How a single sentence in the Supreme Court's immunity ruling could upend Trump New York convictions
Legal experts generally agree that the scandalized Supreme Court's gift ruling to Donald Trump on presidential immunity is not likely to help him escape his New York criminal conviction on the basis of trying to claim everything he did was an "official act," but a less noticed line in the ruling could give Trump's lawyers another opportunity. MSNBC legal correspondent Lisa Rubin discusses with Alex Wagner.
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The american people shouldn't stand for this.
@jasonrod4523
22 күн бұрын
Something that has been law for decades? 😂
@MrMickey1987
22 күн бұрын
@@jasonrod4523 Nixon would like his Presidency back then.
@brucetidwell7715
20 күн бұрын
And what, exactly are the "American People" supposed to do about it? And that assumes that the only American People who count are the ones who want to see him in jail.
@fishybusinessco.8398
20 күн бұрын
Having our conversation with your aid,, doesn’t make it an official act signing something into registration or vetoing something now that’s presidential. This is not.
@user-io1sq2vm4g
19 күн бұрын
Just vote!💙
Main stream media needs to get the Epstein files into the headlines and keep them there.
@DonoVideoProductions
25 күн бұрын
MSM is too interested in getting and keeping maga cultists into their audience, so they are hammering Biden on ageism, and giving tRump a pass on everything.
@Reaper-cm4jr
25 күн бұрын
Naw, they don't want the Democrat names in that file to be revealed.
@AugieRockero
25 күн бұрын
@@Reaper-cm4jr or yomomma's
@_Cetarial
25 күн бұрын
@@Reaper-cm4jrWhy not? Don’t you think names should be revealed, both Dem and Rep?
@Reaper-cm4jr
25 күн бұрын
@@_Cetarial Sure, but the implication in the post was that it would effect only Republicans.
Yeah, two tier justice system. If you've got the money, you can get away with anything.
@johnalexander3169
19 күн бұрын
If you are rich and WHITE they crown you king.
@KnightsWithoutATable
17 күн бұрын
Two tier? He is literally using compromised Supreme Court Justices that are trying to create dictatorship in the US. That is an entirely different problem.
@MichaelParks-gs4yg
12 күн бұрын
😢😢😢😢
@Scarter63
11 күн бұрын
@@MichaelParks-gs4yg You must have the money!
@Scarter63
11 күн бұрын
@@MichaelParks-gs4yg I guess you have the money to evade justice!
Paying some one off isn't part of official duties and he wasn't even in office when he did it. So how can it be official business?
@kudr66
25 күн бұрын
One problem is that the payment came during his presidency and the invoice stated "legal services". But much bigger problem is that prosecutor used the line of evidence that depended on official acts (which is not allowed in case of immunity) despite many warnings and objections from the defense team. It was totally rigged against defendant.
@JohnWinchester3567
24 күн бұрын
It isn't some of his aides testimony they say were from his time in office and he has immunity for it.
@mikebaker6288
24 күн бұрын
How can it be a CRIME???
@PrimRoseLane
22 күн бұрын
@@mikebaker6288 Fraud is a crime.
@kencrisp2588
22 күн бұрын
IT WASNT
Allowing rogue justices to upend the rule of law is unacceptable in our America. Impeach them
@levimogford3202
23 күн бұрын
ok how
@Zetirix
20 күн бұрын
I haven't seen a law upended by them. Just because you don't share their opinions doesn't mean they need to be impeached. If you don't like it, run for office, and put in laws that people actually want instead of whining in a KZread video comments section.
@ruelabad8564
19 күн бұрын
@@ZetirixSame feathers corrupt together, Yes?6Yea,3Nay.Corruption.Yes?😂
@MichaelParks-gs4yg
12 күн бұрын
Lock him up
Meanwhile, the Heritage Foundation is a 501(c)(3) non profit , therefore in violation of federal tax code for involvement in the political process. Report them to the IRS
@jpathak6227
25 күн бұрын
And what is the IRS going to do? Heritage foundation 2025 will appeal take it to the SC and get thrown out. The system is rigid and not for the average individuals.
@DenisBurke-vb6vh
25 күн бұрын
Now let’s talk about the work of Democratic 501 c 3 s
@Reaper-cm4jr
25 күн бұрын
Guess what??? ALL Political Action Committees (PAC's) including THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE have 501(C)(3) status. So what is the problem if the Heritage Foundation is?
@kudr66
25 күн бұрын
Are you saying that all the Soros funded NGOs are illegal?
@mb9326
24 күн бұрын
meanwhile millions paid to b i dens for nothing but influence/
He commited the crimes before the immunity rulling. Doesnt that mean anything? What has happened to this country. 😢😢
Stop with the BS. None of us buys it.
Best "justice" money can buy. SMFH
Obscene... So now facts don't apply to someone, depending on their position, regardless of criminality? OBSCENE!
@Zetirix
20 күн бұрын
What do you mean, "now"? Obama deleted a teenager and never a word spoken of it, much less a trial.
