Did you prefer the longer discussion topics in this video? lemme know so I can keep refining this format in time for Alpha 2 release :) Also, come join the streams: www.twitch.tv/Narciverse

@Glundberg84

Ай бұрын

You bring up some very good questions. Even if I like your new concept of discussion videos, I hope you have some Narc special hyper creative video as a side project. ;) I still have a craving for another interrogation of Steven. 😀

@bobthor9647

Ай бұрын

I liked it

We’ve reached the point where a 12 minute video is an extended discussion to narc

@GenXOG

Ай бұрын

..and 21 seconds

Weapons like staffs will be in the game and functional in start A2, they will just effectively "be a sword" or something else and share those trees until they add more weapon trees.

Dragon Age: Inquisition had the best staff combat i've ever used. Im waiting to see how Ashes handles it.

I prefer this style, having longer segments. I’d rather go deeper into a few topics than jump around a lot

Put in 380 dollars 4 years ago, can't wait to play alpha 2

@strantheman

Ай бұрын

You're doing better than me. I put in $400 in Camelot Unchained 7 years ago and while it's been in playable alpha for a couple years now it is not even half the experience they sold.

@Grux_ASG

Ай бұрын

I'll put 15$ in after it releases and play for a month 😁

@wildyoda2931

Ай бұрын

380$? I think I paid around 200$ or a little more not anywhere near 380$

@rjswas

Ай бұрын

Same, but almost $500AUD, not much longer hey, only did it because i could tell it was not a scam. Haven't been proven wrong yet.

So, they could release updates once a month to continue along with the monthly videos. For your outfit they could have reputation to get the recipe to craft it and reputation to wear it

I’m so ready for this damn game

1:19 they can take inspiration from Friar class in Dark Age of Camelot. Friar was a hybrid class, mixing a healer with melee staff combat styles.

I love how Steven never answered your question about the animation cancel? XD

@Raviis

Ай бұрын

And expressed that he liked the jingle calling Narc fat balled and retarded lol

Good format bro

Any race can use any armor, but the armor will change with the race. Instead of making 8 individual armors for each armor, there is one armor that connects to points on the 'paper doll' and a few racial changes added. This system was developed so they can try to add other changes, like religion or achievements

Good lord, if there isn't a wardrobe, I ain't playing. Keeping 500 armor sets and pieces in my bank is aids.

My thought is that they'll release Alpha 2 updates based off/during their agile sprints. Maybe the pipeline will look like: Feature completion, implementation, testing phase, patching, rinse and repeat. Definitely with multiple things concurrently being worked on. I don't know how long their sprints are, I always skip through all of the studio stuff XD, but maybe like 3 weeks per sprint? It's also entirely possible that they release each iteration.

@TheToledoTrumpton

Ай бұрын

I'm not a huge fan of Agile, simply because when it goes wrong it goes spectacularly wrong. Particularly when a non-technical customer is super-user approving sprints, and it is only being used because the customers don't know what they want, or are too incompetent to write it down. That wasn't the case here and it was more a case of Intrepid using Agile so the designers could delegate more creativity to their programmers, while still keeping tabs on them, and minimizing integration problems. It has probably taken longer, but it has resulted in a much higher quality product. I would describe it as, "Agile done right". However to a certain extent once you get to Alpha 2, you are done with Agile because your design is largely over. Right now they are testing the Alpha2 engine in a more closed test, but by the time they go into open Alpha 2, they will be pretty certain that they have the functional specification of Ashes of Creation 95% correct, there is no need to sprint, because you shouldn't be having any redesign issues coming up. They, and we, know pretty much how things are going to function, it is just a case of adding Art and content data, and a lot of inheritance. That is why I am optimistic of a release next year. I think they will be into a waterfall soon, and it is pretty much going to be bug fixing and fleshing out content, not redesign. If they are genuinely sprinting in Alpha2 then they are in deep trouble, because a redesign issue is going to necessitate a rewrite of all the art and content dependent on that functionality. I think we are already seeing that acceleration of progress.

@lupen7996

Ай бұрын

@@TheToledoTrumpton I don't like Agile either, especially since my experience with it has been with Enterprise companies which have been ran terribly (e.g. SAFe Agile + the non-technical leadership you mentioned above. Ick). I just remember Steven bringing up that his team functioned as an Agile team and was working towards Milestone 11 (or something, my memory is foggy). A little off-topic, but I feel like this idea of Agile done right is often amorphous, and usually brought up when teams completely butcher their execution of Agile (not that I think Intrepid has done a bad job, I'm liking the progress I've seen, especially recently). Now regarding a release next year, I think that's a tall order. I personally think we'll see a release in 2026/2027, but this is pure speculation on my part. We could see something at the end of the month though that indicates increased cadence.

