Tyra's response to the hot mic faux pas on Twitter was HILARIOUS! ....."Any tips for working on drives? Asking for a friend.🤭"

@TheDinkPickleball

13 күн бұрын

She crushed that 💪

@martieknauss9641

13 күн бұрын

Her response went a long way to diffusing the entire situation. It'll blow over now. There's too much positive inertia behind Ben (and he's too valuable to pickleball).

@richhughes5784

13 күн бұрын

@@TheDinkPickleball unlike one of her drives

@downwinder3

11 күн бұрын

​@@martieknauss9641 it had already blown over. it was never anything

My conspiracy is that USAP approved the paddle without realizing how controversial it would be and that's where it stemmed from. Whether they lied about the reason or maybe they spoke with Joola before the ban, who knows

The biggest suit is Joola going after USA Pickleball for 100 million plus damages! So if Zane can’t out hit Jack, then Jack can’t play with his paddle and Zane has to provide him with one of his paddles…..sounds like if you don’t win then you have an inferior paddle, maybe you just need more training/drilling.

It’s more the fact that Tyra wasn’t playing. lol. She was just catching stays.

The problem with the hot mic situation is not that Ben was trash talking Tyra's drive, the problem is that he was mocking her behind her back. Ben could stand by his assessment of Tyra's drive, but still apologize for mocking her to get a cheap laugh out of AL and her mom.

@Johnny5pointOHpb

13 күн бұрын

This. Dignity still matters. Class is a lost art…

What other sport changes gameplay rules mid season? I have zero issues with rule changes between seasons, but give it more than just 1 event before making changes.

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Ben had a clerical error, submitted the wrong words 🤷🏻

If Ben wants to offer Tyra, an apology in private, that’s his prerogative. But here’s the deal. Good players recognize other players weaknesses and they exploit them. For him to be caught on a hot mic was just him being honest and you don’t need to punish anybody for being honest. If it hurt her feelings then maybe he does need to offer her a private apology but he doesn’t owe anybody anything else. Ridiculous cancel culture.

This is my theory and may be backed up by information John Kew got via Vatic. USAP has an equipment standards manual. When manufacturers submit their paddles I believe they are supposed to describe the makeup/content/design of the paddle. USAP tests the paddle but does not cut it open and relies on the manufacturer's attestation/form/signature that they paddle is within the standards. Then the results of the tests (which are point in time as opposed to over time) determine initial approval. When paddles get a lot of publicity/marketing as being like a trampoline, using compressible foam, etc and becoming way to "hot," USAP then cuts them open to determine what is inside and if it violates the equipment standards manual (specifically prohibited features "2.E.6.f Springs or spring-like material, flexible membranes or any compressible material that creates a trampoline effect." and "2.E.6.b Rubber and synthetic rubber.") and if is has prohibited internals they take the paddle off the approved list on this basis and that the manufacturer knowingly submitted paddles in violation of the standards and didn't disclose the full internals of the paddle to USAP when they submitted the paddles for testing.

The significance of the National Fox feed was that it stayed on the womens doubles match to the end, despite it going beyond the two hour time slot allotted. The broadcast ran into the start of the MLS match that was scheduled to be aired.

I can only imagine what Ben says about Zane 😀

I’d really like a hybrid system of mlp scoring where once one team gets to a game point it goes into “lockdown” mode for the rest of the game where neither team gets a point on a side out.

Chirping to an opponent on the court is not the same as speaking negatively behind one's back to an audience. I have done both.

I got a Scorpius 3 before the controversy started. There's still too much mystery and indeterminacy. It took a while to get used to it, and I'm not switching to something else while there is possibility/likelihood of resolution and relisting.

I would say 85% of those I play with have refused to use theirs. All 4.0-5.0 players.

@WisdomInsightReality

11 күн бұрын

Soft, afraid of a little whiffle ball. Wear eye protection.

They talked about Anna Bright’s drive was more of a hybrid of a drive and drop not really criticizing it. Then Ben brought up Tyra’s underspin drive that was hard to do anything with. (That could be construed as a compliment) but he goes on to say it is sh#*ty.” Did she even play tennis?”

The one thing I like about Gen 3 paddles/Gearbox/Oni/Vice is their ability to pull the ball out of the air easily. They have so much plow through in the air resets are on the stupid end of easy. I wish I could get that out of a normal paddle without all the heat.

@ThiccBoi23

12 күн бұрын

Which negates the importance of the skill.

It was on pickle ball TV!

Seriously....What sounds better: "It was an mistake or admin error" or " you got me, I did it on purpose"?

