Even if you don't agree with all Would appreciate it if you think it's atleast complex multiversal 🙏

@Ichigothagoat

Жыл бұрын

Tbh I’m waiting for the ignorant hate comments 😂

@vegetascales1643

Жыл бұрын

@@Ichigothagoat same Im wondering what kind of downplay they have 🗿

@Ichigothagoat

Жыл бұрын

@@vegetascales1643 “uh well actually the daizenshuu is unreliable and fake”

@vegetascales1643

Жыл бұрын

@@Ichigothagoat yeah and it's all hyperbole 🤓

@Ichigothagoat

Жыл бұрын

@@vegetascales1643 fax 🤓

New Gen fans be like: I'm going to ignore that

@RCAS-ps6vg

Жыл бұрын

Gen fans ? , what is Gen

@ultronsigma2737

Жыл бұрын

@@RCAS-ps6vg generation

@T00Nforce..

Жыл бұрын

When y don't know Space is ∞ no matter what

@fuckthisstupidasshandleshit

Жыл бұрын

Of course. After all, it's false.

@cloverkingdom6341

Жыл бұрын

Especially saitama fanboys LMAO

This was phenomenal, simple and straight forward with cited sources. I enjoyed this and the voice keeps you locked in. You considered low-ends and high-ends and sweet spot mid-ends. Phenomenal job.

@vegetascales1643

Жыл бұрын

Could have never done it without your help Atari 🙏

@therealstabbyman

Жыл бұрын

The GOAT!!

Dragon Ball Heroes Cosmology: *Cute.* This is an amazingly well done video. Very informative and possesses all the scans and proof needed to back up your statements. I'd personally be surprised to see someone disagreeing or trying to deny it.

@republicoftheunitedstateso8935

Жыл бұрын

Dragon Ball Xenoverse Cosmology: True brother. All true u said.

@vegetascales1643

Жыл бұрын

Common random citizen WWW

@burst3phonk

Жыл бұрын

Yo you gonna do DBs cosmology like that 😂 alright Toriyama and koyama db cosmology: *my goals are beyond your understanding*

@QuazarNovaPrime

Жыл бұрын

Pretty much, it involves infinite timelines and another layer of dimensionality where the game itself is held

@burst3phonk

Жыл бұрын

@@QuazarNovaPrime demigra and beat are outerversal because beats world is where sdbh is a game, demigras world is sdbh itself, and he knew about his world outside which is reality, so he could destroy it/go there

Very nice job explaining the cosmology, I personally don't use otherworld statements, but after some consideration, I think I might actually use it for otherworld, which could be 4 spatial+1 temporal. People downplay dragon ball's cosmology so much, videos like these help spread the word.

You could call otherworld outer because it has no concept of time. And since space can't exist without time that also means to have no concept of space. And we know it can't be 0d because it has at least three dimensional beings in it. And a three-dimensional planet ( King Kai's ) in it. So it has to be unbounded by space and time. And that would make it outer. You can also mention the fact that it works on the metaphysical level.

@ranzis5389

Жыл бұрын

Other world is 5d because it's non temporal meaning its a dimension without time (goku proves this when he says ssj3 is a form that should only be used in the other world) not outer

@gamerforever300

Жыл бұрын

@@ranzis5389 space can't exist without time. So since it doesn't have time, that also means it has no space. And since otherworld has no concept of time, it's would also have no concept of space because the concept of space can't exist the concept of time.

@chiefkishin

Жыл бұрын

Your saying an field of study (metaphysical) or (metaphysics) scale to 1-A or outerversal.

@gamerforever300

Жыл бұрын

@@chiefkishin yeah you could scale it to outer since it deals with abstract concepts like time, space and dimensionality. But it's more of supporting evidence to further prove that otherworld is outer.

@gamingwithfireshot

Жыл бұрын

​@@gamerforever300bro do you have discord can you tell me you're id and can can you provide me whole written proff of db cosmology to be outer?

This is a great video man, keep it up!

@vegetascales1643

Жыл бұрын

OHHH DAMN did not expect you to comment love your videos man and thanks for watching 🔥🙏

thanks for video!

bro scales so much/awesomely❤🔥🗿🐐

You know one scene that always is stuck in my head is where Goku and Vegeta powering up and kid Buu literally traveling from universes through different dimensions. In matter of seconds, the speed feat on this pure insanity

@hydro1526

Жыл бұрын

i mean SSJ3 Ki when first appear already leak to the Supreme Kaioshin realm which is outside of the Living Universe that is infinite

@amaliosaenz23

Жыл бұрын

@@hydro1526 I would say that these guys are definitely out of versatile threats or at least high multiversal. Even now they're probably beyond that given said feats inside of DBZ

@pagalladka9809

Жыл бұрын

Real that was menacing

@hungthe-xu4ce

Жыл бұрын

@@amaliosaenz23 So Z Goku Buu Saga=High Multi!

@Smokeychees

Жыл бұрын

@@amaliosaenz23didn’ kid buu use istant transmission to go to goku and vegeta?

OMG- Oki. I've sub and liked your video. This means that Goku was way more powerful than what i've calculated for him- You've taught me so much!

You explained this better than how people who use their real voice could

But ppl are still saying Goku's 3D or 4D 😭

@P.Rapozito

Жыл бұрын

W T H

@Abrold

Жыл бұрын

What? He can't even Fucking defeats moro who is only galaxy level

@hungthe-xu4ce

Жыл бұрын

@@AbroldSatire?

@tizianocannavo8527

Жыл бұрын

​@@hungthe-xu4ceHope so

@eccentric1007

Жыл бұрын

@@Abrold bro I found you again and JF goku solos

You know what's crazy Goku was being Highballed Universal like a few years ago

@ssflickgaming3384

Жыл бұрын

Hello Tony fancy seeing u here

@TheeSinnerman

Жыл бұрын

@@ssflickgaming3384 Small world...

This is why I get annoyed with ppl doing versus with Goku & other characters that aren't even universal in power. I'm like, "My bro, you need to be a universe buster to even be at any level of consideration". Goku was going to destroy the macrocosm as COLLATERAL DAMAGE. Like, c'mon, I'm not saying Goku is the strongest in all fiction, but the disrespect on DB characters I keep seeing on the internet is criminal.

