How BASS Works (In Rooms) - Acoustic Geometry

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This video shows what happens to bass - low-frequencies below 200 Hz - in rooms like recording studios, home theaters, and stereo rooms. A six-foot acrylic tube, a few action figures, funhouse glasses, and a tennis ball help simplify the otherwise complicated physics involved in how room dimensions interfere with the sound you hear.
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  • @locust108
    @locust1082 жыл бұрын

    I like how I learned something and was sold an ad at the same time.

  • @dimitriward1449

    @dimitriward1449

    2 жыл бұрын

    😂

  • @ianhosier4042

    @ianhosier4042

    2 жыл бұрын

    I had a stupid cadburys ad - if their chocolate wasn't so bloody expensive I would buy it

  • @Stan_the_Belgian

    @Stan_the_Belgian

    2 жыл бұрын

    😂😂😂

  • @caiomeirinho6383

    @caiomeirinho6383

    8 күн бұрын

    YOU STINK

  • @VictoryAviation
    @VictoryAviation3 жыл бұрын

    This demo knocks it out of the park explaining the acoustic anomalies associated with smaller rooms. Thanks so much for putting this together.

  • @BenBrossMusic
    @BenBrossMusicАй бұрын

    As a musician who has significant hearing loss, listening to KZread videos through earbuds for the last three hours, I'm struck by how clear and beautiful the sound of this video is compared to all the other videos I've watched today. Good to know there are people who understand and care about sound.

  • @mrileeks
    @mrileeks3 жыл бұрын

    The use of props in this and every other video has been astounding. Props to you sir!

  • @johncalder8490

    @johncalder8490

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ha! Nicely played!

  • @naKuhito

    @naKuhito

    3 жыл бұрын

    I see what you did there

  • @nicholashenry4133

    @nicholashenry4133

    2 жыл бұрын

    Like the irony👌

  • @YellowWalkman

    @YellowWalkman

    2 жыл бұрын

    Prop squared!

  • @brianabbinanti7021
    @brianabbinanti70213 жыл бұрын

    Clear, concise, and easy to watch. Love it!

  • @caseym6272
    @caseym62722 жыл бұрын

    Found your videos recently and I gotta say, I appreciate every single one of them. It's so cool and informative!

  • @musergio1
    @musergio13 жыл бұрын

    Keep making these videos! This channel and the people behind it are amazing

  • @Acousticgeometry

    @Acousticgeometry

    3 жыл бұрын

    We appreciate the kind words!

  • @Whitefox-pc7lp
    @Whitefox-pc7lp3 жыл бұрын

    I'm constantly researching sound related information and so I'm glad that I found this channel!

  • @lebohang8405
    @lebohang84052 жыл бұрын

    Thanks a million John, I saw one of your videos about speaker isolation a couple of days ago and I decided to test it. Went and bought rubber cushions for my mains and sub woofer. The difference is night and day. Magic 👌🏾👌🏾

  • @sebastianlopeziii
    @sebastianlopeziii3 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely brilliant!! John - thank you so much for your unrivaled advancement of acoustic education on KZread. Bravo!

  • @johncalder8490

    @johncalder8490

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @duythai5442
    @duythai54423 жыл бұрын

    Some of the very best demonstrations! Awesome work!

  • @Acousticgeometry

    @Acousticgeometry

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the support!

  • @StupidEarthlings

    @StupidEarthlings

    2 жыл бұрын

    I wouldn't really call this video "demonstrations" as much as pictures and graphs.

  • @auxilix
    @auxilix2 жыл бұрын

    You described so many concepts so quickly and well thank you.

  • @SideGateStudios
    @SideGateStudios3 жыл бұрын

    Love love love this video, well put.

  • @YellowWalkman
    @YellowWalkman2 жыл бұрын

    This video is actually phenomenal. I learned so much knowledge!

  • @steveg219
    @steveg2192 жыл бұрын

    Nice job on creating a brief explanation of a complex subject

  • @Pippo.Langstrumpf
    @Pippo.Langstrumpf3 жыл бұрын

    Great description. Thanks

  • @VenVile
    @VenVile3 жыл бұрын

    This is brilliant and beautiful. Thank you!

  • @DrSamE
    @DrSamE2 жыл бұрын

    Wow. A video that was actually good info! Props also to testing at NWAA labs, Ron is a valuable source of knowledge!

  • @johanvanhuyssteen9217
    @johanvanhuyssteen921726 күн бұрын

    Awesome video. Thanks for sharing.

