Animals as leaders debut album is still one of my favorites things in the entire genre

@7n1s7er

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only good animals as leaders album imo

@benjaminmarshall7046

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@@7n1s7er what

@MisterButterfingers

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@@7n1s7er I disagree lol, BUT it does stand in a league of it's own. It's probably the most honest and least pretentious.

@Killerbee_McTitties

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@@MisterButterfingers what do you find pretentious about the other albums?

@MisterButterfingers

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@@Killerbee_McTitties pretentious may have been a strong word, I mean it's more straightforward and focused on atmosphere whereas the albums after are much more technical.

Not about Animals As Leaders at all...

@elementsofphysicalreality

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That’s what I was gonna say.

he hit the nail on the head with that bit about re-recording things after demoing them, and how they lose their magic a little. That has happened to me so many times where I had an idea I thought was cool, went back to make it "better" only for it to not sound as good or as cool as the original version.

@MattPula

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@@Grimeyhoob I'd rather die 1000 deaths.

Misha is so modest and driven, it is inspiring. Also, Misha, I can hear your passion for Chaosphere creep in throughout P5. Love it

@thurmanmerman6173

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Dracul Gras licking what Elastic bled 😁

What you guys said about demos is so true. A good example is how different songs sounded on the Mean's End EP versus how they sounded on the Didact album. Really interesting to hear both of your perspectives on this.

Title had nothing to do with the video

The discussion about demos reminds me of when Audioslave's first album demos got leaked to P2P services. I remember preferring some of the demo versions of the songs. Particularly the solo in the Like a Stone, because the melody was simpler and more direct before Tom added more effects to it. But it's hard not to overthink things and try to make everything sound cooler, so I get it.

The New Reign by Born of Osiris is still one of my favourite albums to this day. Even though the production isn't the best, and it's a bit muffled by today's standards, it's still heavy as fuck and every song slaps. And I've felt "demo-itis" as he called it. I felt it just this past weekend. I'm starting to do updated demos of songs I recorded from 2018-2020, and one of the songs just doesn't sound quite right, even though it's better in basically every way. 😛

@dainarose8272

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The way The New Reign sounds honestly gives it character.

@MichaelSheaAudio

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@@dainarose8272 Yeah, it still holds up, it just has it's own sound.

There are usually elements in a demo that are better than album versions. It’s little things that make a big difference; but overall, they do improve.

Epic Fail is my favorite Bulb track. It might even fit into Periphery. I know you guys have brought old bulb tracks to life. You should definitely consider that song :)

Title isn't accurate BUT the talk about demo-itis was extremely useful/important to me. I've recently gotten just above the skill threshold where now I'm so obsessed with everything being perfect that it's literally stopping me from writing and recording music altogether. Going back and trying to re-record or in some cases even re-write songs from years ago always made the end result feel lifeless and it really bummed me out. It felt like a disservice to not present any given song in its clearest/best form but I see now the real disservice is not being able to accept the song as a flawed piece of art and letting that stop me from releasing it or even worse, letting that stop me from recording it in the first place.

Loving this channel dude

3:20 misha pretending not to love that he said “moment in time”

Perfect syncd tracks are good but they feel souless. The raw imperfections in a song gives it character.

I saw Periphery and Animals as Leaders during 2011 and I’m so fucking glad

Everyone's talking about the demo/early vs remix idea (and I love the sound of 2000s metal which would sound incredibly different today if they were remixed) but I want to bring up the problem that you'd think that at this point in the 21st century bands would have access to share their earliest demos and pre-label EPs compared to years before but even in this age of rights and streaming we still don't have access to the vast majority of early demos and EPs before bands signed any smidge of a record deal, and to me that's really sad.

Exactly! RE-recording isn't necessarily better, just different

Animals as leaders reminds me of Battles a little bit

The EP vs album dichotomy is how i felt about the Shutdown "Something to Prove" EP vs the "Few and Far Between" album. The way the EP was recorded was raw and hard af. The album just didnt do it for me.

I love the OG new reign by BOO

Animals as leaders favorite band found out about them from guitar wold I believe 2011

I Respect animals never could get into them

Nah misha is correct. The first 2 pheripery albums were just guitarists jamming. Real songs came from 3rd record and on.

@MrFRNTIK

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That's why I loves those first two albums lol. You can just feel the passion and fun oozing out of it.

Demoitis = inflation of the demo. 🤣

I always get these guys suggested to me, and I knew just by looking at them that it would be stuff I’m not into, but when I hear the bands they’re referencing I just can’t believe my ears. These are full-grown, adult men, at least my age or older, talking about Born of Osiris and Whitechapel? That’s stuff for 12 year old girls. They’re 35+ and still haven’t grown up and discovered actual metal yet? Tf is this deathcore crap they’re on about. In one way I’m disappointed but at the same time I’m not surprised because the cool thing to do in this day and age is pretend you like whatever garbage is out there and popular so you don’t look like “an elitist” or “a gatekeeper” (which are in actuality just inoffensive synonyms for “not a poser”).

@sakamoto8354

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I always get these guys suggested to me, and I knew just by looking at them that it would be stuff I’m not into, but when I hear the bands they’re referencing I just can’t believe my ears. These are full-grown, adult men, at least my age or older, talking about Born of Osiris and Whitechapel? That’s stuff for 12 year old girls. They’re 35+ and still haven’t grown up and discovered actual metal yet? Tf is this deathcore crap they’re on about. In one way I’m disappointed but at the same time I’m not surprised because the cool thing to do in this day and age is pretend you like whatever garbage is out there and popular so you don’t look like “an elitist” or “a gatekeeper” (which are in actuality just inoffensive synonyms for “not a poser”).

@mirkecWii

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What the fuck did I just read