BULMA DEBUNKED INFINITE UNIVERSE🤓

@vegetascales1643

Жыл бұрын

Ong 😭🤓

@ranzis5389

Жыл бұрын

People don't understand that the so called "observable" universe she was referring to is the 3rd dimensional space that is always expanding. Space + Time is infinite and the living world is a temporal dimension meaning it is infinite

@Neko_Mario

Жыл бұрын

@@ranzis5389 Not to mention Jaco essentially called her crazy right after for implying the universe being anything less than infinite lol.

@faisali.chowdhiry821

Жыл бұрын

​@@vegetascales1643so goku oneshots fodder kratos

Bro amazing vid, do u agree with the world of void being a higher dimension than the macrocosm

@vegetascales1643

Жыл бұрын

Yeah by narrative implications it probably is, since the world of void is supposed to be a realm where the fighters can go all out without damaging the multiverse and other realms, so it probably is

@MrCraftyScales

Жыл бұрын

@@vegetascales1643 ya my reasoning is that Goku had to get a transcendent amp just to effect this realm as well as the statements about extra dimensional fighters fighting there

The chad never fail to impress and slam haters

I think Dbs = Dbh Both has Same Cosmology But Dbh Is On Future based Timeline thats why we see some Overpowered Feats in Dbh Like Goku Black Arc

@vegetascales1643

Жыл бұрын

Think so too but kept it simple for the new Audience and simplicity

@QuazarNovaPrime

Жыл бұрын

DBH involves infinite Timelines.

@Shallot.Db72

Жыл бұрын

@@QuazarNovaPrime same goes to dbs

@memelord8706

Жыл бұрын

​@@Shallot.Db72 dbh has higher dimensions like beats world and charisma world, they also have their own timelines more like a higher dimensional axis of time, hyper time from dc to be exact.

@life_riderthe1748

Жыл бұрын

@@memelord8706 they exist in the same db multiverse just a different timeline/continuity it was confirmed sdbh takes place in the same db multiverse that contains dbs

W. Im a new subscriber.

@vegetascales1643

Жыл бұрын

AYEEEE 🔥🔥🔥

Nice video

Electron found a scan of the time chamber having no contact of time

@vegetascales1643

Жыл бұрын

That was the sugoroku space scan

@srnova9486

Жыл бұрын

@@vegetascales1643 It actually does say hyperbolic time chamber has no concept of time AND space Sadly it's easily debunked since it's literally shown that time exists in the hyperbolic time chamber

Nice 👌

Goku is such a goat character

Common W from the goat🐐

He can scale hyper and beyond like Kakumei goku

Can I ask for the source of the scan about the CGI team for DBS Broly specifying that the superdimensions being specifically mathematically higher dimensions? I've been looking for it but I can't find it.

@vegetascales1643

Жыл бұрын

It's in the dragon ball app/website You can even download it on the phone.

Absolutely fax and love the video and if some fans think that another or rimuru slam dbs I can just send this video

@hungthe-xu4ce

Жыл бұрын

be careful before you send that because some downplayer or Goku haters never accept that

@hydro1526

Жыл бұрын

@@hungthe-xu4ce true they are everywhere

@hungthe-xu4ce

Жыл бұрын

​@@hydro1526 Nguoi Viet a Ok gap phai roi

@hydro1526

Жыл бұрын

@@hungthe-xu4ce :V ông mới biết cái scale này bao lâu rồi ?

@hungthe-xu4ce

Жыл бұрын

@@hydro1526 toi khong nghi viet nam minh biet cai nay dau,Fan Viet Nam nghi Goku voi Tat ca cac form scailing at max

Decent video, However the problem is the hilbert space point, a hilbert space in context to a type 3 multiverse is ONLY finite if there is only finite possible worlds or a finite number of states and configurations, SINCE the scan you used said there is an infinite number of them that means it's not finite then it's a logical neccitity that it's infinite dimensional there is an infinite number of states and configurations

I just dont agree with type 3 but ngl this scale is so accurate like neither downplaying nor wanking, thanks i needed this scale :)

@monkepopbloon2307

5 ай бұрын

Well it does not really matter as no one in canon scales to the higher upmosts limits so it wont effect how strong goku is

@A.B.O.E

2 ай бұрын

Why don't you agree with Type 3 multiverse?

Easy to understand. Dragon Ball is a strong verse. However, only those who have a firm grasp of even the world of the work will understand it. In any manga or anime, surprisingly few people have a firm grasp of the world view. If we are talking about scale, we will fail if we do not have a firm grasp of the world.

Those dimensions gogeta and broly broke though were stated by the staff to be a cho-jigen which verbatim means to be beyond ko-jigen which means higher dimensions, so they technically shattered beyond higher dimensions right?

@vegetascales1643

Жыл бұрын

You can say so yeah And the fact there's several of these is scary

@faisali.chowdhiry821

Жыл бұрын

​@@vegetascales1643so ultra vegito from callmearj should scale to boundless

@sonraonofficial631

Жыл бұрын

​@@faisali.chowdhiry821 I've got calmearj's Ultra Vegito to High Outer + since he's stronger than the angels with heroes scaling even at base form.

@faisali.chowdhiry821

Жыл бұрын

@@sonraonofficial631 so where would younscale callmearj yamoshi ?

@sonraonofficial631

Жыл бұрын

@@faisali.chowdhiry821 Since Yamoshi in the God slayer/Ultra. Vegito series is the third strongest being below Zeno. I'd have him at least in a lot of layers in High Outer since : Angels with Heroes scaling are layers in High Outer via being - obviously - above the Universal Tree and Universal SSB Goku. - Base Ultra Vegito being stronger than them so he's a few layers in High Outer+ - Yamoshi being the third of the five strongest beings below Zeno, puts him easily above the angels but below the other Strong beings above him (since they're five in total), the Grand Priest, Zeno's Guards and Zeno himself. Ultra Vegito for the most part tied out with him so Yamoshi is either equal to him or ever so slightly above him.

High hyper 🤝

@hungthe-xu4ce

Жыл бұрын

even scale to high outer and beyond

@Sergiopro2006

20 күн бұрын

👍

ABSOLUTE CINEMA 😭

Dragon Ball Heroes Cosmology when

Nice video 10/10, now i have a question, do you have a DS Server?

Nice video but within the comtext they are talking about hilbert space within a 3rd level multiverse is infinite dimensional via the definition the go by.

