This happened to me once while i was taking the back roads for some nice turns. What had happened was somehow the two wires that connect to the switch had burned through(im suspecting it was touching the exhaust. so what i did was tie the two wires together to bypass the switch, no problems since :)

Thanks to your video I was able to get my bike started after a swerve slide so I didnt get hit headon, hidden forreal. Thanks much appreciate dude.

Cool video, short, simple, to the point! I'm going to go see if this is my bike's problem. Thanks!

Nice Video Max! I had a simular problem and got lucky and found it but for those who didn't know keep this in mind for future steps to check. Take care Max!

thank you.. great vid.. simple n to the point.... cheers

@JT_Soul_Tha_God

2 жыл бұрын

I love when vids are simple and to the point. ^^

Thanks for the help. I wasn't even thinking clutch lever, I was only looking at the kickstand switch. Wire at the clutch lever came unplugged.

Thanks dude,Great vid btw,simple problem but this helps alot i was baffled at first

Yeah I know this one buddy happened with my clutch switch. I went all around learning about the ignition and charging wiring/circuitry to find that little shit :) also the previous owner jumped the side stand switch wires at the connector back up in the wiring. It'll bite me in the ass one day when I set off with the stand down tho. You're really good at explaining these issues dude :)

I actually bought an 01 zx6r for $800 and the kid told me it needed a starter relay. I got lucky and found one on ebay for $6 with shipping and bought it before I went to pickup the bike. Got it home changed it out and nothing. I looked at the clutch (an aftermarket with no clutch switch) found the wires and it fired right up.

Great help thanks worked on my2013 r6 thanks.

Having the same symptoms with my Shadow Sabre. Sounds like your advice might do the trick. Thanks

I am having this issue right now. smh I changed my kickstand due to the other one breaking and now when I put my bike down in first gear it kills the engine. thanks for the video. I am like really frustrated. I have assembled and disassembled my kickstand multiple times to no avail. I will try and look for the little "plunger" contraption tomorrow. haven't been able to ride for 2 days now and its so frustrating. thanks for the video. 2017 Honda CBR300R btw.

The neutral light switch is a little more complicated than a kickstand switch. On the ones I have serviced, they are like a cylinder with nubs on it, and when you shift gears it rotates around, and the nubs press on the switch to illuminate the neutral light. So, you could either bypass the kickstand switch by just cutting the wires and twisting them together, or break out your manual and find that neutral switch and repair it

@igotakai5644

Жыл бұрын

What if you're not getting any power at the kickstand switch or the nearest inline connector, does that mean it's grounded out somewhere further down the line?

@mrmaxstorey

Жыл бұрын

@@igotakai5644 Well either yes there is supposed to be power and there isnt for some reason, or there is not supposed to be power because the kickstand switch acts as a ground itself, maybe for your starter solenoid. There are 2 different types of systems

@igotakai5644

Жыл бұрын

@@mrmaxstorey Ok thanks I'll keep digging.

Thanks for the super quick reply. How do I drop you a sidebar note (I am new to posting on youtube)? I have watched the other videos. I have worked through some of the electrical troubleshooting; found a bad kickstand switch, used your technique to jump the starter and got that to turn

Its common on newer bikes, but as you can see they have it on bikes from the early 80s too

Happened to me once. I turn my bikes on the kick stand instead of doing a million point turn. Needless to say the kickstand bent on an older bike and it took me two days to notice it sat differently on it's kickstand

hidden gremlins around every corner

When that happens, the first thing I think of is the kickstand switch. You could put together a 'top 10' list of unique problems that happen only on bikes, and this would be #1. Actually that could be a very entertaining video, ha ha.

Thanks man was just checking out that on my bike also as it just cuts out sometimes when I’m out and reacts the same way as when the bike stand is down and I’m in gear. Fingers crossed 🤞🏼 it works. Great video.

@nelaco1

2 жыл бұрын

Did you ever figure out your issue? I am having your exact same problem.

