How BAD Is Torture Mastery Actually? - Dark and Darker

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Torture Mastery was nerfed and spell costs are now tripled when using the perk which means you will die a lot more, hope you guys enjoy
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  • @Euthafro
    @Euthafro17 күн бұрын

    Video liked for teaching the first guy kris dagger is on top

  • @atwxll
    @atwxll18 күн бұрын

    Love that the video is longer than normal 👍

  • @fade9004
    @fade900418 күн бұрын

    respect for adding the death clip. all the other d & d content creators just never die I guess!🙄

  • @xenird

    @xenird

    17 күн бұрын

    "all the other"

  • @Michael-ue9us

    @Michael-ue9us

    17 күн бұрын

    @@xenird ""xenird""

  • @xenird

    @xenird

    17 күн бұрын

    @@Michael-ue9us what's the point of your comment

  • @deathbysausage

    @deathbysausage

    17 күн бұрын

    Bro I am 99% convinced that NO ONE else dies when fighting me lol

  • @user-up8ek2pm9l
    @user-up8ek2pm9l17 күн бұрын

    Great Vid! love it. Tried your build fre days avo and it was very fun🎉

  • @DoodleCone
    @DoodleCone18 күн бұрын

    guy at the end running the pumpkin kit

  • @ww2w235
    @ww2w23518 күн бұрын

    Subbed and love your vids

  • @lemonoeye
    @lemonoeye18 күн бұрын

    I feel this video so much. Any tips from someone warlock main since f2p release switching to cleric?

  • @thecrab10
    @thecrab1018 күн бұрын

    11:30 that exact situation happened to me yesterday and i got dumpstered on lmao

  • @skoomatroll
    @skoomatroll17 күн бұрын

    is it better to give your enemy +str just for the 3dps i dont play well so idk

  • @AzanexPL
    @AzanexPL18 күн бұрын

    Love ur vids, hope to see more wiz

  • @WeirdUncleWizard-tw3vo
    @WeirdUncleWizard-tw3vo17 күн бұрын

    Hey Foxman, I'm the bonk wizard you fought a day or so ago. Wearing a similar kit to this one. Was a great fight. Cheers :) (Gonna put it in a video soon)

  • @futairimasu
    @futairimasuКүн бұрын

    "He d1ed!!! He F***ng D1ed!!!"

  • @jesseholloway7714
    @jesseholloway771418 күн бұрын

    I haven't beem playing because of rogue. Its like im doing really good at crime then i see batman running at me from a dark ally way with a stilleto.

  • @xenird

    @xenird

    17 күн бұрын

    Yeah it's stupid how a PvE dnd class is added to a PvP game

  • @Pabs._

    @Pabs._

    17 күн бұрын

    @@xenird they just need to delete the stealth mechanic, Idk how a guy can be sitting in an elevator for 11 minutes just cause there is loot involved tbh cause noone would be playing rogue if this game didnt have it. It takes the loot goblin that everyone has inside them out and its cringe, Im really sorry that it had to be Red, I actually like his wizz vids a lot xd

  • @feeshifeeshi
    @feeshifeeshi17 күн бұрын

    Great video! Would have liked to see what the gear sold for.

  • @srek6669
    @srek666918 күн бұрын

    another foxgoat banger, keep it up brah

  • @FoxmanSlays

    @FoxmanSlays

    18 күн бұрын

    Thanks homie

  • @Mobay18
    @Mobay1817 күн бұрын

    What was the reason for the dagger again?

  • @Nuked_tm
    @Nuked_tm18 күн бұрын

    I think cyclops it’s 20x easier, especially as warlock if you ever get low during rock fall you just get 2 dots up and phantomize. The rest is literally just hold right and hellfire lol super easy. Gl and good vid btw

  • @Miralian1

    @Miralian1

    16 күн бұрын

    I think cave troll is easier as warlock and cyclops is easier as all other classes. you just kill the troll so fast with hellfires

  • @LoLgamer124
    @LoLgamer12418 күн бұрын

    Foxman, love you man, respect for the content! Keep being real G ❤️

  • @FoxmanSlays

    @FoxmanSlays

    18 күн бұрын

    Thanks homie I appreciate it fr

  • @vannelah4147
    @vannelah414717 күн бұрын

    Good video bro, idk if going for power of sacrifice on a rogue is even worth because it gives them so much extra damage

  • @bigadvicec1018
    @bigadvicec101817 күн бұрын

    im practically brand new to dark n darker, why do you shoot curse of pain at the 3 hydra?

