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@zeddyfin

2 жыл бұрын

🇹🇱🇹🇱🇹🇱

@Omer1996E.C

2 жыл бұрын

Can you talk about ethiopia

@overdose8329

2 жыл бұрын

You’re really going to continue basically just reposting Caspian Report’s videos? You have the ability to make unique content and some of your content is great but this is just disappointing

@prinznikitaiii

2 жыл бұрын

Im starting to dislike the content because of Nebula ads. The video lacks conclusion, instead we do have promo, its like watching tv series and the final episode is only available in cinema.

@qwet435tgb

2 жыл бұрын

9

Seeing Aussie's rampant support for West Papua reminds me of this

@osheridan

Жыл бұрын

It's difficult, because on one side you have Australian exploitation and the other is Indonesian exploitation

@furorceltica185

Жыл бұрын

@@osheridan Australia sugarcoats it better than Indonesia

@concretemathematics8146

Жыл бұрын

Wrong. In Papua, you also have US interest. Lots of gold and uranium there.

@ignatiusryd2031

Жыл бұрын

​@@concretemathematics8146 Gold and Copper to be exact, both were very important especially for semiconductors. No Uranium discovered in Papua.

@deidresable

11 ай бұрын

Wrong the one who exploit west papua is USA and east papua is australia like what happen in burkino faso, mali and niger

The worst part is that the person responsible for exposing Australia's involvement in bugging Timor Leste government during negotiations is currently undergoing a secret trial. His lawyer is also facing prosecution. The fact our country is acting like this is a disgrace but it's an ongoing issue

@Snowy265

2 жыл бұрын

Too busy pointing the finger at China.

@m136dalie

2 жыл бұрын

@@Snowy265 Too true. We'll criticise China for their lack of freedom of speech meanwhile anyone who exposes Australian war crimes risks facing life in prison.

@silverhawkscape2677

2 жыл бұрын

No surprise. Look at hpw the government is acting with its Covid Lockdowns. They were always like this.

@m136dalie

2 жыл бұрын

@@silverhawkscape2677 Don't pretend you know anything about Australia's government, since your opinion is clearly formed by mainstream american media

@silverhawkscape2677

2 жыл бұрын

@@m136dalie Not just American. Everyone has been reporting on it even those from Australia commenting on what's been happening.

I love how Timor-Leste literally means 'East-East'.

@furkankurtuluss

2 жыл бұрын

haha just came to write this

@baguskusumaloka

2 жыл бұрын

In Indonesia called Timor Timur Literally East East

@guimts8881

2 жыл бұрын

It gets even better when you realize Portugal means "Port-Port"

@baguskusumaloka

2 жыл бұрын

@@guimts8881 what? Ugal mean port?

@guimts8881

2 жыл бұрын

@@baguskusumaloka not really, it's the fusion of the words "Portus" and "Cale". The first one comes from Latin and the second one comes from Ancient Celtic.

“Who wants democracy?” “Nation votes for it” “No not like that!”

@jayyy3456

2 жыл бұрын

You mean Independence?

@arthurmorgan8966

2 жыл бұрын

American one comes as Lockheed-Martin bombs.

@wandiriswan6116

2 жыл бұрын

@@arthurmorgan8966 wait don't they make planes?

@No-cc1fq

2 жыл бұрын

Did You Said *OIL* ?

@J_cobra

2 жыл бұрын

CIA Be like.

This is like the deeper dive of JuiceMedia's Honest Government Ads

@ankokunokayoubi

2 жыл бұрын

I remembered that video and expected this topic upon seeing this vid's title

@robertabella1806

2 жыл бұрын

thats mostly leftist anti America anti Australia videos with no nuance

@jrh928

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertabella1806 i agree somewhat but left or right... if thats what happened thats what happened....

@Sunrah

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertabella1806 yeah ngl kinda hate their cocky attitude even though i agree with a lot they say, most of the commentary is not really funny, just shock value.

@Zei33

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertabella1806 not all of it. There are certainly some extreme views, but there are some good ideas in some of the juice rap videos as well.

As an Australian, this whole affair makes me full shame job :( Unfortunately the Australian government is still working very hard to prosecute the living sh*te out of the public servant who blew the whistle on the whole affair (ie. told the media about the listening devices) :(

@jghifiversveiws8729

2 жыл бұрын

Don't worry it's not your fault.

@yogi_gs

2 жыл бұрын

And australia still bugging indonesia with west papua.

@taytk8005

2 жыл бұрын

@jameswhatshit Please be assured - Australia is assisted by Canada, EU, Japan and The USA

@XavierXonora

2 жыл бұрын

@@jghifiversveiws8729 no, it is. We elect them.

@jghifiversveiws8729

2 жыл бұрын

@@XavierXonora Yeah but after that it is all on them.

Man, I remember australia and international community used to bitch about indonesia colonize timor leste. And now when australia do the same thing for 20 years (only economy aspect) suddenly no sound at all from international community. I guess it's true when people say, "it's only okay when the good side do it."

@sumbigdumkunt

Жыл бұрын

First of all, we needed the oil more than them. Secondly, there is a class of people placed into concentration camps in China. It’s a known fact and not a single national leader gives a f*ck because messing with China isn’t worth it. We only stomped the N*zi’s because they were already heavily disrupting the world economy.

@osheridan

Жыл бұрын

​@@sumbigdumkunt Ah yes, we needed the oil. Us. A fully developed nation. More than a third world country suffering from extreme poverty and child mortality

I used to joking with my colleague about Timor dilemma; * Timor declaring independence Expectation : Singapore Reality : Zimbabwe It was getting that bad, that their own currency was ditched in favour IDR or AUD for daily transaction, worst that the locally produced good was a way too unreachable for common folks ,imported one was cheaper to bought near border.

@absentmindedshirokuma8539

2 жыл бұрын

TBF, looking at perspective at the time, who would guaranteed Indonesia who just freed themselves from centralized authoritarian military dictatorship wouldn't fall to another one? Habibie, the guy who just replaced soeharto was soeharto right hand. the decision looks bad today because Indonesia successfully getting rid of it's centralization dictatorship and decentralize, while timor leste failed to made a prosper government. but back at the time, independence wasn't look like bad choice. if independence vote happen say in 2004, things would've been much different. the fact that aceh can successfully gain lot special autonomy in 2004 would be unthinkable to happen in 1999.

