for the sin it incurred, by shedding the blood which kept it for 1000 years ( Methuselah 969+ Jesus Christ, 33.5 years). The Holy Spirit came to replace the power of the blood- or its life, in the believers, who must live daily nailing the flesh and dying to its demands, until the redemption of the purchased possession, at Christ's return. This is what the Holy Spirit does, to keep them alive till then. All men are walking corpses, until they die and get buried until till first resurrection, then judgment. The Holy Spirit daily fills, leads, teaches, interprets the word and will and purpose of God for their lives till the end. They keep man from the influence of the devil, so they all visit the earth until Satan is judged and condemned. So, why the need to separate the Godhead- they are One. They came as individual men to meet Abraham Hebrews 1:1-14. But when it came to saving man, who was created by the Godhead, and has all the attributes of God and His image before the fall, Jesus Christ became the model. This is why He is preparing members of His body to become as it was in the beginning- " male and female created He them", but it was just one being. The same way the new Creation- the Church has Jesus Christ as the Head, and all who believe in Him till the end, as members of His body, to become One. John 10:30 let's us know that The Son, who was separated from the Father, from eternity, came into time to bring back man into eternity with the Godhead. They will sit with Him in God in heavenly places. The rest have a place provided for them in the outer court. So the question is, are you yourself, just like you wanted to know if Jesus Christ is God?

We dont need to reconcile this. Monogenes doesnt mean begotten its one of a kind. Jesus is Gods one of a kind Son.

Sorry not sin,Son,I have allergies,and the I and I are right next to each other.

Hi Sam iam Joe from Perth Wa iam not sure which state your in but I've been watching quite a few of your videos and love your work . I have a Muslim friend who doesn't believe in the holy Trinity and Jesus being the 1 true God . FULL STOP. I think you would be the ideal Person to have a Conversation with him re this Matter , I would welcome a video talk with the 3 of us if that's possible if you don't mind have a talk to him re this matter . His Name is , WAEL. Would this be possible I would really appreciated it .

If the Word is Jesus then from the beginning he had not learned to be obedient to himself until 2,000 years ago, and was fearful according to the following verses, 7 Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared; 8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered; Heb 5:7-8 (KJV) And why would God not know to refuse the evil and choose the good? 16 For before the child shall know to refuse the evil, and choose the good, the land that thou abhorrest shall be forsaken of both her kings. Isaiah 7:16 (KJV) Everyone knows this cannot be. 15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but WAS in all points TEMPTED (in contradiction to 13 … for God CANNOT be tempted with evil, …James 1:13 (KJV)) like as we are, yet without sin. Heb 4:14-15 (KJV). Two separate wills mean two separate beings. 42 Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done. Luke 22:42 (KJV) And 30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me. John 5:30 (KJV) 30 I and my Father are one. John 10:30 (KJV) simply mean that Jesus and the Father are working for the same end, the salvation of man. John 17:21-22 (KJV). 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the WORD (not son), and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 1 John 5:7 (KJV) Jesus is a man that was given the Word and taught to be obedient to it and thereby perfectly giving us an example to follow and live by the Word in the flesh, becoming our savior and the author of our salvation through deed and script (the New Testament). And Jesus was given the position of high priest and “Lord of Lords and Kings of Kings” because of his perfected obedience to the Word. And he was made God over us by the same principle that Moses was made God over Pharaoh Ex 7:1 (KJV). There is only the FATHER that gave us his WORD (law, the ten commandments and their principles) to be our lord and God that we are commanded to love with all our heart, soul, strength, and mind. There is only the FATHER that sends his HOLY GHOST to work all things together for the good of those that love the lord their God. By God’s righteousness he cannot create man with a free will without a plan of salvation knowing that man will give into the lusts of the flesh and be servants of death. From the beginning (John 1:1 (KJV)) that plan is the Word (God’s law) that entails a savior that completes or finishes the law (Word). Jesus was chosen to be that savior (the Word made flesh). The Word is not Jesus, but Jesus is a part of the Word. 6 By the word of the Lord were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth. Psalms 33:6 (KJV) “Jesus Christ came 2,000 years ago at the end of the fifth day and beginning of the sixth day and brought the New Testament which gives true meaning to the laws of God in the Old Testament and is a way of making it possible for all people to understand. The teachings of Christ in the New Testament finished the laws of God which are in the Old Testament (confirming those laws, not doing away with them as most people believe) St. John5:36, St. Matt.5:17, and His teachings in the New Testament of the bible is His spiritual blood, St. John6:63 and St. Mark14:23-25. He did not change any laws of the Old Testament. He repeatedly refers to the Ten Commandments which were given in the Old Testament. It is there one must study the laws to truly understand the breakdown and true meaning of all laws. Jesus Christ said He came not to destroy or change, but to fulfill and finish the laws, St.John4:34, 17:4, 19:30.” ~ #2 143,999+1 Don’t take my word for it, or any bodies for that matter. Come to the bible (KJV) with a clean slate and with sincere want for truth, and not to consume it upon your lusts, but that you may do true worship and obedience to God, with a repentant heart, and with reason and logic the spirit of God will teach.11 … in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. Acts 17:11 (KJV) And for Jesus to be God, his sacrifice would be a mockery, “see I can do it, now you do it” knowing that he cannot die. Jesus is man just like the men and women he shows the way to live according the word in the flesh: 21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should FOLLOW HIS STEPS:...1 Peter 2:21-24 (KJV). The government that gives life consists of the “Father” who gave us his only begotten son, the word(law, “all mighty God”) and sent to this world his “Prince of peace”, our High Priest, lord, king, and mediator Jesus Christ. All glory to God. Amen