  • @FoxmanSlays

    @FoxmanSlays

    17 күн бұрын

    You can heal off of the Hydra if you curse of pain it

  • @user-ww7cq6kd5r
    @user-ww7cq6kd5r17 күн бұрын

    hi Foxman!! is curse mastery better than Malice since i don't have enough knowledge to use hydra when i run my casting build....any thoughts? by the way will curse mastery reduce the damage and extend the duration time? or it's just more damage in total .

  • @Mreggey2

    @Mreggey2

    17 күн бұрын

    Curse Mastery only extends the duration not the damage. So it still does the same amount of damage just the ticks do less over longer equaling out to the same total amount of damage. IMO run Dark Reflection if solo as free damage in melee is way more impactful than any other option.

  • @FoxmanSlays

    @FoxmanSlays

    16 күн бұрын

    Curse Mastery makes power of sacrifice deal more damage, but for curse of pain it is the same damage just spread over a longer duration, the other nice thing about curse mastery is you get more healing from the extra ticks, but malice and dark reflection are also both good

  • @user-ww7cq6kd5r

    @user-ww7cq6kd5r

    16 күн бұрын

    Thx a lot!!!!❤

  • @SuperRoxasXIII13
    @SuperRoxasXIII1318 күн бұрын

    hi im a noob that only plays squire gear, i was wondering if you could do some videos with below 25 gear score? but i guess most ppl wouldnt be interested in that. also what would you say is the best class with only basic gear?

  • @johnard8831

    @johnard8831

    18 күн бұрын

    Lock is not good as a heal lock at base gear. It's doable but hydra is a no go for it. Your heals are relying on pve. It's better to get a hybrid with spells to help heal and then blow for damage.

  • @AzanexPL

    @AzanexPL

    18 күн бұрын

    If you finish some quests and grab occultist boots, oracle robe, leather chausses and rawhide gloves (I think you can skip one of these, preferrably gloves for mystic gloves) then you can run hellfire, curse of pain, power of sacrifice and flame walker on base kit. That's what I use to farm bosses and defend myself. As for best base kit class it's probably barbarian(?)

  • @ozylocz4078

    @ozylocz4078

    18 күн бұрын

    Best class base kit probably a fighter imo. You can take the perk so you can bring a bow/crossbow and use whatever main you prefer. You can also wear most things so you can go all plate or all cloth armor once you’ve done some quests. 2nd wind and sprint are really good when classes don’t have as much burst or speed. You won’t really be the best at anything though, if you can really land your shots longbow ranger might be better but spacing is gonna be really important with no gear. If you really like the brawl and can bonk heads barbarian is really good and straightforward low gear.

  • @kostadinbodurov7430

    @kostadinbodurov7430

    14 күн бұрын

    Denon warlock is much stronger than caster warlock with base gear

  • @SaltyHoldy
    @SaltyHoldy18 күн бұрын

    how do you change spells so fast?

  • @tyerocks63
    @tyerocks6318 күн бұрын

    Don't forget the demon clad leggings I have a 19mag healing warlock kit built around strength

  • @Strawberrcherry
    @Strawberrcherry10 күн бұрын

    dead was so dramatic at the end :D

  • @ww2w235
    @ww2w23518 күн бұрын

    Also, is TM + MH better if you're kitted? Would the life drain build better for

  • @shazampowers9909

    @shazampowers9909

    13 күн бұрын

    I just dont know what you're life draining at

  • @ohgodkana
    @ohgodkana17 күн бұрын

    Great video as usual, I still rock TM even after nerfs it seem fine to me. The only thing that don’t suit me in warlock is life drain, I’d rather go with classic CoP, sacrifice, hydras and bolt especially for PvP

  • @uKinust
    @uKinust18 күн бұрын

    long style videos are goated

  • @wondly7236
    @wondly723617 күн бұрын

    I did not know about the nerfs and just died to casting a hydra on my best kit

  • @stanlyEM
    @stanlyEM17 күн бұрын

    so still worth it in the long run? playing warlock this wipe and i was having a great time.

  • @goten3965
    @goten396515 күн бұрын

    real ones know how goated foxmanslays is

  • @PukkaKeef
    @PukkaKeef14 күн бұрын

    That rogue at the end is shameless lol, 11 minutes?

  • @JGYsoFly
    @JGYsoFly18 күн бұрын

    Cave troll may be seen as harder because he has the potential to one shot you, whereas cyclops doesn't do as much burst damage/has only 1 insta kill move. My issue with cyclops is when hes smashing the ground making rocks fall, took a while to learn the timing on the jumps but once you get it down cyclops is easy.

