Without creation humanity is pointless.

@jamesadamgleason9471

Ай бұрын

Re

@habadababa31415

Ай бұрын

Then keep on creating

@ssoshred8839

Ай бұрын

​@@Noname-lw6hp tell that to a crow

@finlandiasinapuros3969

Ай бұрын

God creates. Humans do it as well. As long as creation processes occur, creativity will thrive.

@hllyenaylleth9576

Ай бұрын

That's not right

Accept my obsolescence in the shadow of AI? Sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.

@dangerrayy

3 ай бұрын

2001 reference?

@daveman961

2 ай бұрын

​@@dangerrayyand a very nice one!

AI is not God and never will it be a God.

Nah this should be regulated and if governments don't step up now and do it it'll be worse for the world. Specifically for art AI it's not IP. It's non copyrightable. In my opinion, since it steals art from real artists it should be watermarked. Put it to a law that AI image generators like midjourney must watermark their content as AI art. I'd be content with that, no one getting sued or anything, just showing things to the public for what they are. I'm tired of spending a week on an art piece just for someone to ask me if I prompted it. Why are you making an argument that's basically in defense of techbros? It's stupid to say "lets just let this continue unregulated because its new". Thats precisely why it should be regulated, existing copyright laws have too many loopholes since they werent written when this technology existed. Whatever though, you might be an "agent of chaos" or whatever edgy shit you choose to identify with dude but you're literally kicking away the ladder for upcoming artists. I'm not some fickle fucking leaf in the wind that blows about, I see a problem I want it addressed. This is currently a massive problem for me. I'm just starting in this industry and the market is saturated with cheap, stolen, crap. I also can't put my own art online now without worrying some techbro is going to steal it. But yeah dude I'll just go with the flow...

@NickGuy0320

2 ай бұрын

If youve ever listened to him talk before he’s constantly trying to tell other artists to give up on trying to make it

@brooLmao

2 ай бұрын

Bless you, we will find our way eventually

@cruddddddddddddddd

Ай бұрын

Luddites were complaining about the steam-engines or whatever in factories way back when, and it's the same thing now - for some reason, artists and writers, we all just thought we were above it. We ain't backing up the clock. You can't unring the bell. The way AI pops stuff out, it's similar to how human beings do it, and all you creators know what I'm talking about: you take a few different cool things that have inspired you and mush them together to create a new cool thing. Or you just try to create a new riff on an existing theme or idea. It's not rocket surgery - it actually is easier than that. That's similar to how AI pops out it's stuff. Same concept. It's a good tool for artists to use as references, I think - a great tool to kinda help visualize something you're having trouble with. I don't love it, no, and I can't stand AI-generated art - it is ugly. But I'm just saying, it's here to stay.

@blobymcblobface

Ай бұрын

@@cruddddddddddddddd if I'm a luddite how did this comment magically appear online? Let me see where to start picking apart your comment. First, AI is analogous to how a human being does creativity MAYBE but okay can I go look at billions of images in a few minutes and compile them? No. So it does raise an ethical question, thanks. And I'm sorry but why are you so anti regulation? You're saying we can do nothing about and it's here to stay. Seems to be a self fulfilling prophecy! I'll continue to posion my art with nightshade and glaze, push for regulations, and crowdfund lobbying efforts. You can I guess do nothing if it makes you feel better.

@bluecandyart8596

Ай бұрын

It can't be regulated man, watch.

Ai will never replace that feeling when you're in your flow just being the paint brush of the Gods.

@RunescapeWhack

4 ай бұрын

Yeah. But the feeling of paying less/nothing for artwork is better

@vogledweer2978

4 ай бұрын

Its nice to Tap into the collective unchonchusness...

@hologramghost5331

4 ай бұрын

Yeah becasue AI doesn't do shit without a set of humans hands behind it, not yet anyways.

@kitlow2970

4 ай бұрын

no one but the artist cares what it feels like to create art. what you refer to is masturbation.

@hologramghost5331

4 ай бұрын

@@kitlow2970 OK Luddite, time passes, things change, do you think new mediums were not gonna be invented? Watch as we create the future of Art LMAO

Is being an artist and having all of your work/portfolio offline a thing ? I feel like some people would appreciate buying a piece or supporting an artist who you can’t google whatsoever.