The infinite creator God reveals himself in ways the finite creation can understand to the limit of his understanding. You’re not going to fully understand God. It’s called faith.

Yes he begotten from the father..Psalm 2:7/Heb.1:5..because he came from the bosom of the father..John 1:18,from the being of the father..Micah 5:2 Micah 5:2 (KJV) But thou, Beth-lehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting. That why Christ is not the father as what the belief of oneness group.

I think that this man is Metatron

Jesus is the Unbegotten son.

2 Timothy 2:14. As long as it doesn't hinder your faith in the doesn't affect the salvation of your soul, let God deal with it in His own time. Trinity is a word used to describe the Godhead - The Father, The Son, and the Holy Spirit. The Father is invisible. No man can see Him. The Son is the Visible, express image of the Father, and The Holy Spirit is the Power of the Father moving in the Son. Just as you are a soul, inhabiting a body- fitted to survive in this atmosphere, with the Spirit of God moving you. When man fell, the Spirit went back to God, and God created this earth to keep man for the duration of the 1000-year curse. Man now breathes in air- oxygen to survive. When you receive Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, He breathes into you His breath of Life John 20:22, to sustain the new you on the inside, led daily by the Holy Spirit until the redemption of your purchased soul and presents it faultless before the presence of God the Father. So, if we can, we could use the word "Trinity " for you as well, which doesn't remove from or add to the truth of who you really are.

Jesus' God and Father is the **ONE** who raised Jesus from the dead... *JOHN 2:19 (KJV)* Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days **I** will raise it up. Jesus Christ the only begotten Son of God IS God the Father manifested in genuine human form. *1 TIMOTHY 3:16 (KJV)* And without controversy *great* is the *mystery* of godliness: *GOD was manifest in the flesh,* justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Jesus was begotten from His mother’s womb

can a human cel understand that is a part of a body?? And if the cel is immortal, why the body need to die, while poces the characteristics of an immortal cel of God??

Timestamps: 0:00 How can Jesus reside in the Father if the Father is not a physical being? 2:18 God is beyond comprehension - the words we use are the product of our limited minds (be careful) 5:06 Be careful what the Church Fathers say on eternal begetting 8:21 How can Jesus be the Son if he didn’t PHYSICALLY come out of the Father? 9:56 God’s ways and thoughts are higher than ours 12:18 Analogy 1: How old are you as a father? 15:50 Analogy 2: The Sun-Light Analogy 19:12 Analogy 3: How can Jesus be the exact copy of God, if he’s created?

