‘House of the Dragon’ Season 2, Episode 4 Reactions | The Midnight Boys
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The dance has begun and the Midnight Boys are here to break down the latest episode of ‘House of the Dragon’ (06:37). They talk about game-changing battles, the spooky adventures of Daemon, as well as what it takes to rule Westeros!
Hosts: Charles Holmes, Van Lathan, Jomi Adeniran, and Steve Ahlman
Producers: Aleya Zenieris, Isaiah Blakely, and Steve Ahlman
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Jomi's laugh is the most infectious things I've ever heard. I'm dead every time he sets off!
Henn of the Sea 💀
@user-sr9qe2zl9w
Ай бұрын
Crown Apple
Jomi’s laugh gives me life lmao 😂
Black Westeros and drinking Hen of the Sea is crazy😂😂😂
To the question of why they didn't think Vaghar wouldn't be there: they were keeping her at King's Landing to protect home base from Dragon Stone.
My favorite part about these videos is watching Chuck laugh with his entire body
Immediately clocked Van had momma Steve's water bottle. 👏🏿
I think Rhaenys' decision to go back and not burn them in season 1 has to do with her conviction about not killing family. She wants the Blacks to win, but she didn't necessarily want Aegon and Aemond to die. So in that context, I think the fact that Aemond went after Aegon pissed her off. She was like 'oh, no, if he will go after his own brother, he will kill everyone. I have to try to stop him.'
@Sportsguy0258
Ай бұрын
Bro she went back because she clearly could beat Vhagar dog how are we missing this. She straight tackle slammed him to the ground. How are you going to leave Vhagar to burn that castle. She went into battle to fight win or lose. She isn’t the heir she absolutely made the correct decision. This is how dragon riders want to die. Like yall missing the whole premise of these people and the actual battle. In the book it also says she could have beat both separately but not together. How you just goin to take the blacks biggest weapon away and leave that castle to get sacked. She almost ended the war.
@frauguy_86
Ай бұрын
She should have wanted them to die , aemond attacked her granddaughters and threatened their lives which is why he lost his eye, burn the bad seed before it rots the family from within
My take on Rhaenys turning back is that she saw Vhaegar crash and figured there was no better time to finish him off if he was ever hobbled badly from the crash. She's coming from above and it's not far-fetched to think that a strategic strike to Vhaegar and taking it out when he's most vulnerable pretty much ends the war then and there.
I love how unhinged they are in this episode…hilarious
Tell’em Van! I’m from SC and we have something similar called Roots. My Mom always told never eat or drink anything a woman gives you unless you ready to Marry her.
@The_cmorris
Ай бұрын
South Cack Midnig Boys STAND UP
@LifeOfBoogie803
Ай бұрын
Big SC in the building !!!!
@CULeeisMe
Ай бұрын
"Don't let that girl mess around and put a root on yo ass boy!" - actual quote from my uncle They don't play in Carolina! 😂
My brothers you are forgetting that Alyn has a brother Adam and he also has two granddaughters.
As much as I hate to admit it, this was a smart plan by Criston. I’m sure the Blacks would not expect the Greens to pull Vhagar outside of Kings Landing. I’m curious how Vhagar made it there unnoticed. Did they fly only at night? I assume ground transport was not a possibility??
@Stephie_L
Ай бұрын
The Blacks should have made that calculation that it was a trap and Vhagar would likely be there. Dragonstone is nearby, Lord Staunton(?) is on the council, the Blacks should have expected the Greens were baiting them to send a dragon. Knowing Dragonstone is so close, it would have been a suicide mission for Cole to take Rook's Rest without a dragon actually. Knowing that, they should have had another dragon high up to report back in case Rhaenys needed back up.
@_justinblizzle
Ай бұрын
@@Stephie_Lthe blacks would've never suspected any dragon would be there let alone 2; Vhagar was essential to protecting the city which is why Daemon & Rhaenyra avoided King's Landing for so long. Everyone knew that, it was not a secret. And Sunfyre & Dreamfyre were the furthest things from war dragons. The blacks legitimately had no reason to believe there would be an ambush.
@Stephie_L
Ай бұрын
@@_justinblizzle When Rhaenyra asks why Rook's Rest? Her council member said they are daring her to act, meaning they're baiting her to send a dragon. If they can see that's what the Greens want her to do, then wouldn't the Black's think, well if they're daring me to send a Dragon, then they'll probably have back up for that?