@TheToledoTrumpton

Ай бұрын

It is just going to be a case of how many artists and content creators (story arc, POI, dungeon/raid designers etc.) they can throw at it. However, I do think that even that gets faster and copy/paste starts to become possible. It is even possible/likely that even that sort of thing may be generated, and once they have one going, making 100 of them is no issue. Nowadays, it is the work of a minute to use AI to, "Rewrite this quest, only change the gender/race of the quest-giver, and make them angrier!" Similarly they can use AI to create models, once they have something to copy, and the art design software is out of this world. It is now the 21st century, I'd be shocked if it wasn't out next year.

I kind of like ESOs method of crafting in different styles. Each motif has a specific resource to use to craft in that style, you also must learn the different races styles from books that are fairly rare drops

I'd like the idea of having transmog cosmetics for social reasons but having the gear keep its original skin for battle. Even if the gear isn't matching you see the guy with the special shoulders or weapon while on the battlefield and provides helpful info since it could have a triggered ability, activated ability or specific stats.

One of the characters i want to make is a tank/mage with a melee staff.

I recall Steven saying every armor has specific tailoring to each race and all races can use all armors. If I'm not mistaken of course.

@tripbunny

Ай бұрын

Yeah that's how I understand it

I think it will be a mix of purposefully withheld content patches that need to be experienced separately for targeted feedback, along with smaller things sprinkled in (like staffs) that can just get thrown into the mix whenever. As for colors and such, I really hope they cool it on the jewel tones. Steven's team looked like they were sponsored by NERF.

1:04 I'm on the telly, mum!

@rjswas

Ай бұрын

YAY you, your mum says HI.

I think the tiny things are going to be weekly. The major updates will probably every three months. They said the rogue and summoner will be in the 'first major update' which i think will be in 3 months.

You talked about melee staff. I want the gandalf archetype

Personally I prefer smaller regular updates for multiple reasons : 1- As you mentionned, feedback will be focused on that small batch of features released. 2- similar to a CICD methodology but with players feedback, if issues of early iterations / partial realization of a feature are not fitting player expectations or has negative feedback, they can modify it and integrate feedback earlier in the feature development loop compared to if they release the full feature, and then something core to the feature is not well received and they have to break it and recreate it wasting dev time 3- Keeping testers engaged, instead of playing for ~1-2 weeks and then not engage ith the game as much until another big update releases a month+ later to then again have a spike of players for 1-2 weeks, with regular small updates, players continuously have things to test, and with the added features / content, it is much harder for a 'meta' to be established as the game is fluidly evolving along the players 4- involving alpha testers early in a feature's development might provide them with unforseen ideas for the evolution of that feature. I like to call this process emergent development. Just with the sheet amount of A2 players, amazing original ideas are bound to emerge idk what you think of these

I want to be able to try to collect the pets, mounts, transmog, boats, and whatever else can be collectible. I haven't heard a lot on this topic. I really want to know what a collection system looks like in Ashes and what tools we will have for those of us who like to chase things down and attempt to complete it all. I assume this will come later if it does, but I am curious what plans are being made for this. Maybe none at all?

you ever try and swing a staff with force while holding the upper top of the staff and not have the lower part bash into your shines

Does anyone know if we will be able to dye our armor like in guild wars 2?

@stickyrubb

Ай бұрын

They've said they're thinking about a similar dye system in AoC, yes.

@qwertpoo1

Ай бұрын

@@stickyrubb good because I hate the base colors they used for most of the armor but it makes sense to make it look like the basic form

@joshuahetherington5161

Ай бұрын

I hope they don't allow immerison breaking colours though, last thing I want riding through my Node is a bright hot-pink cleric jiggling to a luminescent green bard's tune. Keep an Ashes of Creation colour palette and I'd be happy.

Are you planning on uploading more Pax Dei content soon?

If like Crowfall they will add small and large patches as they come out

we need a bo staff

pretty good cope video

about vek race, didn't they suppose to not stand straight? Did they change this idea? They pretty much stand like human with just different skin and face.

wooooooo

The race specific armour features probably arent in the game yet.

Considering the way to drop content I think dropping regularly bigger chunks of content will be better overall for more feedback. People will naturally drop off the game after some time. And adding larger chunks of content will be way more likely to drag people back in than having small pieces of new stuff dropped every week or two. A 2-3 month cycle might be a good spot.

