How Arcanine Beat Power Creep
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Hisuian-Arcanine is dominating the post-DLC metagame, even with the existence of Landorus-Therian. Will H-Arc continue to have success even after DLC2 brings us Incineroar? What do you guys think!
@ben_mxller
8 ай бұрын
H-Arc might still have a niche due to its offensive capabilities, but I suspect incin while take over unfortunately. I hate that stupid thing
@marcoland120
8 ай бұрын
@@ben_mxllerit's not bad incin meta is just good over every thing else
@trick6pokemon624
8 ай бұрын
I saw someone post the calc. Banded HArc at -1 has like a 87% chance to OHKO incin with Head Smash if it lands. Incin doesn't threaten anything back
@snakecake-mw7vw
8 ай бұрын
H-Arc will prevail despite Incineroar because of what it offers, that being bait. Incineroar has the Steel/Fairy problem, typing being way too good to Terastilize, H-Arc no.
@ZeBanded
8 ай бұрын
Amulet harcanine could go crazy with a howl user
“How Arcanine was power crept by Hisuian Arcanine”
@iantaakalla8180
7 ай бұрын
“Why Intimidate is a good move in doubles”
@Israel_Augustine
3 ай бұрын
“How Arcanine was power crept by itself”
@pincer2885
Ай бұрын
@@iantaakalla8180 "why intimidate is an ability not a move"
I find it funny that an alright pokemon managed to make a resurgence by getting a worse defensive typing
@JeremyCuddles
6 ай бұрын
Cause of Tera. I don't see H-Arcanine being particularly viable once it's locked at Rock/Fire typing.
@lillyie
Ай бұрын
combined with the fact fire and rock are great offensive typings(hits 6 types for super effective and no two types resist the combo)
@sythrus
Ай бұрын
@@lillyie agreed 100% rock is probably tied for second best offensive typing with ground (#1 is ice)
@Feliciathedoll
Ай бұрын
But I can argue that fire/Rock is a great offensive typing. So while Fire/Rock isn't a great defensive type per say, I think hisuian Arcanine can dish some serious damage. Heck it can do even more with its rock head ability since it doesn't take any recoil damage and it can mostly sweep anything quite well.
@sythrus
Ай бұрын
@@Feliciathedoll yeah, i feel like the main reason that the rock type is bad is that almost all of the rock type Pokémon are defensive or generally slow. Doesn't help that stealth rocks basically counts as having constant rock type coverage throughout the entire game. Even considering the few faster rock types, lycanrock has low stats and no secondary stab, aerodactyl is lacking in attack and in a good flying stab and minior is kinda a gimmick. The only two really good speedy rock types are Terrakion and Iron boulder, terrakion having a better offensive typing and iron boulder having an accurate rock type stab. Oh, and i guess ogrepon has its rock type form which is alright In infinite fusion im running a weavile rampardos combo, and it absolutely shreds through teams with sheer force and good stats, seeing as it has one of the best offensive type combos in rock ice.
I love seeing my favorite Pokémon get talked about. Arcanine was my favorite since red and blue. Now H-Arcanine is simply beautiful becoming that true legendary he is in my heart. Truly looking like a real foo dog.
@prashantgoswami2
8 ай бұрын
He is a good boy, i love him so much.
@Summertime_sadness777
7 ай бұрын
Yes
@QuaestorL
7 ай бұрын
Arcanine is my favorite as well, there's something really cool about giant dogs that breath fire.
Once a good boy, always a good boy
Clicked thinking this was going to be a video covering H-Arc's recent Regional success and wanted to hear your spin, and was very pleasantly surprised it extended beyond that. Really enjoyed the historical breakdown of Arcanine, looking forward to more videos of this style.
That "he does exactly what I do, but better" meme culminating with hisuian Arcanine is so sad yet funny at the same time. I will always have a soft spot for this pokemon. He was the only reason why I would ever do a playthrough in the original Pokemon Red when I was a kid and not pick Charizard.
When the world needed him most, he returned.
@ben_mxller
8 ай бұрын
Are you talking about Ray or Arcanine?
@gligarguy4010
8 ай бұрын
@@ben_mxller Yes.
