Mike is such a great mechanic. So knowledgeable and willing to share it all.

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

he's awesome. so genuine and extremely knowledgable

@Motorsports_3

2 жыл бұрын

@@wettm3 hey I was wondering how much would they charge me to do the rod bearing service?

@VacidZombies

2 жыл бұрын

@@Motorsports_3 2-4K usually

@Motorsports_3

2 жыл бұрын

@@VacidZombies they got me for 2.1k with motor mounts

First, I am impressed there is an E92 M3 with 30k miles. Second, I am really surprised how after only 30k miles this thing needed new rod bearings. Definitely an educational video.

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

thank you! glad you enjoyed the video. yep, it's crazy how worn they were after only 30K, especially how focused the wear was on some of the bearings. def part of the way I drive it contributed to the accelerated wear, but more people need to know this

@DJJumpdancer

3 жыл бұрын

why its not a ferrari or something its still a bmw 3 series just with a big Engine

@DOMS4.

3 жыл бұрын

@@DJJumpdancer Lool hater alert, hater alert

@DJJumpdancer

3 жыл бұрын

@@DOMS4. nope

@LeMans.M3

3 жыл бұрын

@@DOMS4. definitely a hater. “It’s still a 3 series” umm which is still iconic to this day. 2021 and I still see videos praising how good the E9x M3 is. 🤷🏽‍♂️

Great video..I've watched a few videos now on rod bearings and yours is by far the best and most informative

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching! I appreciate the kind words, glad you enjoyed it 🙂

Learned a bunch from this video...wish I lived closer to that shop...they'd get all my business for sure

Great informative video, loving the channel and happy to see it coming so far🤙🏼

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

I appreciate that! thanks for watching, it only progresses with this kind of support. thanks again 🙂

Mine had 86k on the clock and they didn’t 👀 as bad. I went back with BE bearings new mtr mounts and exhaust gaskets. Ive been using Redline 15w50 because of the excellent shear strength capabilities it has.

Great video! You have the best mechanic. Props to him.

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

thank you! Glad you enjoyed it, and yes he is awesome. Extremely knowledgeable and always willing to share/help others out

they did my M3 rod bearings and i am very happy with there work will need fluids replaced later on

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

nice!

Great video! Hella informative about the s65

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

Appreciate it and glad you enjoyed! check the link at the very bottom of the description for more info

Thank you so much for posting this. I've a 2012 and knew about the material difference but hadn't collected any cases of people with post LCI bearings showing dramatic wear. Bought mine last year at 47k. Will definitely look to do this now.

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

yep, keep it on your mind to do in the near future 👍

@idreamofm3841

3 жыл бұрын

@@wettm3 Your video inspired me to get my post-LCI bearings done at 52k. Good thing I did, they were in pretty bad shape. Thanks!

Finally a proper video explaining this. Sick car btw!

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching!

thanks for the heads up!!

this video was so informative. thank you.

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching. check out this link for an enormous amount of info on the S65 Bearings: www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=892838

5:10 they were also required by the EPA to change materials used for compliance. They had to stop using lead and other toxic materials in engine parts and what not.

lol im hesitating a little bit to get one but the job doesn't look that bad im sure i can do it myself.i hear nothing but good things when you replace them and get it over with and since you supplied the link for them makes it even better.

Great video, thanks.

Thanks so much for making this video! How was the drive to and from SoCal? Any bottoming out issues?

Thank you so much for this great video! BMW M3 is my dream car and I've been wanting one for some time now but the rod bearing always intimidated me. This video answered most of my questions and reassured me quite a bit. I didn't even know there was 2 different types of rod bearing! I was wondering if it's possible to put stronger bearings than the copper or aluminum ones? Thank you again.

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

you will be fine once you swap them out with aftermarket ones 👍

Really wish Mike and Precision Dynamics were in Chicago!