@ollifant0168

4 ай бұрын

Sounds like an artists dream if you ask me.🤤

@natzos6372

4 ай бұрын

many artists are not online, people have always said to be careful what to put on the internet

@rko2016

Ай бұрын

kinda, some smaller professionals that do commission work have a small portfolio as a taster and it doesn't have to be EVERYTHING you've ever done. just a way for people to see what they can get.

@PelicanCanCancan

Ай бұрын

Cara is a new art social media thingamewatchit that tries to block itself from ai searches. Not sure if it works..

@bbcvscj

25 күн бұрын

no it's not a thing. not for professionals at least

I think AI is a reminder that the only thing you have as a human is your consciousness, Not the skill of your profession, not your feelings. But the fact you exist. And that existence, Is what separates our body from death.

@narly138

4 ай бұрын

This is also what will separate human art from ai art

@vogledweer2978

4 ай бұрын

Humm... I used to scur the Earth for knowedge, I thoght in a spiritual sence I will carry my knowledge with me. But as a Gnostic even our knowledge will be stolen from us after death, via a mind whipe Becuse of the "Energy Grid" the old empire put up... This is a prison planet, that any alien spices is free to dump unwanted souls here, this explains and unwanted excess of any human behaviour. Go ahead question what I put forward, I am testing myself, via teaching and repetition you can learn and remember...

@phatdawg1

4 ай бұрын

feelings too yes. AI doesn't have feelings. Our consciousness is what allows us to have feelings. its apart of our human-ness...

@Aymen19827

4 ай бұрын

Also freewill unpredictibility Power(if you have it ) And we can learn multiple skills while ai can learn few stock fish wont be good at vedio games wich arent chess even if we give it control Also can ai make ai ? Is it possible ?

@saladz3657

4 ай бұрын

Direct felt experience

Dave made his initial fortune on gambling so he doesn’t gaf 😂

Are you asking the right questions?

Agent of chaos sounds like an ancient bargain Bin PlayStation game

I get the “adaption” point that you are making but imo theres a big difference between adapting and giving up completely, sure we can let things roll but that would prove that we dont have that control anymore. If we do try to take a stand against ai then it shows that even if stuff like this happens us as humans will take action, and if it doesnt work at least we tried..

@biocykle

Ай бұрын

A good move to make: learn to use Large Language Models really well.

@CrniWuk

Ай бұрын

@@biocykle And what good would that do, if you actually like doing art and being a creative for example? Most artists out there go in to art because they love the "act" of creating something. Beacuse they love, what the algorithm "does". I don't know. That's like telling a chess player that he should use a chess computer playing his games as a sort of adaptation. Besides, the whole point of those large language models is that EVERYONE can use them. Regardless if they have the skill in painting or not. So there is not much that you can really do here, as the whole target of those models is to make humans as rundand as possible. We are the horses here. Horses can not "adapt" to cars.

@biocykle

Ай бұрын

@@CrniWuk I didn't say anything about using AI for artistic purposes... I said the first step towards adaptation might be learning to use the current tools as well as you can. Not to make art with them, but to 1) not get left behind as the world changes, 2) optimize / automate all your routine tasks to have more time for creative work and 3) know your enemy if you want to have a fighting chance resisting the tech. There are countless ways to utilize LLMs for your benefit... that do not need to mess with your artistic practice in any way. TL;DR - AI ignorance / illiteracy will be risky in a few years' time

@CrniWuk

Ай бұрын

@@biocykle Depends I think. For a lot of professions "learning" the tools won't do much as the target is automatition. That's like telling the horses they should adapt to cars. But they can't. Because the whole purpose of it was, in the end, to make them "redundand". It might be beneficial for some, I am sure. But I don't think the majority will actually see it as that. Not to mention that we're already seeing an increase on pressure at the labour market. There will be a hell of lot of people which will be left behind here ... and I don't expect it to be pretty. Because those people won't go anywhere. And that will cause some serious political and social instability. Or how did someone once explain it, robots don't pay taxes nor do they consume.

@biocykle

Ай бұрын

@@CrniWuk No, it's not like telling horses to adapt to cars. It's suggesting humans are better off if they're familiar and savvy with the disruptive tech than if they aren't.