@dianetigert1310

2 ай бұрын

21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

@fggarcia6010

2 ай бұрын

12:18 great analogy you can hear his tone changed.. The doubt was erased..

@carlosalarcon9389

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The father IS is spirit, is somebody, he has the appearance of a man, he does have a body.

@carlosalarcon9389

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Because Jesus is a Spirit with a humanoid body. Jesus is a part ofvGod that came forth from the Father.

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The Son is not a duplicate of the Father. The Son is the express or single only image of the Father. The son IS the image of the Father and there IS NO other image of the Father hence express (only official images. If you buisness has trademarks it has many but if it has and EXPRESS trade mark it has one soul official trade mark) and the Son IS the word of God and God the Father has no other word than the Son. Father and Son have ONE body and that is the Son, One word also the Son. Probably one spirit and probably 2 souls or one soul split two ways??? it's real beyond my understanding. PS sometimes in the bible spirit and soul are the same and other times different things based on topic and sentence structure. like happiness is a spirit of Joy but not a soul of joy and your personality is your soul but part of your personality is also your spirit but your memory is 100% soul. soul is you- spirit is emotion or essence, more or less. Sometimes is uses spirit meaning not physical like angels are spirit meaning super natural so there is yet another use with different meaning of spirit.

Wouldn't that apply to others aspects of God too thus rendering all theology useless?

Try explaining what a 3d object is to a 2d being. That's what it's like trying explain God.

God is just one being. The father, the son and the holy Spirit are different forms of the same God.

@vancemiller8500

2 ай бұрын

Then how will Christ be subject to the Father in the end? 1 Corinthians 15:24-28 King James Version 24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. 25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. 27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. 28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all. To beget means to bring into existence, to bring about

@kurtwinslow2670

2 ай бұрын

@@vancemiller8500Yet the Son of man will have an eternal kingdom Daniel 7:14. How do you harmonize these two concepts? God is eternal by nature. God possesses infinite knowledge by nature. God doesn't think, nor can he learn, God just knows, and his knowledge is from eternity and to eternity and it changes not. The Word i.e. the Son of Man, is God and existed with God from eternity. The Lamb slain before the foundation of time. Has been revealed to humanity and Jesus is the second Adam 1Corthinians 15:47. The first Adam was humanities representative and his fall, caused all his offspring to fall, for we inherited his nature. The second Adam i.e. Jesus who lived a perfect life before God and then willingly offered himself as an atonement on our behalf. Has rightfully displaced the second Adam. Now Jesus is humanities representative i.e. the second Adam. It's within this context that Jesus willingly submits to the Father, For Jesus is eternally humanities representative. Don't make the mistake of thinking, that when Jesus takes on the role of being subject, to the father that Jesus is diminished within the Godhead. For there is no division in the Godhead. Each person is in complete harmony and united in the bond of love from and to eternity. John in Revelations concludes by summarizing up the conclusion of events in this reality and what eternity will look like. Revelations 22:3 No longer will there be anything accursed, but the throne of God and of the Lamb will be in it, and his servants will worship him. Notice that God and the Lamb occupy the throne and we will worship him. There's plurality and unity within the Godhead. I hope this clears up any confusion.