Expand the court or impeach Thomas and Alito. This is ridiculous.
@richardc9634
25 күн бұрын
neither is going to happen or it already would have
@carollemieux5254
17 күн бұрын
Both. And do thorough investigations into the other 4 liars on the court.
....How is the SCROTUS ruling RETROACTIVE!!!?....
@billieg826
25 күн бұрын
Does the President live in a legal time machine ? Can he go back in timr to erase all of his guilty acts ? Throw the book at him. Let him spend the rest of his life in jail !
@Thomas-se7ht
25 күн бұрын
That's how laws work, genius.
@kelperdude
25 күн бұрын
Hopefully not, so barack can finally be charged.
@nicks-fix
25 күн бұрын
@@Thomas-se7htincorrect.
@Mr.Canuck
25 күн бұрын
How much money do you have? America has been for sale to the highest bidders for years, decades. Theres your answer.
The US legal system gets more laughable day by day. Retroactive laws are a US specialty.
@kudr66
25 күн бұрын
There is nothing "retroactive" on ruling explaining the basic constitutional doctrine called separation of powers.
@javiermigoya
24 күн бұрын
In a similar way that Cases get overturned and people are released from Prison and now have a right to sue for damages and time served they were not supposed to serve, due to new evidence that came out or in this case evidence that has to be ignored or thrown out because it no longer applies to the case, There is no Grandfathered in when it comes to cases, In this case Judge Merchan ruled that he was Guilty of 34 counts sorry "Jury" lol, Now the ingredients used to make this Soup / Case for a lack of a better analogy were mislabeled therefore the Soup you were served (Verdict) is no longer The Right Soup / The Right Outcome for this case
@clydecash5659
24 күн бұрын
@kudr66 There is no separation of powers. Now all we have to do is get the wrong guy in the Oval Office and it’s a dictatorship.
@nunyabiz1780
23 күн бұрын
Morning Joe and Lori Klausutis's child would be 23 years old.
@ralphscholz9533
21 күн бұрын
@@javiermigoya There was no “New evidence”, or any change in evidence in this case. It was the SCOTUS saying “We don’t care about guilt or innocence. He gets a free pass, because we owe him.”
Hush money case was not a presidential act. He wasn’t even president
@rhymereason3449
25 күн бұрын
He was President when he signed the checks and falsified the business records - which is what is conviction is about... but agreed, not a Presidential Act...
@mb9326
24 күн бұрын
Hush money isn't a crime.
@simonannemarierussell4147
24 күн бұрын
@@mb9326 covering it up is
@mb9326
24 күн бұрын
@@simonannemarierussell4147 Why cant you all see the left is tryin to orchestrate a global takeover?
@Notthisguyeither
24 күн бұрын
@@simonannemarierussell4147👈 dem employee
it`s unconstitutional to submit evidence of guilt in a court case because it will make him look guilty. Make it make sense.
Some ARE above the law. The mistrust in the system is only growing it feels like.
@edg3048
23 күн бұрын
Should be pretty evident to everyone. Rule of Law NO LONGER APPLIES IN THIS COUNTRY! So when does JUSTICE kick in? I mean REAL JUSTICE!
@forgottenheritage2845
22 күн бұрын
Growing... Trust is gone!
@sandraknowles7853
19 күн бұрын
Thank the supreme Court for that!!
@JaimeWulf
19 күн бұрын
Which is the underlying effect some hoped for... 🤔 I'm sorry, but I do not see how breaking the Law can be considered performing official duties in any way... But the majority in the SCOTUS is their for one thing, getting their way... Term limits and a Code of Ethics is long overdue...
Utterly ridiculous.
Campaign finance violations are not official acts
@kudr66
25 күн бұрын
This is not the problem here. The problem is that prosecution used line of evidence that included official acts despite numerous warning from the defense that it can't be used because of immunity. Both judge and prosecutors simply ignored it. And this is the result.
@CraftyGrandmaDem
21 күн бұрын
@@kudr66 This NY case was held before the immunity case. So all these rules the corrupt s court made up are new and came after the NY trial was over.
@kudr66
21 күн бұрын
@@CraftyGrandmaDem Where did you get that BS from? Sc just interprets the existing laws. They don't create a new rules. And judge knew the law and knew that the conviction will be rendered invalid if he allows the precluded evidence. So don't blame sc for the mistake in NY court.
Our legal system is a complete joke.
@DenisBurke-vb6vh
25 күн бұрын
Using it the way you are is a complete joke
@dustinmetz8283
25 күн бұрын
🤡
@dustinmetz8283
25 күн бұрын
🤡
@doningraham916
25 күн бұрын
With the Imperial Trump SIX!
@kudr66
25 күн бұрын
Just the some prosecutors and judges are. They have been warned about it from the beginning by defense team. It was their choice to ignore the warnings and break the constitution during the trial.
This is insane.
I feel so unsafe living in my own country
@kelperdude
25 күн бұрын
Yep. This country has gone so far down in just three and a half years.