@tigeryumyums9407
7 ай бұрын
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@spookysquirtle
8 ай бұрын
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@pokezach494_
8 ай бұрын
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8 ай бұрын
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@lukebalmer7109
8 ай бұрын
halway through the vid i was like holy shit this editing is so good what
@pokezach494_
8 ай бұрын
@@lukebalmer7109 Shoot dude that means a lot, thank you
Rock Head was the buff arcanine never knew it needed
@ThePokegeek5000
8 ай бұрын
(except hisuian arcanine still uses intimidate over rock head most of the time, even when using both flare blitz and head smash)
@Dandiyama
8 ай бұрын
@@ThePokegeek5000 thats wild to me cuz at that point use regular arcanine if your going to use it the same imo
@tobbelobb
8 ай бұрын
@@Dandiyama Stab Rock Slide on a choice band set is the one thats won the Regionals, with Intimidate. Hits like a truck
@LOgo-cv9ur
8 ай бұрын
Tera contributes to why hisuian arcanine is better than arcanine right now. Other than type weaknesses, overall hisuian arcanine is a better intimidate user than regular arcanine.
@ThePokegeek5000
8 ай бұрын
(i would bet that without tera arcanine would be the superior option because that hisuian defensive typing is ... certainly something)
One of my favorite things to watch on KZread, even if it's only once a month or two, is Summoning Salt's history of speedrunning things. They are told as stories as much as anything, and I'm already getting that feel here. I feel like you might be able to both document the history of things like this and can tell stories like that. Even if it's less often, I'd love to see stuff like that. I don't know if the audience is there for it, but man, I hope so.
11:25 😂 Including Baz Anderson’s face and video while showing off Jamie Boyt’s team is just funny
My favorite doggo. I just like the thumbnail how the Hisuian version just YOINKS the trophy out of the Kantonian.
I love historical breakdowns of VGC and the meta games throughout the years. Interesting to see how Arcanine has been used and why it’s been overlooked throughout the years. Great video!
Arcanine is my favourite Pokemon, full stop. I love the Hisuian version being an unstoppable chainsaw of rocky and fiery death. But I have a soft spot for my OG Kanto child.
@colbychong
8 ай бұрын
Haha I like that you said full stop.
@Superboologan1
29 күн бұрын
He's just such a good boi :)
Saw the thumbnail and I knew this was gonna be fire
The Utrecht regionals saw Harcanine and articuno being the champion with only 1 incineroar cutting top 8 so that’s something
95 base speed will-o-wisp + intimate can never be slept on. And the fact you can plop it down in-front of iron hands, flutter mane, rilliboom and chien-pao without any issues makes it even better.
@breloommaster12
8 ай бұрын
HCanine actually only has 90 Speed, btw
@Jaccobtw
8 ай бұрын
“Without any issues” ok lad
@ashmarten2884
8 ай бұрын
Normal arcanine. HArcanine is overrated.@@breloommaster12
@kpic9054
7 ай бұрын
95 base speed will-o-wisp + INTIMATE can never be slept on. Okay... What kind of doggo is that?
@PinsuBha
7 ай бұрын
Intimate? Leave the poor dog alone you creep!
In Gen 3 VGC (Orre Colosseum), Arcanine is actually pretty strong despite no physical special split. It's currently ranked at the top of A tier, because of its ability to OHKO the king of the format Metagross and intimidate every other physical attacker (besides Regis and Pinsir) as well as having rare tools in Helping Hand and Extreme Speed. Even though it doesn't have any other notable support options yet, the sheer power of its Overheat lets it put in work in nearly every matchup. At max SpAtk, it can OHKO the likes of Tauros, Gengar and Medicham. It is the second best intimidater right behind Tauros which sits in A+ tier.
You forgot to mention Arcanine-Hisui victory in senior World Championship.
6:10 I'm 90% sure Eruption was exclusive to Heatran from the *other* spin-off game, Pokemon *Ranger* because I don't think MD ever did those sorts of tie-in pokemon, even though Ranger did a bunch of them, including an entire mythical pokemon in Manaphy.
Great video! Editing was fantastic
This is a great video! You can see the effort (time and money!) put into it. Looking forward to the channel growing
Great video Ray! Looking forward to see what you've got in store for us 🙏
Neat analysis video! Thanks for the uploading!