@Aetmero

2 ай бұрын

Ok ive been looking for this for a while as people always talk about quantum mechanics. This doesn’t work though because the dimensions of a hilbert space are not temporal or spatial, they are measurable outcomes. By this definition three electrons in a trench coat are 8D. But we can quantify a maximum energy in them comparable to a 2D system of a single electron. It just doesn’t make sense with the dimensionality we use for scaling. I don’t know if you agree with the qmec stuff and i know it had been 8months but I’ve been seeing this and had to talk about it.

W

You missed one realm/extra dimensional space which is the white page in Dr. Slump. It arguably transcends every dimension in the main canon, but I'm kind of neutral on that, and Dr. Slumps penguin island exists on the dragon ball map and they both mention each other in each others main canon material narratively multiple times.

👍

So dragon ball cosmology is hyperversal? HELL YEAH

I don’t see a high ball in the vid, if there was, then what would it be?

Finally scaling video W, also, do you scale Goku to beyond infinity since he was about to destroy his infinite universe & the 7d kaioshin realm beyond the infinite universe to max low ball infinite 4d? Would he be able to destroy the afterlife and demon realm or would he need to be 5d? Does it make goku 7d just by being able to destroy dimensions?

@Ascendant43

Жыл бұрын

Do you want a scaling for dbs anime Goku? Then i could help

@burst3phonk

Жыл бұрын

@@Ascendant43 yes sure the different dimensionalities of worlds and what dimensionality a character has could help bro

@Ascendant43

Жыл бұрын

@@burst3phonk do you want lowballed/midballed/highballed and with explanation or not?

@burst3phonk

Жыл бұрын

@@Ascendant43 mid ball W/ explanation pls

@vegetascales1643

Жыл бұрын

Anime Goku scales to the timeline In my opinion he's complex multiversal - high complex - Hyperversal

Wouldn't infinite Zamasu scale to it cuz he went to space between timelines since he existed in 2 at the same time

@vegetascales1643

Жыл бұрын

Nope he just traveled through it to make it to the other timeline He actually would scale to it if given enough time beacuse then he can fuse with all timlines+ that space.

@ElectronX386

Жыл бұрын

@@vegetascales1643 The thing about that is that it was implied the zamasu was going beyond the entirety of the parallel worlds

You forgot that at the start there where 18 universe so the cosmology would be higher w scale

Midtama fans: im going to ignore this💀

Fax DBS goku Can scale Complex multiverse to High hyperversal and Beyond 👍 good

@hydro1526

Жыл бұрын

vãi thật người Việt cũng biết đo sức mạnh Goku lên Complex Multiverse rồi à ?

@hungthe-xu4ce

Жыл бұрын

@@hydro1526 🙃cung vai nguoi viet nam hieu biet ve db cosmology scale ma la cung la fan Goku ma co sao dau

Common Vegetascales W

@vegetascales1643

Жыл бұрын

Common KFC Negs W

Clicked way too quick cuz its still 360p🗿

@vegetascales1643

Жыл бұрын

😂

but the clarifications of hyperspace should not only be taken for the anime? because that never happened in the manga. Anyway good video, there are not many people who really investigate the subject of cosmology, many only place multiversal under cosmology in general.

@ElectronX386

Жыл бұрын

toriyama stated all of the anime is canon, But somehow connected to the manga it's intertwined and interchangeable for example manga only characters appearing in the anime.

@stefanobaymalk7877

Жыл бұрын

@@ElectronX386 Bro, can you gave me the scan or link to see that state?

Well Goku in base os high outer since mortal realm has infinite dimensional hierarchies and goku Transcends it making him high Outerversal

@P.Rapozito

Жыл бұрын

Highly questionable, current Goku at most should reach High-Complex/Nigh Low-Hyperversal.

@noob19_

Жыл бұрын

@@P.Rapozito Goku has the power to destroy this universe

@P.Rapozito

Жыл бұрын

@@noob19_ The macrocosm is infinite in SIZE, not infinite in dimensionality.

@noob19_

Жыл бұрын

@@P.Rapozito The afterlife is inside the macrocosm

@abhrobiswas4956

Жыл бұрын

​@@P.Rapozito It has a Infinite hierarchy of dimensions according to Koyama, and still it doesn't contradict anything, rest is upto you.

that's only one universes imagine destroying all universe's this show how op zeno is

Link to the light novel please 🙏?.

Your comparison is Low-Ball Comparison and agree with you.

So how many space time continuums are there in a single universe? 7 or less or more?

But Saitama still beats Goku Average OPM fan 🤓🤓

@Abrold

Жыл бұрын

Because he can dude

@denisn8336

Жыл бұрын

@@Abroldnope. Seen your comments too don’t be a saitard.

Saying the after life don't have time is grazy since it's started by the kai that time run slower than the living world and every timeline has an afterlife

@PurgatoryBan101

Жыл бұрын

literally multiple scans prove the afterlife doesnt have time

@Sakupenny

11 ай бұрын

@@PurgatoryBan101 fr

damn i didn't the dbz solar system had a nebulae in it what tier would that make cell then

@hydro1526

Жыл бұрын

Cell manga Multi Solar system | Cell anime multi galaxy (since anime frieza destroy a galaxy)

@messla2resimia943

Жыл бұрын

@@hydro1526 Scans?

@hydro1526

Жыл бұрын

@@messla2resimia943 scan on what ? the Frieza destroying Galaxy (is on youtube) and in the video Vegeta Scale already show the scan that a Solar System in Dragon Ball is a galactic Nebulae at 0:48

@ElectronX386

Жыл бұрын

@@messla2resimia943 Yeah sure kzread.info/dash/bejne/aah60smpk6-TisY.html

……….. if all of this is bound to a timeline than how does any of this go beyond 4D… time is linear… and all of this is bound to a timeline… so again how does any of this go beyond 4D..