@HairOnScreen
25 күн бұрын
How can we be safe when there are people out there who are reporting hush money payments as legal expenses as oppose to campaign finance expenses to hide another unspecified crime? What has the world come to!
@Mr.Canuck
25 күн бұрын
..and this is just a baby step, just wait for November on-wards. The nation is in serious trouble to say the very least.
@jeffhampton2767
25 күн бұрын
Are you moving to Canada 🤔
@DCGreenZone
25 күн бұрын
Fracturing this country is exactly what Kim, Putin and others want to see. They are counting on it.
Thank you, Merick Garland for not bringing charges right away. This could all have been settled by now.
That might have been true had this occurred in federal court but it wasn't. Also this was still a private citizen.
@kudr66
25 күн бұрын
Federal or state, it doesn't matter. And the payment to Cohen for legal service happened well during TFG's presidency. But the problem isn't in that payment. The problem is that the prosecutors used a lot of evidence that depended upon official acts despide multiple warnings and objections from the defense team that such evidence would violate his immunity. And because judge ignored all warnings and overruled all objections, the whole case has to be dismissed.
@lynnrunningdeer7364
25 күн бұрын
@@kudr66 uh no. Only part of what was used after it stole the election was used. Also the judicial system is not a legislative body of the government. Strange how most don't know this but then again when civics is only required for citizenship and those who took and passed would know this. It's way past time that the other two branches of government call them out! For that matter the Senate as well🤬. It's also a common misconception that the last word resides with the non supreme court. When you base misconstrued opinions on factual based matters this is the same as the military following unlawful orders. Seems like there are too many people who are willing to be complicit with this unlawfulness. This has always been the biggest downfall of the Democratic party. The go along to get along instead of doing what's correct🤬. No one wants to vote for someone who only halfass defends them😡.
@jannmutube
24 күн бұрын
---- < Also, as Glenn Kirschner of Justice Matters noted, "Trump wrote the checks from his PERSONAL check book. So, even writing the reimbursement checks from the Oval Office was not a core Constitutional duty or an official act.
@lynnrunningdeer7364
24 күн бұрын
@@jannmutube I didn't know that he said that. I wasn't aware of that fact, so thanx for the information😁.
@hairtoss7975
24 күн бұрын
@@kudr66 Like what?
At least in South Africa they have a constitutional court which is above the Supreme Court and the whole country is not held to ransom by 6 unethical justices.
@levimogford3202
23 күн бұрын
you think it's ethical to abort a fetus because you feel like it?
@JimmiAlli
23 күн бұрын
@@levimogford3202 would you have the baby no matter what? It is a slightly more nuanced issue than just feeling like it.
Please do not let this happen. Have some respect for common sense justices. Trump is guilty.
@ryblack5032
25 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
@karenflowers7155
25 күн бұрын
@ryblack503💙💙💙💙💙2
@Rick-qf5de
25 күн бұрын
Send in the Federal Marshals , and lock him up.....
@orcuttnyc
25 күн бұрын
@@ryblack5032 Anti American fascist !!
@user-cc5pq4yp8u
25 күн бұрын
They should do a study where they have trump supporters watch mobster movies/shows and see if they can identify the villain. Like if they watched The Sopranos for example, would they think that the FBI, judges, and cops are the villains? I guess they would 🤷♂️
Shame on those corrupt MAGA judges
@wadestanton
25 күн бұрын
Same for the Dem Judges that decided Scott v Sandford.
@kudr66
25 күн бұрын
Merchant and Engoron are dems, not MAGA.
@mb9326
24 күн бұрын
Oh we don't get what we want, whaaaa.
The privileged conversations were not the only evidence. The jury's work should get some respect from the Supreme Court
Lisa Rubin, exactly WHEN did you Go on the take? You have been sketchy for months.
There is nothing new under the Sun... it's just a damned shame that we refuse to learn the lessons of history... Aristotle wrote: "We come now to a criticism of the Spartan Ephoralty, a Board of Magistrates which enjoys Supreme Authority in matters of the highest importance. It's Members are chosen from the whole people, with the result that very poor men often find themselves elected to an Office where their indigence lays them open to bribery. The annals of Sparta contain many such instances, including the recent affair at Andros when some of the Ephors were bribed and did their best to ruin the State. Their power, indeed, is so great, amounting almost to tyranny, that even Kings have been obliged to seek their favour." "Impunity is the greatest encouragement of crime" Cicero 106 BC - 43 BC
@jeremiahchapman9288
24 күн бұрын
ironically, this would describe Joe Briben not Donald Trump.....
Your channel should probably focus on the Extreme Court and Tyrant Trump instead of kneecapping your own candidate after the primaries.
So how about Clarence Thomas 2023 free yacht trip to Russia and flown to Yusupov palace in Putin's hometown!