  • @MrAviack
    @MrAviack17 күн бұрын

    regarding cyclops - i just recently (a few days ago) managed to learn how to do both bosses in GC (normal for now) as a warlock with hellfire. Cyclops is definitely easier except for one thing - the fucking rockfall phase. It still sometimes randomly kills me. But other than that, its much easier to not get hit on cyclops (especially sinse you don't need to go into melee), and even if you do you don't die and can heal up

  • @Type1Virus
    @Type1Virus18 күн бұрын

    I’m somewhat newer but I try to run both bosses when I do the caves. Idk if it’s just me but cyclops is easier on warlock just because 95% of the time you’re going to take some damage on the rockfall phase and you don’t have to worry about losing DPS like other classes having to health pot and stuff so you can do it quicker and more efficiently. Also on HR you get a get out of jail free card with ur phantomize if you get eye-beamed. Cavetroll is def the way to go if you’re just doing one boss though because if pelt and stuff

  • @FoxmanSlays

    @FoxmanSlays

    18 күн бұрын

    Yea plus if you do both then you have an escape route if you want to hit pile and you’re not just trapped

  • @Type1Virus

    @Type1Virus

    18 күн бұрын

    @@FoxmanSlays right, most times I don’t even attempt pile solo, only time I hit pile is if I got a duo or trio. I just try to get the gold in the middle. Highroller seems to give like double the gold mining versus what normals does as well unless I’m smokin somethin. Most I get out of normals gold is like 12 if you’re lucky

  • @AzanexPL

    @AzanexPL

    18 күн бұрын

    @@Type1Virus Normal ores drop 2-3, highroller 5-6 I think

  • @BrutalAwesomeMusic
    @BrutalAwesomeMusic17 күн бұрын

    Does Curse of Pain stack ? I see him apply it 2 times ?

  • @vietsmiley

    @vietsmiley

    17 күн бұрын

    It does not, however he does it to do the instance damage, pretty sure anyways. Or it could be to restack in general

  • @BrutalAwesomeMusic

    @BrutalAwesomeMusic

    17 күн бұрын

    @@vietsmiley ah yeah for the instant dmg right i forgot about that. Just started the game 2 days ago

  • @Tipz011
    @Tipz01118 күн бұрын

    The real warlocks will keep on playing warlock the real ones the real Gs they don't give up the power of the dark if ykyk

  • @mitlandir5761

    @mitlandir5761

    17 күн бұрын

    Damn Voldemorts never give up!

  • @yonuke9507

    @yonuke9507

    17 күн бұрын

    Longsword Warlock 🥵

  • @juliangourley6993

    @juliangourley6993

    13 күн бұрын

    I actually just started playing warlock today and love it

  • @ClassicRedEye
    @ClassicRedEye17 күн бұрын

    That poor elite goblin getting tbe life sucked out of him crom both sides

  • @NanashisJustBetter
    @NanashisJustBetter17 күн бұрын

    Keeping the Kris dagger is crazy

  • @Drawnoutgamer
    @Drawnoutgamer18 күн бұрын

    yeah I used to be a warlock main just switched to rouge

  • @AzanexPL

    @AzanexPL

    18 күн бұрын

    Sorry about that :/

  • @seedcraftthree
    @seedcraftthree17 күн бұрын

    The cyclops is easier as soon as you get the boulderfall jump timing down. Until then, it feels like you have to get through 2-3 unavoidable damage phases

  • @wdg2
    @wdg217 күн бұрын

    Commenting for Algo and info. Cyclops is indeed easier to do than Troll. Just circle right and jump for all his attacks. You don't need to jump them all, I just find it easier than learning which attacks do require it. If he raises club and speaks, wait till he finishes speaking then its jump - jump - duck, rock fall phase is just jump to either side shortly after he slams, rocks will sometimes hit you directly anyways though, make sure to keep curses up for rock fall. For his beam, he does 1 halfway between each rockfall phase. First 1 will be after 3-4 hellfires depending on gear. If he does a normal attack after the 4th there'll be a slight pause after that attack and he'll beam, just get behind him and if he catches you with it then phantomize. If you want safety after phantoming the beam, slow the dps down abit after rockfall until its ready so you don't trigger another beam. Oh and if he goes for stomp then back up, provided your over 290 MS you can still dodge all his attacks while slowed just circling right as usual so don't panic if you get slowed. Once you're comfortable with the fight, its also great to leave him alive if someone tries to fight you in the room, its free healing and you can trigger a rock fall easily to assist with killing the other player, you can always phantom during the rockfall if you do get low. Hope this helps :D Edit: Also, never stand directly behind him, his club slam will have insane tracking if you are, died to that once and immediately learnt never go directly behind him in case he does that attack.

