When all the fan works are based on the concept art vs the *actual movie* you know things are bad.

@gamestation2690

4 ай бұрын

I don't think so. This is the kind of problem you also see with many people in the Star Wars fandom. They try to impose the story they themselves wanted to see instead of understanding the story on its own terms, the way the filmmakers intended them to see it.

And if they needed a marketable plushy just have it be where Starboy has no true shape but starts developing a more humanoid one the longer he remains on Earth or have it be where he turns into a star plushy in daylight and loses his powers. God they literally had a plushy and couple doll in one and just threw it away.

@viviennemorgan7217

5 ай бұрын

or maybe star comes up to magnifico to ask him to make him human, all because he fell in love with asha the princess or apprentice of rosas and as both star and asha got closer, they fell in love with each other.

@annieandelsieofarendelle3294

5 ай бұрын

@@viviennemorgan7217 That would be cute too and Magnifico drains him of his magic.

@viviennemorgan7217

5 ай бұрын

@@annieandelsieofarendelle3294 yeah

@MewDenise

5 ай бұрын

They could have had the cute starboy and the cute star plushie at the same time

@PMIII

5 ай бұрын

​@@annieandelsieofarendelle3294 damn, the story would've been SO good! 😙🤌

Honestly the whole thing with the demo song and animatics gave me some massive "biggering" vibes from the lorax. What's with these big companies having the early versions of movies having more depth and a meaningful story only to get botched? Great video btw!

@suspiciousstar7547

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, but I think Wish got way more botched than the Lorax did 😭. They fumbled the bag with the message but at least it had some memorable moments.

I love how the Wish fandom is absolutely carrying this film. Watching the fan animatics has been a lot of fun.

@RascalEntertainments

5 ай бұрын

Agreed!!

Producer: “Hold up… did you just say it reminded them of… Jack Frost…? What Disney movie is he from?” Artist: “Well that’s just it sir, he’s actually not from our company, he’s from DreamWor-” Producer: “No”

What would’ve worked more was if the king and queen were both evil and Asha was their daughter. Then Asha would’ve grown up thinking that keeping the wishes was the right thing and star boy had to help show her the right way. Also it would add a lot more to Asha’s character by standing against her parents since for all the other Disney princesses with evil parents they’re always stepparents (Lady Tremaine, Evil Queen, and Gothel). So the fact that a princesses actual parents are evil would’ve been so cool. I get wanting villains like the Evil Queen back but Magnifico should've been the sympathetic villain that is way too overprotective and wants to protect everyone due to his own trauma Also I wouldn't make Asha quirky I mean she can definitely have somethings but not as much as they did. I would make her more similar to Elsa and Mulan personality rather than Anna and Rapunzel. You could even keep the seven friends but make them people who have already given up their wishes so they're basically just miserable and Asha has to help them. Simon could still have his betrayal but add onto why he wants to be Magnifico's knight. He could be a friend that has a crush on Asha so he wants to become a knight to impress and protect her I would also change Asha's color palette and name. Purple reminds me too much of Rapunzel and Isabella. I wish they stuck with the orange red color palette from the concept art. In my rewrite I would also name her Luna instead of Asha since Luna means moon and the movie is about stars Also why is the kingdom of wishes called Rosas that means Roses it would make more sense if the kingdom was called Estrellas which literally means Stars.

@dajplayer

4 ай бұрын

I agree with most points but I think it's okay to make her default color purple as it contrasts yellow (which is most likely Starboy's color theme). She can wear orange/yellow as her special dress up gown with Starboy changing to blue/purple sparkling clothes in their dance/couple moment sequence

It’s always marketing with Disney. I think people will LOVE the star boy character. They didn’t even try. That’s on them.

@gamestation2690

4 ай бұрын

What kind of a character would Star Boy have been on his own terms? From what we know, he only exists to grant Asha's wish, and has no motivations of his own. He'd have no legs to stand on. He's hollow.

Nice video! Honestly, looking at all the fanart and stories for Star Boy and Asha makes me even more irritated and disappointed this wasn’t the movie. I seriously don’t know what the heck Disney was thinking scrapping this and Amaya as a villain. Imagine if Amaya was basically using her husband to come off as a “holier than thou art” kind of villain?? Disney is notorious for writing beautiful love stories for nearly every movie they’ve made! Getting really sick of villainizing romance or making it look like a weakness. And I don’t understand why Star Boy would’ve come off too similar as Genie, I honestly find it hilarious and a massive missed opportunity for another humorous male character like Flynn Rider.

@Muna-Jlore0997

5 ай бұрын

From the executive, they say making a woman a villain is offensive. Ursula, Cruella, Malevicent, Gothel: Are we a joke to you?

I'm so glad animators and artists are reviving the old concept by making art and animation. Including me. I am working on a drawing of starboy lol.