@whyalwaysme2522

2 жыл бұрын

Your joking forgot a tiny detail, you forgot to mention that Indonesia burned and tear everything, every infrastructure down and made a very difficult exit, costing more Timorese life until the last TNI soldier step his foot out of that half Island. More than 200.000 Timorese life lost or disappeared. Oh yes Australia knew it all and still robbed and fck them timorese up after their independence in 2002 oil deal. Lmfao.

@whyalwaysme2522

2 жыл бұрын

Timor-Leste was devastated and Indonesia try to wipe out them into oblivion.

@roxaskaragi879

2 жыл бұрын

@@whyalwaysme2522those infrastructure were build with indonesia taxpayer money, east timor gone so does with those infrastructure

@absentmindedshirokuma8539

2 жыл бұрын

@@whyalwaysme2522 those are communist purge, which happen even inside indonesia as well, costing 2 milion people lives. the australia and US not only know this, but supported it. not saying it's justified or anything, but it's not ethnical genocide motive you try to imply. those massacre usually done by local collaborator who armed and helped by military.

Britain: *THIS IS MY BOI!* [Wipes tears]

Australia: We absolutely support Timor-Leste as part of Indonesia our neighbor country Informant: but there is an oil and gas resource there Australia: We absolutely support democracy and the independence of Timor-Leste

Big countries bullying small ones is basically humans entire history

@007kingifrit

2 жыл бұрын

such is nature

@user-og6ws6cy5l

2 жыл бұрын

Not really. Not big countries, only colonizers. England is not that big, but there is a reason why the US and Australia exists and what happened to the native population in those areas. And why big countries like India is poor and the opium war existed. All because of a not so big country and certain race which for some reason was really good at it and now they are spread out all over the world.

@eagleeye5943

2 жыл бұрын

The concept Realism, a very crude and primal nature which is the cause of most of the world's inequalities

@youzhou3001

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-og6ws6cy5l it was the religion. Asian religions were more about inwards perfection and the Bible literally orders to convert everyone into it. Religion is a good way to make the masses believe a massacre was justified

@isaacchen1893

2 жыл бұрын

@@youzhou3001 Thats ridiculous. Being a Christian doesnt make me a colonizer. Besides, how the hell would you explain away Japan? (PS, it isnt religion, and blaming Christianity on everything doesnt solve your problems).

I think it's worth mentioning Indonesia's ex-dictator Suharto is despised by most people and was brought into power, overthrowing the previous president, with involvement from the US.

@budakbaongsiah

2 жыл бұрын

but but "enak jamanku toh"

@zoaero

2 жыл бұрын

Sometimes wrong thing was the best

@chaosXP3RT

2 жыл бұрын

I think people always overestimate "US involvement". US support can range from the CIA to a US politician making a speech. But every time it's treated like a CIA coup.

@laqueenawilliams4762

2 жыл бұрын

Overthrowing government is always from good old US.

@askkedladd

2 жыл бұрын

@@chaosXP3RT Because the CIA did support Suharto. Read the released documents from 2016 pertaining american involvement during the communist purge and Suharto's subsequent rise to power.

Brits and Americans: Hey I’ve seen this one before! Australians: What do you mean, it’s brand new?

@PrinceGemJ

2 жыл бұрын

They learn't from the best

@khetamalawad4246

2 жыл бұрын

Britain: *like father like son* *[Wipes tears]*

@rubicon24

2 жыл бұрын

@@PrinceGemJ What is the US, Australia, NZ, and Canada but the remnants of the British Empire. Is it any wonder that they're hardly any different?

@the_struggler963

2 жыл бұрын

Another bully join the server* Britain and America: wow it's our brethren

@WallNutBreaker524

2 жыл бұрын

@@the_struggler963 dont forget china , their taking other countries territory and natural resources like the west philippine sea.

As an Aussie, we need to bring a lot more attention to this. It’s a huge stain to our history that we ignore because Timor-Leste is tiny.

@bob-manuel

2 жыл бұрын

Australia would have been far worse than China and the US if they had the power

@007kingifrit

2 жыл бұрын

don't be a fool. australia needs all the resources it can get to wage war against china. taking from others is the basis of life itself. all countries do it if they can.

@kingofrivia1248

2 жыл бұрын

As an aussie i think feck them thats our oil and money😂

@nzx.

2 жыл бұрын

@@007kingifrit China was not a threat to Australia when it fucked over Timor-Leste and you will never be able to wage a war against China and this oil field is inconsequential to that extent.

@007kingifrit

2 жыл бұрын

@@nzx. china has been a threat for 50+ years. you just didn't notice

Our government is disgusting. It is good that this is getting more attention because the Australian main stream media refuse to cover this.

@guitarkaisg3357

2 жыл бұрын

The "stole" in the title seems clickbaity. polymatter explains it was all decades of negotiation. In the end all nations agreed on a solution. Consequently, there was no theft by any stretch of the imagination.

@beausheffield1895

2 жыл бұрын

@@guitarkaisg3357 the Juice Media claims that they were blackmailed

@slavenrasic2173

2 жыл бұрын

@@guitarkaisg3357 Thats a braindead argument, they literally did steal oil and revenue from them Did they pay them back all the money they made over the years? No.

@slavenrasic2173

2 жыл бұрын

@@guitarkaisg3357 I like how you want to "sound" smart and how you confidently say there was no theft, yet even a 10 year old can see you are wrong. Weak and pathetic. I never understood why people defend their governments, they are not here to benefit you or anyone but themself and companies who pay them ((election)) money

@guitarkaisg3357

2 жыл бұрын

@@slavenrasic2173 Sounding smart or not doesn't matter to me. The countries stroke a deal and I'd expect that Australia paid Timor-Leste the agreed percentage (or the video would mention). Theft, however, is taking on property without permission. But I get what you want to say. A less clickbaity title we could agree on might be: "Australia striking possibly advantageous deal with Timor-Leste".