@jeffhampton2767
25 күн бұрын
Sounds like a fun time don't be so jealous😊
@rancher12121
25 күн бұрын
sc will soon be ruling, that is okey dokey
@mb9326
24 күн бұрын
Prob dem paid for
@Max14163
21 күн бұрын
@@jeffhampton2767 "Fun time"... like Brittney Griner had... Oh wait, I forgot, she has no control over US legal system and is therefore expendable.
@sandraknowles7853
19 күн бұрын
@@jeffhampton2767What in the world does a US supreme Court justice have with Putin? Corruption at the highest level!!
What is most annoying is these Media Geniuses are all assisting the Trump legal teams by analyzing all the possibilities to overturn these trials.
@Mr.Canuck
25 күн бұрын
Billionaires have always run the show.
@trishhunt4085
25 күн бұрын
@conehead210 That's precisely what I'm thinking. We've got the right-wing "news" media worshipping Uncle Don Don and the left-wing news media spoon-feeding them analyses and strategies.
@fintux
25 күн бұрын
By playing Devil's advocate, they become such.
@kudr66
25 күн бұрын
By reading from the defense filings?
@alexwalker5645
24 күн бұрын
Yes!! How dare they interrupt the fascism!?
I disagree with her on that one. Here's an example: emancipation proclamation. When that was given that blacks were free as slave it meant some of the previous laws that were previously enforced would no longer be. If 2 months earlier someone enforced a law and convicted someone, that was not overturned. The judge acted fairly according the law at the time of the trial. That's what happened. SCOTUS set no guideline to making it retroactive. None. If it's infinitely retroactive you can go back to Nixon and Clinton. By throwing the case you imply Merchan did something wrong, he did not. Don't give more power to the ruling that is already there. Even in appealing, they can't say he did something wrong in trial that's nonsense.
@calliephillips5042
24 күн бұрын
They didn't "grant" him immunity he ALWAYS had it. As have past President's and as will future President's. So he already had immunity before any trials. Supreme court interprets constitution law and previous ruled cases they don't write law, that is Congress job
@zk4761
24 күн бұрын
He didn't always have immunity or scotus would not have a need to make a decision.
@jeremiahchapman9288
24 күн бұрын
@@zk4761 wrong. The ruling was that presidents had it all along. Even though it was not clearly defined in the past he did have it at the time of the trial. His lawyers even argued that point to the judge during the trial. The supreme court ruling simply confirmed the truth of his claims of immunity...
@calliephillips5042
24 күн бұрын
@zk4761 Again, they don't write law the interpret, and so the "ruling" is what is already law by constitution. Congress writes law. So all the presidents have always had this protection.
@calliephillips5042
24 күн бұрын
@@jeremiahchapman9288 exactly
Stop your corporate BS! We want real NEWS that matters!!!!!!
They need to “Stop” wasting the Public Officials time, with these, “Con artist” and Hold them, “Accountable” for their, Wrongdoing!
@user-ei4oj4eu2i
25 күн бұрын
Yep. Biden needs to be put in an old folks home & allow a real leader to step forward!
@jamesmann9775
25 күн бұрын
@@user-ei4oj4eu2i We Winning ☀️
@AugieRockero
25 күн бұрын
@@user-ei4oj4eu2i and Russian trolls need to be sent back to the Ukrainian front!
@simonledoux8519
25 күн бұрын
@@user-ei4oj4eu2i Speaking from experience?
@kirstengrau1
25 күн бұрын
@@user-ei4oj4eu2i and you can go back to kindergarden. Maybe - just maybe - in the next many years, you will be ABLE to communicate with others. But I doubt it.
Well we all know where this is going ,,,trump gets away with it again,,,come on people vote him out ,,,tired of trump ,enough is enough
@trishhunt4085
25 күн бұрын
Sad, but true. Uncle Don Don will likely walk. It's so disgusting and extremely unfair.
@jeffhampton2767
25 күн бұрын
Vote red for president Trump❤❤❤
@susancaldwell624
25 күн бұрын
@@jeffhampton2767 did you read project 2025,,probably not,,your one of his poorly educated
@mikekelley2877
25 күн бұрын
@@jeffhampton2767yes, we will vote blue for President Biden.
@kudr66
25 күн бұрын
So much gaslighting and dems are getting away with it again. The problem in this case is that judge dismissed all warnings and overruled all objections from defense team who argued that evidence related to official acts would render whole case unconstitutional and would warrant dismissal.
I'm a foreigner to the U.S., but are one from a developed 'democratic' country. As probably with most people in every other country,.......ever,......two of our favourite national pass times, is to complain about the wretched state of our political system and the wretched state or our legal system. However, since the U.S. slipped into the alternative reality of the Magaverse, what I once saw as outrageous abuses of authority by our own politicians and judges, now seem like mere trivialities compared to what goes on in the U.S..
FFS!!🤬😤
@ryblack5032
25 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
Personal Business conducted while on the job is not considered Official Presidential Business... nor is it even related to the executive branch - even remotely. Its is an act that can get the layman fired from their job if done on any other job i the country. All it could possibly be considered is personal business unrelated to the executive branch or operation of the United States.