Sword and staff? Intrepid? Hello?

Steven has made his disdain for ESO style 'cancelation' pretty clear. However, he did not say if he was pro/con queuing spells/attacks. Since he was talking about quick activations, I don't believe he likes queuing either

Why isnt alpha 2 called beta ?

@joshuahetherington5161

Ай бұрын

Beta comes next, there will be a Beta 1 and Beta 2. Hopefully next year probably the year after

Appropriation Fee LOL That's sick

There is soooo much that is not ready yet at all. So much

@ImmortalityV

Ай бұрын

It'll never be ready. It's an alpha

@Arthur-1337

Ай бұрын

Hence the Alpha...

@tygoro

Ай бұрын

name 3 things

Yo you have to ask him about seasonal events like Christmas or Halloween. I would hate for them to do events in game for real world things. They need to have their own holidays to really immerse us. Please push no Christmas new years pride none of it

daddy are we there yet? :D

Fashions of Creation! I like big closets!

I feel like they're going to add in a bunch of things just because they have a bunch of people. Isn't there like 180k people signed up for A2? I feel like that's enough people to give feedback across all aspects of the game. Especially if they make sure feedback is easy to give.

@gimpg5329

Ай бұрын

Think the point was that its going to be overahadowed, not necessarily that it wont exist and that people Will focus on the Big parts. Resulting in a majority not thinking about the feedback, thus Only people that care about a system Will give it. Resulting in bad data

@vexillian

Ай бұрын

@gimpg5329 Yeah, that's what I interpreted Narc's discussion to be too. I just figured the sample size was large enough, and if coupled with an easy feedback system, might be able to overcome that issue. But I've never been on the other end of a large feedback system, so I can't say anything confidently.

@vrdynasty3896

Ай бұрын

I mean this makes sense. If a system is fine on release but there's a mechanic within that system that breaks another system.. thats messy. It will probably be a mix of large for things that make sense.

@gimpg5329

Ай бұрын

@@vexillian Im not 100% sure, but i think that when you do surveys. You want a certain %:age to respond to consider the survey to yield a good result. Specific groups might be the only ones giving opinions on smaller topics, which can yield feedback that might not be accurate to the overall AoC community if they are distracted by the bigger new things.

@vexillian

Ай бұрын

@@gimpg5329 How many children spent $250 for A2 access?

No they should release content in groups, gw2 does it and small things do not get missed, every word of the updates is read

2-3 months between and adding a TON at once. Most of these 2-3 month updates will come with a wipe

@justinwhite2725

Ай бұрын

They have said no wipes are planned during A2 (but they aren't impossible if needed)

@JamesBlake1208

Ай бұрын

@@justinwhite2725that’s quite untrue. They have said they do plan on having wipes during A2. Check out the wiki

@JamesBlake1208

Ай бұрын

@@justinwhite2725after re-reading the wiki, their goal is not to have server wipes, but they will 100% have character wipes they said. I’m also highly skeptical about their “goal” not to have server wipes. I believe it is inevitable.

@joshuahetherington5161

Ай бұрын

@@JamesBlake1208 I agree it's probably inevitable because of human error but if I was Steven Shariff I would want my developers to aim for their systems not needing the safety blanket of a server wipe. Baking that in their heads early on ensures they're thinking big picture all the time. "If I add this new weapon how will this affect the weapon skill trees, artisan skill trees, economy, etc". All that is full on projection I have no insider knowledge, it is what I would do though.

@JamesBlake1208

Ай бұрын

@@joshuahetherington5161sure, but if you never wipe, how do you test the starting phase of the game more than once? The spawns, the rush to nodes, the leveling of the first nodes on the server, the load that everyone trying to log on at the same time puts on their servers. Those things should definitely be tested more than just the one time (as changes are made to the game) to ensure launch is smooth. I just forsee them wanting to reset the world a few times to see how all of their changes makes players go about the first couple days of playing.

YOUR VIDEOS DON'T SHOW UP ON MY "SUBSCRIBED", WTF KZread

saying blue hair is emersion breaking in a fantasy world where people are half monster and shoot magic out of their asses is a bit of stretch buddy.

@joshuahetherington5161

Ай бұрын

Depends on the type of blue

Honestly, this game probably won't be released for years. It seems like a lucrative project just to have it in the production stage for 15 years. Fans fund it, sponsors fund it; they are just milking this for dear life... The moment the finished game drops, if it sucks, it's over for this developement team. It's frustrating...