As an Australian, it's embarrassing to see how successive governments have acted like this, truly shameful. We're not governed by representatives, we dictated by oil companies.

@FasterBueno

2 жыл бұрын

It’s sad

@user-my2cf1ss8x

2 жыл бұрын

Tbh, there seems to be a significant difference between the people and government of Australia. The people do not seem like cunts but the government definitely is! I cant even imagine how they would behave if there were 250 million people and a military like China's. Not even even Indonesia and Malaysia would be safe.

@pugdad2555

2 жыл бұрын

Start a protest with like minded Austrailians

@ricechido1089

2 жыл бұрын

U.S saying hold my beer

@user-fe2hi8rh3m

2 жыл бұрын

no.you elect them.you are them too.

Canada and Australia looking at New Zealand: What about you? New Zealand: We stopped at the indigenous peoples thing. I don't know if we have any further plans.

@alexhuffvn

2 жыл бұрын

Whose oil did Canada steal?

@JollyOldCanuck

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexhuffvn We have our own oil reserves, most of our crimes are related to how we treated the natives.

@khetamalawad4246

2 жыл бұрын

@@JollyOldCanuck and still constructing pipelines on unceded native land that'll (reportedly) poison the last bit of freshwater these people have.. this isn't history btw, just a week ago.

@JollyOldCanuck

2 жыл бұрын

@@khetamalawad4246 Most of the democratically elected tribal councils have given permission in exchange for money to combat extreme poverty on their reservations. Most of the protests are being organized by hereditary chiefs that have no real authority. We’ve essentially starved them into submission.

@khetamalawad4246

2 жыл бұрын

@@JollyOldCanuck omg it's worse than I thought. Why does Canada love to paint itself as (or has an international reputation of being) a more tolerant, progressive, "nice" and less violent than the US when they both have similar records? Btw being better than the US is a pretty low bar especially in treatment of indigenous peoples.

“There is just one tiny problem…sponsored by Curiosity.” Big brain move from Curiosity

@chesed_yt1

2 жыл бұрын

i died after he said that 🤣

Should do a show on Australia. They have many questionable policies and human rights violations but always are some of the most vocal in regards to other countries violations

@ovrsurge4689

2 жыл бұрын

Speaking from the perspective of an australian, I would be very interested to learn more about my country's history with violating everything from international law to basic ethics. East Timor is the case we sort of know about. But I've heard for instance that our constitution was unconstitutionally changed one time. I think any changes require a nation-wide vote of some sort and the change occurred without reaching that point. Also, Its less of an international case, but our politicians seem to have taken advantage of decades of apathy and treat their jobs like an entitlement rather than any responsibility. Insider Trading is an issue, bullying and attempting to imprison critics with verifiably false claims has occurred. Recently the Deputy Premier of NSW stepped down and in his resignation speech actually said it was because one of those critics he had filed false reports to domestic terrorist units about. The country is a mess. The land is blessed to have lasted this long with this much wilful incompetence and crime.

@michaelhall7546

2 жыл бұрын

@@ovrsurge4689 a country made up of the descendants of prisoners and guards bro 😀

@roxylius7550

2 жыл бұрын

@@ovrsurge4689 Australian government is basically mini USA. Themselves committing numerous atrocities and human right violation but pretend to be world police on human right matter.

@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor

2 жыл бұрын

Australia is a nation of hypocrites.

@JC-lu4se

Жыл бұрын

@@ovrsurge4689 Most countries have parts of it that aren't that great. Maybe try and find some positive things as well. There's a reason millions of people have come to live here.

this is very interesting topic because this region of the world isn't cover mush in modern day discussion ever tho it has one the most interesting and fascinating history and geopolitics etc more people on yt should cover this topic learning about it will help us to understand there mind set and other aspect of there life so thanks

@magimon91834

2 жыл бұрын

Why am I finding you in every comment section today 😂

@Zei33

2 жыл бұрын

Well the Phillipines is one of the most populous countries in the world and basically no news comes out of there. Australia is inconsequential and I can say that as an Australian. The rest of the countries are poor.

@braynstorm3149

2 жыл бұрын

@@Zei33 Poor in what way? Indonesia is way larger and richer than the Philippines in both total GDP and per capita GDP, and virtually no news ever comes out of there in the “West” unless a huge a natural disaster happens. Also, ever heard of Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand? All are pretty well off (extremely well off in the case of Singapore) - likewise, very little news unless you follow business news. Here’s the rule of thumb: if you hear a lot about a non-White country in the West, it’s only because it’s broken, has been invaded by you, or a combination of both (Afghanistan, Somalia, Iraq, Vietnam, etc). Or the “West” is terrified of you (China, Russia, Japan in the ‘80s, etc). So it’s actually a pretty good thing to be unheard of in the Western media. If you’re talking about the little dots of land to your northeast in the Pacific, then yea, those are forever poor and tethered economically to Australia/NZ. I guess East Timor is the newest addition to that after its independence. Congrats, I guess?

@braynstorm3149

2 жыл бұрын

@Yummy Spaghetti Noodles Hard labor and slaves? Exaggerate much? Factory jobs are a walk in the park compared to actual hard labor. Look at the primitive mines in Congo and other parts of Africa, where they mine the key metals that go into your electronic gadgets if you want to see what actual hard labor looks like.

@yohaneschristianp

2 жыл бұрын

@@Zei33 I mean it's quite similar condition to USA, except there is Canada next to it, let's call it New Zealand.

