Thanks for zooming in on the flames when the FFers were pulling hose and making entry to the front door.

I remember those days when I was a volunteer fireman. I sure miss those days.

From the looks of it they had a well involved garage fire with extension to the attic. Initial line pulled to base of fire while getting a game plan and manpower in order. Then line transitions interior to cut off fire spread and roof is cut to aid in the same. Blast of water exits roof as soon as hole is punched so we know they were pulling ceiling and cutting off the attic fire. To say they "burned it down" is a stretch. Could a second line of gotten to the garage during interior ops? Maybe, don't know what all was going on. Would it have made a difference, probably not, garage was already lost focus on search and cutting it off. And when is it a problem to ask a resident if everyone is out? That doesn't mean we don't search, it's just a valid question.First line went interior at 2:42, but we have no idea who else may have already been inside to search and close door to garage. All I know is the bashing of fellow firefighters is way different than learning from what we PERCEIVE to be a poorly fought fire. Use it, learn from it, do "better" than they did, but the "brotherhood" displayed in the comments section is disgusting. In my 20 year career I have been first due on 5 decent fires. That's right 5. I've been to other fires, but first due and in charge 5. I train, study, attend classes, lay awake at night thinking about what I will do on a run, saturate myself in the trade as much as I can and none of it will compare to making calls. You have no control over how many fires you get in a career, that's up to the municipality you work in. Do I think they all went perfect? HELL NO. I made mistakes, I hope you never make the mistakes I did, I know I never will again. I'll make new ones, and I hope I live to learn from those as well. I'm envious of those of you who have apparently made more jobs in a day then I have in a career and made no mistakes while doing so. I'm off to hand in my resignation because I'm not worthy to wear the uniform. I will add this, I noticed one of the guys had a Piglet on his waist. This tells me a few things. 1. He has great taste in tools 2. He obviously spends time learning and being proactive and open to new concepts. So even if they don't see many fires in Salinas, I have no idea what their volume is, some of their members are committed to the trade and that is to be respected.

@briangary1997

5 жыл бұрын

jlee5232 well said.

@JBart3112

5 жыл бұрын

The garage will continue to feed the interior and attic until you kill it.

@PreservationEnthusiast

5 жыл бұрын

@@JBart3112 Correct. They needed to reduce the heat in the garage with more water earlier to reduce extension into the attic. They made life difficult more difficult for themselves by lack of attention early on.

@jamespotter4878

4 жыл бұрын

Copy that

@djohn3008

3 жыл бұрын

Holy shit arm chair quarterback 😂😂

I am a trained firefighter and there are a number of assclowns that are posting pejorative commentary. Is the attack perfect no, is it a total fail also no. There are also a number of factors that KZread videos do not show for example time of ignition to time of discovery. How long from time of discovery to the time alarm is raised to have the FD respond. The distance the fire crews had to travel from the hall to the scene. All of these the firefighter has no control over. Now for the on scene response one firefighter trying to speed up water to the fire exceeded his abilities and had to stop and regain control which he did. That same firefighter must have had some experience as he was used to transition from an exterior defensive posture and cooling the fire to an aggressive interior fire attack. That line was also replaced by a larger 2.5 inch soon after. Fire was discovered in the attic and vertical venting is being performed

At 10:03 there is a great shot of the prefabricated Truss Plates for the roof trusses that cause premature structure failure... Many a firefighters have been under those damn things when interior attacks are made...

I'm not an arm chair fire fighter who fights fires from the comfort of his not burning house. Some commenters have earned the right to be critical and I'm sure things could have been done better or worse. Always room for improvement. I guess if it was my house, I would just say thanks.

At the 3 minute mark the shot of the garage. Put it on a large flat screen (Loop it) and you have a great fireplace shot.

I love the people who think they can do it better. I think we can all agree that every fire can be done a little better and we can learn something from every call we go on. No two fires are the same and they all have different challenges. We all do the same job and want the same results so think of that before you armchair experts weigh in on what was wrong. I could watch you fire attack and destroy what you are doing and make you look like an idiot.

@MooseP148

5 жыл бұрын

Sure you could. But have you ever debriefed after an event? Career department? Sounds personal for you. How about fire load in garage and pulled a handline? Maybe a blitz fire or the deuce and a half they later pulled? The venting was great, access into the living quarters could be way improved. Water pressure on previous handline very light.