@DeiseRebel

2 жыл бұрын

@@nelaco1 I wasn’t 100% what the remedy was but I did adjust the idle on the bike and that seemed to work and I think my inexperience at the time was an issue too. I think the odor was too low and it would cut out as I was dropping gears. Let me know how u get on with the idle

@nelaco1

2 жыл бұрын

@@DeiseRebel Thank you Deise, it could very well be the idle. It is very low. I'll try that next. The bike is brand new and with only 500 miles now. It is under warranty but I rather fix it myself if it is something this simple. Appreciate the quick reply! I'll let you know how it goes. If it doesn't change, I'll bypass the kickstand switch.

@DeiseRebel

2 жыл бұрын

@@nelaco1 Yea I checked the kickstand also and that wasn’t the issue.

@nelaco1

2 жыл бұрын

@@DeiseRebel that was it! Increased the idle to 1100 and it doesn't die anymore. Glad it was something this basic. Thanks again!

Hi MrMax. I was wondering if you could help me-I just picked up a '89 Radian and it has some issues. Any guidance on what is "right side up" for an oil sensor (is it how it sits in the pan? How can I bypass it? When I hit START, the headlight goes out and the oil pressure light comes on, then goes out- No action at the starter - but directly wiring relay and battery gets motor to turn. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks for great videos

Hey max, ive got what i think is a carburetor question for you. 81Kz 305 I cant get the idle to be steady or the throttle response good on the low end. I set the idle where it needs to be but after giving it some gas the engine idles higher then settles down after a bit. Second i cant get it to be responsive at low rpms. If i give it a little gas and steadily increse it, it runs fine. However when i get on the throttle it sputters and dies. Right now all the cables and air box are off.

Going to check and see if this could be issue in my bike. I dropped it on the i8ck stand side and it aint been running right since then

I don't find that feature on Skygo 125-3 motorcycle..my bike has similar problem you mentioned especially when the weather is very cold.

I've had some problems with ignition on my old Yamaha 1983 scooter. Finally I realized what was happening. There's an engine cutoff switch on the kickstand. Now some people say, your switch is not opening properly when you pull the kickstand up. However if that was true then why was it that when I left the charged up bike on the kickstand for a few days, the battery would lose its charge? So my answer to this was that when you deploy the kickstand, the cutoff switch is compressed, but over years of metal wear or wear to the switch button itself, that switch contact becomes less effective and starts to wear out. Then the switch is not properly depressed all the way when the bike is left for a few days leaning on its kickstand !! Then, I think what happens is that the bike is leaking electricity round the cutoff switch, discharging into the bike ground (the rest of the bike). Over a few days, you've run your battery down! Just now after charging my bike I started it up very easily, so I am pretty sure the problem is not that the switch doesn't open properly when I pull the kickstand up. (The switch seems to pop open as it's supposed to.) The real test will be to see if the charge holds for a few days of nonuse, in the new situation in which I've stuck a copper penny on top of that switch button on the kickstand base, then deploying the kickstand. That copper penny just adds pressure to the switch where the kickstand rotates to depress the switch. So now, the switch will remain depressed fully and will completely stop that circuit from leaking electricity to ground. So, if my theory is correct, in a few days, the bike should still be holding the charge on the battery properly. If I'm wrong, then the battery will have lost its charge again after a day or two. If that happens it would suggest I'm way off base and the problem is elsewhere. However I think I'm right. The way it started up this a.m. after having been left with the copper penny on that switch overnight, was perfect. It just immediately started, no problem. I think this is the solution for kickstand cutoff switch problems. Not sure how to do it without buying a new cutoff switch but I'll think of something easy. I can just stop using the kickstand entirely, only use the center stand when leaving it overnight. That's probably the best way to deal with it. I've cussed at it long enough, I sure hope I've got the answer now. I don't want to stick any repair money into this thing. It is a good bike for short errands and I really like it.