@joshuahetherington5161

Ай бұрын

Obviously if it sucks it's curtains for the development team, that's the same for any new company launching a new product, if it don't sell, company goes bye bye. As for the "milking" comment, the money Intrepid studies has received is mostly Steven Shariff's own finances, partly investor funded and partly fan funded through kickstarter and people buying the alpha packs. The big difference that Ashes of Creation has compared to the many, many, many, many other scams, broken promises, mis-sold dogshit that's come before is the fact that they're doing an open development. We get to see the majority of this game being built and tested with our own eyes, they have an entire community department that's set up to gather feedback from their forums, KZread videos, Twitch streams, etc and collate that for the developers of the game to use. While all of this is no guarantee that the game will be good, it's a bloody decent and refreshing attempt by the genre to give the players a good MMO that isn't pay-to-win BS. Fingers crossed it comes out soon! Realistically I think it'll be another 2-3 years for it's release, I hope sooner.

@user-zz9pj2xz7m

Ай бұрын

@@joshuahetherington5161 I hope you are right, I'm just super frustrated. W8ing is killing me. Sorry! I want it to be amazing!

@joshuahetherington5161

Ай бұрын

​@@user-zz9pj2xz7m I do too buddy! I've been following this for the past 4 years. It's exciting to maybe get some of that old school MMO feeling but with modern graphics. Hope to see you in the world of Ashes in the near future! Best of luck 💪

@rext3404

29 күн бұрын

Shit happens. Hopefully things work out, though.

@joshuahetherington5161

29 күн бұрын

​@@user-zz9pj2xz7m yeah I'm the same mate, can't wait for it. I've loved MMO's for years and have kept an eye on the space over the years. It's been pretty disappointing the direction the genre has gone, "Single player game with other people around who you don't need to do anything with" or else it's Pay to Win because the company isn't doing a subscription model for fear that it's a barrier to entry so they need to make money somehow from their "Free to play" approach. They also sell cosmetics to make money too which guts the in-game progression, "why grind this hard quest/craft to get the gear when I can just buy it from the in-game shop". It's shallow thinking from the games companies, short term money but long-term the player base checks out as there's nothing fulfilling from the gameplay. It's also doesn't incentivise the Devs to continually make the game better, whereas, if it's a subscription model the Devs are forced to improve and build upon the game otherwise they lose player subscriptions. "Live and die by the subscriptions" is the phrase used and I wholeheartedly agree. I used to play this game "Dofus" which had a subscription but also a free to play zone, no barrier to entry to try out different classes. I hope Ashes of Creation does something similar

Staff animations seem like when an npc attacks atm..

I think you live in a very small world.

2017 paid to play alpha 1. 7 years later.....

Digging the racial armor acquisition fee idea via artisan vendor. Maybe add a little "effort" to it by only allowing it to be purchased in the races particular city. Vek = Vek capital city.

Copium dealer man

When is the game scam coming out ? 🤔

Give up boy

Oh, yeah! AoC is still a thing. So, when's the game coming out, again? Exactly.

@Kardurst9789

Ай бұрын

2028.

@Skull7Prayer

Ай бұрын

optimistic romours says late 2026. normal romours says 2027-2028. pessimistic romour says 2030 +

@trojancs16

Ай бұрын

It will be officially launched in 2030, because the alpha will last 3-5 years.

@Skull7Prayer

Ай бұрын

@@trojancs16 they cant delay it so much, its not wise anyways and they know it. they gonna release it sooner no matter what cause they are already late and they cant keep it in development for that many years. They are taking their time, they did many changes, they want to release a dope game yes, but players' patience has limits and they play with fire already. Another 3-4 years is the safest guess, for alpha 2, betas and release, cause anything more than that is game over. Already majority of people who followed the game since 2017 are out of interest already (but tbh is hard to keep up from the start cause games like that need 7-10 years of development). We will see.

@trojancs16

Ай бұрын

@@Skull7Prayer That is the reality, intrepid proposed a date for the release of alpha 2 that would be in Q3, but the intrepid developers were skeptical about the date, since Steven is tired of waiting so long, (they have been in development for almost 10 years and They just started developing the game in 2021-22)

I dont like your new twitch format.

@baranteyfur4800

Ай бұрын

I don't either but people praise him for it. And it is way less effort for him for pretty much the same amount of views

This game is a meme, it will never release

stick to marbles

An armor piece looking completely different based on who wears it is a stupid mechanic...less realistic than blue hair