I am Indonesian, and I remember saw this on the news. I remember how Australia shamelessly saying they will give their full support to Timor Leste, and how they will become a good neighbor and no need to be afraid to Indonesia since they will back up Timor Leste. I also remember how Timor Leste representative said they will become successful after becoming independent from Indonesia. People already long expect it, Timor Leste won't last long. Nation with one income won't last very long esp natural resources can run out. I am not saying Indonesian govt are right after the massacre they did, but they should've accept the special administrative region from govt. Special administrative region means it is almost a country within a country. Now I am interested with Bougainville. Will it repeat Timor Leste tragedy? Will Australia get what they want again? We can only wait and see

@CyBerCat6410

2 жыл бұрын

Pfft fucking ironic coming from an Indo when ur country is currently occupying Papua and other land that ISNT Indonesian 😂

@ghandithesupremeleader9740

2 жыл бұрын

@@CyBerCat6410 do you even understand what "indonesian" means? We are not like a country e.g china where the ethnic hans represents china... And fyi the eastern part of indonesia didn't resist that heavily... So meaning they were okay with it with joining indonesia...

@CyBerCat6410

2 жыл бұрын

@@ghandithesupremeleader9740 "didn't resist that heavily.." 🤣😂🤪 all i need to know.. yeah im sure the papuans are happy knowing a COMPLETE foreign power is occupying half their country while being considered "Indonesian" 😂

@kamerad_marzuki3631

2 жыл бұрын

​@@CyBerCat6410, First of all, Indonesian are nationality, not ethnicity.

@faiq026

Жыл бұрын

@@CyBerCat6410 if you mean by resistance is burning schools and killing healthcare workers then you're right

"We defend freedom and democracy" Defending Freedom:

@kenoath1313

2 жыл бұрын

dont lump us in with america

@ero6056

2 жыл бұрын

@@kenoath1313 dont wory we wont cuz you are worst than us who atleast get called out for their bs while you just keep bullying your way out of the problem like the ccp

@dodobeebee7352

2 жыл бұрын

@@ero6056 don't hate us cause you aint us homes

@ero6056

2 жыл бұрын

@@dodobeebee7352 sorry try again cuz i dont speak upside down

@dodobeebee7352

2 жыл бұрын

@@ero6056 sǝɯoɥ sn ʇuᴉɐ noʎ ǝsnɐɔ sn ǝʇɐɥ ʇ,uop

"There is just one tiny problem. (Sponsored by Curiosity Stream and Nebula)"

@user-qy3vl2rb6n

2 жыл бұрын

this indicates that curiosty stream and nebula are horrible sponsors

@shubhangbhavsar

2 жыл бұрын

😂

@seneca983

2 жыл бұрын

Does that mean that the sponsorship by them is the problem or that they sponsored the problem?

@user-qy3vl2rb6n

2 жыл бұрын

@@seneca983 we're just joking

As an Australian, I'm extremely angry and ashamed at how greedy, underhanded and scummy my country behaved when it came to East Timor. The more you read about it the worst it gets. When the spying scandal leaked, ASIO, our equivalent of the FBI, raided the home and office of East Timor's lawyer and the whistle blower, the latter of whom is being prosecuted and has had their passport confiscated, so they can't appear as a witness in the Hague. The foreign minister at the time, Alexander Downer, just so happened to get a nice consultant job for Woodside Energy, one of the companies that profited from Australia bullying East Timor out of its oil. And people ask what we need guillotines for.

@dwipaal-farisi4107

2 жыл бұрын

I remember the spying scandal😂

@JC-lu4se

Жыл бұрын

@@dwipaal-farisi4107 I remember Indonesian genocide of the Timorese.

@JC-lu4se

Жыл бұрын

"As an Australia".....you don't even know basic English. I doubt you're really AustraliaN.

@dwipaal-farisi4107

Жыл бұрын

@@JC-lu4se don’t worry, ppl hate the m1litary here, particularly the president at the time. U should check out what he did for 30+ years

@Enseaclopedia

Ай бұрын

​@@dwipaal-farisi4107 well they tap Indonesian president's & his wife's phone too

2:03 "There's just one tiny problem...sponsored by Curiosity Stream and Nebula!" Me: I did not see that coming...

what a lovely Christmas episode "how Australia Stole Oil"

@kenoath1313

2 жыл бұрын

and we'll bloody do it again

@raidenshotgun5997

2 жыл бұрын

@@kenoath1313 China to Australia: No you won't :)

@demo9299

2 жыл бұрын

So at once time Australia acted like the Grinch

@n-a-t-e

2 жыл бұрын

@@demo9299 and since then its heart grew three sizes yes

@JC-lu4se

Жыл бұрын

I'll watch that alongside "Portugal did nothing for Timor in 400 years" and I'll follow that up with "Indonesians really care for their little neighbour even though they killed 20% of their population over a bloody 24 year occupation".

I watch a lot of educational content on KZread, but yours is always the first I click on. You have a fantastic voice and a great way of explaining things, you truly are amazing at what you do. Keep up the great work!

The fact that we get free documentaries on KZread by PolyMatter is truly a gift 👍

@janoycresnova9156

2 жыл бұрын

They should all be free

@valenrn8657

2 жыл бұрын

It's obsolete since Timor-Leste and Australia have officially resolved their disputes over maritime borders in the Timor Sea.

@ohlordy9680

2 жыл бұрын

@@valenrn8657 May I remind you that the Iraq war was all about OIL, and Afghan occupation was for RARE EARTH MINERALS. About half a million Iraq citizens and one hundred thousand Afghans died as well. The Vietnam war was all about RUBBER that the nation produced around 80% of world supply in those days. About 5 million innocent Vietnamese and 6 million Cambodians died due to the direct and indirect effect of war. 😔

@valenrn8657

2 жыл бұрын

@@ohlordy9680 Wrong, Australia is exporting Titanium, Lithium, Cobalt, and Rare Earth metals to the US. Australia is the largest Lithium producer. The Australian government (federal and state levels) has switched to government aiding its rare earth companies almost like CHina's i.e. fuk WTO rules.

@valenrn8657

2 жыл бұрын

@@ohlordy9680 Wrong, Afghan rare earth metals are largely untapped. Land area Australia = 7,692,000 km² Afghanistan = 652,860 km²

They were join with Indonesia with the help of Australia, also got their "Independence" with the help Australia when the oil was discovered.

@familyandfriends3519

9 ай бұрын

Yep Australia help create Timor Leste

This feels like something Half As Interesting (HAI) would cover but with a lot more crappy but somehow relatable jokes

@enqrbit

2 жыл бұрын

I thought that it was a HAI video until I clicked on the video.