@thenussbaum44

5 жыл бұрын

@@MooseP148 these negative comments aren't a debriefing after a fire.they're just plain old people that don't know what they're talking about commenting on things they know nothing about.you sound like you know what you're talking about but at the same time you're making it stupid comments.

@PreservationEnthusiast

5 жыл бұрын

@@thenussbaum44 They needed to reduce heat in the garage early on. This fed extension into the attic.

The initial attack on the garage should never have been abandon. The majority of the fire was in the garage and extending into the attic above the garage. With very little smoke showing from any other part of the structure they should have continued the attack on the garage and let the responding units enter the structure to pull the ceiling and search for the fire. Instead the entered the structure and allowed the garage and attic space above the garage to reignite, putting themselves in danger.

@virgilhilts3924

Жыл бұрын

The sad part is that you actually believe what you just typed

Wow.

All the arm chair firefighters are useless. You aren't there.

@jimmccabe801

4 жыл бұрын

@Tiger I. F. R. Tiger what the f are you talking about. F off.

@jromebizzle

4 жыл бұрын

Arm chair, fire behavior and fire fighting tactics are science, we train and practice. When you do wrong you get the wrong results. Dead and loss of people personal property. If you had to pay for the damage you could have prevented maybe you would get it right. Do the job and do it right...

@jimmccabe801

4 жыл бұрын

@Tiger I. F. R. Tiger im talking about the know it all comment from people that have never done this work not the department.

So many house fires start in the garage. I would rather have the garage at least fifty feet from the house. May have to walk a little but better than having a fire and loosing the house too.

@brandoncaldwell95

3 жыл бұрын

Typically its people piling stuff around water heaters, and dryers. Especially gas ones. Why my neighbors house went up years ago.

Excelente trabajo Bomberos. 👌👍👍👍

The only thing I would have done different is open up the deck gun while waiting for the first crew to stretch the lines.

You need to ignore all the comments by armchair firemen. You guys did a fine job of burning down this house.

@googleuser6866

5 жыл бұрын

HA!! You got that right.

@daynakrol4052

5 жыл бұрын

What is wrong with you guys

@joshua2cool996

5 жыл бұрын

oh what fire truck did yall come in

@glennhuber4975

5 жыл бұрын

Your real armchair guy aren’t ya? Were you there ?

@riamendez6840

4 жыл бұрын

Glenn Huber I was and by the time they got it out it was late af at night and basically the whole house was TAR I had just had a good New Years and was walking and saw the trucks still there no workers but the house was completely burnt the garage ended up crumbling too

I hope you mean 30 min not hours 🙄

ALOT OF FIRES

Theres no way that took 30 hours

@lauremehrkens5891

3 жыл бұрын

It says, 30 minutes.

Department needs additional hoses, no?

Not a FF, but I always wonder why there are so many guys, tons of equipment, and usually a single hose? Why not pull a second or third?

@virgilhilts3924

Жыл бұрын

They had three line working including a 2.5... WTH are are you talking about?

@leightongalleries6057

Жыл бұрын

@@virgilhilts3924 I meant in general, not specifically this fire. Thanks

GET IN THERE!

So no interior attack through the house into the garage? I'm confused. The attack was done from outside to push the fire back into the home. Am I missing something here? And then once the fire in the garage was knocked down a bit, then a interior attempt was made. Oye yoi!!!

@CyanoticFuture

5 жыл бұрын

Yea...except the concept of "pushing the fire " anywhere has largely been disproven for years, thus why departments are utilizing transitional attacks more and more, especially in the shoddy homes built in the last 30 or so years. But please. Share your expertise. Tell us how fire instructors are wrong when they tell cadets that KZread opinions should be thought of as toilet paper. As in, wipe your ass with them and properly dispose of. 😂

@rjrestorationstation4402

4 жыл бұрын

CyanoticFuture It’s interesting that armchair fireground commanders have not heard about ALL of the live fire testing that UL has been doing w/ FDNY & LAFD...🤔🧐😂🤣😅 “Hit it hard from the yard” THEN go on in and finish it off. They really needed to darken the fire down a bit more, before going in. At the end of the video, did you all notice WHAT the roof system was comprised of??? TRUSSES...All the more reason to be cautious about racing in to the unburned side. You might wear the roof. Had some not so good experiences with truss roof systems.

Hi there, new arm chair quarterback here... but I have a question. Why do I often see water being used and then they stop? I see this on a lot of videos.. case in point the garage, they had a good attack going and then stopped.