  • @Aks-jc3bq
    @Aks-jc3bq2 жыл бұрын

    Best Video I Ever seen on YT . Very well Explained Thanku So Much .

  • @MusicLiberator
    @MusicLiberator3 жыл бұрын

    yoooooooo this is actually insightful. nice work!!!

  • @Maynard0504
    @Maynard05042 жыл бұрын

    I finally understand "bass precision". Great channel!

  • @roitadmor
    @roitadmor3 жыл бұрын

    The way you teach is very unique

  • @oldmal60
    @oldmal602 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. I learned something here can use. Plus your product looks good for my very small need.

  • @drnandakumarakvelu1581
    @drnandakumarakvelu15812 жыл бұрын

    Real Sounding Video.from massive Efforts..Thank you

  • @chawlamohali
    @chawlamohali3 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful!

  • @warpacademy
    @warpacademy10 ай бұрын

    Nice video production. I really liked the visual examples and education on how bass works in rooms. You've said that porous absorption is not effective under 200 Hz though, and that's just untrue. If that was true, and the only thing that worked were pressure-based treatments, then you'd never see professional studio builders filling their rooms with rock wool and fiberglass at depths up to several meters. Those treatments absolutely work, way down to 30 Hz, when you build them with correct depth and density. I can support that statement with a real world experience and acoustic testing data. It's definitely correct that as particle velocity decreases the effectiveness of porous treatments declines, that's why airgaps are used. Even without airgaps, fiberglass can damp room modes down very low in the LF. In my control room we have a front-back axial room mode of 35 Hz that we treated with 1 m of fiberglass and slats. The low end is completely controlled. And of course pressure treatments have their place and use. But it's off base to claim that under the Schroeder frequency you cannot use porous absorption. People like myself are doing it with excellent effectiveness.

  • @GunnyPhillips
    @GunnyPhillips2 жыл бұрын

    A complex topic for sure but this helped me greatly. Thanks!

  • @krsticmilosh
    @krsticmilosh2 жыл бұрын

    Thank You this is fantastic video both as knowledge and study.

  • @jasonvotaw5966
    @jasonvotaw59662 жыл бұрын

    Love the action man props!

  • @euphoriamusic9802
    @euphoriamusic98023 жыл бұрын

    very informative , thank you

  • @babloovyas1080
    @babloovyas10802 жыл бұрын

    Thanks to you for explaining all these facts.

  • @nkemebenezer
    @nkemebenezer2 жыл бұрын

    This video is very helpful. I have learned so much. Thank u lots and God bless you Sir

  • @omegahyperes96
    @omegahyperes962 жыл бұрын

    For the love of awesome sound, thank you!

  • @norvillerodgersspeaks
    @norvillerodgersspeaks2 жыл бұрын

    brilliant video.

  • @unclejamesx9808
    @unclejamesx9808 Жыл бұрын

    Wow thats some informative stuff. Thanks

  • @neolyth
    @neolyth2 жыл бұрын

    Love this video, thank you

  • @anunakigaviria1105
    @anunakigaviria11052 жыл бұрын

    YOU ARE THE BEST, THANKS FROM COLOMBIA.

  • @freereacher
    @freereacher2 жыл бұрын

    Excellent!

  • @artvandelay4914
    @artvandelay49142 жыл бұрын

    awesome video

  • @kingdavidakinyemi
    @kingdavidakinyemi3 жыл бұрын

    I love this so much!

  • @michaelyolch79
    @michaelyolch793 ай бұрын

    Holy smokes! An engineer with a sense of humor. Very rare! :)

  • @pingfunk
    @pingfunk3 жыл бұрын

    Graham Hancock is schooling us on audio now too

  • @SoundUnitedTraining
    @SoundUnitedTraining3 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Very informative and easy to understand.

  • @keepitup3545
    @keepitup35452 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much to be with us ❤️💖

  • @tungbif
    @tungbif Жыл бұрын

    Great videos! Informative and made easy to understand. I'd love to see a video about the acoustics in a round room. I have a such room with a sound system and I'm having a hard time to understand how to manage the acoustics. It seems like the sound bounces in an almost chaotic way to different directions.

  • @KingOath

    @KingOath

    Жыл бұрын

    It still works in a similar way to a rectangular room at low frequencies, except for the length and width are identical every which way, meaning there is one very strong horizontal room mode right in the centre rather than many weaker ones.