There’s a KZreadr named Pinkiemachine who plans on rewriting the entire movie. She calls it “Alicia and the Kingdom of Starlight.” It’s got the villain couple and Starboy, so it should be a blast 😁

@just4729

5 ай бұрын

We can see her juuuussssst here 7:42

I don’t understand how it looks like this they already have the perfect 2D and 3D blend animation that they used for the short film Paperman.

we could have an evil villain couple and a starboy but i hope the dvd will come out and gives us deleted scenes and extras that weren't in the final product of the film.

@viviennemorgan7217

5 ай бұрын

so that everyone can be happy

Tbh, I don't think it was necessary to officially get rid of the cute star, just because they has a "Rocky" type of personality. But it would been more cool if the star were just the sidekick for Star Boy and Asha.

What Disney SHOULD do is give us the story WE the audience actually want. We WANT Starboy! We Want Asha/Starboy romance! We WANT Evil Power Couple! Magnifico and Amaya would be truly in love with each other and share their power with each other, they're just evil in their actions against others.

I also wanted Magnifico redeemed purely because of Chris Pine 🤣🤣🤣 Loved this video! I did see movie, but I prefer what the fans are doing with it!

They could’ve had the marketable plushie and the second coming of Jack Frost from Rise of the Guardians. I’m just saying

3:25 The wild thing is that if Starboy was included in the film, this trope would've been completely subverted. Because Magnifico's goal around the last third of the movie was to take Star's power, Starboy would've been the one in danger, and Asha, who is the female protagonist, would've had to save her boyfriend rather than the other way around.

I'm glad I'm not the only person who thought of "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang" when I heard about the concept of an evil power couple. I also thought of G.I. Joe, because Destro and the Baroness are awesome. Oh, and also Guardians of Ga'Hoole. Remember those books? Two of the main villains were Kludd/Metal Beak and his mate Nyra, two very evil barn owls.

Studios need to realize that films should be assessable to ALL AGES.

Sometimes I wish (no pun intended) that Disney had shown the original concept of the movie first and then showed what they went with instead and everyone bullied them into using the original concept, basically a reverse sonic movie.

I have a Pinterest page with Wish as a section and all the Wish art I’ve added isn’t even from the official movie XD

2:21 now I'll unhear that when listening to that song again

When you mentioned the king and queen from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang I got really excited! Great minds think alike.😄😊

There were so many cool ideas in the art book, like with the star boy and the villain couple. We could have gotten an evil version of Gomez and Morticia Addams!

11 yr old cousin went to see this to the movie theater… As he said “ it was the most boring hour of my life “

Any other Disney film that was bad: well ok just another one Wish: WHAT THE HECK! WE NEED TO FIX THIS

I just don't know why disney had cut it out, they had a guaranteed bread winner movie on their hands

@karensaya9401

4 ай бұрын

La excusa de ellos fue que Starboy era muy parecido al genio de Aladdin 😞 por ser un cambiaformas

Y'know how you get them knock off variations of every big disney/animated movie you find at the dollar store? This may be the first time they're going to surpass the original.

Yeah. I'm planning to work on a fanwork of the movie.

I think if Walt Disney was frozen and woke up for the hundred year anniversary movie that is Wish, he would just cry. God Disney was beautiful, if only we could have both the raw authentic creativity and passion as well as the newer, less sexist messages😔 I understand that they do need to take profit into account when making their movies. They’re a business creating gorgeous CGI animated movies that are expensive, and they obviously need to pay the writers and artists(though they probably aren’t getting payed great anyways). But they can still do that and not toss away all the love and care otherwise what’s the point in continuing this useless cycle of creating something they don’t care about to make money to create something they don’t care about to make money to create- etc etc. it hurts to see especially as an artist myself. Disney needs to start listening to their genuinely passionate and creative artists and writers more. I think they’d benefit greatly. To clarify, I’m not saying Disney is bad or anything like that, I truly love tons of their newer movies like Encanto and the, less new, newer movies like Tangled, Brave, Moana, etc. I just think they could be so much better if they cared a little bit more. Wish being the perfect example of this😔 If you’ve read this whole rant, hello! Thank you for reading, stay safe, happy, and creative🫶✌️🤟

I don’t know what else to add on this, other than I watched stardust last week and…..yeah….just watch that instead of wish… Great video btw

If they wanted a plushie they could have gotten a plushie, here’s my idea: keep him as the plushie until they go to grab the wish from the tower, he sees all the people happy in the wishes and wants to be like them so he takes some of their features and becomes more humanoid, Asha freaks out obviously as magnifico walks in (hopefully not singing, or at least singing a good song) and then star would struggle to walk in his new form as they both try to cram each other into the elevator thing, maybe some romantic tension because they are so close to each other. BOOM! marketable plushie AND a hot new character that everybody will simp for

Nah, they should make Magnifico bad to the bone and not pitiful at all. He could have been that sexy hunk villain but nooope. These exists no nsfw art of him anywhere due to his personality being such a turn off.