@Smokeychees

Жыл бұрын

Because those dimensions are sealed by dimensional wall that would explain even the draw of the macrosmos And even if you don’t want to take those The super dimensional remain a su space whit higher dimension that upscale the cosmology to multiversal+(lowball) and 5D/6D

@POTATO_EDITZS

Жыл бұрын

That's not normal linear time they are seperate planes of Reality

@hungthe-xu4ce

Жыл бұрын

@@Smokeychees Low Complex Multi+++Lowball Start

Boss link to the light novel 🙏

Amazing and very well researched. I personally have 12D Goku as a lowball and midball around 15-16D in base with transformations possibly making him nearing 20D. I'll try to explain so you can make you own assessment. Living World=6-7 (This is including 2-3 Super Dimensions from the Broly movie on top of the 4D realm and the other dimensions parallel to it. I'll just go with 7D to simplify the rest) Afterlife=9D (Based on the higher dimension Goku raced Bulma in and might be the same dimension as the Macrocosm bubble that holds the more visible afterlife) Kaioshin Realm=10D (Based on it circling beyond the main Macrocosm and also based on Koyama's statements which I know you mentioned to leave out just to stay simple for the video) The larger universe that we see in the bubbles=11D (Since in some shots we see not only the Kaioshin Realm seemingly being connected to a larger universe, but also transended by it more than likely as it goes way further beyond to where this Realm and the Macrocosm become invisible in comparison. I also believe the larger universe to be where Beerus's home resides. Unless this was disproven and he's just in the living realm. Idk lol) Neutral Zone=12D (Axiomatically must be larger of course) Zeno's Realm=13D (Since it's seems to be fully separate and different in appearance from the shown Neutral Zone, and the fact that it resembles the afterlife, I can only assume it must transend it) The Timeline=14D (Contains everything below. What Infinite Zamasu became) The space between/containing the timelines. Possibly the World of Void as well or parallel to it=15D (Possibly the same dimensiality but maybe not which is why I also consider the next one) World of Void?=16D (Assuming this transends even the timeline containing space as it has no time and space alongside everything else below so I'm assuming it's likely higher. Also since the point of it was to be a space the fighters could go all out in. Or so they thought as Goku and many others were able to shake the entire realm anyway lol. Now after the massive Zenkais during that tournament and after. It's most likely that base Goku could do this. Tbh I forgot if he already did so in base lol. But at least I would assume current Goku easily could. You could also make some Outerversal argument and claim the World of Void is beyond dimensiality, but I'm not sure I'd go that far for main timeline canon Goku. So I'll stick with 15 and likely 16D in base for now with transformations likely adding a few Ds to that lol) Sorry this got so long. I tend to do that a lot lmao.

@vegetascales1643

Жыл бұрын

Oh yeah forgot about the world of void 😂 The only complain I have for this scale is that I'm skeptical about the super dimensions beacuse I don't know if they Transecend eachother so that's why I'll keep them at 5D for now, but that was an amazing scale man that was really good 🔥🔥🔥

@Neko_Mario

Жыл бұрын

@@vegetascales1643 Thanks ^^ and lol yeah The World of Void is a weird one regardless. I just assume it transends everything else we've seen in Super as narratively it's treated like some higher spaceless, timeless space that they could fight in and the Grand Priest could manipulate without harming the lesser realms. So narratively it would make sense at least to me. Yeah I can understand that, though I have a few reasons as to why the Super Dimensions more than likely are transcendent. 1. The definition of Super Dimensions is pretty much exclusively used for describing transcendental/higher dimensions. 2. They were breaking dimensional walls and weren't just simply appearing in the Demon Realm, Room of Spirit and Time, etc, but were instead breaking into higher indescribable dimensions that the writets described as mathematical dimensions made to look 3D which would imply they were beyond that and likely the 4D time space as well since they they broke seversal dimensional barriers. 3. Narratively I think it just makes more sense that their power was spiking so high that they were casually breaking limits into said dimensions as growth in strength is well, Dragon Ball itself basically lol. I don't think they'd throw something like that in unless it were meant to mean something huge like transcending to new heights in power and causing something like that even while having essentially mastered Ki control. I might have other reasons as well but this was all that came to mind at the moment. May have just forgotten the others. But again thanks. 🙏

@vegetascales1643

Жыл бұрын

@@Neko_Mario honestly you have a point in the World of void, we know that it was created for the fighters so they can't harm the lower realms which makes sense beacuse narratively Jiren was above infinite zamasu who became the timeline,.and it's even more impressive that Goku shook this realm and toppo warped it. And about the super dimensions now that you have me that explanation it actually makes more sense to me why they could be transcendes so thank you bro legitimately one of the only reasonable people on yt 👑🔥🙏

@Neko_Mario

Жыл бұрын

@@vegetascales1643 Thanks. That really does mean a lot. To be fair I got most of this from Atari and some of the extra points you brought up then just made a few additional assessments. You both did all the work in terms of scans and such. But yeah I'm just glad to see you and this comment section are more civil and reasonable and use legitimate argumentation rather than everyone just screaming at eachother to "win". Breath of fresh air really. 😅

@eeeeeeeee8

Жыл бұрын

You forget about the hyperspace

8:54 Wait but does DBS itself show us there’s infinite timelines?

Both ‘Dr. Slump’ and ‘Dragon Ball’ co-existed in Universe 7. If each of 12 (formerly 18) alternate DB universes is TRULY INFINITE, then we would completely impressed after nearly 45 years.

World of void is void of concepts which is definition of an outerverse. Dr slump verse is full of tune force and is part of cannon db verse, one mortal realm in DB has no conceivable measurement far beyond a googooplex times bigger than our own or any other conceivable number putting it on par with the infinite multiverse of other fictions that have a finite unit of measurement for their individual universes expansion Db has infinite timelines and several different insanely infinite realms most people don’t even know exist and have been shown. It’s truly a ridiculous cosmology

from any web you got the super dimension interview scan

@hypersonic7458

Жыл бұрын

and the several dimension scan

@realkingrav2265

Жыл бұрын

@@hypersonic7458 it’s on the dragonball website

@abhrobiswas4956

Жыл бұрын

It's mentioned in the Broly Novel.

@YT-Kenzei

Жыл бұрын

@@hypersonic7458 wanna know something crazy gogeta and broly battle was so intense when there collided energy beams there shattered the universe’s reality and was teleported to this unknown dimension which was is referred to as the world of the strange swirling lights, in this dimension there were crashing through several dimensional constructs you can even see this in the movie, these dimensions was said to expressed mathematical formulas and was made in 3D. but here it’s gets crazy these are possibly super dimensions, because it’s implied from mr yuji yokoo mr Kai makino and mr taguya fukangana that there created there constructs in super dimensional images using CG, this would be consistent for them to be super dimensions, as when you translate the dragon ball super broly light novel it’s stated a *super dimensional battle* but from there gets even more crazy when you translate super dimensional it’s say cho Jigen, which means that them constructs broly and gogeta are breaking throw are beyond dimensionality, this not even a hyperbole it’s stated 3 times I can send you the scans if you want

So according to you, how big the dragon ball cosmology is?(without any lowball) Complex multiversal? Hyperversal? Outer?