@mechanikalbull5626

2 жыл бұрын

That channel was in downfall because half of content was forced humor and annoying fanbased.

@ordinaryperson-my7qr

2 жыл бұрын

@@mechanikalbull5626 yup... It's really falling 🙄

@tauceti8060

2 жыл бұрын

Jokes are more annoying than funny.

@fzzy5739

2 жыл бұрын

nah not relatable, jut crappy

Australia: *Eat cakes Timor-Leste: can i have some Australia: F off Timor-Leste: but i paid for that Australia: *Eats faster, alright here you go Timor-Leste: aight, wait a minute the good stuff is all gone Afghanistan: first time? (Lithium)

Could you cover the similar situation involving the resolution to the grey-zone on the maritime border between Norway & Russia? Involving a gas-field worth several hundred billion dollars. Russia drew their line far past the mid-line, and it seems the agreed upon line ended up significantly in Russias favor due to their persistense, and possibly the power-imbalance.

@thebananas6483

2 жыл бұрын

Bump.

@TeddyKrimsony

2 жыл бұрын

well it's not like the tiny wealthy population of Norway need even more money from geological luck.

@AlexanderEM4840

2 жыл бұрын

​@@TeddyKrimsony I'd be fine with an imbalanced split if Putin would leave office in favor of someone that wants peace and cooperation. I think a few more years of Gorbachev would have done wonders for Russia

Australia: steals oil from a smaller weaker nation USA: That’s my boy

@WanderTheNomad

2 жыл бұрын

*That's my brother

@xraymind

2 жыл бұрын

Both learn from their mom, the British.

@CommissarMoody1

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, every big nation in history steals from smaller nations. It's kind of what they do.

@evonerfin3

2 жыл бұрын

@@CommissarMoody1 i just wonder what you would have said if this was done by china

@lewiedewymountaindewy

2 жыл бұрын

@@evonerfin3 China is doing this in the South China Sea

You already knew which country he was going to talk about if youre a Caspian Report viewer.

@TheRibbonRed

2 жыл бұрын

Or a resident of any of the three countries involved.

@unserkatzenland8884

2 жыл бұрын

Or ASEAN members

@2Links

2 жыл бұрын

Or a TheJuiceMedia viewer

@alexandrearaujo2877

2 жыл бұрын

Or a Portuguese citizen that's aware of the horrible things that have happened in one of his country's last former colonies in the last few decades.

@casualwatcher5029

2 жыл бұрын

Or a timorese native

Britain: *Like father like son*

@ameybirulkar7503

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂

I had never heard of any of this, thanks for the info. Well done.

Indonesia : left Timor Leste East Timor : Finally, independence *Australia : Allow us to introduce ourselves*

Australia support indonesia to take east timor. And then australia against indonesia because take east timor. And then australia steal oil from free east timor.

Thanks for speaking out on this, the treatment of Timor-Leste by austrailia is unacceptable. Furthermore, austrailia silenced Witness K and tried him secretly - A sorry excuse for a "civilized nation"

@joaobaptista8377

2 жыл бұрын

The Laywer of K is a bit like australias version of Snowden or even Assange

@joaobaptista8377

2 жыл бұрын

Australia is still kinda part of Britian they still fly the Union Jack after all. shouldnt they have theyre own type of flag. Commonwealth means technically are part of UK sorta speak

@ketsu6100

2 жыл бұрын

Timor Leste exists at all because Australia intervened heavily in the Indonesian genocide which this video conveniently ignores.

@invijr

2 жыл бұрын

@@ketsu6100 LMAO, no they did not, Australia was the first western country to acknowledge Indonesian rule over east timor after years of ignoring Portuguese authority over east Timor, and wanted to delay independence even further by the Howard government to have the referendum in 10 years in favor of Australian interests, In fear of being seen as a colonial power the Indonesians called a snap referendum the same year that lead to the independence. the genocide you are referring to happened in the 70s, when Australia tacitly approved of the invasion, by knowing of the impending invasion and kept it secret for about a week to let it happen. so how did Australia intervene in the 1990s to the genocide they tacitly approved in the 70s?

@user-kx8jr6on3j

2 жыл бұрын

This is all the fault of the liberal-national coalition, not Australia as a whole. I know it’s not good, but honestly I wish when Labor comes to power they use the AFP to raid Newscorp to give them a feeling of what it’s like.

We all saw how they sent troops to Solomon islands like it was Australia's own backyard

@smalltime0

2 жыл бұрын

So did Fiji and PNG, both renowned international bullies.

@5267w

2 жыл бұрын

wait when did australia do this?

@not2hot99

2 жыл бұрын

If you mean this year? As far as I'm aware that was formally requested.

@Alex632

2 жыл бұрын

You mean you saw how Australia and nz was requested to send police and military to aide in the protests? How dare they 😂😂😂😂

@organizedchaos4559

2 жыл бұрын

Except the president ask them to

This story again... I just hope Australia understands how badly they made themselves look here. Another channel, CaspianReport does good coverage on this topic too.

@5267w

2 жыл бұрын

i cant imagine our politicians really give a shit and its not like its gonna be well known to the general public and the international community pretty much ignores any of the fucked shit our country has done in the past since we are so closely aligned with the US

@shivanshna7618

2 жыл бұрын

@Eli Bishop troll bait

@notnilc2107

2 жыл бұрын

@@5267w Politicians represent the will of the people. And people don't give a shit about east timor. Seriously though, do you even know the name of your local representative? I certainly don't. Imagine if everyone did, though. Imagine if everyone regularly talked to their local representative and was all like "Yo you see that shit happening in east timor? That shit's fucked up aint it" and the representative would be like "Yeah thats fucked, jimmy over in bathurst reckons it's pretty fucked too so we're gonna be bringing it up with the others to see whats up". That'll never happen though.

@tengkualiff

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-op8fg3ny3j no worries i saw it. Its okay though, these are actually good replies.

@Alex632

2 жыл бұрын

Highly doubt Australia is gonna care about how they look from a youtube video

Thank you for the coverage.