@danielabankwa9867

2 ай бұрын

How is the son a different form of God when Philippians 2:6 says “who being in the form of God”

@vancemiller8500

2 ай бұрын

@danielabankwa9867 the form of God is a Spirit. Jesus, being in the form of a Spirit, became a man. It goes on to say He thought it not robbery to be equal to God, therefore He came as a man to fulfill the will of God and be made equal to the Father, claiming that He was not equal to the Father until after His obedience unto death. Which is why scripture was not broken when on earth He said, the Father is greater than I. Yet your interpretation is full of brokenness and holes. Scripture cannot be broken. Philipians 2 kjv 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. 9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. John 14:28 King James Version 28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. And also, how could He go to the Father if He was the Father? And once again, how will Christ be subject to the Father in the end if He is His own Father? John 4:24 King James Version 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

@roseroselyne9045

2 ай бұрын

​​​@@vancemiller8500the Father was greater than him, because he humbled himself coming in are human nature fool.Giving up part of his Divinity.Christ never knew death for being incarnated as a human being.how hard is that to know 🤦🏾‍♂

God was manifest in the flesh, came down as a son born in flesh, died and resurrected, that’s how he was begotten

@vancemiller8500

2 ай бұрын

2 Corinthians 5:19 King James Version 19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

@vancemiller8500

2 ай бұрын

To beget means to bring into existence

@marktravis5162

2 ай бұрын

@@vancemiller8500 That’s why Jesus is the firstborn from the dead

@vancemiller8500

2 ай бұрын

@marktravis5162 firstborn from the dead means first to have resurrected from the dead. Paul states Jesus was the firstborn of every creature, then He made everything, then He was the firstborn from the dead, that He may have preeminence in all things. Colossians 1 kjv 15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: 16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

@marktravis5162

2 ай бұрын

@@vancemiller8500 Yep Jesus was the first begotten from the dead, the firstborn, and then we begotten from the dead after him through the same spirit

John 8v42 Jesus says he came out of God in the Greek.

The Word!

Doesn't it say something about GOD the Father having 7 spirits?

In the beginning was the word and the word was God - etc 1john 1 - 4 doesn't this scripture imply that the word was in the beginning - Did the Word become flesh ?

The past tense begotten is from the verb 'to beget'. It means to bring into existence. Give birth to, To create etc. Jesus was brought into existence at the beginning. Making him the Firstborn OF ALL CREATION (Colossians 1:15). Logically Jesus couldn't have existed eternally like God. The term BEGINNING is always associated with created beings or things. Never with God. 'In the beginning the Word was' - John 1:1.

@ChristOverAllJeremy

2 ай бұрын

Begotten means to give birth to means to bring into existence. So you didn’t exist before your birth. You just argued for pro ab0rti0n.

@jimjuri6490

2 ай бұрын

@@ChristOverAllJeremy : Existence of a human being begins with conception. What has abortion to do with it. Humans are killed all the time. Either before they are born or after. Stay on the subject.

The problem is that both theists and atheists alike are under the assumption that the bible (KJV) teaches that this earth is God's first and only rodeo. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made >THAT WAS MADE

Jesus has always existed and was never a created being. At any rate Sam Shamoun has another gospel. Free grace is the only true gospel.

The Bible teaches that the Father is a physical being. Psa_11:4 "The LORD is in his holy temple, the LORD'S throne is in heaven: his eyes behold, his eyelids try, the children of men." He has eyes, He has eyelids. He sits on a throne. His Son is at His right hand. He is in heaven. Mat_5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. Stick to the Bible please. Proverbs 8 is about the Son of God. If it is not then there was a time when God did not have wisdom.

I wish the KJV had never translated the Greek monogenes as Begotten. It can be used for being born, but it also was used as "one of a kind" or "unique".

@BYZANTINEFINEST

2 ай бұрын

Begotten is very very unique. The Biblical Scholars knew what they were doing. Sam actually did a class on the word begotten. U should look it up💯

@georgemonnatjr.172

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@@BYZANTINEFINEST The problem is that 99.999999+% of people do not research it, they just assume it means God beget or created a lesser being.

Then why the christain takes theology from greak Philosopher if human mind cannot comprehend God. Did the christian not mislead by these Philosopher?

How can Jesus be a copy and not be beginning-less. He can be, if the Father wants him to be. Let’s not let our human thinking limit the Father. Jesus was in the Father as Eve was in Adam. And then she obtained a separate existence while retaining every bit of humanity. Jesus was in the father and He was begotten, born, came forth as a separate being while retaining every bit of Father’s divinity.