@JayDillon-mm6yv

3 жыл бұрын

I should add that when I left it overnight with that copper penny helping to depress the switch button, I was trickle charging the battery. See, the problem is not that the battery is no good, I think - the problem is that after charging, with the bad semi-off position of the kickstand cutoff button when I've got the bike on the kickstand, I'm "trickle-uncharging" the battery all night, unless I put the trickle charger going to maintain some kind of charge anyway. I was doing this before but just barely keeping some charge even with the trickle charger going. Okay then, the normal answer would be to just buy another $60 battery, what's the big deal? But I have already tried changing batteries, recharging batteries and all that stuff. So I believe that a "bad battery" is NOT the problem AT ALL. The problem is the semi-off button left semi-off overnight. (It's not the spark plug, it's not the coil, it's not the starter motor, it's not this, it's not that. IT'S THE SEMI-OFF cutoff switch.) (The switch is not one that clicks on, and clicks off, because that's not what the kickstand is set up to do. It just depresses, and releases smoothly. So it must have a "smooth" gradual increase to fullest contact and then fullest disconnection, which makes the proper function vulnerable to failure due to surface wear of the button and the metal pushing against it.) That's my theory, but not fully proven yet. It might be something to consider as a possibility. I think it might be something to really test out.

My Radian is doing this right now. I have just been pulling it back out every time because I can reach it from riding position. Was a little clueless when it first started happening. I'll have to lube it up or put in a new spring when it gets warmer out.

So if you don't have the boots hooked up the air cleaner it won't fire? Is it that the fuel mixture is too lean? Or does it have to do with pressure? It doesn't even try to start even with starter fluid. I wish I knew how to put a Holley on the bike. I thought 4 carbs would be neat. Boy was I wrong. How do you time the bike? What is the firing order? I'm going to replace the valve cover gasket. I will check to see if all valves are working right.

thanks max

hey max how much fuel injector cleaner additive would i need for a 3 gallon tank

i got a center stand off ebay, i should have double checked, but i didn't lessoned learned, any idea where or how I I can get some springs for it, finding then individually is staring to be aggravating

good idea for a video, I'll have to put some thought into it

My cb400 no power ..I replace a new battery I already test the ingnition coil and cdi it all good ..hope you will help me the problems.. Tnx

It appears I just had mine fail on my KLX be glad it was such an obvious fault on yours Mine was miss fireing in high revs and then just shut down and would not restart. After watching this I started thinking hmm Yup bike starts and runs fine with the stand up but in Neutral or even with the clutch in it will crank no start friggen crazy. This happened post timing chain fun

will it work same for my 03 R1? i hope so

thanks bud

Woah ok lots of questions. If you want to get into bike diagnostics with me deeper feel free to send a message. With the boots off the bike should still start up on starter fluid, but it probably won't run well on its own gas, because the mixture will be lean and the airstream will be chaotic.

Do u think this will work on a 82 yamaha xj maxim 750

what video edit software u use?

Im going to have to replace to thing or is there something else I can do

You can always send me a personal message on here thru youtube, thats the best way because I can answer on my phone

so far so good only dropped it once.

I'm going to look for that I think that might work

I just purchased a Vision off of Craigslist and it turns over and is getting fuel but no spark on either side. I checked the wiring harness R/R, battery (voltage and amperage), fuses, plugs, wires, etc and all were fine. The only thing I can think of is that the CDI is dead. However, after buying a "working" replacement off of ebay it still has no spark. Would this be a possible solution? I have the bike in storage and can't get to it to test it at the moment.

@mrmaxstorey

7 жыл бұрын

It is a common problem....

is that a newer bike thing or is it common even with older 80ish bikes??

Wat if that push pin is working and it's still running a code?

I can do that, I have budgets at the end of some of my restoration videos, not the ZX9 tho because I hardly put any money into it, just time. Some money topics I am forbidden from talking about as per youtube rules, but I do recognize that since most of my videos explain how to do things "on the cheap," people will wonder well, how cheap?

Might be a bad solenoid, do a continuity test across the large leads to see if it makes a connection when you press the button. Just because it clicks doesnt necessarily mean its good

Lol i guess its a catch 22, I didnt want to put everything back together if it wasnt working right but i guess it wont run right till i put it back together.