@johnkenrickchua1811

Жыл бұрын

Higher than that(somewhere between High Outer - Boundless) actually becuase DB cosmology is bigger than any anime hell it even has infinite timelines if you bring DB Heroes statements into account that is

@Father_of_sparky

Жыл бұрын

@@johnkenrickchua1811 No lol not outer

@YT-Kenzei

Жыл бұрын

@@Father_of_sparky i wouldn’t say outer but I would say atleast complex multiversal and a high end low hyperversel what do you think?

@johnkenrickchua1811

Жыл бұрын

@@Father_of_sparky I am reffering to all of the animes/video games that DB has produced combined not just Canon Dragon Ball if its Canon DB then its Hyperversal

@P.Rapozito

Жыл бұрын

High Hyperversal.

Goku vs kratos who would win i thinks it goku because kratos sacles complex mutivesal goku sacles hyperversal in midhigh ball who do you think win

Xeno Goku: Aww! That's so adorable.

Man and people say rimuru and anos solo the verse

@johnkenrickchua1811

Жыл бұрын

thats because they love to downplay DB so much thats why they think those 2 fodders solo DB

@abhrobiswas4956

Жыл бұрын

I am not gonna lie but, Anos can still defeat any character with his sword, but he can be sealed with something like Mafuba or, the technique that Beerus used to seal Old Kai.

@Ag-zk6jw

Жыл бұрын

@@abhrobiswas4956 nlf

@LoP-10

Жыл бұрын

​@@abhrobiswas4956 that debunked months ago

@hungthe-xu4ce

Жыл бұрын

@@abhrobiswas4956 so his sword can beat Superman and Thor lol his sword can't even defeat anyone that was got debunk

“There are only 4 galaxies in db”

@vegetascales1643

Жыл бұрын

Ong 🤓

@randomcitizen7092

Жыл бұрын

"The Afterlife is country sized."

@Ichigothagoat

Жыл бұрын

@@randomcitizen7092 “goku is just planetary”

@randomcitizen7092

Жыл бұрын

@@Ichigothagoat "Not even that. He's never even destroyed a planet. He's City Level."

@mister_meme3608

Жыл бұрын

I've heard worse Like "universes in db are the size of galaxies"

Jus saying the brown space is wat infinite Zamasu would hav to cross in order to reach the past of the timeline goku and everyone's from and also Infinite Zamasu in the manga stated he's going to destroy every parallel world if we take this literal and say he can 1 shot all of it then he would be on par or higher than that dimension Also in the anime Beerus stated Infinite Zamasu was rippling across to other timelines so Infinite Zamasu would hav to scale to it I'm jus saying they can be scaled to it but it's up to u if u wanna take this argument or not

@oritsedomaomeresan

5 ай бұрын

This is so true but the downplayers won’t let you live this down

@bamboteevee

5 ай бұрын

@@oritsedomaomeresan 😐, I don't need to live for subjective purposes, I live for the objective truth of life, They can say whatever they want it's the Internet, if they can't seem to understand a simple thing then it just means they're stupid and lack the intelligence to do so

Fun fact: DBS scale to DBH and DBX, so the cosmology can be MOREEE and MOREEEEEEE BIGGEEER than u think

@vegetascales1643

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but Im keeping it simple for now

@republicoftheunitedstateso8935

Жыл бұрын

@@vegetascales1643 👍Is better because more people can understand that dragon ball can show us

@Shallot.Db72

Жыл бұрын

All series connected means Cosmology is One (Just timelines changed db = Dbz= Dbs = Dbh= sdbh = Af) He showing little bit part for new subs

I feel like if u used your voice it would be better

@vegetascales1643

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but I got no mic 😭

You forgot about Sugoraku dimension.

In summary: The Dragon Ball cosmology has 1 multiverse containing 12 Universes. Correct me if I'm wrong.

@hungthe-xu4ce

Жыл бұрын

12 universes=Intruduce New Characters From Their Universes And State There Are More Universes To Intruduce More New Characters In The Future And State " DB cosmology is way higher Each universe in DB is infinite and each universes contains infinite amount of dimensions, realms , timelines. These realms and dimensions are themselve infinite in size containing more infinite universes. Making DB universe boundless with cosmology.

@Wild_Emperor

Жыл бұрын

@@hungthe-xu4ce That aint boundless. That's only a hyperversal. 1. Each universes containing infinite realms/dimensions is considered a multiverse. 2. So universes in dragon ball are technically multiverses. 3. 12 multiverses in a single "hyperverse". Its hyperversal because it goes like this: universe

@hungthe-xu4ce

Жыл бұрын

@@Wild_Emperor Bro continues to say something completely different, a multiverse is still a multiverse. second we wouldn't OFFICIALLY know about the stronger part, 3rd they stated that there were more universes but out of anger zeno destroyed them you dingus. Get your facts right here n pack your bags

@hungthe-xu4ce

Жыл бұрын

we can debate that. Goku has so many Hyper/outer feats By Multiple State that people who think they are outliers can’t understand that he has more Beyond Hyper feats than solar system, universal, multiversal, feats. Shit… even being capable of destroying one universe in DB is lowballed to Low hyperversal due to pan dimensional universes.

@Wild_Emperor

Жыл бұрын

@@hungthe-xu4ce We aint talkin about feats of characters. We're talking about cosmology. Please dont divert the topic.