If you create something using AI can you still call that art?

you are right, there is no going back. the question is what are we going to do about it? we have keep some stability. if large proportions of the population will lose their job society will go in a very bad direction.

@ChristopherVossArt

4 ай бұрын

Decentralized communities. All power, food, and water generated on site and managed by community members. Drum circles will be coming back in a big way.

@natzos6372

4 ай бұрын

Society is just as much about change as it is about stability. We are headed into a society without humans, the idea that we will procreate for generation after generation seems silly at this point. We have build society on power and infinite growth, if it means that something other than a human grows faster and is more powerful, it will replace us. I wonder if the reason that we have never met aliens is because every advanced civilization achieves an AI that is so intelligent that its knowledge eclipses all the information in the universe, it woudlnt need a ufo to explore because it already knows the universe to such a fundamental level that it can simulate in its mind how everything everywhere is already.

Just like a lot of technology the issue with ai is more the business use of it than the technology itself. So I kind of get the feeling we’re shouting at the wrong cloud sometimes by focusing on online ai artists rather than how arts adjacent industries will use it.

Unplug neo

@leonrobson6881

4 ай бұрын

TAKE THE RED PILL

The only reason Lars Ulrich sounded like a cry baby is because people were still buying his music and he was still incredibly rich. For every David Cho who gives up on making his comic because Ai can do it there’s someone like me who’s gonna do it anyway…. And people will buy it.

@solidzak3732

2 ай бұрын

@@kcsnipesno, i didn’t really make myself clear. I’m going to draw a comic regardless of whether ai could do it. My point was David shouldn’t have given up on it.

@flowerbloom5782

21 күн бұрын

Yeah I like art for the act of creating. Though I think it’s just difficult for people. I mean not everyone is solid or has a following like David Cho. They are just starting out to break in the industry. I’m sure many would have loved to do art for a living but as of now. Many I think are going to have to study trade jobs or another profession.

You’re quickly becoming one of my favorite KZreadrs. Your channel is underrated.

On the point of not having the drive to make something because ANYBODY else can make it in their own special little way, that's always been true, and AI didn't make that a thing that just suddenly became achievable. This happens with EVERYTHING. There would be no superheroes without superman. I do whole heartedly agree that people need to accept and adapt, but the sediment that working on a comic or making something (like this video) isn't worth it because apparently now ANYONE can make your idea, is silly. Everyone has always been able to make your idea, with or without AI they could do it, and make it in their own special way with everything they want. At that point though, its not the same idea. Different perspectives are interesting, sometimes even more than what someone would come up with when they THINK of what exactly they want. Truthfully, most don't know what they want until they've seen or found it. Some one else could make this video and make it 100x better in their own vision, exactly how they wanted to make it, and yet, you still made it. Why put the effort into this editing and careful explanation if someone could make this video in their own special way, with advice that they like better than your advice? Your perspective, and the way you make things does matter, not anyone can just do what you do with AI, until you make the thing, then they can copy it and twist it up, but you still got to be first. Don't stop creating, don't give up on projects, we don't know what the future holds but just live in the present and take every opportunity you can. Make stuff, it doesn't matter if someone else can make your idea in their own way, they've always been able to and always have. Adapt to your situation, but don't give up on those fun or deep ideas just because someone else can do that too. There's a difference between could do, and did.

lol the picture of the robot in the courtroom running his cross examination of the witness

Ai is not God. or a God 😂😂😂😂 It's made by humans, remember?

I cant afford teeth thanks David.

In the end, if you truly love making art you’ll find a way to make it. The dream of being a famous artist in any medium is probably dead but maybe that’s a good thing in a roundabout way. Like if there’s no profit or egotistical motivation to do art maybe human art will be more honest. It’ll just be art for arts sake. So even if AI is just one big reason out of the millions why you shouldn’t pursue art, just remember there will only ever be one reason to,, and that’s the fact doing it makes you happy.

@ArminSemsar-og1ft

4 ай бұрын

That part is stupid cause how the fuck do corporations expect me to buy their shit if I ain’t got no money lol. In the end they can take all our jobs but people are gonna have to do something for the basic economy to function.

@ArminSemsar-og1ft

2 ай бұрын

Maybe lol, idk even know what to expect from the world anymore. Homeless people seem to have a lot of fun, tho.