Pickleball is at a similar spot to where UFC was in the early 2000's. Yeah it has been around a lot longer, but people are coming to the sport that have backgrounds in other raquet / paddle sports and the cross training / knowledge is going to lead to an evolution in sport and massive growth in technique and strategy. The game in 10 years isn't going to look like it does today and the competition will be at an insane high level. Ben Johns is like Ken Shamrock, you haven't even seen Anderson Silva or Jon Jones start playing yet.

My hypothesis is that this is how we solve the “technology is going to ruin the sport! Hot paddles are going to turn pickleball into racquetball!” problem. Joola is just the example, just like what happened with Daescu.

@WisdomInsightReality

11 күн бұрын

Pickleball is not Racquetball, terrible analogy.

@jaybird1596

11 күн бұрын

@@WisdomInsightReality the analogy is that technology killed racquetball not that pickleball is similar to racquetball. I'm also quoting this argument as one pros have mentioned (Navratil, Rettenmeier, etc).

You can call BS on the administrative error, but you are just pulling that out of a bodily orifice. But you said it "I am ready to believe anything", an interesting admission against interest, but very revealing.

Can we talk about why isn't gearbox hasn't been banned yet either? 🤔

I work at Dick's on So Cal, and the gen 3 Joola's are still on the wall for sale

Vatic & Ronbus paddles were de-listed and banned due to a coefficient of restitution (essentially exit velocity) test new from USAP that is being retroactively tested on approved paddles - whether or not that is what's happening to the Gen 3s is anyone's guess lol

it was a trash off between tammy emmerich and the girlfriend

ALZ cure is a MUST!!

BTW.....about Florida NHL attendance..... we're now in June. Being from PA, we see all the snowbirds who love Fla hockey have already fled to cooler temps in the Mid Atlantic area.

Another issue is the USAp represents far more players in tournaments then does the new organization or the pro leagues so it affects a greater number of people if the USAP bans these Paddles

What happens with APP Tour and paddles being approved then?

The group I play with is generally happy when I pull my Magnus out. I am terrible with it compared to my RAW Hive. I definitely am not using my Magnus in any rec play with randos or in tournaments, although I am definitely taking it out against anyone else using a Gen 3, an Oni, or a GBPP.

@LowDinksHijinxPickleball

13 күн бұрын

Your friends are happy when the quality of rec play goes down because it makes it easier for them to win? That's lame.

@vanadyan1674

13 күн бұрын

@@LowDinksHijinxPickleball To be fair to them I am already the best of our regular group, so it does make it slightly more evenly competitive when I am not playing my best.

Get your butt up here and visit Bend!

Where did the live chat go? 48:06

Laughed pretty hard when Thomas was calling for more journalism in the sport and for people to dig into player storylines more. That’s literally your job bro! You run a pickleball news outlet. What are you doing?

The people want the details of hot mic scandals repeated verbatim, and quoted to the person. That's why we listen to the Pod - to get the ugly details that don't get covered by the squeaky clean pickleball press. Give the people what they want! Now I have to listen to Jimmy Miller because at least he'll name and shame.

maybe it was Tyra's bad drive that knocked the sticker off James paddle! lol

As someone who lives in the Austin area. How can I link up with y'all to play some matches?

@jcotner00

12 күн бұрын

@@fasteddie360 which one’s your favorite?

What about Utah for up-and-coming players???

All the Florida Panther games are sold out because I have been to all the playoff games

Didn't Tyra beat ALW in singles with that forehand

My theory: USPA certified the Alpha paddle. Joola did make a mistake and submitted the wrong paddle for Gen 3. USAP decides it should not have allowed the Gen 3. Joola argues it is really the same design as the Alpha. USAP then realizes this is true and removes the Alpha paddle also. Joola argues USPA has to use the same standards for all paddles or they will sue (and win easily). USPA doubles down and removes all paddles using similar cores. All these companies will sue USPA for changing standards without notification. USPA is in big trouble and will have to change or get sued into bankruptcy. The whole thing is bad for the sport!

@WisdomInsightReality

11 күн бұрын

Exactly, but it's not bad for the sport, as USAP paddle testing needs to go.

My wildass conspiracy theory is that Selkirk is behind it all. #followthemoney #bigpickle /s

@WisdomInsightReality

11 күн бұрын

They are definitely cheering it on, and doing their best to capitalize. That's business.

He definitely privately apologized. All that matters

7:09 it's "EVA" foam, not EVO foam.

I think it's not good to have microphones in the time-out area. That should be private conversation because they may also be discussing their strategies and such, which shouldn't be broadcast for other players/teams/public to be privy to.

Pretty big lawsuit against Pickleball Rocks' Rodney Grubbs! ;-)

Another perspective on experimenting. Experiment away but not on televised events if you want to increase viewership. Most of the people who watch pickleball, play pickleball, and they are not all junkies that follow all the pods and hub bub. If these events use significantly different rules than the people who play pickleball use then they will have a hard time following the game you will lose viewership.

