This info and video are underrated! Good insight, legally sound and plenty of info to sink your teeth into.

@therealtruckingguy

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching

Thanks for the info 👍🏼

Good video! I appreciate the content about the business.

@therealtruckingguy

3 жыл бұрын

No problem thanks for watching

I'm looking to getting of big rig and getting into hot shot, this is good info

Very informative video. Thx!!

Cab / chassis or remove pickup bed, pull as long as you want (except Indiana). With PU bed intact, 65' limit (55' in Indiana) Bottomline

@luisarodriguez9566

2 жыл бұрын

We’re will you sleep if you remove the bed ??? Now you have another problem doesn’t you ? Why just not get a over length permit it’s like $250 for 3 months

great info!

I see a lot of cab chassis 3500’s for sale that have aftermarket beds put on them such as CM truck beds that are flat on top but have storage boxes underneath and goose neck ball installed on top. Before I buy one of these I need to know if those type beds make them trucks and therefore have to meet the 65 feet restriction. After watching this video I stopped looking for dually trucks and started only looking for Chassis cabs and don’t want to make a mistake of getting one of these chassis cabs and later find out that since an aftermarket bed was put on it I’m now it’s considered a truck vs tractor. Thanks

Great Tips Good Stuff 👍😀

Thank you thank you thank you 🙏🏻

@therealtruckingguy

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching

A mega cab is the exact same length as a Ram long box crew cab.

Tow Piglet did a video awhile back on this. He figured out that Big Tex was the only brand he could find that made a 40 footer with a shorter 8 ft neck that kept it legal on the 65' law with a long wheelbase crew cab pickup truck. Most of the other trailer makers have a neck closer to 9 feet as I understand it which is asking for it. With a cab and chassis or tractor trailer setup I believe that increases your limit to 75 feet pretty much everywhere including Indiana. Not sure how they get around the 60 foot deal in IN or WI though. You'd have to chop the deck down to 34 or 35 feet or run a regular cab pickup so I think a lot of guys just scoot around that one carefully in those states. Too bad all states can't all just agree on such nonsense to make everybody's life easier. The other thing you have to be careful with is the CA bridge law. 40 feet from the kingpin to the center of the rearmost trailer axle and hotshot trailers all have fixed axles of course, so do your homework on that one before you buy anything if you plan to operate in CA (or RI). If your trailer is legal in CA or RI it's legal in all other states and this is part of the reason all 53 ft dry vans have sliding tandems.

Mega cab is forced short bed to keep the length down. The crew cab and mega cab are same length

@franksmythe6969

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. I was gonna leave the same comment.

Thanks for taking the time to provide such detailed info. I'm currently waiting to take delivery on a 2 door ram 5500 with a 12' bed and a daimond C 48' step deck. My overall length is going to be 64' and some change. Staying under 65' can I still run a max 4' hang off the rear without a permit?

@therealtruckingguy

2 жыл бұрын

Yes

Just purchased a 2021 Ram 4500 60” CA and plan on pulling a 45’ trailer . Tried the tractor route and FL is saying it’s not possible.

@therealtruckingguy

2 жыл бұрын

All u have to do is run with no bed on the truck and ur good

I run a 2019 F350 dually with an 8ft bed and pull a Lamar 40ft low flat deck drive over and it measures 65' 1", how? The Lamar has a short Gooseneck that is about 9.5 inches shorter than PJ, Big Tex, Gator Made(The longest Gooseneck) and others. I wish I could take credit for the search yielding that when I bought it, but it was just dumb luck it turned out Lamar is the shortest Gooseneck in a new 40ft.. I have not been officially measure by DOT or Troopers, but checked it myself when I saw Nattily from Hot Shot Adventures do a video on her new 2022 F350 being over length by about 4 inches. Clad guys like you are doing these videos, really helps the average Joe Hotshot.

@therealtruckingguy

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching

Hard cold facts....can you do a video regarding deleted tracks and if DOT will even care?