About time Timor start preparing the Emus and send Australia back

2:02 "There is just one tiny problem: sponsored by Curiosity Stream and Nebula"

"The Price of Freedom" Australia Said

lots of respect for the captions!

Next video on Wendover Productions: The Logistics of Australian Nationalism

@harunsuaidi7349

2 жыл бұрын

History Matters: Why Timor Leste Exists

@ero6056

2 жыл бұрын

@@harunsuaidi7349 cuz portugese cannot care less about this barren peice of land and also bechause cold war

"Australia stole this tiny country's oil" USA: "Hey that's my job!"

This is the reason Timor Leste wants to join ASEAN but cannot enter because of their problems related in this video. If TL enters, it will be a burden on that organization🗿

@JenniferJennyMitchell

Жыл бұрын

Damn Straight

@osheridan

Жыл бұрын

Why the moai emoji?

@JenniferJennyMitchell

Жыл бұрын

@@osheridan In Indonesian, Moai Emoji Is Expression Of Flat Face when Uttering a Sarcasm Remark...

@JenniferJennyMitchell

Жыл бұрын

Let's Hope East Timor never joint ASEAN

@osheridan

Жыл бұрын

​@@JenniferJennyMitchell So I guess they want Timor to join ASEAN if they're being sarcastic?

I was 15 when it got independence (hearing atrocities from our army and stuff), i cant really say anything but wish them luck and the best. even if they now have their own country/nation, they still siblings to me

Australia making its British conquistadors proud! 💪🏻

@khetamalawad4246

2 жыл бұрын

*Like father like son*

@TenOrbital

2 жыл бұрын

Except there was no conquest, I guess. The boundary was renegotiated in 2018.

@cryostatis3018

2 жыл бұрын

@@TenOrbital Well the war happened over a decade ago and a third of the Timor Leste population are dead. So success?

@kenoath1313

2 жыл бұрын

@@TenOrbital well we acted just like the british empire screw over small undeveloped countries with treaties

@TenOrbital

2 жыл бұрын

@@cryostatis3018 - What?

I swear to god Polymatter and Wendover read my mind. Here I am planning a trip to Timor-Leste in year for the solar eclipse, and learning about this country, when all of a sudden, polymatter decides to do a video on it.

@r3dpowel796

2 жыл бұрын

Timor is really struggling economically at the moment. Expect the worst.

@Token_Nerd

2 жыл бұрын

@@r3dpowel796 Unfortunately I have been

@r3dpowel796

2 жыл бұрын

@@Token_Nerd like I told you. its still struggling to find a viable revenue.

@moy2010

2 жыл бұрын

Which god?

As an Aussie, I am very disappointed in Australia’s ability to care for its neighbor nations.

@MultiHobos

2 жыл бұрын

Nah

@joaobaptista8377

2 жыл бұрын

a neighbor that sufferd a genocide to level of the holocaust. remember that as well

@kenoath1313

2 жыл бұрын

maybe if our neighbours werent so weak they wouldnt get their oil stolen maybe they should of thought about that

@j0ltij562

2 жыл бұрын

Not only do we not care for our neighbors, we actively break international law. It's all pollies looking after themselves, Alexander Downing, the one who ordered the bugging, got a cushy consulting job with Woodside, just the perfect example of corruption.

@kenoath1313

2 жыл бұрын

@@j0ltij562 yes our government does infact like to further its interests which in most cases comes at the expense of another nation that is how that works and while politicians do like to not be the best people they are also the best people for the job of furthering your countries interests which happen to lie in oil because oil makes alot of money for a country.

Just found out that Timor Leste declared independence on the same day that I was born in 😂

@john_smith_john

2 жыл бұрын

who cares?

@AkuTidakPeduli

Жыл бұрын

​@@john_smith_john I care

9:22 dude legit has a smirk on his face like "yeah we just got away with this!"

The answer is obvious, arm the Emus and create internal problems for Australia, then negotiate from a strong position.

@braynstorm3149

2 жыл бұрын

What about the kangaroos? I say they’re well suited for guerilla warfare.

@fajaradi1223

2 жыл бұрын

Naaah.. Those rabid froth mouthed camels are waaay better

@wenethmoon6587

2 жыл бұрын

mate you should see the size of those fuckers, went hunting a while ago and took a shitload of .22 rounds and 2 more rounds from a .308 before it stopped trying to get away. fucking massive birds and pretty damn determined to live that's for sure xD

Thanks for the informative video.

When kurzgesagt and polymatter upload videos together 😵

@pascalnugroho5966

2 жыл бұрын

HAHAHAHA

The Australian state (not its people) has long been a predator on the region, look at how they sapped Papua for example. It's time we people put a stop to such behaviour of governments and companies.

@TheArmouredOne

2 жыл бұрын

But the people support the government! Thereby they too are to guilty! (How a good majority of us aussies think of other nations and governments but the irony is clear as mud)

@0xsergy

2 жыл бұрын

Every country does this shit. 1st world countries exploiting 3rd world developing nations to keep themselves in power. Really quite a shame.

@RM-el3gw

2 жыл бұрын

@@0xsergy how many Australians are out there protesting this kind of thing? That would really tell you if Australians really are "innocent".

@admiral_waffles533

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheArmouredOne while both have the same result, i'm pretty sure actively supporting the stealing of a poor country's economic lifeblood is different than complacency, so its not exactly fair to pin the blame on your average voter. And by complacency i mean they're preoccupied with problems that do affect them, however small. Think how most people react to the Ughyur Genocide: Do they think it's abbhorent? Yes. Are they gonna do anything about it? No That level of selflessnes is something only a blessed special few have. Something most of us (including you and me) both do not have.

@kenoath1313

2 жыл бұрын

@@RM-el3gw not much its in our best interest to further the betterment of our country not a tiny sliver of land to our north

you forgot to mention how, when Timor-leste took Australia to court at the Hague, the Australians raided the homes of a classified witness who ran the wiretapping operation and his lawyer, essentially ensuring that Timor-leste's case would go nowhere. Australia is now continuing on this trajectory of stepping all over it's citizen's rights, especially in recent times. Australia was created as a prison state and will very likely die as one.