@flowerbloom5782

21 күн бұрын

Yeah I had a moment where I was disillusioned that ai is the best or better. I heard many say man why draw, this machine can do it for me. I thought that was lame cause I love the process. I think ai helped me to take off that expectation of having to be the best.

I would still love the pizza man comic! Cause in the end what will become rare is personal real story's and art. Altho you might use AI to create it. it's still your creation brought to life.

I love your videos man. I'm so glad you're uploading your thoughts on your channel. Thank you!

Transmission received. Dosume

dang, that was a fantastic video. thank you

In AI there are things called "base models". That's the beginning point of what those models will create. Without the original artists input, there is nothing but noise. AI is nothing without human input, and I don't think we can stray too far from that without people seeing the art as disingenuous. These base models are constantly in need of refinement, and the genuine artists are both the seed and fertilizer. We still need you, David. This AI stuff is (hopefully) just an extension of humanity, not an abolition. If it is datacentric, or technical, AI wins....but human ingenuity and creativity is still absolutely UNMATCHED. Humans are god, and AI is but a very powerful tool that we have constructed.

art is human; human is art

Napster made Afroman go vintage viral.

We're gonna need a parameter around that pizza

This is an extremely refreshing and clear-eyed take.

did he say agent of chaos or asian of chaos? they both fit.

It will never experience human emotions

Music since Napster has suffered. Art post AI will suffer. If the normies can do it then good luck.

i can't agree with your accept

Human creativity is like that special vibe you can't copy and paste-AI may help with ideas, but it can't match the depth and diversity of human originality. Our creativity thrives on spontaneity, emotions, and real-life experiences that make it uniquely ours.

@dangerrayy

3 ай бұрын

And A.I is an almagation of human creativity

@uwotmate-d3m

2 ай бұрын

Nonsense. Humans just copy and paste and mix together other people’s bullshit.

@Jay-uv5xg

Ай бұрын

the thing is that its getting really good now and its getting really close to that

David used ai to find my dad...thank you David.

This was an extraordinary take. Just when I thought I couldn't like David Choe any more, this makes me realize how much we can learn from people like him

i luv this choe

David! Do you mind me to translate it in to a different language as a video? The topic you just touched is more real than ever!

Humanities beauty lies in its imperfections. And those imperfections are unique to humanity. AI cannot generate imperfections the same way. It NEVER gets the nuances right

AI has no soul though so it doesn't worry me as an artist, however I don't make that cashish as an artist, and another thing is popular forms of art aren't concerned with soul they're only concerned with$$$$ they've been operating like slick marketing schemes for decades not what will people like not what will people relate to not what will further the cause of humanity, but what will people buy. So perhaps we've been fkd for years already. Gosh darn the bastards

find a way . the ages change

The infinite 🍕 👨 was so sick!

hmmm, Not the view i thought Dave would take. Intresting view regardless. Something i have wondered and debated for a while is what is art?. And the more AI takes over the more i believe art is a glimpse into someones soul, an expression of oneself. Like the great Bruce lee said "honestly expessing yourself, to express oneself honestly, not lying to one self and to express myself honestly, now that my friend is very hard to do" . Can AI take your soul?. I believe AI cannot and will never be able to do so, as it does not have one.

Ai won’t stop people from picking up a guitar or a paintbrush or some tools.

Lars is a amateur drummer AT BEST when directly compared to any competent death metal band, especially if technicality is involved. George Kolias didn't learn double bass from silly dance routines or sports..... He put in DEMANDING and painful hard work.

dude idk why but I believe you. May you live interesting times as well. Dosume.

Think im in the minority that still burns cds.....

Honestly as much as AI does disturb me to a degree I do agree that the way to combat AI is to accept that its here to stay, and in a way thats ok as AI while it does have the power to take away the job of an artist, it also has the ability to be used as a tool, weather if its allowing us to conceptualize our art in order for us to execute it in our own way or helping us cut the fat when making art, like for instance, AI helping with stuff such as coloring an entire animation stuff like that. However my main concern is the simple how do we as artist adapt to that, this is something that does concern me in the long run by I do have hope that we can do that in a way, because as you said, Humans just have to adapt. Not to mention because AI is a new technology I feel like things such as regulation or enforcement of things such as AI detection is important.