Just wanted to say gain now that I've finished, I REALLY like this type of video and the presentation. Excellent work.
To be fair, rather than beating power creep I think Arcanine dodged it. Hisuian Arcanine is also a power crept version of Arcanine as well. But when Arcanine couldn't escape power creep, it saw no use.
Great video, Ray!
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
I like the new editing! And of course your insight on vgc are on point as always
@pokezach494_
8 ай бұрын
I’m glad you liked it!! It was a bit nerve-wracking editing for someone else for the first time, let alone Ray Rizzo himself
@aao8578
8 ай бұрын
@@pokezach494_ the recurring he's me but better meme was great lol 10/10 no notes
@pokezach494_
8 ай бұрын
@@aao8578Haha yeah I had fun with that one
Great video! He was quite literally the UNDERDOG of the Hisuian mons due to its x4 weaknesses.
Arcanine beat power creep because he is a good doggo
Great video! It was super fun and it was a blast to learn so much about the history of Arcanine! 😀
My favorite Pokémon! Thank u Ray!
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Wow who did this editing its top notch, give them a freaking raise.
I thought H-Arcanine was gonna be bad due to have 2x quad weaknesses to very common types. I was definitely wrong on that one.
I'm sorry, but I find myself unable to see different regional variants as the same pokémon. To me, a Kantonian Persian and an Alolan one are two completeley separate mons, and the same goes for Arcanine. Too different, sometimes in typing, stats... and not just looks. I just can't.
Funny how two cats are “dog but better”
I feel like giving him the Normal/Fire typing would actually be a really good buff for him. Not only would he get STAB extreme speed, but he would be immune to ghost-type moves and resist fairy, making him a great answer to Fluttermane.
Return of the king
I like Arcanine a lot. In singles play, it usually can't even make the cut for UU because it doesn't have access to Swords Dance or Dragon Dance to make it an offensive sweeper.
Gotta love arcanine original and hisuian.
Im not a competitive player so please feel free to educate and correct my ignorant butt, but isnt this how any and every pokemon becomes usable/unusable? By the game changing, rules changing, pokedex changing? Also, i would consider regional variants to be entirely new pokemon.
@p0oka261
7 ай бұрын
Some pokemon get buffs or nerfs which change them. Also while you might consider regional variants different pokemon, game freak doesn't since species clause applies to regional variants meaning they're viewed as the same pokemon by the game
Welcome back goat
Im suprised no mention of Arcanine being one of the soul abuser of burn up
More videos like this please 🙏🏻
me and my sisters used to play pokemon showdown with some teams, i remember sweeping them with flare blitz arcanine
Im glad arcanine got a comeback but man does it make me wish the hisuian form had some better color choices... the dark grey is for rock readability i guess but man would white look nice
Even if he does one day drop from the competitive scene, he'll always be the strongest in my heart
Hi Ray, I'm not American, but I've known you since I started playing competitively years ago, I'm very happy that you have a channel, hope to see you again with other competitions as a player. I still own your metagross event, however recently or was able to see your interview and I admire all the achievements you have made in your life between being a musician, your studies and achievements as a gamer congratulations, I would very much like to hear some of your I work as a music composer
So basically, Arcanine is the team that wins ice hockey at the olympic games or world championships a lot, when no NHL gamers are there.
@drewmalsack2806
8 ай бұрын
Yeah that was my thought, Arcanine "beat" power creep, but only when Nintendo decided to remove that power creep.
"Local big dog gets kicked to the side time and time again, has had enough"
I love how everyone dismissed Hisuian Arcanin because of the fire/rock typing, but is dominating competitive.
@darkz8004
Ай бұрын
You live in rock right?
The goat is back
arcanine walked so incinaroar could run
@bigfudge2031
3 ай бұрын
Incinaroar is the Pokemon on two feet (walking) and Arcanine is on all fours (running), so the analogy doesn't really work
How is it only today that I learn The Ray Rizzo has a KZread?!
Return of the GOAT
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16:27 it was at this time I realized: I was watching Ray Rizzo
Im a simple man, when Ray posts. I watch.
I love this best friend. It's so fluffy and adorable and [Tera Normal Choice Band Extreme Speed]
As of right now, Hisuian Arcanine is in Regulation E is 7/7 on Stream and 7/8 Overall! It's rock typing ain't just for show, it's also meant for all that gold it's winning right now! Let's gooooo!!!!!