@VineFynn

2 жыл бұрын

..australia doesn't tramp over its peoples rights, only that of asylum seekers

@ketsu6100

2 жыл бұрын

Timor-Leste as a country and its people owe Australia a great debt for how heavily we intervened in the Indonesian genocide of the region which is conveniently left out of this video. Without Australian intervention and Australian diplomats bringing the ethnic cleansing occurring in Timor Leste to the world stage, Timor Leste and its people probably wouldn’t exist. To imply that Australia and Australians are nothing but criminals and villains in the story of Timor Leste is both insulting and untrue.

@absentmindedshirokuma8539

2 жыл бұрын

@@ketsu6100 polymatter literally say in the video how indonesia massacre timor leste population. and it is true at the time. but the current issue is australia force extracting timor leste resource made timor leste has no chance to develop. saying australia entitled to those is like saying you are free to abuse orphanage because you adopt them. that's just abusive and dangerous thinking.

@moistnutella9560

2 жыл бұрын

@@ketsu6100 I hope you realise the Australian government supported the Indonesian annexation of Timor Leste all the way up to the collapse of the regime led by Suharto.

@JohnDoe-ml4ye

2 жыл бұрын

@@Fishmans not allowing her citizens to move between provinces and forcing them to submit a selfie with location data attached or face arrest seems pretty extreme to me

would like to thank you for demonstrating this, very good.

Nice to meet you after long

I heard Timor Leste along with Papua was once Australia's USA Caribbean "backyard"

It's also interesting how countries are formed, like hey this is gonna seem weird to the people who've already been living in the area for generations, but you're now living in an entirely new nation as of *looks at watch...

Right now, few days ago new Timor Leste President come to Indonesia to ask helping them to join ASEAN.

Alternative title for the video: "what if resource curse wasn't a thing?"

2:09 I see how this can be a problem. Why knew that Curiosity and Nebula helped Australia steal the oil?

As an Angolan I wish all success for ours Portugueses speakers brothers greetings from Lisbon, Portugal 🇵🇹🇦🇴🇹🇱🇧🇷

5:31 - Taking too much in withdrawals + 9:50 - keeping 80% of revenue = solution to question. Have Australia process the oil, invest the money into the wealth fund and make sustainable withdrawals (interests + dividends) to develop either other industries or the educational system.

Two things Indonesia government never allowed in the news : Timor-Leste and West Papua dark histories.

@aarspar

2 жыл бұрын

Tbh there should really be more news and talks about these issues in the media, but I guess every country has their corrupt politicians.

@yulusleonard985

2 жыл бұрын

Lol everyone already know. Those happen in Suharto junta regime.

@TheRibbonRed

2 жыл бұрын

While I agree this should be more open to the common Indonesian folk, it's not like Australia allows documentation of their own exploitation on Timor Leste either. Nor they will once they or any other hands nibbed West Papua off.

@yulusleonard985

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheRibbonRed Oh its very open. If you live in Soeharto era every poem in book shop are talking about atrocities in East Timor. We have propaganda minister (Harmoko) but he was doing terrible job to the point everyone automatically believe the opposite is true like Soviet Russia joke.

@lunascomments3024

2 жыл бұрын

lol every netizens knows this story. news even covered them. Are you an Aussie? Trying to portray your country as holier than thou.

There's just one tiny problem, sponsored by Curiosity Stream and Nebula.

Thanks for this video. Maritime boundaries is a crucial issue the world has to do justice to

@Meonium

2 жыл бұрын

China: SCS anyone?

There's just one tiny problem...Curiosity Stream and Nebula. Maybe not the best timing there

Ah yes, the most shameful thing Australia has done that Midnight Oil hasn’t written a song about

@TotoDG

2 жыл бұрын

Which, ironically, is _actually_ about oil.

here we go, another episode of how my country failed to become a new superpower

Let’s hope Witness K gets out of the court a free man

Learnt new knowledge!

Not sure if E Timor would be better off as a province of Indonesia than being independent. The country that over-relied on oil and became bankrupt is Venezuela. Government officials are too shortsighted to see that the oil boom would last forever and relied on just 1 industry to provide jobs. There must be other resources the country can tap into or build new industries like manufacturing when the oil boom is going to provide jobs after the oil price collapsed. A country like Japan with no oil has enough brains to dominate the car & electronics industries after the war.

@migrocha

2 жыл бұрын

It's a choice between being poor or being exterminated at the hands of the Indonesia

@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor

2 жыл бұрын

Indonesia actively carried out an ethnic cleansing campaign in Timor-Leste.

@absentmindedshirokuma8539

2 жыл бұрын

indonesia is no longer centralized dictatorship for 30 years now. stop deflecting timor leste issue and how they should be grateful for being poor. that's just soo wrong.

@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor

2 жыл бұрын

@@absentmindedshirokuma8539 Timor-Leste didn't want to be a part of Indonesia, that's why they fought against them the whole time. The only people who can decide whether or not the Timorese should or shouldn't be grateful for Indonesian occupation are the Timorese, and they're not, so cut the shit.

@absentmindedshirokuma8539

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor again, that has nothing to do that Australia extracting timor Leste resource.

USA & UK : Welcome to the club.

@martin4374

2 жыл бұрын

For real. I thought that after killing off Aboriginals, they were, you know... cool. But no, I guess we all fall into (or back) villainy with enough time and money.

@5267w

2 жыл бұрын

@@martin4374 most of the aboriginals werent killed intentionally it was from disease but yeah australia did a lot more like wiping most of their culture out, the white australia policy and the stolen generation and more

@jxmai7687

2 жыл бұрын

Australia always was in the club of the white man world, Australian didn't stole those oil, it was those few rich white mans.