@flowerbloom5782

21 күн бұрын

Exactly. It’s better to adapt with regulations. If we don’t then people will do whatever they want. I dislike people tell artist to adapt when that’s all they do. Artists have to get second jobs, do gigs, manage their own business and hustle. But now, it’s like artists protecting their rights is somehow now seen as rigid.

Ai can enhance art if u use it to correct coding and mix it with virtual art

I understand about your lack of desire to produce the comic now. I finally released my first song and video right before AI really took off, but even though I have more in the works I just feel like there's no point if it's not adding value to the viewer/listener. I suppose one could view their art as a hobby that is done primarily only for oneself like singing in a car, but I have to be honest the thing that always hit me the most was that I felt like whether viewing or creating art I was tapping into one of the coolest/deepest/most interesting parts of humanity, and even if I can't communicate the best with humans face to face, I can look at a sculpture from 1000 years ago and receive a message from its creator that is both more abstract and specific than anything else in the world.

Every single video is just an absolute banger, as someone who works in the creative field. I embrace our AI overlords, there is no stopping this and it will allow me to make the art I have only dreamed of being able to make

AI has intelligence, but does it have feelings? Interesting times indeed.

Was this written with the help of the chaos agent tool ?

AI is inevitablely becoming more "aware", but will it ever have fun?

DAVID CHOE, changed life, bad, youve met me,steel reserve 211,help please, sober, umm I'm listening

I love the thumbnail so mush

Everything is in danger of being stolen all of the time. Protect it as long as you can... but except it when you can't anymore.

Wait we're not tryna sync with AI?

I got a great anime idea that I would love to work with you on

Redbar is watching. This is fool's behavior. Asian of Chaos - what an R

light and love man!

Ball point pen is more painful then woodburning but worth it cus the print is easier to make

its true, acceptance is better than Ulrich. If anything we have a playbook for what's next. how did music get broken, did it? if yes continue to page 3. page 3. we can create the Spotify or Apple Music of art. artify...well that exisits so something better maybe Spartle. we'll work on the name, maybe ask ai for some good business names. then we can follow their blueprint. step by step its all good we'll get where we want to go could be we already got here where we are going so we no longer need to go anywhere where we are is good, that was easy.....its that old saying "embrace the suck" or maybe what happens next is not anything that's happened before, maybe this revolution is reinvention of humanity, and we don't need to sell our art to make money to make art and occasionally eat mushrooms and then make art and you friend shows up and asks if you wanna make cake but its coming and going around. community through chaos. simulation glitch reconnect with the inner kingdom horray happiness.

@flowerbloom5782

21 күн бұрын

Yeah but the point isn’t to always suck forever. Yes things have always changed but how are we going to address it? Some artists just want the use regulated more.

Such a great vid! Highly underrated content!

ai is the easiest god to unplug

Im happy that so many people are unscrubing to this ideal and are actually fighting against it instead of taking the lazy way out. We can do this dont listen to this dude's bullshit

@2265Hello

2 ай бұрын

Honestly if we don’t do anything no way Gen AI is gonna progress ethically

@biocykle

Ай бұрын

What does "do this" mean?

The intellectual intelligence is casually expressed like a champ ! New subscriber 🎉

100% agree

The very least we should all agree that AI is only trained on artwork that artists have given permission to have AI trained on. In other words, artists should have the right to consent on whether their artwork is used or not to train AI.

❤️‍🔥 David, this is the exact right attitude. ✊🏻

Dave. My mind is going.

Can someone please tell me what DOSUME means?😊

@ChristopherVossArt

4 ай бұрын

Don't sue me

@Findthatyeti

2 ай бұрын

@@ChristopherVossArt lol 😆

Italian music industry just disappeared after this video

The thing about Lars is that he is still selling records and filling concerts and not really losing money but gaining it while his stuff is sometimes stolen...its proven with many studies...sales aren't changing that much

ai is another tool in the creative toolbox and people will always want to listen/watch content created by other people

All hail the machine god. All hail our glorious creation made deity.

so I’m supposed to accept that I’ll never be successful doing what what makes me happy for the rest of my life?