He didn’t say doublicate you said that

Jesus is not the eternal son of God but only came to be for a time being as mentioned in Psalm 2:7.Hes gonna appear as God in his second coming.

You use essence but god didn’t used that word same as trinity

Let us make man in ou likeness

GRECO-ROMAN CHRISTIANITY OR JUDEO-CHRISTIANITY? Given the fact that Jesus is not one of the many sons of Zeus, the god of the Greeks, and that the God of Abraham had never promised a Son to Israel but the Messiah (HaMashiak) which the Greek forgers and fiddlers translated as “Christos” as it is written: "I will raise among them the Messiah(Christos)HaMashiak, a Prophet(Messenger) like you Moses, Him they must listen..." Deut.18:15-19; Acts 3:17-24; Acts 7:1-30; Luke 24:25-27 and 44-47; Acts 17:1-3; John 4:24-25, Surah 3:81, etc. So Messiah(Christ) is a Prophet in the likeness of Moses as Matthew proved it. Like Moses He stayed in Egypt. Like Moses He is Mediator of a New Covenant. Considering that the Gospel that Paul proclaimed to the world mentions JESUS CHRIST SON OF GOD and not just JESUS. Therefore, we can deduce that Trinity is a misunderstanding of the Pauline doxology of “Father, Son, and Holy Spirit”! Because between Jesus Christ (HaMashiak) Son of God and Jesus Son of God... there is a great philosophical and legal difference if we take for legal framework the TEN COMMANDMENTS and the social environment where Jesus was born!

There are different ways of explaining anything. God is the Everlasting Father who created Everything. The Spermatoza and Ovumn are ancient lifeforms that existed before Science discovered them and named them. Everyone on earth is created by God. God came into human form to teach He is the intelligible Life force who is knowable, loveable and accessible to all people and visa versa. He is known as God incarnate or the Son of God or Jesus who sent from the Father, the Holy Spirit or the Omnipresence of God.

How old was Adam before he sin?? Nobody knows, the death put the age, the soul has no age, all will be 33 years of age when Jesus will be our king here on earth. We do t need to die, that's the euaggelia in the Greek language.

If YHWH is not physical but "spirtual"then whose image are we made in ? Who/what did Moses see from behind when YHWH walked past him? God is physical ,we are just not permitted to see him or perceive him same with the angels except at specific times when they have revealed themselves. Jesus is not God as he came forth from YHWH, as God created the required male genetic material make Mary preganant thus fulfilling the first prophecy/promise(YHWH gave his word) of a redeemer in genesis 3Gen 3:15 AKJV And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed; it shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel. Jesus had to come from a woman, but if he existed prior to humanity as the trinity requires, he has no link to humanity and is not of the woman, thus making YHWH a liar. He had to be made of a woman (galatians 4 v4) to be out saviour, for it's our sinful fallen nature he had to defeat/overcome, and if he was God he would not be able to be tempted by evil/sin thus have no victory over it. Jas 1:13 AKJV Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempts he any man: Jas 1:14 AKJV But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. This clearly shows YHWH is not tempted by or to sin. When he is "tempted" it's always to judge sin not commit it. Jesus was tempted in all points as we are, therefore he is not God. (Heb 2 v17-18, heb v14-15) Anything that changes his need to have the same fallen nature as us is antichrist. 1 john 4 vs 1-3 1Jn 4:1 AKJV Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 1Jn 4:2 AKJV Hereby know you the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 1Jn 4:3 AKJV And every spirit that confesses not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof you have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. The trinitarian view does just that. Destroys his humanity.

Exactly, so when you hear the father speaking from heaven and jesus being baptized, god the father was also in the man Jesus Christ .its not two divine persons

@ChristOverAllJeremy

2 ай бұрын

So the father said to himself he is his own begotten son?

