Let's be honest, the scenes between Rhaenyra and Daemon are just fire. Even though i shouldn't, i do ship them.

@asoiafan

Жыл бұрын

Well, they are Targaryens, so of course they are fire.

@brasilogiatrivial8656

Жыл бұрын

It is fire, it could also be blood, but he 5:29

@toothfairy430

Жыл бұрын

I hate when people use the term "ship."

@davidhooper259

Жыл бұрын

Clearly you don’t have nieces

@chelseab3769

Жыл бұрын

some thoughts are best left unspoken

I think we're all kind of disgusted with ourselves for how much we like the Daemon and Rhaenyra scene. Matt and Milly have legit chemistry that cannot be faked on camera, shit was hot.

@michaelmascolo3161

Жыл бұрын

Yep. We're all going to hell after watching this.

@thekarmicbrat

Жыл бұрын

Honestly... Who cares? It's consensual, it's fiction. Some relationships are obviously abusive and morally wrong. This one isn't, and that's why people can ship it without being too ashamed of it.

@chelseab3769

Жыл бұрын

@@thekarmicbrat how is a relationship between a 15 yo child and her adult adult uncle (that is directly described by the directors as an abusive relationship) not hypothetically abusive and morally wrong? the whole reason he gets turned off at the end and they don’t have sex is because she’s interested & enthusiastically consensual

@tmmnago2722

Жыл бұрын

@@chelseab3769 4 years have passed since the first episode.

@chelseab3769

Жыл бұрын

@@tmmnago2722 yes? that doesn’t change him being her uncle or that her age would only be 17 at the oldest by this time

Milly is so unfiltered I love it😂😂😂😂

The fact that a woman directed this episode and that scene makes sense because it was HOT and sexy. Not vile, disgusting or demeaning. I’ve played that scene multiple times since.

@ldrockmusic

Жыл бұрын

Did you watch the same episode? Get over that she is a woman You didn’t notice the spiciness behind them.

@npats550

Жыл бұрын

@idrockmusic I noticed, the spiciness behind...it actually reminded me a little of the Dothraki females...yes they were seen as 2nd class apart from the Dosh Kaleen, but they had the right to basic, open, almost animalistic sex and take pleasure in it. As Dany pointed out to Missandei in S3 GoT. And the dragon, is a kind of metaphor for sex and/or violence with the Targaryans, as pointed out by Alicent, "You Targaryans have some strange customs". AND Viserys 1 in this show talking about the chaotic restlessnes of the dragon that Daemon and Rhaenyra share. In GoT, Viserys 11, with Doreah, (and hints of sa of him with Dany), relates "wakening the dragon with sex and violenve too. But the Brothel scene in this, I noticed several females sounding and looking more as if they eere enjoying it, rather than the fake illusions in the GoT brothels. Especially with the one threesome with one female and 2 males, which even a few years ago would still have seemed odd to todays pop culture, so I think when I re watched it, that it was somewhat different. And of course, the juxtaposition with the sexually charged brothel scene, with the "lie back and think of England", or duty, of Alicent and Viserys, also was seen through a female gaze, looking down on Alicent's expression. And then add in the mischievious, playful Rhaenyra and Criston, was so tender and sweet like girls like to imagime ot would be, (can be), when they are adolescents/ young women who are still virgins. At the climax it was Rhaenyras face we saw, with her wonderous and satisfied experience.

@valeaves

Жыл бұрын

Same. There‘s just something different about these scenes that made me watch them several times.

@queengoblin

Жыл бұрын

women understand seduction better, how to captivate and seduce an audience, sensuality, and how important tension is to the experience of being turned on.

@megem616

Жыл бұрын

Exactly - now I know why this scene is so great. Even thought it didn't have a "happy" ending, it is more sexy than any other sex scenes in movies.

I think that Alicent was mad at Rhaenyra not only because she might have ruined her reputation and compromised her chances of getting married. She was hurt that her friend got a chance to take control over her sexuality, whilst Alicent has never been able to do that being forced into marriage with an older man and having to adhere to her marital duties. Pleasure was never in the equation for her.

@mathg-3270

Жыл бұрын

I think that Alicent was profundly hurt to learn that Rhaenyra, who is supposed to be the next to sit on the Iron Throne, wouldn't put honor and duty above everything else. I think that Alicent truly believes that Rhaenyra would make a good queen, despite what her father says. Alicent seems to be really different from Rhaenyra : she puts family and duty above everything else, even if it means sacrificing the life she would've preferred. And clearly, she doesn't understand that Rhaenyra isn't able to do the same sacrifice given that she's to be the Queen. Alicent seems completely shaken by the news of her night excursion in a brothel, and I don't think it's because of jealousy over Rhaenyra's taking control of her sexuality. But she still has faith in Rhaenyra and chooses to believe her, attributing this episode to Daemon. So I think the final blow which will make her choose to defend her children over Rhaenyra for the succession will be when Criston cole (I guess that will be him) will reveal her that Rhaenyra completely lied about what happened that night. I think this will definitely break the trust Alicent had in Rhaenyra.