@anthonywomack8740

4 жыл бұрын

Brutal Bear transitional attack. I only see the one line going to work, so the thought process knocks the bulk, then move the interior to stop spread into the residence. Then when the second line comes in, they can continue to hit the problem areas in the garage while the interior crews continue to operate inside the residence. I'm not a fan of transitional attacks, except for the instances of garage fires.

@anthonywomack8740

4 жыл бұрын

But I am also confused as to why the first nozzle firefighter didn't just get everything on at one time, and then start hitting the fire, instead of hitting the fire, stopping to put one glove on. Hitting the fire, stopping to put the other one on. Hitting the fire, stopping to advance. Hitting the fire, stopping to advance again. But the way people kept talking to him, I’m assuming this may be his first fire. He was very jumpy in his movements

@madmeerkat1158

2 жыл бұрын

@@anthonywomack8740 Should have followed the six "P"s. Planning and Preperation Prevents Piss Poor Performance.

Unreal was the Point coming too this house fire these firefighters are all over the map

@bluemamba5317

3 жыл бұрын

English much?

Salinas where?

@googleuser6866

5 жыл бұрын

Salinas is a medium sized city in Monterey County, Central California.

@sharppointy1

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks@@googleuser6866 and L. Madison

@riamendez6840

4 жыл бұрын

Lyle L. Madison salinas is not really near sf lol

@christinedavis4544

3 жыл бұрын

@@riamendez6840 actually we are an hour from San Francisco to be exact

@Waterboy831

3 жыл бұрын

Kinda think it was on the corner of Delancy street 🤔

Why are SO MANY fires that I see originating in the garages of homes? Can there be a common thread? Same model of car/vehicle igniting? Same model of hot water heater igniting? This is happening far too often. Must be a common denominator involved somewhere which should be investigated!

@briangary1997

5 жыл бұрын

roguejeff1 attached garage fires are problematic for a multitude of reasons. Vehicles, flammable liquids, operating equipment, and stupidity. In America, every fire of significance is supposed to be investigated. The information is collected in a national database. This is how many product recalls originate. Several years ago, there was an auto maker that identified a faulty circuit that was attributed to starting thousands of fires nationwide. Stay safe.

@stevefranklin8052

5 жыл бұрын

Definitely something to be said for DETACHED GARAGES.

@riamendez6840

4 жыл бұрын

roguejeff1 this was after New Years so...yeah New Years got a little too lit you could say (I was there)

Merely watch fire crews from other countries and we look sad, and ineffective. Paris Texas is the one crew thats great to watch. Truth is truth.

@doreenblatz2440

3 жыл бұрын

Dan Koning, David Decker has a great channel. The crews are fast, efficient and knock down fires quickly. Hate watching fire crews that break out windows and cut holes in the roof before they even start the water. I’m no fire fighter but I can see when an effective fire crew knocks a fire down quickly.

@DanKoning777

3 жыл бұрын

@@doreenblatz2440 // Watching with your emotions isn't wise.

@doreenblatz2440

3 жыл бұрын

Dan Koning not sure what you mean by that, just a suggesting a channel you might appreciate. 🤷‍♀️

@jasonwilliams3223

3 жыл бұрын

@@doreenblatz2440 if you aren't a firefighter, you can't even begin to understand the obstacles and ever changing scenarios that go with firefighting. Every fire is different and has it's own learning curve. It's not just water on the fire like you KZreadrs think.. this was an excellent fire attack by all standards

@andyoxleyonhistravels

3 жыл бұрын

@@jasonwilliams3223 I have been in the service for 23 years Jason and although it wasn't all bad to say it was an excellent attack is rather poor. Firstly the seat of the fire is clearly in the garage so if you deal with the seat there is a fair chance that you will gain control. the smoke which is pushing out of the opposite end of the garage is venting fairly well and has not flashed over so that tells you that it has not reached that point and is being pushed through the roof void by the pressure created from the fire in the garage which has gone through the garage ceiling. Had they had carried on hitting the fire in the garage with the initial hoseline and put an internal crew inside with the 2nd hoseline you will find they would have got things sorted much quicker. As soon as they started knocking down the fire in the garage the steam created would have filled the whole roof void smothering the fire and cooling the temperatures so the internal spread in the rest of the house would have been limited.. There was no need to put crews on the roof to vertical vent as if you look at the video the roof is venting from the top of the pitch roof over the garage and the window at the far end so there is no need to put guys on a roof and in danger that they don't need to be in. Stay safe people.