@alanfulcher460
Ай бұрын
But it wasn’t Vhagar that showed up at first, it was Sunfyre, and she proceeded to whip Sunfyre’s ass. And THEN she drove Vhagar to the ground. Aemond could’ve been killed and the war over in one day. She just slipped up at the end lol
I think Alicent showed no decorum with Aegon, because he is a big dum-dum baby and she's an exasperated mother, she was reeling still from her Moon Tea/at home abortion (hot stones to both ease the cramping and ensure she doesn't have a failed Moon Tea pregnancy), all the grief she hasn't yet been able to express (as she told Larys) for the deaths of Viserys and her grandson, for a Helaena's trauma, and for her Dad getting ousted as Hand, for her relationship with Criston ending as he's riding off to war with her brother, plus she's rather drunk herself as evidenced by all the wine refills in the small council meeting and the empty jug Aegon pushes off the table like a naughty kitten, so yeah, she's under so much stress, her losing her shit at Aegon is the same as any human mother after a hard day of work, being in severe uterine pain, and her family have all lost their GD minds and are drunk-flying hither and yon without a good plan and embarrassing themselves in front of the whole town. She's furious, she's frightened, she's grieving, she's in physical pain, and she's had one too many in an attempt to self-medicate, so she dropped the bullshit decorum and had a real human moment of fucking up in the heat of the moment. Cut her a break. No one else has!
@LinnyThePersistent
Ай бұрын
Van and Chuck understand, "I done had a DAY!!!"
@alanfulcher460
Ай бұрын
I think everyone gets WHY she said the things that she said. It’s just that it was probably the worst thing she could’ve said in that moment lol
Shout out to Ms. Mary-anne for making those beautiful water bottles. And shame on Charles for not bringing his to the show.
@kdotamoh
Ай бұрын
Lol why'd you single Chuck out? Jomi didn't bring his either.
Regarding the Harrenhal of it all, when Alys tells him to get some sleep in order to win the castle, I think she means literally. As y'all pointed out, the beds are made of the weirwood trees, ones that were disrespectfully chopped down- perfect recipe for ghosts. That potion definitely had red weirwood sap ( I thought that's what she was licking off her fingers), so I think that was a potion for connection. It feels like Daemon's trauma hallucinations are an initiation ritual to see if he's worthy- they gotta know he feels remorse. Just got to the Moon Tea discussion. I appreciate the table acknowledging y'all don't have the perspective to speak on it. Much respect.
Vhagar in the cut that’s a scary sight
Jace is a badass through and through, was my favorite when reading the book and in the show now, great leader, honorable, brave, smart, he's the Robb Stark of this era.
@_justinblizzle
Ай бұрын
Rob Stark was an idiot & so is Jace
Blood and Fire states that Meleys can beat Vhagar in a 1v1, Meleys is younger, faster, fitter, almost as dangerous. She could have won the 1v1, she just lost this one, Vhagar is not indestructible.
@LaCheeserie
Ай бұрын
it was not definitive, but did suggest 1v1 she might have had a chance.
@gh0st_b0yfriend
Ай бұрын
I mean I think we have definitive proof that that's not the case.
@manzell
Ай бұрын
I don't think rhaenys could ever beat Aegon 1v1. She lost sight of Vhagar and then decided to fly over **the same blind cliff that she herself had used to attack Sunfyre**. Like an absolute own-goal by her.
@manzell
Ай бұрын
@@gh0st_b0yfriend In the show, Melys absolutely outflies Vhagar. Claws him and forces him to the ground. Only Rhaenys' totally going blank caused her to die.
@LaCheeserie
25 күн бұрын
@@manzell What she had Sunfyre beat before Aemond saved Aegon
Corlys has Baela and Rhaena
Aegon came to the realization his mom and grandpa regret making him king.
24:36 is peak entertainment
There’s no way Aemond would have just let Rhaenys take off without pursuing her, she was gonna have to face Vagar regardless once Aemond arrived
@_justinblizzle
Ай бұрын
There's no way Vhagar would've caught up to Meleys in a chase lol
Tyrion&Tywin Lannister and Lord Varys might be 1 million times smarter than anyone in HOTD
The fact that Meleys did cause some damage to Vhagar and brought her to the ground supports Daemon's plan to have Meleys and Caraxes attack Vhagar - the two of them would have defeated her. RIP The Queen Who Never Was & The Red Queen - fighting for the rightful Queen and going out like the badasses they were - in fire and blood.
2nd sons lock in because nothing is promised to them.