Exactly :)

gotta love it

I hope this is my problem. PS I have an xt just like the one in frame.

thats what I did too. thumbs up!

can be used as security.

@lynnbrianakarran7727

7 жыл бұрын

L T

Omg thank you

now 99% sure this is the problem on my Kwaka Dtracker

Hey bud, the oil light is supposed to go on, and the headlight is supposed to dim or go out momentarily. Check out my video on fixing up my Yamaha Radian, itll show how its supposed to look. Also, sounds like my video on staring problems would help diagnose this problem. If you still cant get it let me know and ill give some personalized help

Experienced this for the first time on my 1989 Honda CBR 600 (Hurricane). Oddly the stand light wasn't illuminating when engaged or disengaged. Bike died as soon as it's put into gear. Guess my 30 years old switch is going bad.problem wasn't assembly (verified), but the switch itself (electrical part)

@motocharlie42

5 жыл бұрын

Dealing with this on a CB750 -- I should try the switch itself, since things seem to be put together right..

I gave up trying to lube this switch and just bypassed it

@JayDillon-mm6yv

3 жыл бұрын

I think the problem is not that the switch is not opening enough when you need to use the bike, it's that the switch does not close tightly enough (does not fully kill the electric current) when the bike is left standing on that kickstand). That's just my theory, might be nuts, not proven yet.

@JayDillon-mm6yv

3 жыл бұрын

If I lubricate the switch, doesn't that risk cutting the circuit, because oil does not conduct electricity?

@JayDillon-mm6yv

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe that would be ok, I'm dyslexic.

thats a problem my cousin warned me that could happen. i got a 88 vlx600 with one thats really easy to get to, so before i have a problem im going to cut and tie the wires

I have this problem on my R1, when I let the clutch out (while in neutral) it dies. Any ideas?

@mrmaxstorey

7 жыл бұрын

Did you check this switch?

@FrancoSattamini

4 жыл бұрын

Dealing with the same thing with my R1 . . . A few things to check: This switch, the clutch switch and the infamous TPS sensor. Also synchronizing the throttle bodies.

I usually just bypass the switch

Just follow the instructions on the bottle, and divide to 3 gallons

Is it possible if this is getting wet that it can caise bike to not start?

@mrmaxstorey

Жыл бұрын

Yea for sure

My bike does this not sure if because it sat all winter

all right this is ether my problem or i got a short thanks

I have a similar problem. The Neutral Light on my 88 Shadow 600 turns on sometimes and other times it does not turn on. So when I'm in neutral, if the neutral light is off and I put push the kickstand engine will turn off. I noticed that I have to play around with the neutral clutch shifter and move the bike back and forth to make it work sometimes. What do you think that could be?

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Well, theres your problem. You need your airbox to be on and everything to be tight for the bike to run properly

try bikebandit

God damn these stinkin things because any idiot knows to put up the kickstand, if you leave it down you deserve what you get. I am so pissed off. I've got this problem with the same kind of kickstand kill switch, and looked at it, and in my opinion, it's not only preventing the Damned motor from starting (actually a great motor) - - but I think it's also draining electrons from my battery. Is this possible? In other words, when that switch malfunctions by being stuck halfway, with the kickstand deployed, in other words, when you have the bike leaning on the kickstand for a while, if the switch button is forced inward but not forced inward enough, the battery drains, then when you go to start the motor, the battery has drained off too many electrons. So, the problem is not so much that when you go to start it, the switch doesn't come down all the way, but in fact when you've been leaving the bike propped on the kickstand, the switch is only forced inward partway -- then, the electrons drain off because even though you have killed the engine using the kickstand, you haven't killed it enough and you've left electrons draining off into the "ground" which is the rest of the bike. Then, when you go to start it up, the switch does not open all the way, it opens halfway. But even if it does open all the way, by that time, your battery is already drained off too much, and you can't start. I'll keep fooling with it but I think I'm partly right here. Thank you !!!