@kaeg.7800

4 ай бұрын

yeah, like that is pretty bleak. but I have hope that people would want art that comes from a living soul. AI isn't giving what tech bros think it's giving. like why would I want AI generated images when I could make it in another AI image generator?

@J.13333

4 ай бұрын

Had a major breakthrough finding direction in my life. The next day Sora was announced and i was reminded once again that by the time i would find success, AI will have already surpassed what i want to do. This stuff is mad depressing lol

@MrKubahades

4 ай бұрын

honsetly, honestly, AI ain't shit in terms of making art. A young artists goal used to be to get as good or better then your biggest inspiration. Every artist i look up to is a 1000% better than some talentless fuck using an Image generator

@RunCircusRun

4 ай бұрын

how is that what you took from this?

@DirtyOatmilk

4 ай бұрын

I think you might have missed the point of this vid. Get ahead of the curve - use AI as a tool to make art

I got a feeling when ai takes power they’ll know all the songs and movies you’ve ever downloaded for free. Not that it really matters but it would be kinda funny

Perfect! Chaos forever!

AI can ask questions

The Metalica vs Napster thing doesn’t work because Metallica were the wealthy ones with all the advantages. We’re all the little guy here and AI is made by wealthy corporations that want to control the “labor”/means of production for literally everything and we might be crushed by those corporations

@finlandiasinapuros3969

Ай бұрын

the origin is the same as in every single industrial society paradigm outbreak: inequity, wealth accumulation and scarcity. Nonetheless, maybe things do really need to happen in order to better understand (and overthrow) the enemy(ies). If history doesn't repeat itself, things would be all too perfect, so there's no point in growing naive resentment on a world-scale industrial novelty only by its origin. Art and music understood as fields of prodictive labour and profit sources are literally an invention of "the wealthy" as well, but we're not dismissing art and music because of that, right? It's worth the shot leaving things unfold. "If you don't know yourself and the enemy, every battle will be lost" - it's in The Art Of War or something like it.

@finlandiasinapuros3969

Ай бұрын

productive*

I"be been a mixed media physical artist all my life I'm 50 & i I just got into Ai art a few months ago & swear it gives me reason to get put of bed and I'm the least technically amongst my friends but the biggest nerd , insane history of art from N.Y, essaywritter , had exhibitions , sold art and studied in London for 7 years, in 3 different art schools i never ciece to learn every day and Ai art is just an other part of Art History ....well it will be in the future . Duchamp and his urinals weren't considered art by most ... But here we are .... I'm not kidding: Ai gave my childhood back and possibly my senior moments . To come ❤❤❤ I love you David Choe.

I struggled with this concept as a designer and found peace when accepting the inevitable. I still design, but i don't fixate on having my professional and financial life at risk. I just do what i can and am contempt in whatever the result is.

Is Asian of Chaos a villain character from Pizza-man comic? 😄

ReducE Capitlism?

@OMGUKILLKENNY2

4 ай бұрын

If you hate capitalism, support automation in all forms, including AI.

Very skewed look at things…. but a great overall message of adaptation

I want to read your Pizza Man

I'm thankful for AI. It gives me something to point to when people tell me what I should draw. Do It Yourself: D.AI.Y.

Im compelled to write this name here, knowing it will mean something to someone.. Geraldine Cummins 😶

great upload. ur ny favorite korean role model

what happens to ai if electricity goes down

It's not a wrap. It's just getting started. ❤❤❤makerworld is coming

I am also an agent of chaos. 🔥

Imagine working with/for david finding cool shit going on in the world to show him I would battle lars ulrich in the thunderdome for that sheeeeeeeeeeeesh

thats really nivce

basadísimo.

A.i. will enable uncreative losers, to finally develop their boring idea that nobody cares about (i'm talking about me). It'll be hard for people who don't suck, to get noticed in the maelstrom of artificially generated garbage, hard to get rich making art (it was never easy). Honestly we shouldn't be making art for money. If you aren't doing it because you love making things, being replaced by a robot is the best thing for you. At least now, flashy technique will become meaningless. In the future, fidelity, realism, style, and design won't be worth squat. It will have become ubiquitous, meanwhile interesting ideas and fetisization of handmade objects will become the coin of the realm.

Handmade will always trump tool assisted art so if u can draw very well your art will be 10x more valuable soon