Van to answer your question, the “heir” gets coddled and pampered to ensure the lineage while the ones behind them typically get to train harder and have more drive to prove themselves and be “seen” and steal just a little bit of spotlight from their older brother
They didn’t let Rhaenys have one scene talking to her grand daughters. I hope they stop skipping over immediate reactions and let the characters grieve. Especially with the younger generation. George did so good writing the outline of Daemon’s kids in Fire & Blood, I really hope they get more screentime. I like how he paralleled them to the Stark kids with Baela/Arya Rhaena/Sansa Aegon/Bran Viserys/Rickon and even Harwin’s son Jace with Jon but Daemon is so different from Ned 😂😂 Rhaena’s egg is supposed to be pink I hope they don’t change that and actually give her a pink one that’s the only dragon I was looking forward to. She named the pink one Morning to juxtapose Baela’s Moondancer and I thought it was so cute
Yes alicent could have been more gentle with ageon in that moment. But no matter what she said he still was at a boiling point for the lack of respect he received. I felt bad for him because no matter how bad he was nobody wants to feel worthless.
They believe Vhagar is a woman because she has laid eggs however there is a theory that Dragons can change their gender at will.
@LaCheeserie
Ай бұрын
Who dis mushroom?
@_justinblizzle
Ай бұрын
Right. They jusy refer to dragons who've laid eggs as "she-dragons" but who tf knows really... do they actually need to have intercourse w another dragon or can they reproduce on their own?
I hate to say it but we (and by we I mean the Blacks' small council) need to stop listening to Jace and his plans cause they always end up in death: Jace: Don't send ravens, send us.... ...Lucery dies Jace: We need to send a dragon... ...Rhaenys dies
Inspired to share on my newest favorite HOD show, the classic Queen album, Queen II, has songs like Marching Queens of black and Dragon Attacks.
I won't even drink Kombucha.
Nice comp between themes of communication between Alicent/Aegon and Rhaenyra/Jace (mothers and sons)!!! Van, "He (Jace) braver than me, man... I ain't talkin to my Mom like that!" 💀💀💀😂😂😂
Nah Van. Rhaenys had a good chance of taking Vhegar out if it wasn't for the sunfire fight. Not as big, but pretty big. Way more mobile. There is a reason the biggest dragon in the realm went for a sneak attack to end it.
This how you know Chuck is from the east coast.. loves to say something outta pocket and then Immediately tries to justify it with “WHAAT!?” Like why aren’t you thinking it too?
I enjoyed this discussion. Some good insight, and I laughed out loud a few times.
i haven't laughed that hard in a minute 1:03:38
Alicent drinking that plan b tea....
Daemon told Rhaenys they needed to jump Vhagar in episode 1 this season, now look.
Jace is the underdog of all the princes. Just not enough screen time yet
@glc0stanza
Ай бұрын
I can tell. Didn't read the book but I'm lowkey WAITING on that cat.
@MusicFan562
Ай бұрын
Jace is trying to eat
@alanfulcher460
Ай бұрын
Not a very good actor imo
Yoo.... Achilles was def 1 of the first dual threat BEASTS. 40 time was definitely sick
@jamineleph5207
Ай бұрын
@@Ikelove513 Still takes too many sacks, but given the offensive line he’s been working with you understand why.
@Ikelove513
Ай бұрын
@@jamineleph5207 facts. Definitely takiy him over Brock Purdy
What I saw was Rhaenys was trying to make up for what she did. She knew she could’ve stopped all of this from the jump. So maybe she thinks if I can at least hinder Vhagar it is a win.
@smoothblak78
Ай бұрын
She couldn’t stop anything. This war was inevitable once raenrya was named heir
@YourLastGreatkNight
Ай бұрын
@@smoothblak78 nah bruh if you watched season one she could’ve burned all them. Aemond, Aegon, Cole all of them.
@_justinblizzle
Ай бұрын
That has nothing to do w anything as it never even happened in books and yet Rhaenys still went to Rook's Rest and stayed at Rook's Rest bcuz she knew had she turned around and left Rhaenyra mind as well had threw her crown in the garbage. Rhaenys coming to defend the castle and then letting it fall bcuz she fled would've been a nightmare for Rhaenyra bcuz why would anyone support a queen who abandons her loyalists. Could you imagine if King Robert had seen Rhaegar at the Trident and fled... tou think that Ned would still fxck w him?? Could you imagine if Jon Snow would've ran from Battle of the Bastards when that army was charging towards him?? Tywin has a line in S2 addressing this when its suggested Cersei & Joffrey flee KL in the wake of Stannis coming; a king who flees won't be a king for long, no, they will stay ans fight- something to that effect. I know it sounds nice bcuz we want Auntie Rhaenys to live but she did what was best not just for her own legacy but for her Queen's.
Van honoring Mary Anne 😂
not BETAMAX though 🤣
45:30 Van having an Andrew Schultz reveal moment realising in ep4 this might be people dying for a bunch of emtitled neppobabies with dragons. HotD: WE BEEN PUSHING SCENES WITH DEAD SMALLFOLK ALL SEASON
@alanfulcher460
Ай бұрын
“Is this show like succession??” It’s literally about a succession war
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL Lathan be KILLING me.