I'm so sick and tired of hearing about The Cheeto Cult Leader!
@veilmontTV
25 күн бұрын
if he loses we never have to deal with him again.
@body9800
25 күн бұрын
@@veilmontTVunfortunately he has family
@kelperdude
25 күн бұрын
That's all this place talks about is him and djt.
@krisrob648
25 күн бұрын
Hey on a positive note bidens ratings went up when he told everyone Donald Trump is his vice president. So you've got that going for you
@johnconnor1847
25 күн бұрын
@@veilmontTVTrump leads every swing state. He leads every poll in every category. His rallies are breaking attendance records in democratic strongholds like the Bronx.
🇦🇺💙💛✌ 🇺🇦 The world, especially Ukraine can only hope that Trump never gets anywhere near the White House again.
@kelperdude
25 күн бұрын
You don't want your war to end? How very odd.
@TooBadThatDidntKillMe
25 күн бұрын
@@kelperdude You want Putin to rebuild the Russian Empire, I get it.
@ollieox9181
25 күн бұрын
@@kelperdude Trump would end it - he'd just hand over Ukraine to Putin and say, "You're welcome." Then he'd hand over all of Eastern Europe. And then all of Western Europe.
@TelephoneToughGuy
25 күн бұрын
@@kelperdude: If Trump had his way, the war would end by Ukraine losing its independence. So no, not a desirable end for Ukrainians.
@JonathanSterlingUSA
25 күн бұрын
@@kelperdude they probably do not live there
Of the last ten recessions, nine occurred under Republican presidents. Over the past eighty years, U.S. GDP grew at an average rate of 4.1% under Democratic presidents, compared to 2.5% under Republican presidents. For more than seventy years, Democratic-led states provide more in federal tax contributions than they receive in federal spending, while Republican-led states receive more federal spending than they contribute in taxes.
@user-qv4ze8zm4h
25 күн бұрын
I know SF skyscrapers are selling cheapest (like at 10% of the original prices). No tax no tax ..sorry to hear bs.
@Eddy41020
25 күн бұрын
another sheep who repeats what's told..yes 9 recessions occured under a republican..now go google what a democrat president did prior..I'll give you a hint...fallout famous line
@DonoVideoProductions
25 күн бұрын
@@user-qv4ze8zm4hSo, fingers in your ears, singing "la la la" huh? Yeah. About right.
@JonathanSterlingUSA
25 күн бұрын
all lies, nothing but lies, forever lies
@DonoVideoProductions
25 күн бұрын
@@JonathanSterlingUSA tRump? Yes. We all know it.
I don't see how that ruling could upend ALL of the convictions. Most of what he did does not fall under the category of official acts.
If you sold pot and were arrested for it, convicted but yet to be sentenced, and suddenly pot's LEGAL... You would STILL have to face the convictions. What you did was illegal at the time. The fact that it's legal NOW has nothing to do with the fact that you purposefully broke the law.
@kaebz2064
25 күн бұрын
Bummer
@NewSocialistEraVideos
25 күн бұрын
Unless you are trump apparently...the MOST coddled defendant, ever!
@SammiBoiii
25 күн бұрын
I completely disagree with SCOTUS and Believe Trump should be sentenced. But Where i have to correct you is that, This decision from SCOTUS isn't stating what trump did is or isn't illegal; or it isn't stating what he did was illegal then but now now, therefore he's innocent. The decison made by SCOTUS is that, some of the evidence used to convict Trump is not legally allowed to be used, and thus this would constitute as a mis-trial. Basically meaning, If the Judge in the case is not ab le to find a 'safe' way to finalise the sentencing then he will have to legally call a mis-trial. I suppose the only benefit is that the Special Councel can re-try the case instantly and just hope they get the same Judge and Jurors with common sense that know crime when it's told to them. I am surprise Trump can just continue to keep finding scape goats and getting out of the grasp of the law. Reminds me of the saying... "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool twice, shame on me." Only if the vast majority of the American population could actually see their Cheeto King for who he really is.. The next Adolf Hitler... but more orange...
@DenisBurke-vb6vh
25 күн бұрын
Wrong
@garyking2622
25 күн бұрын
That's not the way the justice system works there's statutes of limitations on everything including murder
This simply is an admission of guilt, you do not need immunity for things you did not do.... thus any one still lying to themselves about Trump not being guilty, you simply are un savable.
@WyvernYT
25 күн бұрын
Trumpsters aren't pretending he's not a criminal.
@DenisBurke-vb6vh
25 күн бұрын
Wrong it is just evidence that was not allowed to be entered.
@kudr66
25 күн бұрын
It is admission that prosecutors and judge are corrupt. Defense team warned them that immunity doesn't allow them to use evidence related to official acts, but they rushed to conviction and ignored all the warning. So it was totally rigged.