Well done, everyones a critic with these cars when it comes to bearings lmfao.. Glad you decided to do it now, though it's pretty crazy how fast the LCIs wore out. Drive hard drive fast 💪

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

yeah seriously. I was very surprised by the wear on mine. Thanks!

Great video. Very educational.

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching!

RS3 here but much respect for this iconic car man, esp urs cause of the the way it looks and it's pristine condition

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

I appreciate that thank you!! I live the RS3 👍

That wear is called timing mark if your knock sensors aren't sensitive enough could result to that and most likely bad oil

Great stuff! N55 335i

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Great video! Super important if you are in the market for an E9X M3. I

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

thank you!!

waiting for the pov vid to drop👀

Man you need to get an engine tune with catless/hi-flo exhaust. The DME is constantly adjusting timing to different values than it is used to with stock cats...which is why I had some detonation at low rpm with my straight pipe setup. Car now drives silky smooth and torquey with an ESS tune.

Other maintenance and why it's needed!

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

will do! I'll think of more stuff to film

I'm at 130k miles and still oem rod bearings 😂😂 wish me luck !

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

omg haha be careful!!

WOW after only 30,000 miles driven the way it was supposed to be

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

yep! I enjoy my car :) too much fun

@mperformance3502

3 жыл бұрын

“The way it was supposed to be” lol it’s not a race car. It’s a 3series luxury coupe. Apparently the motor doesn’t like being driven that way. But props to wetm3 for having a clean well modded m3!

@Xpertgamingtech

3 жыл бұрын

@@mperformance3502 It is not a luxury coupe, it's definetly a sports car. Also, the motor does love revving it out. Just the rod bearings don't. Just test drive one, you'll know what I mean :)

@frankybaez1737

3 жыл бұрын

@@mperformance3502 bro u just mad u got the shitty e46 instead of the e92

@mcjong2205

3 жыл бұрын

@@Xpertgamingtech rod bearings do love it if you drive it hard if you focus on hard driving like on the nurburgh ring for example the wear will be less on them (sorry for my bad english i am trying XD)

Great Video Mike, can you provide part# for the ACL Bearings and Carillo Rodbolts your using so I can order, unfortunately I'm in Cnada, otherwise I'd get you to do my Pre LCI 08 E92 M3 rod bearings

I heard the harder you drive the car the better as the reason they wear is because the tolerances are so small but driving hard forces the oil around them more wearing them less

Sweet man i go to their shop with my m3s too.. Im the exact opposite 🤣. One or two canyon runs a year and otherwise 2,000 miles every year of babying the car and occasionally driving crazy.

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

enjoy it!!

I miss mine, some day I will get another M3.

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

yes!!

Hi, What brand of rod bearings do Mike recomands. Is there an AfterMarket producer that is better than OE?

this makes me worried lol 98k original rods, but getting it done next week. great video

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching! def time to change the bearings haha

great. video

At the end of your video you were driving past my hometown San Mateo,CA. You stay in La or the bay? And did you literally drive from the bay to Mike’s shop In LA?

Rod bearing issue is biggest fear tactic plaguing the S65. Think about this, clearance is the issue and oil is too thick, when the bearings wear down isn't that creating increased Clarence? How is it even possible that the wear location would continue to wear thinner causing the bearing to collapse in the center which = spun bearing like described by the mechanic. The wear is actually creating the clearance for the oil to lubricate. Warm the engine allowing oil to thin out which gets into the bearings before redlining and you will be fine. Of course if you don't know the history of the car (some exec who had it on lease and flogged it cold out the driveway) but even then I still believe the wear just created the clearance which allows lubrication. If this was really an issue bmw would have done the recall very early on or at least changed the clearance for the later model years. Keep fear out of your lives, be sensible and enjoy this masterpiece engine.