@starryeyes469

Жыл бұрын

rhaenyra caused the downfall of the kingdom the realm will and didn't want to accept her as the queen but she forced herself upon them . Aegon2 was much more compatible. I am team green.

@najaf4828

9 ай бұрын

i agreed, alicent hates nyra mainly bc she sees her living her life - not having children w her husband and seeking a lover she actually loves, not adhering to those duties alicent has been forced to n generally j living her life as alicent seems she hasn't been able to.

Milly is hilarious LOL Gonna miss her on this show

Milly and matt chemistry on fire 🔥 best episode yet.

So far, this series is so well written and so well done. As a viewer, it draws you in and makes you want more.

6:03 And this is why I’ll miss Milly so much after the next episode

Amazing director this episode! I love her insight and care regarding the sex/kiss scenes. They were SO GOOD. Also, wonderful writing and acting, great story telling all together.

as someone whos read the book fire and blood twice now they're doing a good job with this series so far I really hope they keep it up.

The character studies of these characters are so wonderful, I really like it

Daemon and rhaenyra goes sensual 😭 ohmy hormonesz 🙈

I love this! Its a great show

We knew how incest has big part of this story...from the first episode there are already ovious buildup for Daemon and Rhaenyra its taboo in real life but this is fiction...we shipping them because they are good actors and very good chemistry.

@ldrockmusic

Жыл бұрын

Daemon and Rhaenyra are Daenerys and Jon Snow’s blood ancestor.

Muy buen capítulo el 4 me dejo por mas

Love Milly. I wish they let her grow with the story like Emilia Clarke.

Where do you find these?

Daemon is a new BoJack? But he have a dapression too or not?

I wish they would record a commentary with cast like they did with got

Christon is the real King of the, I mean her Narrow Sea.🤣

@thihaaung647

Жыл бұрын

LOL

@oddperson3820

Жыл бұрын

Good one🤣🤣

amazing these are the writers and directors, awesome i hope they wiill be on the blueray, are there storyboard drawings/paintings? how did is the process of reading the script and imagening the scene ? Is the secene image reviewed discussed with the writers? whoe is tells the truth, who is a standard right. in these times of turmoil, and lot of young writers and lot of pressure from the newsburo's and lot of financial pressure from Sorrows and Bill Gates, this production and writers have gone their own way and have made a magnificent product. Wow we are so imerged in this world of houses.

I watched this scene many times and in my pov, I think daemon really cares about rhaenyra.. Cause if not why’d he stop? If he really want the throne, maybe he will do something bad to his niece but no, when it comes to her, He’s always gentle and always think deeper and Dissapear again.. I think daemon really have a feelings for her, he just didn’t want to admit because He didnt’ Care or something stopping him.. Let’s just wait and watch and be sinner lol 🤣

@ephajanke3242

Жыл бұрын

He couldn´t get it up, that´s why. And not for the first time, so it´s not his conscience or the feelings for her. And you can clearly see his frustration about it, because sleeping with her was his plan. And that does not have to contradict that he has feelings for her.

@misbah6161

Жыл бұрын

Yes but once he’d stopped he left her right in a dangerous place, fleabottom and kings landing in general is so incredibly dangerous, he was lucky Rhaenyra didn’t come back unharmed or even dead - there was a high chance she could’ve. Daemon was the commander of the city watch, he knows this and sees the dangers and cruelty happening and his job to prevent it and protect the smallfolk, so why would he just leave Rhaenyra alone when he knows it’s completely possible for her to get hurt, not to mention where exactly he left her in. He wasn’t protecting her, regardless if he stopped or not - he still took her there and practically had the intention to do it, and then he just abandoned her.

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@mtabby8791

Жыл бұрын

Those royal dynasty From France England Wales Scotland Spain..is a all incest.

@mtabby8791

Жыл бұрын

You ever hear of the Czars of Russia?? How incest was so bad it caused Hemophilia!

@mtabby8791

Жыл бұрын

It’s weird that people are so ignorant of history.

@antiAvocado

Жыл бұрын

@@mtabby8791 I'm russian and I don't know what are you talking about, But meme about Alabama good knows even in Russia

Who are putting these subtitles xD. Quite a few mistakes.

I think they failed at their mission but still got it right? Lmaoooo, not once did I think about this as abuse, I was all for it. And so was she. She should have been less into it for it to feel like abuse.

and viserys makes the fault of his life by making rhaenyra is heir marry laenor. who isnt interested in woman at all but men and thats something that is also basically rumored around kings landing so how viersys ever thought it was a good idea to marry his daughter and heir to someone who will never be abl to give her children because he basically cant get it up for a woman no matter how beautiful she is is beyond me. rhaenyra actually has no other choice but to lay eith another man outside of her marriage to be able to produce heirs!!