@abrakkehakka1357
25 күн бұрын
“The evidence proved that I’m guilty… But the court shouldn’t have been allowed to used this evidence against me…” The problem for Trump is that one isn’t allowed to use two defense strategies. Either you aren’t guilty and you(r lawyer) argue why that is. Or you are guilty but have immunity, and you argue why. You can’t claim that you are innocent, but are immune if you are guilty. Another problem is that Trump should have put forth the claim that specific evidence couldn’t be used for a specific reason well before a specific datum set by the court. He didn’t do that in the NY trial. Then he could have had grounds for an appeal.
@kudr66
25 күн бұрын
@@abrakkehakka1357 This is no a defense strategy but reason to dismiss the case.
Retroactive? Nope!
Changing the rules in the middle of the game to benefit one side is in no way fair. Presenting those arguments is a blatantly obvious attempt to sabotage a legal and fair proceeding. The SCOTUS decision should have no bearing on this case as the trial was well underway before the decision was even argued. It’s not like new evidence has been discovered. Or even old evidence that is now allowed. Changes in the law should never be retroactive. If they were, you would have to re-try every legal case since 1776 in order to apply todays laws.
The Constitution says that ex post facto laws are not permitted. Ex post facto means "after the fact", meaning a new law cannot go back and affect previous rulings.
If all the REAL Americans vote we'll be OK
Sentence him to jail. He can appeal while on ice.
@stevestoll3124
25 күн бұрын
That appeal goes against the Judges record and can limit what cases he oversees in the future.
I like how they eliminated the crime/fraud exception Conversations about crimes is not an official act ffs
@sandraknowles7853
19 күн бұрын
That's what I always thought!!
But the hush money was paid BEFORE he was inaugurated.
They say ''Not all Republicans are racist''.....but I say ''All racists are Republican.''
@krisrob648
25 күн бұрын
That's a pretty tired talking point
@kelperdude
25 күн бұрын
you made the clan, though.
@krisrob648
25 күн бұрын
@@kelperdude they also came up with Jim Crow and fought for slavery during the Civil War.
@robertjohnson1681
25 күн бұрын
Just a little bit of filibuster trivia with regard to Biden's best friends and the role they played in civil rights. The record for the longest individual speech goes to South Carolina's Strom Thurmond the Democrat segregationist that filibustered for 24 hours and 18 minutes against the Civil Rights Act of 1957. That was the Congressional voting record Civil Rights Act in 1957, which created prohibitions against intimidating, coercing or otherwise interfering with the rights of persons to vote for the President and Members of Congress. Biden once called Thurmond his “closest friend.” Now it just so happens Biden was also good buddies with former KKK member Robert Byrd that also just so happened to filibuster the Civil Rights Act of 1964. In fact, they were such good buddies that Biden gave his eulogy. Biden himself had very segregationist ideas on busing in schools and is well known for his "racial jungle" comment… so it's no surprise that Biden praised Strom Thurmond as his closest friend as they thought alike. Biden worked closely with his buddy Strom when he wrote his crime bills that disproportionately targeted black people. True story.
@eufrosniad994
25 күн бұрын
What about Joe who did not want his kids grow up in a jungle and opposed desegregation?
It is time each state nullify the Supreme Court immunity decision and prosecute the SIX justices for issuing an unconstitutional immunity decision that violates the core principles of our constitution that we are all equal under the law!
@kudr66
25 күн бұрын
It is just the opposite. Look at "separation of powers" - this the base of democratic republic.
@murraymadness4674
19 күн бұрын
exactly, yet biden is a useless whimp and does nothing, he just came out with some useless campaign promises but actually does nothing about the coup in progress.
The change of law should not be grandfathered into decision made prior to the change.
Nope not official acts!
Your legal system was never worth much with its dependencies on money , skin colour and whatever mattered in the medieval times. But this SCOTUS... wow... incredible.
Sick system
this like W when facing one of his charges, had his retrumplican cronies change the law, then claiming that he wasn't guilty because it was no longer illegal. I'm trying to leave the country.
The man is not denying the fact of the case
Everything is an official act, it's now official
@DenisBurke-vb6vh
25 күн бұрын
No it is not you are just ignorant to what the fake news is selling you
How is filing incorrect business records an official act of the President?
@shivanandvp
25 күн бұрын
The supreme court made it unconstitutional to even use evidence of personal crimes obtained from official acts, which is crazy. Like he could have personally shot and killed a person and can confess to it to his cabinet during a meeting and that evidence cannot be used, despite the murder being a personal act. Absolutely crazy
@DenisBurke-vb6vh
25 күн бұрын
Conversations with staff , used at trial no good Michal Cohen testifying to conversations of official acts of the President , example Cohen testified that Trump would pardon him for lying to congress about Russian hoax . It I should have not been allowed at trial, as well as others statements. Trump asked for the hearing and/or wait till the SC decision but Judge Nercahan refused
@sheilacarter8469
24 күн бұрын
The Judge states that what the supreme court judges said was unconstitutional!