Why is the garage area so hot, fuel related?

@jasonwilliams3223

3 жыл бұрын

New modern construction burns hotter and faster than previous eras. All of the composites and fibers in new furnishings also burn hotter and faster. A couch will go up in flames in less than a minute

Your doing great FIREMEN awersome fire department

Had to stop watching!! what a ..........................!!!!

Hitting it hard from the yard. OMG

@virgilhilts3924

Жыл бұрын

WTH are you babbling about... They did a textbook transitional attack knocking down the seat of the fire until a second line was ready and then went interior. OMG... stop babbling about things you clearly know nothing about.

@retireeslife4013

Жыл бұрын

@@virgilhilts3924 35 yrs big city. Yeah I know nothing. Helmet keeps falling off no gloves. Real pro.

@virgilhilts3924

Жыл бұрын

@@retireeslife4013 Says the 🤡 with the fake pedigree who clearly hasn't a clue what he's babbling about

Wow, looks like they were using this as a training day. Most houses could be saved if time was expedited .

That’s your job see if anyone is home

@bluemamba5317

3 жыл бұрын

Why risk lives in case the owner knows no one is inside?

Why do people not play-in on a working fire? Hand jacking is time consuming, labor intensive and takes FFs away for other duties!

Uhhhh I live in Salinas California

How about hitting the base of the fire, not the tippy top of the flames!

@jacklemmon7910

3 жыл бұрын

Don't be hating on my boy Bobo

there is no reason to hand jack 5" LDH from the attack engine to a hydrant !!!

@df446

5 жыл бұрын

How would you have done it, Chief?

California departments are the worst! How do you not lay in to a hydrant with smoke showing. East coast depts never hand stretch 5 inch. terrible tactics.

The firefighter on that first attack line needs better training. 1-3/4" from the ground? Multiple companies on scene and not assisting him? Move in and get water on the Red stuff.

Great job guys!!.. I only have one comment... did anyone help him with his hand jacking .. lmao 1:25 in

@xanadunadine1970

5 жыл бұрын

Dad's Life 😂😂

Your watermark is almost as annoying as your inability to keep the camera steady

Bro, you guys really should handjack in private.

@bluemamba5317

3 жыл бұрын

Guess they couldn't help themselves in the heat of the moment.

Not a bad job, from the little we can see in this video. Keep it up, guys.

@retiredarthritic2083

5 жыл бұрын

I liked the knock down time on the fire in the garage fully involved and 13/4 hand line knock down in less than a minute the only issue I have is why they stopped before extinguishment. I am sure they had a reason but can't figure it out.

put some water on it....turn the water off. put some water on, turn it off... Classic shoot the wall firemen

@googleuser6866

5 жыл бұрын

You saw that too..! It's also amazing that the fireman asked if everyone was out of the house. I would have thought a fast search of a burning building would be in order since the homeowners may have been confused in all the drama and left out little Timmy...

@jimmccabe801

5 жыл бұрын

Wawawa

Incendie 1 pompiers 0

I don't know why but the first thought that comes to mind to my P brain I must say is that did anyone think that possibly they could just put a very large dome over the fire to cut the oxygen? Every time I have a fire in my pan or pot I just Cover it with a lid and five minutes less smoke is gone fire is out. I don't know it just sounds crazy things are so simple but humans just don't want to do things the simple way.

@JBart3112

5 жыл бұрын

If that's the first thought you had, I may an idea why, but you're not going to like it.

@brandoncaldwell95

3 жыл бұрын

@@JBart3112 the only thing im taking away is the fact of so many cooking fires. Id be scared to eat there...

@jorgearreola6459

Жыл бұрын

What if you have victims entrapped? Now you cut off their oxygen source too and no 0% chance of survival

Just as your parents said “don’t play with your food “ also don’t play with your fire knock it down and keep it that way don’t stop and let it grow again, it’s not a game.......

@neillsmart213

5 жыл бұрын

About what I was thinking.... I'm not FENZ but kept thinking keep that shed cold it doesn't add fuel/heat/wind into the ceiling spaces

@albertledesma5173

5 жыл бұрын

Neill Smart What the hell did you even just say?!

Guy with the hose. To much screwing around

@DR-pq3ht

3 жыл бұрын

WE WANT TO SEE YOU DO BETTER!!! OTHERWISE ZIP YOU ASS!!!