  • @hdrag9
    @hdrag917 күн бұрын

    I went into HR with a decent kit immediately after the update(not reading it). I killed myself summoning hydra.

  • @Spammit-ye4vw
    @Spammit-ye4vw17 күн бұрын

    cyclops is way easier than troll, its just the rock fall phases that are a bit finnicky also I think torture mastery is kinda still fine, it just forces you to either bring more magical healing, or run life drain or not run hydra. honestly think it was a good change, warlock needed nerfs, its my main class too

  • @BroDLoki
    @BroDLoki17 күн бұрын

    This is perfect for a warlock dont need to heal up full hp in sec this need you to play with skill not a overpowerd class

  • @butteroneverything
    @butteroneverything17 күн бұрын

    As someone who recently learned both bosses at the same time I find cyclops MUCH easier on warlock because it's especially good at the only hard part which is the rockfall. You can heal during that phase and it usually only takes about 2 hellfires to get out of it. Cave Troll for me was much harder to learn because the boss seemed much more finicky wrt positioning. One wrong move on cave troll can put you in a world of hurt. Cyclops' move set is much more forgiving and predictable

  • @edtazrael
    @edtazrael18 күн бұрын

    Good gameplay.

  • @ryanish
    @ryanish17 күн бұрын

    I barely noticed the difference with good gear

  • @MarvinGunkle
    @MarvinGunkle18 күн бұрын

    bro you use light mode on discord???

  • @FoxmanSlays

    @FoxmanSlays

    18 күн бұрын

    How do you know this

  • @MarvinGunkle

    @MarvinGunkle

    18 күн бұрын

    @@FoxmanSlays your screenshot of sdf's announcement was white with black text instead of gray with white text

  • @FoxmanSlays

    @FoxmanSlays

    18 күн бұрын

    Caught in 4K

  • @frankjung9094
    @frankjung909411 күн бұрын

    its funny you ran into red in game cus i mix you two up all the time lol

  • @MarvinGunkle
    @MarvinGunkle18 күн бұрын

    cyclops definitely easier than cave troll, you dont even need to worry about spacing, its just having both curses up during rockfall and phantomize up for his eye beam unless you wanna try dodging it

  • @camerondugmore7958
    @camerondugmore79587 күн бұрын

    Funny ending, crazy to come across and die to someone you know ahaha

  • @40thievesgaming
    @40thievesgaming17 күн бұрын

    Its not so bad. Just dont throw hydra spam. Still has one of the two best health recovery systems in the game.

  • @Mr.Amitay
    @Mr.Amitay18 күн бұрын

    64# video i tell foxman to keep saying yo in every beginning of a video

  • @bmb8383
    @bmb838317 күн бұрын

    cyclops is easier to learn, troll is way easier once you learn it/ know how to space the scream

  • @ll1l32
    @ll1l3217 күн бұрын

    honestly, using power of sacrifice on a melee is pretty shit, only usable on mobs. Giving 15 str and 15 vig to someone for a few ticks is so troll, that rogue at the end was naked, first hit didn't even do any damage, only when pos'd got to kill you

  • @frankie310
    @frankie31017 күн бұрын

    Yeah Cyclops is way easier. Even if you don't know how to dodge Cyclops though you can just make him hit hydra, then just keep them both leeched, hydras fresh, and hellfires going. I still love TM.

  • @DarkInos
    @DarkInos17 күн бұрын

    Inventory full of 50g bags.. so bad... they should damn make bigger bags from start.. this is just annoying.

  • @dwoi1961
    @dwoi196118 күн бұрын

    TM warlock makes cyclops super easy you could probably do it without any practice just don’t get hit by the eye stun

  • @garettelordi8686
    @garettelordi868617 күн бұрын

    Cyclops way harder then troll just because of the petrification and rock fall

  • @RynonoCap
    @RynonoCap17 күн бұрын

    SHADOW CURSE WARLOCK GANG FOREVER BOYS!!!!

  • @KonLud
    @KonLud17 күн бұрын

    Yeah cyclops is really easy compared to troll especially for warlock

  • @ademazizi8458
    @ademazizi845817 күн бұрын

    The thing is you lose 24hp on a hydra and then add curses if you get hit by a longbow you can be at around 20-30 hp left. With this nerf the most important stat to focus on is HP.