Whenever I think of villain couple, I think of scarlet overkill and her husband from the minions. I feel that would be really cool too.

Did you ever find out that Disney did use At All Costs in the movie but in the dumbest way?

7:41 "Alicia and the Kingdom of Starlight" Honestly, that sounds GREAT!

I haven't watched Wish, and the only part of it that hooked me is "At All Costs" which is a song can be interpreted as a parental love song. And I've stumbled upon that song on TikTok!

the final design for star reeks of marketable plushie syndrome to me

@Muna-Jlore0997

5 ай бұрын

Those things never sells. Not even goodwill willingly to take them.

@gamestation2690

4 ай бұрын

So?

Petition to remake wish's story as a community

@Unresolvedissues101

4 ай бұрын

@@gamestation2690 it still sucks

@Unresolvedissues101

4 ай бұрын

@@gamestation2690 subpar tastes then

Ya I also agree like bowsette wapeach and now star boy like really 😒

@sokunthyvong4695

5 ай бұрын

Ideas of concept art that would have been but never 😔

If you want a musical where the female protagonist looks up to the male king like ruler of the land she lives in, and that ruler takes her in as his apprentice and calls her “the daughter he never had” only to be revealed to be doing devious stuff, causing the female protagonist to turn against him and swear to take him down. Watch the musical Wicked. This is actually the third time Disney has copied that show. First there was Frozen, where Idina Menzel plays a girl with magical powers that isolates her from everyone else, and then when people see her and her powers as a threat, she declares in her power ballad, “I may be alone but at least I’m free.” And then there was Maleficent. Where they took the premise of “Tell the entire life story of an iconic female villain that recontextualizes her actions as not being evil at all.”

Wish deffo felt more like a kids movie than a family. It feels no different from Despicable me 3 or Planet 51

Great to celebrate all these creators making amazing work

Blame the executives not The animators

Your use of Thanos for this is totally fitting!! XD

wow

Ohh woah

I had to agree with you

Disney really doesn´t understand what People want if they tought that People would like a Luma more than a Tumblr Sexyman

Don’t wanna sound like that one person, but… is there any proof about Starboy being Asha’s future boyfriend or something? I mean… soulmates can come off as in many meanings. The only thing I know is that Starboy was going to be Asha’s grandfather and he had a name related to “Arendelle.” I’m hoping to not cause trouble…

@calliecature

5 ай бұрын

There are many concepts in the wish book. Star looking like a younger version of Asha's gramps is one of them. Starboy and Asha being love interests are not confirmed but is suspected despite the song writer saying they wanted At All Costs to be multi purpose song that can be used at weddings too. I've watched the interview that showed a clip of Starboy and Asha escaping the queen and her men. The producer said they cut it out because they want Asha to be able to things without help which I think is hogwash.

@missfimbleton

5 ай бұрын

You're all good. I certainly don't mind a bit of intellectual discussion as long as everyone's being respectful and chill. And what you've said might be true! Soulmate could be referring to the platonic sense. I think fans just really latched on to the idea of it being romantic because it's been a while since Disney has done a good romance in their animated movies at least.

@bowseritis2864

5 ай бұрын

@@missfimbleton I’m not actually bothered that they didn’t include romance, but there was sure a LOT of missed potential that could’ve made this movie a true 100th Disney legacy.

@missfimbleton

5 ай бұрын

@@bowseritis2864 this is very true 😔

@darriongeorge5137

5 ай бұрын

It had several concepts for star, one of them was being asha grandfather reincarnated/personified or aomething like that , an another was being a love interest for asha

99.9 of them hasnt seen the ACTUAL MOVIE ONLY CLIPS AND SAW THE ART BOOK. AND DISNEY IS ACTIVELY SUPPRESSING ANY POSTIVE REVIEWS OF THIS MOVIE.

Gonna be honest, making the star a generic human with a love interest with the main character is even worse than what they went with.

@Turtlemmd

5 ай бұрын

What they went with is ass. I'd rather they go with the original concept

@baalfgames5318

5 ай бұрын

@@Turtlemmd At least the star is mildly cute and original that just another human with a love intetest.

Yeah, I'm in the "The original idea was way better" crowd too, its become a hyper fixation as of late for me. 😂 Who can blame these people for being pissed? They had an original movie that combined all the great parts of Disney's movies into one, while doing something new, with a unique love story, villain power couple, incredible parallels between the heroes and villains and 2D ANIMATION! It sounded like a true celebration and a story a century in the making! Hell, I loved the original so much, I posted part of a deleted scene on my channel from its first ideas! They really should've stuck with it, it would've been a global phenomenon! kzread.info/dash/bejne/pKafsbKxh9aqgs4.htmlsi=qvzSG-E01EHuMaX3