I'm indonesian, and I'm thankful that East Timor gained independence. Guess why. Because it ends up being a failed nation (sorry to say but it's true). And remembering that Indonesia is made of multi languages, multi races, this (Timor Leste) can be a lesson for other regions that want to gain independence. You know what, Indonesia is stronger if we (all indonesian provinces) are together, to become respected at the world stage we have to be a big country, and Indonesia has it, because we're together, together stronger. ~ God created Timor Leste to protect Indonesia. And I thank the rebel province Timor Leste for having giving us a very precious lesson from your failure, and this makes Indonesia stronger. My message to Timor Leste: Keep being poor, keep being failed, because you're precious that way.

@Alaryk111

Жыл бұрын

But at this point why not just return under gloriuos Duch rule? That would be a great multicutural country with Sri Lanka, South Africa, Surinam and already a well respected and more importantly civilized country.

@Alaryk111

Жыл бұрын

@@epg96 Do you know what sarcasm is?

@OldToothbrush0210

Жыл бұрын

I support Papua independence Just to see them become Timor Leste sequel

@FoxyJade

Жыл бұрын

@@Alaryk111 what the dutch did was the european old colonialism. Slightly different with East Timor. indonesia annexed ET to become one of its provinces during the reign of the dictator president Soeharto. And so ET was kinda chaotic bcs of some political conflicts. And then after the dictator president Soeharto was kicked out and new president came in, he gave a referendum to ET. Meanwhile, talking about dutch colonialism, they make the natives worked like slave, treat them like they’re animals, etc, ofcourse nobody likes them. If only the dutch were nicer to the natives so that the local kingdom at that time were lured to join the dutch, then indonesia’d have been under the dutch until now

@JenniferJennyMitchell

Жыл бұрын

@@OldToothbrush0210 Well It sounds interesting, but sorry mate it wont happen

This documentary forgot to add USA as the country who gave incentives to Timor Leste to gain independence despite the very undeveloped nature of the country. And for those who are wondering why Indonesian oppressed the Timor Leste people: it was the time when Soeharto was the president, elected through nepotism, and is one of the worst dictator in history. So it wasn't just Timor Leste, but the whole country that were oppressed by the military.

@harukrentz435

2 жыл бұрын

And soeharto was endorsed and supported by western power.

@dto507

2 жыл бұрын

@@harukrentz435 true. Soekarno, the previous president, was in close relationship with the Soviet Union. Obviously the USA didn't like it. There's a lot of rumor that Soeharto managed to manipulate information by the help of the USA. He managed to convince the public that Soekarno is a communist and also killed a few country heroes.

@abcddef2112

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah on the discussion of how viable east timor as a state they mention the oil can possibly support a state. Interesting then what the west did with the oil.

@animedaddy78

2 жыл бұрын

Timor was pretty bad after portuguese independence but not as terrible as how the Indonesian left it.

@dto507

2 жыл бұрын

@@animedaddy78 yes. Soeharto rule by fear. So he wanted to make other region think twice before separating from Indonesia. He destroyed a lot of infrastructure. 🤦‍♂️

Shame on Australia.

@pinkgoergefloyd8340

2 жыл бұрын

There’s much worse out there

@dominant2576

2 жыл бұрын

@@pinkgoergefloyd8340 tell me about it. I'm from Iraq lol.

@nzx.

2 жыл бұрын

@@pinkgoergefloyd8340 Is that how you justify your actions?

@nzx.

2 жыл бұрын

@@dominant2576 ouch

@pinkgoergefloyd8340

2 жыл бұрын

nzx where r u from

Aussies Really took the British Descendant part seriously huh?

2:00 "There's just One Tiny Problem... Sponsored by CuriosityStream & Nebula" didn't know they interfered in Australasian politics

The yellow theme of the thumbnail made me think this was a Half as Interesting video for a second. Which is odd considering I saw it in my subbox and I'm not subscribed to HAI.

There are two types of comments here, Australian chauvinists, and Indonesian chauvinists.

2:02 At first I thought it sounded like Curiosity Steam is sponsoring Timor Leste's one tiny problem 😅

video about west Papua next.

"There's just one problem: this video is sponsored"

no free lunch timmy, now you know how the world works... just think what'd happen when you run out.

British: oh, the children seems to have learned fast

After operation seroja,timor leste maked a province The name is litterarly TIMUR TIMUR

FINALLY someone pays attention to this.

I saw the title and thumbnail and immediately thought this was half as interesting

Timor Leste build from a dream. but they should know that "dream" alone cannot feed the people, let alone make 'em prosper.

@JenniferJennyMitchell

Жыл бұрын

Remember the day they will prosper like Singapore??? :V

@devilopment3291

Жыл бұрын

@@JenniferJennyMitchell yea, with those narrow ocean boundary, air space, little resources, they surely not thinking through. "ah, but there's Brunei!" yes, there's such example, but they must planned everything beforehand. before they plan to break free from Indonesia. become something every country could not ignore economically. not build up based from political interest of several people who didn't have (or even think about) long term plan for their idealistic new country. welp, may timor leste be prosper for the sake of the citizens in the country.

@JenniferJennyMitchell

Жыл бұрын

@@devilopment3291 Welp they were not Independence by their own will.. it was Australian who keep telling them so Australian will got their Resources... Poor bastard.. but that's what they Deserve

The questions are: 1. Who instigated East Timor? 2. Which country would benefit if East Timor became a new nation with nothing but oil? 3. Who is now taking advantage of East Timor's independence? AUSTRALIA

@iamthinking2252_

2 жыл бұрын

And Australia also sold arms to Indonesia while Indonesia was annexing Timor around in ‘70s…

Australia has never stolen East Timor's oil and gas!. But that is a reward for Australia's assistance for the independence of Timor Leste, there is no "free" food in this world friends 😂😅

Thank you for covering this

Australia lusts East Timor's oil. And to make things worst East Timor is a very poor country. How a rich country like Australia can act like a very fair and decent country in the face of the world baffles me when I learned it. I've been to the Bayu Undan gas field years back to attend a main engine problem of a supply vessel with service contract to a rig company manned by mostly Australians. The oil field is closer to the East Timor shore than Australia is by lot but the oil is being pumped out of the well all the way to Darwin for processing and refinery. Good thing there was a treaty now signed by both countries regarding the issue fought very hard by the Timorese giving a just compensation to what is due them.