  • @JGYsoFly
    @JGYsoFly18 күн бұрын

    you sound like the geoguesser guy lol

  • @zacherymulvany6072
    @zacherymulvany607218 күн бұрын

    Wtf the gear is this cheap right now? Holy moley i love getting nerfed

  • @gauge-ks2ym
    @gauge-ks2ym18 күн бұрын

    your not starting a 96 cuz u placed 2 hydra not hating love your vids

  • @FoxmanSlays

    @FoxmanSlays

    18 күн бұрын

    The first one was just to intentionally damage myself, the second one was added into the calculation

  • @Centorios
    @Centorios18 күн бұрын

    now warlock needs to use pots, good change, it was a no brainer spamming skills

  • @johnard8831

    @johnard8831

    18 күн бұрын

    What class do you know has to take damage to do damage? Then of those how squishy compared to lock? The answer is easy. None. It's the only class. And it takes massive damage to cast and that hurts when trying to keep Alive. The pots don't stack so you cast two spells and have to run. It makes half the skills useless for the class. Even wiz can use throwing knives. Range is still the meta here. If you can deal and get away as needed range does that then you can win. It's even worse now that clarity pots are back. Wiz just drinks it and spells are back. That can be done while still attacking and pushing.

  • @Centorios

    @Centorios

    18 күн бұрын

    @@johnard8831 Clarity pots as written only help when resting, warlock can outheal you in every situation against every class. You can phase and reset or even lure a lot of mobs to heal, in 1v1 is still king

  • @AzanexPL

    @AzanexPL

    18 күн бұрын

    @@johnard8831 You are just angry bro, not thinking straight. Warlock is my favorite class and it physically pains me to see him get nerfed again but that was fcking necessary. He was too strong, 50+% of every hr lobby were warlocks bro.

  • @AzanexPL

    @AzanexPL

    18 күн бұрын

    He is still alright, just not op anymore xd

  • @Centorios

    @Centorios

    18 күн бұрын

    @@AzanexPL totally my point, thanks

  • @proike_ttv4886
    @proike_ttv488618 күн бұрын

    it just means you have to use potions like everyone else

  • @nicholassichau7582
    @nicholassichau758218 күн бұрын

    27 minutes of yapping, bro forgot how to edit, gonna make me break my right arrow key

  • @davidmorcombe6779
    @davidmorcombe677918 күн бұрын

    its painful watching warlock players complain about their self healing getting any kind of nerf, like they dont have way more/better then any other class, and the ability to spell cast better then any spell caster class becuase of their mechanics

  • @diegoley7700

    @diegoley7700

    18 күн бұрын

    Fr the change just makes it so they can't spam hydras constantly. They can still spam them though they have to cast both power and curse. I think it's a good balance change and doesn't nerf the class into the ground it's still a top class imo

  • @davidmorcombe6779

    @davidmorcombe6779

    18 күн бұрын

    @@diegoley7700 its still quit possibly the top class, especially with the changes to demonform now

  • @johnard8831
    @johnard883118 күн бұрын

    They will buff range constantly! Rangers always buffed. But the one class that doesn't have any range without the cost of health IE I damage myself to do damage! Gets nerffed! Why? "Balance"? I call BS. It's listening to people who get clapped and then say my class sucks when they havw all the tools to win just can't play well enough.

  • @AzanexPL

    @AzanexPL

    18 күн бұрын

    Nah man, TM warlock was pretty fcking strong xd

  • @diegoley7700

    @diegoley7700

    18 күн бұрын

    Bro cope it's still a great class and tm is still very viable as seen in this video

  • @johnard8831

    @johnard8831

    18 күн бұрын

    @diegoley7700 call it cope all you want. Lock has had little to no love. And when it gets any it get nerffed. I'm stating facts. You have not given any kind of rebutt thus showing me you have nothing. The argument of cope is based for yeah but no my prob.

  • @johnard8831

    @johnard8831

    18 күн бұрын

    @AzanexPL while I don't disagree. It's strong on output 3 times cost of health!? That's nuts no mater who you ask! The point I make stands. That's laft the kit no longer used because of this. If they didn't want you to heal off hydra then they have two options. Make it not heal! Or it be the only one that cost 3 times. I understand why they did it the way was trash. Don't force all spells to be 3 time. 2 for all 3 for hydra. Cant heal to full unless kitted to high end.

  • @diegoley7700

    @diegoley7700

    17 күн бұрын

    @@johnard8831 did you watch the same video we did??? Also warlock has been the top caster class for a very long time and also the top class in general for this whole wipe. Please stop crying about it. Warlock is still very good they didn't change the healing scaling for tm at all it's still very good. Your curse went from 4hp to 6hp if that's such a big deal I don't know what to say. Your just salty you can't spam hydras anymore get a grip

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