  • @ChrisClark_808
    @ChrisClark_8082 жыл бұрын

    I just go sit in the corner and wish the whole room was that loud. 😂

  • @PerpetuusTenebris

    @PerpetuusTenebris

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same! (Fun fact, by the way, if you put a sub in and facing a corner with an obstruction (like cabinets) a few feet above it, the output is greatly increased throughout the room with fewer noticeable modes. It's the same with putting it under a desk or something like that. The modes even out to give more accurate output. Why do I know this? Testing! How does it work? Reverb I guess. I don't know.)

  • @thomasriis1987
    @thomasriis1987 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Graham!

  • @mr.wolfbeats3883
    @mr.wolfbeats38832 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing! You're awesome

  • @joshcrowe9105
    @joshcrowe91052 жыл бұрын

    Awesome content! By chance could you do a video on a round room? Or a Yurt Shape? I am helping a friend build a Yurt recording Studio and struggling to find much information on the general acoustic response of the rooms. Thanks for any help and the great knowledge you've put out! Cheers!

  • @johncalder9188

    @johncalder9188

    Жыл бұрын

    Round is the second worst geometry for a sound room after sphere. It hugely magnifies one or two frequencies beyond repair. I'd advise against it. Thanks, John Calder

  • @CoreZeroStudios
    @CoreZeroStudios Жыл бұрын

    This is a great video I sent it to my audio engineers! One of them asked what happens with bass in headphones or earbuds. I know this is not the area that you specialize in but can you think of any place that would cover this topic? Obviously aside from KZread. Thanks!

  • @mortaldread9379
    @mortaldread93792 жыл бұрын

    Awesome - I'm sold :D

  • @drsumantamajumdar2771
    @drsumantamajumdar27712 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant !!.. Thank you Sir !

  • @victorygah
    @victorygah3 жыл бұрын

    So cool! Thanks. Where I can learn about this?

  • @cptbamboo2217
    @cptbamboo22173 жыл бұрын

    Studying audio engineering and this chanel is pure gold

  • @murphyalvin1893

    @murphyalvin1893

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hey man, these are also extremely useful resources for studying the science of sound and recording if you're interested. kzread.infovideos kzread.info/dron/N5UUY5P4IO1nCuQSfo-Uug.html kzread.info/dron/SCwzZX29jTILlsP4MhjQvg.html

  • @cptbamboo2217

    @cptbamboo2217

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@murphyalvin1893 thanks bud!

  • @robduff
    @robduff2 жыл бұрын

    Given all this information. What would be the ideal dimensions for a home recording studio?

  • @PotatoflakeJake
    @PotatoflakeJake2 жыл бұрын

    GOD YESS CANT WAIT TO WATCH EVERY FKING VIDEO YOU HAVE THANK YOUUUU

  • @justinbeck8459
    @justinbeck84593 жыл бұрын

    This was great

  • @arjunxchauhan
    @arjunxchauhan3 жыл бұрын

    Nice done lads

  • @paulsarodh5460
    @paulsarodh5460 Жыл бұрын

    Superb

  • @not_who_you_think
    @not_who_you_think3 жыл бұрын

    great stuff yo!

  • @kian3548
    @kian35482 жыл бұрын

    I love how when he says 'bass' I imagine the word having an extreme bass boost to it.

  • @InsaneCarville
    @InsaneCarville3 жыл бұрын

    Why wasn't this uploaded when I was treating my room for university studies over 2 months ago hahaha. Thank you though, informative as always.

  • @santoshgujar5237
    @santoshgujar52372 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Sir

  • @Sykologist_Music
    @Sykologist_Music3 жыл бұрын

    Nice infomercial! I’ll consider buying two of those if I can afford em.

  • @ydlp7705
    @ydlp77052 жыл бұрын

    Yeah science experiment with imperial system.. Gotta love laws of physics!

  • @jeremyuzan1169
    @jeremyuzan11693 жыл бұрын

    Awesome

  • @andyh8239
    @andyh8239 Жыл бұрын

    Absorbing the room effects... Does that also increase the sound pressures in certain areas that were otherwise cancelledbout by a room effect? I.e. Lower spl at resonance, and higher spl at a null?

  • @MarcoAGJ
    @MarcoAGJ2 жыл бұрын

    Nice.

  • @audfrknaveen2256
    @audfrknaveen22562 жыл бұрын

    Hi ....is the soft copy/digital copy of the book MODERN ROOM ACOUSTICS is available yet ??