@therealtruckingguy

3 жыл бұрын

You bet

@fritzduval

3 жыл бұрын

@@therealtruckingguy my man!

What about a 2022 Dodge Cummins crew cab with a 40' PJ Trailer? This is the setup I wish to run and I've been searching and searching this lenght but can not find anything on what that lenght might be. I do not wish to go the remove the bed and convert it with this truck, but future trucks I will.

@therealtruckingguy

2 жыл бұрын

U will be over length in most states on the 65 but they really only give u a hard time in the 60ft states

I’m at exactly 66ft but I like my bed Damn it😂

@carolinasouthernoutdoors7192

Жыл бұрын

Me 2 bro!!!! 😂 I’ll just purchase the permits for Florida

So even with a CDL, you still can’t be longer than 65 feet? Why? Is it because it’s not a semi? If I had a 3500 Ram dually mega cab with a 40 foot, would that be fine?

@The Trucking Guy Hey Man great video! I NEW to this gig. I have a Ram 3500 Crewcab long box from IA... What do you think I should do for trailer 30+5? Or take off the box and do 35+5? I'd like to run all 48.

@therealtruckingguy

3 жыл бұрын

Must have a 40ft Minimum to make money

@kalebdykstra8354

3 жыл бұрын

Good point (thanks), So... with my truck and 35+5 I'm going to be at 67' do I get permits for the states I'm going to hual in? Or take off the bed? Or get a shorter truck? I'm not sure and could really use/appreciate your input.

@therealtruckingguy

3 жыл бұрын

@@kalebdykstra8354 take off the bed and ur good to go

@mwdubinz

3 жыл бұрын

@Kaleb Dykstra , I am also trying to figure out what trailer will not exceed 65'. What year Ram and how many inches does it measure from the front bumper to the front of the gooseneck ball?

@therealtruckingguy

3 жыл бұрын

@@mwdubinz fron of truck and u need a 40ft trailer to make money

Please let me know if you're a lawyer and know I'm interpreting this wrong, but... If you are getting warned or ticketed for length violations that go on your record, and if you are running with a flatbed that has ramps for loading a vehicle (thus especially designed for hauling vehicles regardless of load), be sure to politely remind the officer of the law and/or take it to court if you have to because the law is pretty clear in all the states mentioned and it does not specify whether it is a truck or tractor pulling it... According to Indiana law 9-20-9-3: A combination of two vehicles coupled together, including load, may not exceed a total length of sixty feet, EXCEPT for the following: 1. Constructed to transport other vehicle or boats. ...and: Any number of vehicles in a combination coupled together: 1. that are especially constructed to transport other vehicles or boats; and 2. by the tow bar, saddle mount, or full mount methods ; may not exceed a total length of seventy-five feet. According to Missouri law 304.170 (which otherwise states a 65' limit): Automobile transporters, boat transporters, truck-trailer boat transporter combinations, and stinger-steered combination boat transporters having a length not in excess of seventy-five feet may be operated... and: Automobile transporters may transport cargo or general freight on a backhaul, as long as in compliance with weight limitations. Wisconsin only has a very general law of 70'.

@therealtruckingguy

3 жыл бұрын

Yes I would take it to court then but i and several people i know have had many violations with the length issues in those two states so idk what the answer is they don’t have a problem writing the tickets they write them all the time.

@jeffreyulery2182

3 жыл бұрын

@@therealtruckingguy print out the statue and put it in the glove box.

I have a Ram 5500 chassis Cab 84” CTA , I hade a CM hotshot bed installed , has 2 toolboxes and a deck, which I have a RDS 91gal auxiliary fuel tank Installed, will I have to remove the tool boxes because there considered as storage,

@therealtruckingguy

2 жыл бұрын

No they only care about the bed being able to hold stuff on top of it no the tool boxes

If I get cdl do I still need cab andchassis set up with my dodge ram 8 foot bed and 40 foot trailer totaling 65 nine

@therealtruckingguy

2 жыл бұрын

They would not ticket you on that but they will over 66ft

Hello, I have my CDL and I’m planning to buy a new f450 crew cab and a 40 foot trailer, I asked to another hotshot guys that have the same set up and a CDL and he told that I will be over the 65’ but that he never have an issue with the DOT for that, can you confirm that?