Rimuru Fangays🤡🤓 Anos Fangays🤡🤓 Saitama Fangays🤡🤓🤓 and another DB Gaydownplayer🤡🤓 or DB Gayhaters🤡🤓 explain Goku with every forms scailing At Max and limit scailing🤓🤡 and at best he doesn't go beyond scailing🤡🤓

@Animemanist

Жыл бұрын

Ong 🥸😭

So the Dragonball cosmology is from Complex Multiversal and can go up to Hyperversal.... Anyway you forgot the Dimension without timelines where Zeno was....that maybe is Outerversal

@Eesar11

8 ай бұрын

Nope it's actually lowballing he missed few things but a single universe is high outer

@dragneel9910

8 ай бұрын

@@Eesar11 no

@Eesar11

8 ай бұрын

@@dragneel9910 yes

@dragneel9910

8 ай бұрын

@@Eesar11 Nobody in DB scales even close to Low Outer stop with this absurd scaling. 1 Single Universe is only 6D

@Eesar11

8 ай бұрын

@@dragneel9910 then read these . Well then let's get started. In the Dragon World there's a chain of 12 Universes that exist within a Neutral Space. All 12 Universes possess their own Macrocosm and Kaiōshin Realm like Universe 7 or 10. It has been explained by Whis that these Universes form a pair (front & back) and reflect each other respectively: Universe 1 with 12 Universe 2 with 11 Universe 3 with 10 Universe 4 with 9 Universe 5 with 8 Universe 6 with 7 Inside a Universe exist a Macrocosm and Kaiōshin Realm. The Macrocosm is composed of an Afterlife and Living World, the Kaiōshin Realm exist outside of the Macrocosm serving a satellite-like role. Toriyama stated that these universes were designed this way in order to help the readers and himself have a easier understanding/comprehension since the Universe is Infinite. The Living World is the lower half of the Macrocosm and it is divided in 2 halves, The Universe/Outer Space and Demon Realm. The Universe is Infinite in space and is infinitely expansive, its also overseen by the Gods (Kais/Core Person). The Universe is divided into 4 areas/quadrants (North, South, East & West) that are overseen by the Kaios and formerly 4 Kaiōshins (3 of which got killed by Majin Buu, only the East supreme Kai survived) The Four Galaxies are just denominations used by the Gods for their duty, it has been confirmed throughout the franchise that there are Infinite/countless amout of galaxies that exist in each areas that are contained within the Universe. And these Galaxies are composed of innumerable amount of nebulae, and these nebulae are made of innumerable Planets and stars. But let's set things right with the feats that have been misunderstood by a lot of people: Majin Buu destroyed was a galaxy made of countless nebulae. What Broly destroyed while restrained was the Southern area made of Infinite/countless amount of galaxies. What Cell was about to destroy with the Kamehameha that he was launching at Gohan was "the Solar System" a Galactic Nebula made of countless planets and stars and nebulae are galactic size. And just that was the AP/DC of his Kamehameha not his actual full capacity. So just to make it easier to remember here's Dragon Ball Universe (Living World) The Universe > Four Areas/Quadrants forms the Universe > Infinite/Countless Galaxies forms the four quadrants > Innumerable Nebulae forms a Galaxy > Innumerable Planets and Stars forms a Nebula. The Daizenshuu & RPG guidebooks reveal that the DB Universe is a Infinite Space filled with Light and Darkness and a Hyperspace that has an both an observable and non- observable part and that even the Afterlife's Sun is compared to the observable universe and Heaven with the Universe (of Living World) in its entiery. On the other side of the Universe exist the Demon Realm which serves as the Lower half of the Macrocosm. It's a realm where Magic has more influence than Science and that just like its upper counterpart possess its multiple Space area.The Universe & Demon Realm of the Living World are 5D (High-Multiversal+) like Dead zone. The Dead Zone is a Hyperspace/Superspace void created by Garlic Jr. It's an infinite void of Darkness used to seal an individual into a personal hell for the rest of their existence. The Dead Zone exist in the Living World due to the fact that in age 763 Garlic Jr managed to escape the Dead Zone after being powered by the Makyo Star when it was near Earth.The Dead Zone scales from 5D to Infinite dimensional (High-Hyperversal). Next are the subspaces The Subspaces are areas that exist located inbetween dimensions outside of the World (Macrocosm), the concept of Time and Space doesn't exist there and both the Suguroku Space and Hyperbolic Time Chamber have confirmed to be subspaces. The Sugoroku Space is an area between dimensions, Space and Time which no one from the outside world can influence even the Kais despite having authority over the entire macrocosm. In the anime during the Baby Saga Goku fell into the Suguroku Space when he saved by Kibitoshin but Baby's revenge death Ball managed to reach the space by which they were teleportating This Realm is inhabited and overseen by the Caretakers, a group of incredibly powerful beings who control the games that go on in Sugoroku Space. The caretakers had full dominion over this realm unlike the kais, they were able to completely negate/remove the powers of all who enter the realm even the likes of goku via activating their game they could also influence the environment, even creating multiple mouths in the sky to talk through, and could destroy entire parts of Sugoroku Space merely by wishing it to be so. Also the Suguroku Space is implied to be infinite in size due to the caretakers's statements about the punishment for cheaters being eternal wandering between dimensions since it means that the victim will have to aimlessly wander around while encountering an endless amount of alternate dimensions forever without any hope of ever . Part 1

not to downplay or anything, but i look up on google, and i found out, TRANSCENDENTAL is something related to spirit.

@vegetascales1643

Жыл бұрын

It has 2 definitions which is the one you mentioned And transcend Beacuse transcendental comes from the Latin word "Transcendere" which means climb over or beyond

@TheEnlightenedSaiyan

Жыл бұрын

@@vegetascales1643 ahh i see thanks for the info

@TheEnlightenedSaiyan

Жыл бұрын

@@vegetascales1643 also where do you scale Anime Goatku?

@vegetascales1643

Жыл бұрын

@@TheEnlightenedSaiyan if we go by the narrative that Jiren>infinite zamasu Well then Goku who surpasses Jiren is 9D - 11D beacuse 1 timeline in db is 9 to 11th dimensional, even with a heavy low ball the timeline is atleast complex multiversal.

@TheEnlightenedSaiyan

Жыл бұрын

@@vegetascales1643 oh god thats strong, son goku is really powerful, idk why a lot of people think he is only UNI +

I haven't even started the video but still know it will be a dub🗿

@ZayanWentronPG47

Жыл бұрын

🍷🗿

Small Next

@user-jh6ik1qd7p

7 ай бұрын

yep compared to dc its hilariously small.

yea dragon ball overall cosmology is high-complex multiversal with HIGH-END universes can match with DC universes even

@user-jh6ik1qd7p

7 ай бұрын

dc universe would still be bigger. Dragon ball would be a grain of sand and dc would be a large beach ball.