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

they increased clearance on the newer bearings (as I mentioned in the video) and it still isn't enough. aftermarket bearings further increase the clearance so oil can properly lubricate. www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=892838

Mahle has released a new set of replacement bearings, much better than the BMW original design or any other brand. Same materials and design they use on their F1 engine components. I just did mine 5k miles ago. Car had 85k and the rears were down to the copper. Previous owner was not very kind to it.

Do a video on other maitanence you should do when buying the e92.

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

will do!!

2012 ZCP, 71k miles. IDK what to think. I do warm up my engine and drive it granny style the first 10 minutes. I think after 15 minutes I sink the throttle to the floor. I do this daily. Personally, I have high confidence in these engines.

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

yeah I always let the car get up to temp and then get on it. a lot 🙂

Does the MT feel better after the new fluid? I am at 66k miles and debating whether to do a transmission fluid flush.

cant wait to get my m3 man, you have a beautiful car

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!! I appreciate that!

Mine looked about the same at ~50k miles. I have ~13k miles on new BE Bearings.

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

yeah mine were pretty bad. Good that you replaced them!

sorry for the comment on a super old video, but I am curious why the Main bearings dont give up if the crank is pushing the bearings out of round?

You should replace rod bearings on any car? Even if not an M3 E92?

Hi, thanks for helpful video since I am a prospective E92 M3 owner. In S.Korea where I am now, the norm is that you shouldn't really worry about rod bearing issue because it only occurs rarely and if it does, you should get covered by warranty (BMW Korea importer replaced entire engine under warranty when it failed. There were few cases reported that the entire engine failed due to rod issue under 50k KM mileage). I wonder how hard you drove this vehicle, to get this much wear within 30K miles. Were you following all engine warm-up procedure and oil change interval? I know few owners who drives more than 200K KM without rod bearing replacement at all, as a daily driver. It seems that the throttle actuator issue is more prevalent among the E92 M3s.

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

yes I drive this car pretty hard but I always let the car warm up to operating temp. throttle actuators may seem like it occurs more often but that’s because there is no threat of extreme failure to the engine if they fail. you just simply replace them. if rod bearings fail, then the engine is typically seized and cannot be recovered so you have to buy a new engine, hence why people replace them beforehand and do not let them reach failure

I think reasons are tight bearing clearance, thick oem oil 10w60 and rev engine to high rpm before the engine is warmed up.

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

engine is always up to temp before revving

That’s awesome I didn’t even realize how low mileage your m3 was! What is your daily driver?

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

Yep! finally able to drive it more often, so I've been enjoying it. X5

I have the same exact car 2013 with 30K and you just convinced me to change my bearings... I was dragging my feet but not anymore after seeing those horrendous bearings. I will go with BE bearings and change them myself since I have a 2-post lift. I disagree they need to be changed every 100K miles especially if you use a bearing that has the right tolerance.

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

yep, better safe than sorry!

What grease did you put on the bearings??? Do I need to put it on the inside and outside?

After replacing the bearings is the issue solved or do you have to keep replacing them

anyone ever bought wett’s bearings and bolts ? if so how have they held up? would u put more in after they go out ? would u go a different route ?

I have 23k miles on my 2013 E92 M3. I should probably think about doing this in the next year or so (I don’t put many miles on this car clearly).

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

yeah it’s good to just get it out of the way, not worth the risk for me with such low miles. yours are low too, start enjoying that thing!

@TazawaTanks

3 жыл бұрын

@@wettm3 Yeah, I agree. I really should enjoy the car more often. I’ve had it for over 6 years!

this is a reoccurring maintenance item every 30-60K? even after you replace the oem ones with aftermarket?

I’m confused. In another video Mike says not to change Diff oil. Metal shavings mixed with oil is good for Diff. Correct me if I’m wrong

Nicest m3 ever 👌

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

thank you!

I watched a guy on you tube who went and changed his rod bearings as a preventative maintenance on a perfectly working N54 engine and about 3000 miles later he spun one of them and destroyed his engine, that made me worry about messing with mine.

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

well he didn't do it right haha. and not sure why he did it on an n54??