@therealtruckingguy

2 жыл бұрын

Yes you will have issues if you don’t take the bed off but its a small fine so you have to determine if its worth the risk for you. We have had a few tickets.

Thinking bout getting a ram 5500 with the hauler bed setup. Would I be legal with that setup pulling a 40ft trailer?

@therealtruckingguy

2 жыл бұрын

If it has a bed that can haul something on it can be in violation in some states

@rctjacksonville

2 жыл бұрын

There is no real advantage in a 5500 if your running non-CDL Hotshot. You have to scale under 26K no matter what.A 3500 and a 40ft flatbed or low deck is going to have a GVWC and in most cases is only going to allow about 10K cargo. Most people buying 40s are de-rating them to 12K because a 3500 has a GVWR of 14K making for a GVWC of 26K. The 5500 as a GVWR over 19K which means your trailer can only have a GVWR or 6K, which can't happen as the trailer weight is more then that amount. If your a CDL HotShot on that 5500 your limit is going to be north of 45K GVWC, basically your a tractor trailer, so snatch the bed off if it has one. Here is another piece of experience, if you are non-CDL and getting into HotShot wondering if CDL is better, do the math. While there are some 40K trailers out there, most 350s and 3500 will be at the very max of what is capable to tow when you get that heavy. Even 4500 and 450 are maxing at that point. The jump to 5500 is very expensive and that 40K trailer is not given away either. Running under 26K also allows you to run safer, last longer, less fuel and in most cases the insurance is cheaper. This is why I say if your CDL, buy a semi and trailer, scale to 80K and make more money. If non-CDL run a 350/3500, de-rate a 14K ( Use a de-rated 21K) and enjoy the light weight and maneuverability creating less stress. No matter what you might hear, there is not that much more money in the heavier pick up based Hotshot business.

Can you do a cab and chassis set up for a stepdeck 53 ft

@therealtruckingguy

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

@XSteele

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely

How's everything going Aaron? Still enjoying Florida? Just came across your channel.

@therealtruckingguy

2 жыл бұрын

Ya man still living life how u doing ?

@ictpilot

2 жыл бұрын

@@therealtruckingguy Hanging in there. Still doing the RV thing, got a 3/4 ton gas, towing with it, all I could find. Saving up for the new 1 ton diesel RAM. Tell the Boss I said hi and you come through my neck of the woods, beers on me.

I just bought a Ram 5500 C/C with the 204.5" wheelbase. If I'm hauling a 40' gooseneck, I'm running about 67' overall. You're telling me because it's a C/C that I'm not subject to the 65' rule? Maybe I don't know the right terminology or search criteria...but how can I verify that from a legality standpoint?

@therealtruckingguy

2 жыл бұрын

Check with trucking wins on KZread and insta hes a dot officer and can explain but yes is uou have cab and chassis ur good thats all they want

If im at 65ft turck and trailer but i have over hang am i over the limit? Or overhang doesn't take into consideration of overall length?

@therealtruckingguy

7 ай бұрын

Over hang does not go into the count and can be permitted as oversize freight

how does taking the bed off the truck make it shorter?

@therealtruckingguy

2 жыл бұрын

It doesn’t It’s just a stupid law where it makes it like a semi tractor instead of a pick up truck then

I ordered a 2022 Ram dually mega cab with the short bed what trailer do I need to buy to be legal?

@therealtruckingguy

3 жыл бұрын

U need a 40ft trailer to make any money but it not legal with out taking the bed off but that what everyone does

@karcusmanful

3 жыл бұрын

I've heard The Trailers guys will shorten your trailer tongue to make it legal, maybe its custom trailer order?