@mohamedexedell7973

7 ай бұрын

@@user-jh6ik1qd7p yea ofc DC is bigger

Goku base is high hyperversal 🗿

@hungthe-xu4ce

Жыл бұрын

Kakumei Goku yes and beyond

@hungthe-xu4ce

Жыл бұрын

yeah DBS Goku is too

@GamerDude-qg9bh

10 ай бұрын

🗿Base Goku is Complex Multiverse Level.

@s4boteurelimpostormasproblemat

10 ай бұрын

@@GamerDude-qg9bh 🗿 No,Goku base is universal+

@michaelwarren875

2 ай бұрын

​@@s4boteurelimpostormasproblemat initial cell level

how is the anime canon?

yo mama still bigger though

@Sakupenny

11 ай бұрын

💀

Where do u scale Goku's speed?

@vegetascales1643

Жыл бұрын

Infinite - immesuarble arguably

@stormblade7959

Жыл бұрын

@@vegetascales1643 Do you argue irrelevant? I don't think Goku can get to immeasurable with feats

@pagalladka9809

Жыл бұрын

@@stormblade7959 he can get immeasurable actually via countering Hit's attacks, He was "forcing his way to the future" as mentioned in (Dbs anime) with sheer speed meaning going beyond linear time, which scales to immeasurable

@stormblade7959

Жыл бұрын

@@pagalladka9809 But then that is also contradicted by the fact that Hit doesn't have true dominance over time and that describes the way Goku had overpowered his time skip which can be countered by being stronger than Hit.

@pagalladka9809

Жыл бұрын

@@stormblade7959 in db strength = speed (as per by vegeta statement in dbz) hit's ability does work on everyone it's just that goku surpassed hit's ability via his sheer speed which is immeasurable kzread.info/dash/bejne/kYd_zsFrdLTVfJc.html Watch this to know better

Means it is outervarsal

@pagalladka9809

Жыл бұрын

U can scale it there via afterlife scan

@ultronsigma2737

Жыл бұрын

No.....for now

We can low ball this even more but that would be even more tedious than your video

The macrosom is 7D bro, complex multiversal

@vegetascales1643

Жыл бұрын

I'm not using koyama beacuse I want to prove that even without koyama it's still 7D lol

@abhrobiswas4956

Жыл бұрын

Koyama meant 7th plane of existence, using koyama its 3 to 4 layer into outer, he is just showing mercy to the downplayers.

@Paul-Henri-Griffith7560

Жыл бұрын

@@abhrobiswas4956 he is factual

Cosmology is low hyper lol

VERY NICE now the hater will come

Tensura fans using VSBW:imma just deny that

@DemonEnderOfficial

11 ай бұрын

You're over here thinking as if the Tensura cosmology is smaller than dragon ball 😂

@KatsukiKakaroto9557

11 ай бұрын

@@DemonEnderOfficial yet tensura don’t even consist of realms which even reaches 6D like Db so obviously tensura fans is gonna ignore this and think tensura takes cosmology

@DemonEnderOfficial

11 ай бұрын

@@KatsukiKakaroto9557 kzread.infoMAQKl5ro9aM?feature=share

@DemonEnderOfficial

11 ай бұрын

@@KatsukiKakaroto9557 💀

@DemonEnderOfficial

11 ай бұрын

@@KatsukiKakaroto9557 so who wins cosmology? 💀

You missed the world of void.

And yet Goku nearly destroyed a universe in base😅. Now Im confident he beats superman

@DemoniakalMk

6 ай бұрын

Superman destroyed a 6D multiversal construct He negs badly

@TheYolo20

24 күн бұрын

@@DemoniakalMkGoku literally nearly destroyed the macrocosm which is 6d in structure in base.

@DemoniakalMk

24 күн бұрын

@TheYolo20 6D is actually an extreme lowball for Superman since the structure was from the Sixth Dimension and the 6th Dimension is merely a name, not a spatial Dimension. The 6th Dimension is actually beyond the concepts of space-time and a universe in DC has infinite spatial dimensions.

@TheYolo20

24 күн бұрын

@@DemoniakalMk yeah that may be very well true and i am not here to argue that goku is stronger but only to clarify the scaling and cosmology.

This is so out dated. Because the cosmology is now proven much MUCH bigger than that.

Not that big. But just regular

Goku >> superman , Thor & 90% anime main character

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 1A 😂😂😂😂

Low multi👍

@Fighter_Z_9000

Ай бұрын

How?? It's Outer by default and if we want to highball it it's High Outer

@mequanico_edits

Ай бұрын

@@Fighter_Z_9000 não estou no Pc Agora, mas pode me explicar como um verso que só tem alguns universos pode ser outer? vou rever o vídeo também.

@Fighter_Z_9000

Ай бұрын

@@mequanico_edits I'll explain. Universe 7 is made out of different Space Times and Dimensions and has an Afterlife which is infinite in size and transcends dimensions where the concept of Space and Time doesn't apply, so what does this mean? That the other 17 Universes are also made out of different Space Times and Dimensions with each having an Afterlife therefore this makes the verse Outer and if we want to highball it we can say it's High Outer.

@mequanico_edits

Ай бұрын

@@Fighter_Z_9000 com o que você falou, faz sentido sim, eu até concordo, no entanto, não acho nada sobre transcender dimensões. poderia me mostrar onde isso é dito e se é canônico? e também você se referiu ao lugar que transcende dimensões como uma dimensão. além disso, estamos falando do anime somente ou tem os jogos também?

@ricardorodrigues9400

2 күн бұрын

@@mequanico_edits Simples, cada universo de DB contém infinitas dimensões, não são somente simples universos 4D.

What I find wrong with your scaling is that u basically contradicted ur own scale, it doesn’t state that spirit and time dimensions are 4D lvl of existence, it isn’t higher dimensional lvl of existence than living universe or realm, it doesn’t view the living universe as lower dimensional universe like the after life does view mortal realm or living realms as lower dimensional realm, spirit and time dimension isn’t like that cuz u literally said YOURSELF that destroying the living universe is low multi which includes the dimensions in it but that means hbtc realms is within the 3D living universe meaning it shares the same space time continuum as the living universe according to yourself “destroying the living universe is low multi cuz it chase other dimensions” which would contradict 4D hbtc mean that they aren’t higher dimensional plane of existence than the living universe

@pagalladka9809

Жыл бұрын

And when did he said room of time and spirit is a higher dimension than the living world? Timestamp?