@abelucious

3 жыл бұрын

@@wettm3 N54 and N55 engines are notorious for rod bearings failure , and it seemed like he did it right , he didn’t look amateur.

Great video, everything Mike said is correct. Although I did read that the only reason BMW stopped using the lead/copper bearings is because of EU regulations banning the use of lead in car production. Don't know for a fact if that's true, but a softer bearing is always easier on the crank. I had my RBs changed at 40k KMs (25k miles) on my 2010 and while there was a bit of wear on them, it was nothing serious. I went with BE bearings and ARP bolts. Not sure how BE compare to ACL. It's such a mixed bag with these cars. I wonder if the previous owner of your car didn't treat it well/warm it up properly?

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

yes you are correct about the EU regulation, I only found that out after we shot the video. unfortunately still not enough clearance though 😬

I’m considering buying a E92 M3 2013 with about 28,000 miles should I do my bearings now or wait ?

In my country, there is only one 2010 E92 M3 with around 70k miles. I want it but man... Bearing are scary. Should I by the only one available?! No track, old lady driving it as a daily and sometimes kids used it... 😂

How were your motor mounts? Have you felt any difference after RB service?

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

I actually forgot to look at them or film them. oops!

I've been meaning to change the Rod Bearing on my 70k mile M4. I just want to see if it does need changing. Peace of mind thing!

@Thex7phenom

3 жыл бұрын

I've heard of exactly zero rod bearing issues on the S55, but if it helps you sleep at night...

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

I haven’t heard of any issues with the S55 engine regarding rod bearings. The issue with the S55 is the crank hub. Please send me an email if you would like to inquire for a crank hub for your M4 as we are doing a group buy for this as well. only for March 2021 🙂

Throttle Actuators please

Harrop Supercharger installed would be great for your car

I have a question: What the best option for replacing TAs? Rebuilt kits? Stock?

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure about rebuilt kits, the biggest thing is to never get used ones. the plastic gears will have already started to wear down, so if a rebuilt kit has new gears it might be ok, but in this case just get new.

@Thex7phenom

3 жыл бұрын

Buy new from FCP Euro. Lifetime replacement if they ever go bad again.

@RSKY65

3 жыл бұрын

Evolve Automotive just came out with there version lifetime warranty as well.

Can you advise, does the g20 m340i/ g30 m550i/f90 M5 have this rod bearing issue?

It’s so weird the discrepancies we get in the states vs Europe ... Misha Charoudin just did a video on this and the guy Fabsan84 said he never had an issue with bearings before ... but when you see someone do the service the bearings clearly need to be changed

@aaaaaaxaaaaaa

3 жыл бұрын

Tom at EAS has noticed this as well versus Europe and thinks that part of it might have to do with the shitty gas we have here in US but we still don't really know why it's so different

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

yeah i’m not too sure to be honest

How much did you pay for your service? I wanna ship my car to Mike

Is this your daily? If not it would be a good video to introduce it to your channel.

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

no, but since covid, I drive this more than my 'daily' haha

uk m5 s85 with 77k miles on it three shells down to copper

Whats the exhaust on that beast?

is the wettm3special promo code the group buy discount? or is it separate?

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

yes that is the promo code for the group buy but please send me an email if you are interested in joining the group buy. I will send over all the details. if you want just parts, wettm3 is the promo code

please vid with throttle actuators :)

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

I'll work on it in the future for sure!

People who don’t know shit about cars will get duped by this channel.

I changed my oil every 5-6 k miles or every 6 months which comes first.

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

good practice for sure. 👍

Why ACL over BE bearings?

Doesn't this mean the actual crank is damaged too? Does just changing the rod bearings mean the crank has worn unevenly and will prematurely start wearing down the new set of rod bearings too?