@therealtruckingguy

3 жыл бұрын

@@karcusmanful that would make the trailer hit the truck bed so i don’t think so.

@karcusmanful

3 жыл бұрын

@@therealtruckingguy Ok thanks, makes sense.

I have a 2021 ram 3500 daully crew cab long box.pull a Kaufman ez 4 47 ft trailer. Im under 65 feet .

@johnalvarez2454

2 жыл бұрын

Forgot to add its 5th wheel

Incorrect about hangover needing a permit. Most states you can have 4 or 5 ft in most states, it all depends on total length of trailer. In Missouri, you can run a flat deck on your bed IF you have corners cut out

@therealtruckingguy

3 жыл бұрын

Not sure what you mean by corners cut out and it verys by state fl will get you over length every time coming in they have gotten us as well as Wisconsin

@RedskinzFan

3 жыл бұрын

I’m referring to the corners of the flatbdeck on bed of truck. My partner was told by MIZZOU DOT to cut the corners off and he did and hasn’t had any citations since . Don’t know how or why but maybe check into it

Do you ever hear of anybody running a Ford Econoline Hot shoting?

@therealtruckingguy

2 жыл бұрын

No haven’t seen one.

Can I run a cab and chassis set up and still run under 26000lb for non cdl setup?

@therealtruckingguy

2 жыл бұрын

Yes u can

@fernandobonilla1444

2 жыл бұрын

@@therealtruckingguy question with a cab and chassis set up what is the max length of the truck and trailer combined?

Is the length the same if you have cdl

@therealtruckingguy

7 ай бұрын

Yes

67 with my shocker hitch but I like my bed and keeping it lol

@therealtruckingguy

3 жыл бұрын

Ya most people don’t want to take it off lol

Does anybody actually know the expenses of registering as a tractor? Can't imagine registration and insurance fees.

@therealtruckingguy

2 жыл бұрын

It doesn’t change anything the insurance goes off vin number so it stays the same and the registration of the tag goes off the weight so it also stays the same it would only be charged as a tractor if it was registered at 80,000 pounds which is double what a hotshot is semi’s are roughly $1600 a year where a hot shot is $800 a year. You also have to get a 2290 heavy use tax for a semi which is $500 you don’t have to get those for a hot shot. Even if you change the abbreviation to a tractor all you’re doing is removing the bed and changing the abbreviation from truck to tractor that’s it. Not a big deal.

@foryouuugamingcoalition7110

2 жыл бұрын

@@therealtruckingguy alright alright, seems like a no brainer then .As much as i would like to keep a bed on my truck for the added feeling i am driving a truck not a semi, it is looking like it is the only way to go if you getting a trailer worth wild, allot of trailers seem to be at 36 or 40 , not sure why i haven't seen some 38/39 foot trailers. adding at least 13 feet to your legal limit is huge if you can legally pull the weight. I was also unaware until recent that you had to register your truck with the potential weight you might carry , i thought it was use just register truck and you can pull whatever. weight fees i guess.

@flynlionrr

2 жыл бұрын

@@therealtruckingguy Have not found any info on how to change that, do you know of any?

@therealtruckingguy

2 жыл бұрын

@@flynlionrr whats the question?

@flynlionrr

2 жыл бұрын

@@therealtruckingguy I bought my 3500 as a C/C but its registration has truck, can;t find any info on how to change it to tractor

$90 to permit for the year,great right off...

@andrewlotterman79

3 жыл бұрын

Per state?

@Djtruckin

3 жыл бұрын

@@andrewlotterman79 per state that you drive in, that is correct.

@carlitos817

9 ай бұрын

What’s the website for the over length permits

I'm 66

What about height 🤔

@therealtruckingguy

3 жыл бұрын

13-6in is legal anything over needs a oversized permit

@latricestevenson584

3 жыл бұрын

@@therealtruckingguy thank you

I'm 66 will cab and chassis fix this problem?

@therealtruckingguy

3 жыл бұрын

Yes