Always tried to make old arcanine work in singles (mostly gen 4 and early gen 5), easily favorite gen 1. Stealth rock tho 😡. Glad its not been forgotten by gamefreak. Now we just need to bring the speed tier creep back in line and itll be a real powerhouse in singles
He intimidated the powercreep away
nice thumbnail homie, you should enter the 2023 pokemon illustration contest
Will Ray Rizzo be able to build a channel off the back of Wolfey? Well Rizzo definitely cheated more
Good boy, Arcanine.
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I love this type of content and the quality was great. I hope these take off. I'm looking forward to seeing more of them. I played vgc in gen 7 and I loved using arcanine. It was a great support pokemon but could also be used very offensively with both good power and useful coverage depending on the set. Casually it had always been one of my favourite pokemon, fighting for a spot with ninetales. With ninetales getting an alolan form that was also quite good I could finally use both on a team.
Wait RAY RIZZO?!
I run a choice band rock head max atk, speed, adamant hisui arcanine with head smash, wild charge, flare blitz and grass tera blast
FURRETT HE WALK
Thank you for this day thank you for being so kind help me and these people to better understand you
Never played legends arceus but I’ve used H-Arc on my solo fire and sand runs in radical red and he was a staple both times 🙌🏼 head smash/flare blitz would almost always OHKO and accelerock was CRUCIAL time after time
I find it funny that H-Arcanine has a worse typing than regular Arcanine, and yet is better in every way. It's just like base form Balziken being Better than mega-Blaziken.
I love how the pokemon that replaced arcanine b4 like gyarados and Landorus-Therian had 4x weakness so Arcanine went ahead and got 2 OF THEM😂
Even with Incineroar on the way I think there's a strong possibility hisuian arcanine can continue to be successful as even with lando that should deter it it's still having major success. When there's a rock slide there's a way!
Thank you aaron for making will o wisp 85 acc
Jamie Boyt looks so weird without his long hair
Nice thumbnail! Who’s the artist?
6:08 "pokemon mystery dungeon exclusive move" You got your spinoffs mixed up a little there, it was pokemon ranger.
5 for 5 baby!!
@pokezach494_
7 ай бұрын
I actually can't believe it... Ray wrote this script when it had only won a single regional after Worlds, and yet time and time again this video has been proven to become increasingly relevant
@YoJoRockThaBeat
7 ай бұрын
@pokezach494_ couldn't have said it better myself. None of us could have seen this coming. NONE. But I think things like this are healthy for the Meta. Suprises need to happen.
These pronunciations are giving Wolfe a run for his money
"How Arcanine beat power creep" By being helped along through limited dexes and being power crept by it's own regional form. Arcanine is my fav Pokemon, but it benefits heavily from Incineroar not being available until late in some gens. Same with Lando-T. And H-Arcanine benefits heavily from being able to Tera away it's bad defensive typing.
Arcanine is a good boi
Seeing as we have Arcanine-Hisuian, I believe Kanto Arcanine deserves a stats change, in my opinion Kanto Arcanine Type: Fire / Electric Ability: Intimidate HP: 90 Attack: 60 Defence: 90 Sp Atk: 120 Sp Def: 90 Speed: 110 - Thunderbolt - Heat Wave - Will-O-Wisp - Volt Switch Hisuia Arcanine Type: Fire / Rock Ability: Intimidate HP: 90 Attack: 120 Defence: 90 Sp Atk: 60 Sp Def: 90 Speed: 110 - Extreme Speed - Flare Blitz - Rock Smash - Wild Charge / Close Combat
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It really needs a mega evolution. Or a signature move or ability. Or a third evolution to the original. Or past and present forms.
Imagine using old school Rhydon with Horn Drill and Fissure. 1 hit KO moves.
How Arcanine JOINED powercreep.
How did you find my strategy so fast lmao!
Love you RR. Give me those sweet Arcanine facts while I 😴
Ray Rizzo vs Wolfey in scarlet/violet match i want to see
Wasn’t eruption heatran from Pokémon rangers 3?
Heatran's Eruption comes from Pokémon Ranger.
Best pup
Because it's THE legendary Pokemon