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t believe so, but check on this because I don’t know for certain. my understanding is once the crank is damaged you’d need to do a quite intrusive overhaul of the engine, or buy a new one dependent on mileage/cost of replacement. crank shouldn’t be damaged here, i’m guessing because it’s harder than the bearings, the crank only gets damaged when the bearing spins. again all of this is my thought I have zero certainty about this, maybe someone else can shed some light on this.

Hey mines at 62k miles and wanna get rod bearings done. And I’m pretty sure my throttle actuators are going out. So driving it to Costa Mesa doesn’t sound the best. I’m in San Jose, CA. Does anyone know a good trusted place in the bay area to get this work done. ?

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

send me an email about the group buy service. it’s only ~350 miles so i’d assume if you kept driving it, you’d cover that in about a month. maybe be worth the trip

how much is the service package?

Since no one has asked, is the group buy also eligible for the E46 M3?

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

send me an email and I'll get you sorted to be in the group buy :) wettm3@gmail.com

Use the correct oil and let the engine warm up properly and you won't have any issues with rod bearings

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

yeah I've been using 3W21 need to start using 6W33 :/ www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=892838

Lci rod bearings do have a copper layer

Makes me glad I have a 328i lol

Where are they located?

I'm 3200 miles away from personally putting 100k miles on mine lol. I did mine at 97k miles and currently at 156k miles. Not gonna do RB again. If she blows it was just her time lol

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

depends what bearings you put in the car 😬

How do you put 7k miles in three years.. it ain’t a Bugatti. But I know a big thing with this M3 is to let the car warm up to proper temperature before you start driving hard, that will help with the overall life of the engine and rod bearings.

I also have 30k miles on mine... 2011 e92 m3.. fck.. now i have to change them... thanks

@zegast

3 жыл бұрын

Btw, carbon plenum coming soon?

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

glad you found it informative, yours will likely not be as bad as mine but always a safe bet to change them early. Sign up for the group buy!

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

I hope!

That's what happens if you rev your engine before it gets up to temp! Just the guy did at the end of video, reving a cold engine.

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

it was up to temp, I didn’t include the car just idling up to temp in the shop, would’ve been boring

@Karl-by6ub

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the update 🙂! To bad your not close by, I'd have you do them for me! Great video 👍🏻

How long will this promotion go for exactly?

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

only for March 2021!

Proceeds to redline the presumably cold engine right after the rod bearing change, No wonder they're shot at 30K.

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

was up to temp before revving :)

The fact that rod bearings need to be changed as a maintenance item is not surprising. The fact that this owner's rod bearings has signs of premature wear at 30K is not surprising. This dude (from his videos) beats the shit out of the car. Bouncing off the rev limiter frequently is sure to cause premature wear.

The premature bearing wear could be that the car wasn't properly warmed up prior to pushing it.

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

always warmed up before driving hard

@weaver4907

4 ай бұрын

maybe the previous owner did not@@wettm3

Strange he does not mention achieving full operating temperatures before driving hard. Also, frequent OIC. Do love his comments on the effect of E85. Although not immune to this type of preventative maintenance, I love the N54.

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

shouldn’t have to mention it, I always wait until oil is up to operating temp before driving hard.

Apparently BMW engineering couldn't do any better with keeping the bottom ends together on the V8 than they could on the inline 6. Not surprising, I guess.

How much does tha package cost

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

email for all info

Wait was that pull out of the workshop on new bearings when it was cold? And then proceeds to rev the ass off it??? 😳

@wettm3

3 жыл бұрын

no it was up to temp, don’t worry :)

@sanmarino_cs1698

3 жыл бұрын

wettm3 Ah good stuff! As that’s what gets the bearings more than general hard driving. The 10w60 is like water when it’s warm. Treacle when it’s cold. 👍 beautiful car you’ve got 😎

So how many times do you need to the rod bearing during the cars life time? Let’s say 300k. imagine every 30k miles you had to changed them🥴

Damn, the previous owner definitely revved the hell out of it without warming up the engine first lol Edit: damn this mechanic is great, wish he wasn't so far from me