That's an 1 3/4. NOT a deck gun WTF!?!?!?

What are these guys doing? What a terrible department!

@jacklemmon7910

3 жыл бұрын

They are putting out a fire. How is it a terrible department?

30 hours to put out a fire? 😂😂

A deck gun from the first in engine on the garage could've greatly reduced the damage to the home, I suspect. Not sure why so many departments are reluctant to use the water cannon in situations where water supply isn't an immediate issue. They had supply lines run, so I suspect hydrants were nearby.

@riamendez6840

4 жыл бұрын

roguejeff1 salinas was one of the places where the drought was effected ppl still couldn’t water their lawns or get fined that could be why?

the us fire department legit dont know what they are doing thwy should have the same training as the uk!

@lindahoff7391

5 жыл бұрын

Which is?

@riamendez6840

4 жыл бұрын

Liam Davison nah you know nothing about salinas everything in salinas sucks besides it’s location pretty city stupid ass ppl

@jacklemmon7910

3 жыл бұрын

@@riamendez6840 How does the fire department in Salinas "suck"?

don't forget to use water on the fire guys to many of them walking around

What a clown act. Putting out the fire was second or third, maybe fourth on the to-do list. They gave the fire more than it's fair chance to destroy everything. The rookie that first put water in the garage had no idea what to do, or next. Bust a hole in the roof so the fire there had a chance to breathe and spread... why wasn't water available at the time the roof was breached? I thought firemen were trained what to do to actually put out a fire ASAP?? I guess they figured the house was toast anyway, so what if it's burned? Yea, a true clown act, I'm glad I don't live in Salinas.

@jimmccabe801

5 жыл бұрын

Another expert. That's not there.

@googleuser6866

5 жыл бұрын

Don't need to be an expert. ANY reasonable person could see the milling around, no sense of co-ordination at actually putting out the fire. So many firemen and so little being done to actually extinguish the fire. They eventually got around to it but the delays were stunning, no urgency whatsoever. If my house was on fire these are the LAST guys I want showing up to put it out. The neighbors with garden hoses would have been more effective.

@albertledesma5173

5 жыл бұрын

Google User I have a strong suspicion you’ve never fought a fire in your life, and if you have, I highly doubt you’d be any better. Do I know that for sure? Not at all. Just a strong suspicion. Was this a well oiled operation? Not necessarily, but we also don’t know all the circumstances either. How do you know how many of those guys are new and needed more guidance? This could’ve been the first fire for a few of them. If you ARE a firefighter, were YOU “well oiled” on YOUR first fire? The skippers could’ve given them a little more guidance, sure, but they were putting a lot of heart into it. I know, heart doesn’t put fires out, but with time, experience and hopefully sitting down and learning from incidents they work, they’ll make great firefighters.

@mikepazzree1340

5 жыл бұрын

Concur , and yes I have fought fires. They looked like scared , adrenaline shaking rookie volunteers without any leadership

this is what we call a not so aggressive attack...i am sure most if not all people who comment on this were not there and don't have all the information...but come on guys get the wet stuff on the red stuff as fast and as safely as possible!!! go get it!

Always slow...

@pilaragrelo9565

3 жыл бұрын

Just water only water continuously water army of people and nothing

@brandoncaldwell95

3 жыл бұрын

They do not run on purpose. Dont like it, go suite up and do it yourself.

@Chickennoodle52

3 жыл бұрын

I hope you know its not as easy as get off the truck and boom water

@DR-pq3ht

3 жыл бұрын

GRAB A HOSE AND AN AX AND SHOW THEM HOW ITS DONE!!!!

@jacklemmon7910

3 жыл бұрын

shut up

2.5 in to start, need the reach and penetration. Then mop it up with 1.34 aggressively through front door.

a very pro outfit

those three fireman on the roof could be better help with a extra 75mm hose , Just a waste of time on the roof

@jimmccabe801

5 жыл бұрын

They're venting the roof.

@briangary1997

5 жыл бұрын

It would be a waste if the situation didn’t dictate that tactic, but it did. Well involved attached garage with fire in the cockloft on arrival. The layout was perfect for a vertical.

They are a joke you know if they hurry up and put out the fire they don't have nothing to do they put it out let it come back put it out let it come back

Wow so bad 😍😍

Come on now the city of new would have had 120 firefighters on that fire and out in 10 minutes. Themajestrium1 youtube.

@georgecoons6872

Жыл бұрын

New york.😅