Rhaenys 😢😢😢
Targaryen actually share some of their blood by magic with dragons from when they are created from wyverns.
Let's say Rhaenys does fly away. Do you think her lil ass dragon would be able to outfly Vhagar? Whether she stayed or flew away he fate would have been the same. Luke and his dragon is the perfect example of this. It didn't matter. At least by her staying she wounded his dragon. 🤷🏽♀️
@gh0st_b0yfriend
Ай бұрын
Meleys was a LOT bigger and faster, and cleverer than Luke's tiny baby dragon, and Aemond had several reasons to stick around and not pursue. We saw her gain significant ground and then deliberately choose to turn around and take another swing instead several times on purpose.
Charles. You are COLD HEARTED, BOI
Who here likes that Spaghetti sauce 😎
The Princess Rhaenys went to Rook's Rest and stayed at Rook's Rest bcuz she knew had she turned around and left Rhaenyra mind as well had threw her crown in the garbage. Rhaenys coming to defend the castle and then letting it fall bcuz she fled would've been a nightmare for Rhaenyra bcuz why would anyone support a queen who abandons her loyalists. Could you imagine if King Robert had seen Rhaegar at the Trident and fled... you think that Ned would still fxck w him?? Could you imagine if Jon Snow would've ran from Battle of the Bastards when that army was charging towards him?? Tywin has a line in S2 addressing this when its suggested Cersei & Joffrey flee KL in the wake of Stannis coming; "a king who flees won't be a king for long, no, they will stay and fight"- something to that effect. I know it sounds nice "ohh run and live to fight another day" bcuz we want Auntie Rhaenys to live but she did what was best not just for her own legacy but for her Queen's.
The blacks suffered the bigger loss by losing rhaynese , the greens basically had a useless limb amputated and gained a castle
was it Critical Drinker? I bet it was. 1:00:43
Van clocking WeHo? #HOTDLGBT
They took my dragon mommy😢
Pew pew pew
not west hollywood 😂💀💀
The only thing that would have made that episode better is if they played they not like us at the end. 😅
Ammond and Christon plan was to lure the Blacks dragons to attack the army. They have more dragon riders so Vhagar is hidden to wipe out dragons and their riders. The Greens have no dragon game as Vhagar cannot be in 2 places at once.
So the greens now only have i active dragon/rider? Now's a good time for the blacks to strike!
I think Im going deaf. Can someone tell me what was said that lead to such laughter? The first was the reference Charles made at 24:38 , the second is at 1:03:45. I couldnt make out what was said either time. Grumble.
@SpideySensei72
Ай бұрын
At 24:38, Charles told Steve that Sean Fennessy could be his bastard son. And as usual, Steve sat there while everyone clowned him. And at 1:03, Van said something about the sons going to West Hollywood and everyone started laughing.
@SueBasile
Ай бұрын
@@SpideySensei72 and WeHo is a traditionally LGTBQ+ hood with a lot of gay bars and clubs
Sisqo needs to be in the black westeros show. Silver hair, album was Enter the Dragon....
1:03:35 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Get their names right
Yall crazy hey aegon i know they beheaded ur baby this week but chill do nothing 😂
Choco Taco aka Exotica Expert MIA in this one 😢
I think dragons can change their gender in this fantasy world, so Charles wasn’t really outta pocket 😂
@LaCheeserie
Ай бұрын
Not canon lol
@bopyranks
Ай бұрын
@@ArmandoMPR they CAN, but in the case of the dragons in this story, I don't believe any have. At any rate, Vhagar is always described as a she dragon, so I'll go with that.
Mix up the format, chuck doesn’t have to always answer first. Let the others have input.
@bmorgan2928
Ай бұрын
It's their show tho😂
They sleeping on Jace.
I am new to the Midnight Boys. Is Charles always this much of an idiot? I'm not against it. But boy these are some bad opinions
Could you get rid of Chris Ryan sister wife and give us dave Gonzales.. david chen.. I'll even take any real guy point of view here every time nothing but chicks
@HelpUSA-j4i
Ай бұрын
Too witches of Eastwick and no diversity in the real episodes that matter .. I wouldn't mind hearing a new male voice
@leportrait77
Ай бұрын
Dave Gonzalez prob has other commitments.. but omgosh him being on this even by phone would be epic
@xoxobacon1034
Ай бұрын
Bring dave Gonzalez guest host do ittt
Charles is the worst. What makes him even harder to listen to is the fact that he talks too dam much. He plays his role well tho.
Ayyyyyyyy🎉
Is it me or does Van mess up the flow of the pod a lot with those cringy jokes. He’s like an elite PG who has a turnover problem.
If you guys were half as funny as you think you are it would be great...