@kidmeoli1458

2 ай бұрын

@@ChristOverAllJeremy THE LORD GOD of the Old Testament who is omnipresent is one with the man jesus.god the father has joined his SPIRIT TO MAN JESUS, DEITY JOINED TO HUMANITY.

@kidmeoli1458

2 ай бұрын

THOU ART MY SON THIS DAY HEAVE I BEGOTTEN THEE,THE MAN JESUS WAS BEGOTTEN NOT ETERNAL, AND THE FATHER IS ONE WITH THE MAN JESUS

God thought is in the Bible don’t twist his thought

Haliluja

So basically “God is a mystery and we understand nothing about it” according to trinitarians Yup you guys are lost

The terms eternal and begotten are not compatible. Beget means to be given existence to. (Hebrews 11:17) By faith Abraham, when he was tested, as good as offered up Isaac-the man who had gladly received the promises attempted to offer up his only-begotten son Obviously Isaac was given existence to by his father Abraham. Jesus too was brought into existence by his Father, Jehovah. .

@ChristOverAllJeremy

2 ай бұрын

Abraham, a man, begets Isaac, a man. The Father, the eternal God, begets Jesus, the… Hah, just made you think Jesus is the eternal God.

@tongakhan230

2 ай бұрын

@@ChristOverAllJeremy : God begot his son. How hard can it be to understand such a simple concept? Adam was begotten of God. That is why Adam is called God's son. Why is Jesus called the FIRSTBORN of ALL CREATION (Col 1:15) if he wasn't the Firstborn of all those God created? If the term SON is not understood, there are books called dictionaries. Please use them.

@timishift

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​@@tongakhan230 You quoted Heb 11:17 which states "Isaac was the only begotten son of Abraham" Was Isaac the only son of Abraham? What about Ishmael, was he not Abraham's son? The word ONLY BEGOTTEN means UNIQUE, just the way ISAAC was a unique son, clearly different from Ismael. It is because of the uniqueness of Isaac as the only son of that All of Abraham's inheritance went to Isaac. Not a single penny went to Ismael.

@tongakhan230

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@@timishift : Ishmael was the only begotten son of Abraham by the handmaiden Hagar. Isaac was Abraham's only begotten son by his wife Sarah. Remember that it was Sarah who was given the promise of producing the Messiah through her line. Not Hagar. Only begotten means unique no doubt. But it means someone who has been brought into existence. The verb is 'BEGET'. Check it out in a dictionary. Jesus, by God creating him. Isaac, by Abraham procreating him.

@timishift

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@@tongakhan230 Hmm...if you admit the word "only begotten" speaks about UNIQUENESS, why are trying to use the same word for Ismael. The word "only begotten" was used only SIX TIMES in the Bible in reference to Abraham- Isaac and Father - Jesus (Son). Ismael was NEVER the only begotten son of Abraham, NO. Secondly, begotten (beget) is used in the sense of a man birthing a child from a woman but the "only begotten" simply means UNIQUENESS.

Man this is a ridiculous drawn out incorrect explanation. It's simple. God has a Son. His Son is like Him. Like him just like our sons are like us. The problem he's not getting is that His Son isn't Him. He is similar in many ways but He isn't God. That's the reason you can't find a scripture that Jesus claimed to be God unless you misinterpret. Jesus was accused directly of being God and he told the Pharisees He is the Son of God.

The Father is not the. Son, The Son is not the Father, This is wrongly analyzed here, The Spirits of the Father and Jesus are always a glorified spirits, that's what the Bible is talking about

That your thought not god thought

The doctrine of eternal generation eternal sonship It's a fallacy.It's a contradiction of terms because father and son mean nothing.Outside of creation god is spirit, the son was begotten in the book of Hebrews.Chapter one in the fullness of space and time. A change in relationship is not a change in person.The eternal word became the son at the incarnation.

Doesn’t really explain anything here. Sam just implies that gods thoughts are his thoughts 😂 The father/son analogy is silly surely? Even if you are just as old as a father, you still had to be around before the son in order to beget him