  • @keepitup3545
    @keepitup35452 жыл бұрын

    Love you sir ❤️❤️

  • @sstefanos00
    @sstefanos002 жыл бұрын

    Exceptional video! But what have "I" learned??? That I am not going to be able to sound treat my living room unless I buy expensive accoustic panels that must be placed by expensive specialists who know what they are doing....Oh well...

  • @johngarbutt

    @johngarbutt

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree. Interesting video but no help whatsoever with setting up my hi fi system and in particular my sub woofers. well its back to good old trial and error for set up.

  • @jasonLJ

    @jasonLJ

    2 жыл бұрын

    ​@@johngarbutt just buy reputable bass traps, the more the better basically

  • @krismichalsky

    @krismichalsky

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@johngarbutt I agree guys, there is some nice knowledge in here, but as for me and my setup, this doesn't really do much for me other than to play around with my own testing of acoustical materials and where place them in the room and then for the hours of listening tests as in A to B and back to A....

  • @TroyTurnerHifi

    @TroyTurnerHifi

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think this video is marketing targeted to the very specialists you mention.

  • @chrisw5742

    @chrisw5742

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jasonLJ bassically

  • @adamskatharakis653
    @adamskatharakis6532 жыл бұрын

    Good selling skills-- I'm totally ready to buy me a nice set of bass traps, even though I only use headphones. ;-)

  • @Frietpan
    @Frietpan5 ай бұрын

    when i look at the room correction results on my avr i can see there is a huge dip in response at around 80hz from a bunch of channels that dip also did not get corrected by the room correction. is that a room mode problem or a null as the video talked about?

  • @blancasusanamariles4655
    @blancasusanamariles46553 жыл бұрын

    2021: Acoustic Engineer consultant Designed my music room w/grand pianos(2) 25x35'. It is not s rectangle but has built up corner absorbers; w/Glass Blocks to absorb 50% Street bus noises. Sound travels 100'/sec

  • @onlyKobo
    @onlyKobo7 ай бұрын

    That tube is so cool

  • @CobraChamp
    @CobraChamp5 ай бұрын

    Do your bass absorbers absorb evenly at all low frequencies or do the target the resonance frequency of the room?

  • @kloss213
    @kloss2132 жыл бұрын

    You can use multiple bass systems distributed around the room this allows a more even frequency response.

  • @snapascrew
    @snapascrew2 жыл бұрын

    Kinda want to take my homemade tube traps to that lab and have a full test day hahaha

  • @christianocean8998
    @christianocean89982 жыл бұрын

    Amazing !!! The bass is always a problem in the room ... Which is the best bass trap to use in a small 17-18 m2 room ? Thank you

  • @johncalder8490

    @johncalder8490

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Christian, thanks for your question! The room modes present in your room would depend on the room's dimensions - how many meters wide by length by height. Divide each dimension by 331.5 (speed of sound at 21 degrees C.) to give you the approximate modal frequencies for each axis (width, length, height). These "Axial Modes" are where your strongest mode additions and cancellations, depending on location in the room, will occur. We prefer to treat low-frequency (LF) modes with broadband absorption (we also prefer not to use the term "bass trap", as it has been widely misused). The combination of our two membrane LF absorbers work from about 45Hz to above 250Hz, fairly efficiently - the ratio of Curve Diffusor (each of which have a built-in LF absorption MLV membrane) and the CornerSorber (a dedicated LF corner membrane absorber) is about 3-4 Curves for each CornerSorber pair. When properly placed at 1/4-wavelength (room dimension) locations along each wall, Curves work very well to diminish modal energy. The CornerSorbers are placed in any room corner. I hope this helps! Thanks again!

  • @Akshaibiloniya
    @Akshaibiloniya3 жыл бұрын

    This video is like a bass poetry. ❤️

  • @fuuuuuuuguuuuuuu
    @fuuuuuuuguuuuuuu2 жыл бұрын

    And here I was, still subscribed to acoustic fields lol

  • @awookieandagerman
    @awookieandagerman3 жыл бұрын

    Cool video! I wonder if you can talk about some design solutions to these bass problems. Like, what would be the ideally dimensioned room for accurate bass? Or what about a room with no parallel walls? Would that make it easier to achieve accurate bass? Could the walls be fitted with textured shapes that disperse sound, or would it be better to just have them angled away from each other, or maybe both?

  • @ericfranke1637

    @ericfranke1637

    3 жыл бұрын

    To answer that, you have to know ahead of time where the speakers and subs will be placed before the room dimensions can be optimized. See Floyd Toole.