It wasn't the law at the time. Laws are not retroactive. A law applies while it is active. If it is repealed it is repealed for cases moving forward, not backwards.
Except you don’t know if any of that swayed the jury to vote guilty.
It's funny first he didn't do anything. Now it's oh he did it you just can't use the evidence against him
@kudr66
25 күн бұрын
Defense team warned both corrupt judge and prosecutors about it many times from the beginning and they decided to ignore it. It is not that "now" there is something new. You must be one of those "don't know, don't care" ds.
@levimogford3202
23 күн бұрын
almost like lawyers need to say and do things to protect their client, woah
@lf2856
23 күн бұрын
@@levimogford3202 I'm pre law. So I know that. But there is a way to go about it without completely lying to the court
Merrick Garland is our Neville Chamberlain
@marshalocker5475
23 күн бұрын
Nothing gets done
JFC! Such a happening never occurred with people convicted of marijuana offenses after the law changed.
Can't believe this needs to be said, but thank you for not having a huge yellow arrow over the thumbnail, and for not being SHOCKED. Guess this channel is for grownups.
@charlesfriscia7236
25 күн бұрын
Mentally disabled grown ups.
How ridiculous. A conversation with an aide is an official act? What act was that?
@kencrisp2588
22 күн бұрын
The act of BULL DROPPINGS !!!!
Who can take the supreme Court justice's seriously. As soon as their found to be corrupt they should cancel all their orders of imunity for Trump.
One of my favorite MT presenters. I appreciate your in depth explanations of the law.
Surely the doctrine of waiver would still apply? Immunity only attaches if the defendant pleads immunity at the right time on the issues in question. If the defendant doesn't, he has waived his immunity. As I understand it, Trump didnt plead immunity at all, or in time, in the NY hush money trial. Or if he did, he failed to appeal the judge's ruling that immunity didn't apply. Or if he did, he failed to appeal the appeal courts' rulings upholding the judge's finding that there was no immunity. Otherwise, the Supreme Court would have delivered a ruling on whether trump has immunity in the NY case, which the Supreme Court obviously has never done (its immunity ruling comes out trump's prosecution for totally different crimes in Georgia). Surely trump cant just start pursuing an immunity claim in the NY case after he gets convicted? The more so given that any immunity argument now cant plausibly claim the crimes themselves are immune from prosecution as official acts of the presidency, and can only claim a procedural error in the way the judge - who, to repeat, was not even faced with a live immunity claim - failed to make determinations on whether some of the evidence the prosecution adduced for context, in further corroboration of matters for which other evidence was already adduced, and which in itself wasnt even necessarily required for a conviction, should have been excluded as covered by presidential immunity. Not a procedural error to not follow the correct procedure for ruling on immunity when there isnt a live immunity claim.
@DenisBurke-vb6vh
25 күн бұрын
Trump asked for a hearing or the trial to be delayed till after ruling and judge refused and had trial. You have not been following this very closely.
@davidloveday8473
25 күн бұрын
What I wrote acknowledged that possibility. I said that in that case, trump didn't appeal the judge's ruling. Isn't that a form of waiver?
@DenisBurke-vb6vh
25 күн бұрын
@@davidloveday8473 you can appeal the ruling after sentencing not before
@davidloveday8473
25 күн бұрын
@DenisBurke-vb6vh actually, I've double checked and you are wrong. I'm right. Trump raised immunity in some way on two occasions in relation to the NY hush money trial. First he raised a limited argument about some aspects of immunity when seeking to have the case removed from state Court to federal court. The federal judge dismissed that application and had the case sent back to state court. He found that the limited form of immunity that Trump invoked was unfounded. And he explicitly recorded that Trump had expressly waived any argument based on alleged absolute presidential immunity (the kind he is now seeking to invoke now that he's been convicted). Trump did not challenge the federal judge's ruling. Secondly, long after the federal judge made that ruling and sent the case back to state Court, months after the expiry of the deadline imposed by the state Court for making any such motion, and only 3 weeks before jury selection, Trump attempted to invoke immunity both as a defence to the prosecution and as grounds for excluding certain of the evidence the prosecution wanted to adduce. Months out of time. And even longer after a federal judge's unchallenged ruling that Trump had explicitly waived any claim to absolute presidential immunity. Details available e.g. in the exhaustive summary of the case and its procedural aspects on the Just Security website.
@davidloveday8473
25 күн бұрын
@@DenisBurke-vb6vh what you can't do is fail to appeal a federal judge ruling (based in part on your own explicit waiver of absolute immunity) refusing to let the case be removed to federal court, then fail to claim immunity in state court within the clear deadline mandated by that court for any such claim, and then claim immunity at the last minute before trial and expect to be cloaked with immunity. The theoretical question of whether or not trump might have been entitled to the benefit of immunity for certain aspects of the trial, if he had invoked that immunity at all or in time (rather than explicitly waiving it and then trying to back track and invoke it after the deadline has passed) is irrelevant to the soundness of the resulting conviction. The point about immunity is that it's never an absolute bar to conviction. Only a bar if it's actually invoked in due order, rather than being waived. The concerned individual is always free to waive it, as Trump clearly did here.