@vegetascales1643

Жыл бұрын

I never said the room of spirit and time are higher dimensions And they are completely seperated from the living world. Beacuse the doors that lead to it are a means to travel to that dimension which has a different space and different temporal dimension beacuse 1 year there = 1 outside And also the dimensions I'm reffering to is the alternative dimensions it's stated to have by buuhan, not the Sperated rooms of Spirit and time. Hope that clears things up 👍.

gravity falls cosmology is bigger

@yeikelamores6085

5 ай бұрын

No,It is not

@Gravity_Falls-Classified.567

5 ай бұрын

@@yeikelamores6085 yes it is i can get it above boundless

@Gravity_Falls-Classified.567

5 ай бұрын

@@yeikelamores6085 To start off, a dimension in gravity falls (at least classic dipper and Mabel’s dimension), Is a type 3 tegmark multiverse that has an uncountable amount of universes. (Each being infinite in size) and there is also a Hilbert space due to the branching. Evidence: (not mine) Scan:if you could see the fourth dimension,you could see the entirety of human history sprawled out like a river delta.Infinite lives and parallel universes coexisting.”(extra just for fun:”And now we’re about to step out of the river-onto a secret hidden island wedged between the currents of time!”) (it is a uncountable infinite because it branches from each choice,and time exist in unison due to the first thing so time doesn’t have a start or end) (which creates the uncountable infinite) (It is equal to infinite dimensional since there is an absolute infinite number of those time streams in which each time stream is hyperversal-high hyperversal and because the branching creates a Hilbert space.) For evidence Blendin explains that 1 singular choice makes from each universe branches into another universe,and he also explains that there are infinite lives in each universe which means infinite choices are happening at each point of time. Scan: “Our lives flow on a river of time.And every choice we make is like traveling down a new unique branch of that river”(read the 1st scan to get a better understanding) “A type 3 multiverse would be a consequence of the Many-worlds interpretation (MWI) of quantum mechanics,in which quantum events with probabilistic outcomes resolve in all many ways at once,passing into a vast number of Everett branches each considered to be its own universe.” And “if a type 3 multiverse is working with infinite higher dimensions, where each higher dimension transcends infinitely uncountably one another,one should not compare any higher dimensions,as each of them are infinitely countless above each other,so it will never end, as it will infinitely countlessly piling upwards for all eternity,forming the infinite higher dimensions that exist in the type 3 multiverse.” Quantum phase theory is talked about by ford in the page of 5th dimensional calculus(In the journal), Scan:Why did I stop taking Hyper-Advanced engineering and 5th dimensional calculus after only 3 semesters? For what? To “treat myself” to that second semester of applied Quantum-phase theory? Bill had stated himself to exist in a state of quantum uncertainty Scan: “I EXIST IN A STATE OF QUANTUM UNCERTAINTY! THAT MEANS THAT EVERYTHING I AM, I'M ALSO NOT! IT ALSO MEANS THAT YOUR CAT IS DEAD! BLAME SCHRODINGER! HE'S A LOUSY PET SITTER!” Other than that, there is also evidence that proves there is a type 4 multiverse related to principles and physics, (not mathematics) By using the scan:a few years back, he had been leading a portal expedition to a particularly dangerous dimension when one of the police officers ran into his Parallel self. As soon as they touched hands,the entire dimension began to warp and fizz static.Fiddleford and the rest of his team escaped back to their own dimension,but that officer was never heard from again.in fact,that whole dimension ceased to exist. And comparing that scan to this scan:A residential neighborhood in the 2D world as seen from above (“Above” being a direction that they know nothing about and does not exist) This drawing approximates how my 3D body interacted with Their 2D universe.Looking at this picture,you might think me a god in their world-but not so much. The first scan doesn’t give a brief idea on what how the dimension worked,only what happened and what is to be found out about it (relating to principles)while the second scan explains how that dimension works and what happened (relating to laws) This can be a clear difference between the terms “principles” and “laws” as their differences are that “Laws are general rules and ideas that adhere to the nature of the universe while principles describe specific phenomena that require clarity and explanation” The laws heavily relate to the second scan while the principles relate to the first scan as like I said the first scan doesn’t give info on how the dimension worked only what happened and more to solve while the second scans gave info on how it works and what happened These two scans give a good idea on the difference between principles and laws which implies that there are separate universes in the gravity falls multiverse that have different principles of physics and universes that have different laws of physics Now let’s get to the real connection : Type IV multiverse “A Type IV multiverse abstracts even further from the above, positing that alternate spaces with different general principles of physics and mathematics exist independently of ours” And as I explained the difference between the two separate universes one has different principles of physics while the other has different laws of physics but the type IV multiverse explanation connects to the fact there are separate places with different principles of physics existing independently from the original gravity falls dimension Which would mean type IV multiverse exist in gravity falls giving the brief explanation on the difference between principles and laws and the connections and the dimension with different principles of physics rather than laws And type IV multiverse should be high outer-boundless (I’m pretty sure) Above that, there is the 5 spatial dimensions of the multiverse. This can prove that the cosmology gets layers into boundless due to the fact that timestreams and deltas are physical, and are a structure within every dimension that there is conceptual transcendence over each spatial dimension. (This alone scales immeasurable layers into so called “boundless”) (ALTHOUGH, the first spatial dimension is already beyond vsbw Tiering. So called “boundless” is a fancy term for the layers and tiers between high outer and extraversal. (Either that or instead of boundless it’s extraversal which is most likely false, but it should be noted that the 5th spatial dimension is way beyond high outer) After that, there is the nightmare realm which also follows MWI but at a higher level since it’s above the multiverses, so there is an uncountable infinite amount of nightmare realms. So it conceptually transcends the multiverse and each nightmare realm contains more than one multiverse due to Alex’s statement on Twitter. Bill Cipher transcends the entire cosmology and everything I just mentioned.

@Gravity_Falls-Classified.567

5 ай бұрын

here is the scaling

@yeikelamores6085

5 ай бұрын

@@Gravity_Falls-Classified.567 I don't see anything, you also have to remember that the entire video is a massive lowball, it can go MUCH HIGHER,