  • @johncalder8490

    @johncalder8490

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your questions! Designing a room without parallel walls and non-parallel floor-ceiling geometry is a great partial solution, and many recording studios and high-end listening rooms do just that. But volume-based low frequency resonances (the same effect as blowing across the top of an empty bottle) will continue to be a problem. Also, due to room crossover, there are no diffusion treatments that will diffuse wavelengths longer than the room dimensions. The best solution to room modes and bass resonances will include combining effective low frequency absorbers with optimal room geometry design (as well as optimizing speaker placements).

  • @awookieandagerman

    @awookieandagerman

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@johncalder8490 Thanks for the answer. Is there a program you use to determine optimal speaker placement and absorber placement in a given room? Also does room crossover cease to be a problem if your room is large enough to contain any anticipated bass wavelengths?

  • @timmypena241
    @timmypena2413 жыл бұрын

    You’re an internet hero.

  • @lilgigi8221
    @lilgigi82213 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sauce, Sir

  • @joecaljapan
    @joecaljapan2 жыл бұрын

    NWAA Labs gave me a chuckle

  • @jcisme
    @jcisme2 жыл бұрын

    So these are a broadband membrane absorber ? I thought membrane absorbers only worked in a very narrow band and need to be build to for the room after extensive testing ?

  • @christiantorma2440
    @christiantorma24402 жыл бұрын

    sehr sehr geiles Video 😎🤘😎🤘😎🤘

  • @marcaoliver2965
    @marcaoliver29652 жыл бұрын

    Just curious, how does different densities of walls affect the sound, like is are hardwood walls and floors perhaps better than concrete floors and sound dampened drywall, like is there like a preference or just whatever is easiest to control in general is the goal

  • @johncalder8490

    @johncalder8490

    2 жыл бұрын

    Good question! There are differing views, of course. To control low frequencies in rooms, some people hold that the most-dense wall structures are best, some believe semi-resonant drywall structures are best. My own preference is for solid non-resonant walls because it is very difficult to predict how a drywall or other non-dense structure will behave after installation. The stud centers, number of screws and their tightness, whether multiple layers are used (and if Green Glue or similar is used), and other construction variables seem to argue in favor of solid, dense, and isolated walls, ceilings, and floors. Then accurately-tested and effective low-frequency absorbers should be used to mitigate room modes. IMHO. Thanks for asking!

  • @antesmeridano
    @antesmeridano2 жыл бұрын

    fantanstic music science

  • @TriPham-xd9wk
    @TriPham-xd9wk2 жыл бұрын

    Would sound high intensity create tsunami too? Possible and by superposition freeway and drainage design accurately could be able to generate tsunami from freeway traffic

  • @manhuawang11
    @manhuawang112 жыл бұрын

    Figuring out bass at NWA labs? I'm down with that. Can they measure out my six-fo?

  • @johncalder8490

    @johncalder8490

    2 жыл бұрын

    While NWA did have some awesome bass, NWAA Labs in Elma, Washington is the best place to test bass absorbers and other acoustical products. 'Prolly can't do the six-fo tho. Maybe could measure the car's engine sound...

  • @williamchen454
    @williamchen4543 жыл бұрын

    What problem does the room crossover cause in practical terms? Longer decay times? Problems with amplitude?

  • @johncalder8490

    @johncalder8490

    3 жыл бұрын

    Below room crossover, using fiber-based absorbers is far less effective for absorbing low frequencies than using membrane LF absorbers. The room mode resonances which are responsible for room crossover cause much longer decay times at and around the modal frequencies, which also results in widely varying low frequency amplitudes at modal frequencies at different dimension-based locations around the room.

  • @Borderlands808
    @Borderlands8082 жыл бұрын

    Anyone know what happened to “directional sound”? As in only people in front of a speaker can hear what’s coming out of it.

  • @MykTAOfficial
    @MykTAOfficial2 жыл бұрын

    That why i love my concrete room as it makes a small bluetooth speaker into a large sounding subwoofer

  • @ahmedzengy
    @ahmedzengy Жыл бұрын

    How can i calculate L shape room mode?

  • @blackskyDK
    @blackskyDK3 жыл бұрын

    I can explain: Bass make things go brrrrrrrrrr

  • @nicolasnaumceski9209
    @nicolasnaumceski92093 жыл бұрын

    top !

  • @undercrownhiphop9422
    @undercrownhiphop9422 Жыл бұрын

    aren’t membrane traps more targeted for a narrow freq range?

  • @22strong4you
    @22strong4you2 жыл бұрын

    Please use the metric system. Thanks

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