Daemon abuses Rhaenyra because asides from the uncle thing, he is much older and the power dynamic is off, she's on the street under his care and is much younger. She doesn't know really how badly Daemon is treating her. then Rhaenyra abuses Cole because can he really say no? She could get him killed, he is in a really awkward position because she holds all the cards there, she abuses Cole in the same way Daemon abuses her.

@nero91

Жыл бұрын

Its all a matter of perspective.

@thekarmicbrat

Жыл бұрын

You have a rather off definition of abuse.

@averymoreland3081

Жыл бұрын

While I’m not denying there was definite manipulation (at the start of the scene at least) on Daemon’s part, I wouldn’t say it was abuse. Abuse implies harm to one or more people or performing an act that could not be stopped, and like one of the other replies explains, we’ve CLEARLY seen that she can stand up to him. In fact, she’s about the only one in her whole FAMILY that can and will stand up to him and he’ll listen to her. And power wise, they’re pretty equal if not more power towards Rhaenyra because she’s the princess and has that title. Her word has more power in King’s Landing than Daemon’s does. As far as Ser Criston goes, it’s clear from episode four that, while she’s a great character, Rhaenyra doesn’t always understand the power her position entails and is unaware of the struggles of other people. She is caught up in the moment with him and I agree, shouldn’t have slept with him because it will put him in some serious danger. However, he could have easily said no. She gave him ample time to leave and he didn’t.

@isabellakrissane5750

Жыл бұрын

@@Mijo1810 A child who just returned from half a year of touring through suitors to marry so news flash, she already came of age last episode. Rhaenyra was as much, if not more, into it as Daemon so it hardly qualifies as him seducing her "into" it bcz she was already into it. She further proves it by doing it with Criston right after she comes back when Daemon wouldn't go further. Call it impulse, not abuse or seduce... It's a surprising power dynamic these two share

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@romanianturk2101

Жыл бұрын

What the fu- what the hell

@queengoblin

Жыл бұрын

@@romanianturk2101 surprise history lesson

I'm not sure I understand Daemon's logic behind "getting at his brother". He's risked his niece's reputation and got himself banished, again, this time with worse consequences. Congrats, I guess? If it was to get rid of Otto, then it makes more sense, but still, that was played out by Rhaenyra, not him, and the consequences are a bit too harsh for that goal. It won't make him Hand of the King, if that is what he supposedly wanted to achieve. From all points of view, the situation is worse than it was. I think I'm the only person so far that really dislikes his character. I mean, the actor is amazing, but Daemon himself is not a good person by far and by far is doing really mean things to his, supposedly, "loved ones".

@Tattle-by-Tale

Жыл бұрын

Do you not have a brother? If not, that may be why you don't understand Daemon's logic.

@sudoras4819

Жыл бұрын

I think he wanted to gain power by forcing his brother to mary him with rhaenyra… It did not work out his way I guess?

@alexrundle3881

Жыл бұрын

I so see what you mean. I know I shouldn't like Daemon, he's not a good guy and has done some really awful things, but I think Matt Smith does such a good job at showing the different layers to him. Shouldn't like him, but I do.

Everyone ditching the show after Milly leaves in another episode.

I will never forgive these ppl for not having daemon give rhaenyra a magical de- flowering!!! Spoilt the entire show!!

@queengoblin

Жыл бұрын

ew lmao

Too few caracters in that show, and is predictebel

@xarmanhsh2981

Жыл бұрын

@Jimperialist Jimgoism i am addicted to this show. In love with it like its a person. I cant believe how good it actually is

I hated Rhaenyra in this episode Now I'm fully Team Green

@Tattle-by-Tale

Жыл бұрын

Loved Rhaenyra this episode. I'm fully Team Black.

Still the episode doesn’t compare to the original GOT. It lacks the excitement and realism, it was a “woke🤮” episode. It is obvious it was from a female POV it was a boring episode!

@understandenglish7047

Жыл бұрын

I also felt the same buddy , not even near the caliber of game of thrones,it was like I am forcing myself to watch the episode 😩

@anonha6994

Жыл бұрын

Y'all just crybabies 😂

@mayascriven5015

Жыл бұрын

literally every show ever is from a male perspective if you have such a problem with the show stop watching, because women carry the fricken show , this show is already better then game of thrones so i'm not sure why you are complaining , you obviously just hate women.

@claireamigo5385

Жыл бұрын

I liked the episode 😁. Its... different in a very interesting way...

@eurongreyjoy1008

Жыл бұрын

the only good thing about got was season 1