If that immunity applies also to President Biden, then it is time for him to act.
@stevestoll3124
25 күн бұрын
Biden can act within his constitutional authority.
@lberghaus
25 күн бұрын
He won’t.
@jma7617
24 күн бұрын
IT applies to any president, STOP YOUR WHINNING, and focus on the facts, scotus didnt say It applies only to Trump. Its for all presidents. And he did act but failed.
@levimogford3202
23 күн бұрын
it does apply to Biden, but do you really think he has the cognitive ability to do anything? lol
Words have consequences!
HOW SCOTOS SPELLS JUSTICE.. T. R. E. A. S. O. N.
BUT THIS RULING IS FOR PRESENT PRESIDENTS AS OF JULY 2024 NOT BEFORE
@Mr.Canuck
25 күн бұрын
Surprise! SCOTUS brought their eraser to class today.
@thehappyclam3942
25 күн бұрын
This ruling is retroactive, it looks like there's going to have to be a retrial.
@niclewis9610
25 күн бұрын
No it's not.
@DenisBurke-vb6vh
25 күн бұрын
No it includes all presidents past and present, Matlock you are not
@kudr66
25 күн бұрын
This ruling only explained what >200 yrs old constitutional doctrine of "separation of powers" means. This is elementary school knowledge. Only a fringe minority pretended that it doesn't exist because it didn't serve their interests at the time.
If Trump gets this thrown out I’m done with this country. Forget following the law, if he doesn’t have to follow laws than I don’t either. Seriously, why should any of us follow a corrupt government?
@JonathanSterlingUSA
25 күн бұрын
What country are you from? Immunity is nothing unusual. It's granted to the highest officials all the way down to lowly police officers. The only reason it had to be spelled out for our president (whoever that happens to be at the time) is because no current administration had ever gone after their opponent.
@jeffhampton2767
25 күн бұрын
Are you moving to Canada or Mexico?
@FOURSTAR50
25 күн бұрын
The case never should have been brought to begin with you have hate your bias don't vote get deported with the rest of the illegals will you belong you hate your country
@simonledoux8519
25 күн бұрын
@@jeffhampton2767 What would be your preference?
Here’s an idea, make a motion or bid to the justice Supreme Court to find LGBT on ethical unconstitutional and criminal against humanity.
Given everything, if I were him, I would say, "It's above my pay grade," sentence Trump and let the appeals court sort it out.
What should be thrown out is numerous judges on the Supreme Court
MSNBC is about as useful for unbiased reporting as flapping you arms in the air as the plane nose dives.
Mistrust in the system may be justified. You will need to answer for this its all americans questioning it not just black or others .
No way!!! Was not the law at the time.
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You guys need to make a statement about the things that you have said which inspired what happened yesterday. You have said outrageous things for nine years now, and they came to fruition.
There's still enough evidence to keep the convictions in place
Snakes always seem to slither out of everything
You need to be worried about that sentence "He was denied due process, and his civil rights."
“Taints” his guilty verdict? Not because he is innocent but because he claims he is immune. And this is the guy you want to be President?
@kudr66
25 күн бұрын
Because the corrupt judge and prosecutors ignored all warnings from defense team from the beginning. They broke the constitution.
@levimogford3202
23 күн бұрын
yes id rather have the guy who can lower my bills without inflating my dollar be president, instead of the guy who's asleep at the wheel and being puppeted.
This is now beyond a joke!
And then you tried to "unlive" him....
He almost got a sentence today he couldnt come back from
These hit pieces didnt age well. Its almost like its evidence.
biden 2024 blue all the way
@levimogford3202
23 күн бұрын
tell me what specifically you like about Biden's policies, like what did he actually do that you liked?
The or for that matter any trial has to work with what was legal at the time of the crime and that was what was presented, The supreme court are wrong and have effectively turned back time as they have changed the rules that applied at the time, and that is ridiculous in any circumstances, its fantasy. The law is the law at any point in time and cannot be changed retrospectively.
Wait a minute. Are you saying each word in law is important, and that the saying "follow the letter of the law" has a meaning? Or that the Supreme Court doesn't rule over courts when they step outside of the constitution?
BIDEN 2024-2028 TRUMP 2016
@levimogford3202
23 күн бұрын
i think youre missing something there buddy
What about Clinton with the intern in the white house and is that official act and should be protected
@dominikvonlavante6113
25 күн бұрын
Depends on whether the president is Republican or Democrat. For Republicans it is of course a core official act, for Democrats it is obviously a totally private matter.
@richardc9634
25 күн бұрын
well what got Clinton was perjury, not the Lewinsky girl
You completely down play the Hope Hicks evidence which is clearly now exempt. That was a key piece of testimony that now has to be excluded. I am not sure how you could view that any other way.
If guilty. Change the rules. This is b.s.