People have lost vision from a retinal detachment. I personally know of two individuals. The people who would be liable are the players that hit the ball and the facility.

@trumpisastump9382

12 күн бұрын

If players don't wear eye protection, they are the ones liable for their own injuries.

@tonym753

12 күн бұрын

If it’s a paid membership pb club and they allow delisted/banned paddles to be used to hit the ball, does the club have liability if someone is injured. I saw a player flattened to ground after taken a shot to the eye from a joola gen3

@williamstevenson755

12 күн бұрын

Very sad and concerning to hear about your friends’ injuries. Most states would not allow recovery due to assumption of the risk. If it were not the case, there would be no tennis without mandatory eye wear as those balls have more mass and come off the racquet far faster than a pickleball. Getting hit while standing near the net by a blistering drive from a tennis ball is every bit as dangerous. That being said, prudence would dictate that eye protection may be advised in pickleball.

@WisdomInsightReality

11 күн бұрын

Wear protective eyewear.

@philmeyer2367

4 күн бұрын

I also have a friend that had a detached retina from being hit by a pickleball.

Simone is moving to Nashville? Missed that tidbit of news.

If i were any of the players Id talk game away from my bench but at the bench just say random stuff- Did you know it took Zane 3 times to pass his Drivers License test- did you hear Missouri is dedicating Aug 5th Dylan Frazier day…. Bring in some dad jokes. Ben should ask AL if she can solve some math problem that he learned from college. We ask for mics then get pissy when Bens talking trash- kinda unfair to the players

I recognize Zane Navratil. Who is the other guy?

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH!!!!!!! GABE TARDIO WAS THE NUMBER ONE JUNIOR PLAYER IN BOLIVIA! NO TENNIS BACKGROUND WHAT!???!

Love the idea. Over 70 ok and would be great for wheelchair decisions.

😊

Theory: The intent of all of this was intentional from Joola. I also think PPA/UPA is associated with this scheme too. They wanted to be sued, and they knew that their paddle was illegal. They intentionally sent in the incorrect paddle so they could create this issue with USAPA and in the end sue them. Causing USAPA to fall in the long run and UPA to take control (which is basically the PPA). Which also is a terrible thing for the PPA to be the governing body of pickleball in general as the only thing the PPA is concerned with is money, not the wellbeing of the sport. USAPA actually seems to listen to the people when there are actual complaints about things, obviously since all of this is happening. It may be slow sometimes but in the end they are trying to keep the integrity of the sport in tact. Now for those of you who are going to say that the UPA has been backing the decisions made by USAPA with these paddles. I am willing to bet they are doing it as a fake sign of "respect" so when USAPA does crumble down, UPA will just come swoop in and save the day and no one will think anything when they do. I think the PPA/UPA is corrupt and has some sort of deal with Joola to where they will be powerhouses together dominating the sport as a whole. And in the long run with possibly be the worst thing to happen for the sport and it just turn into body bag central when we just get to the point of not having control anymore. Just my idea though. Thanks for reading all the way through!

The class action lawsuit against Joola is small potatoes, has no merit, and is the equivalent of pissing in the wind.

I wanna hear Rafas hot mic. Where can I find that.

Anybody who plays have critiqued other people game including my friends. What Ben said isnt anything he probably wouldnt have said to her face. People need to drop it!

@godgunsandgoldens

13 күн бұрын

The problem is he said it to the Pickleball world which is an embarrassment to Tyra.

I love this $200,000,000.00 lawsuit against the USAP, it's long overdue!.They have no transparency, and no accountability, they're a black hole. What independent body is overseeing the USAP testing model, holding them accountable, making them more timely, more responsive to their clients? The USAP is the problem! Who is the third party tester, what exact test's are they doing, what exact scientific equipment are they using, where are their detailed, published, scientific test results for each paddle tested? The USAP collects too much money, tens of millions of dollars, to be shrouded in such secrecy. Sunlight is the best disenfectant. Pickleball is going soft with all this talk about injury, liability etc. There's a simple solution, wear protective eyewear, this is a simple, cheap solution. Don't dumb down pickleball more then it already is. Be progressive, continue to evolve, keep an open mind, remember your fans/viewers.

@MLB1212

10 күн бұрын

There has been a continuing influx of new pb players into the sport/anctivity over the last few years. Many of them don’t wear protective eyewear. If the pb community tries to limit ball speed to protect those who do not fully understand the risk, isn’t it actually beneficial to all of us? Moreover, mlb bans aluminum bats that can be manufactured to be lighter, faster and more powerful than wooden bats. Doesn’t mlb still retain adequate appreciation by baseball fans despite this rule?

@WisdomInsightReality

10 күн бұрын

@@MLB1212 comparing pickleball to MLB is laughable, MLB has been around forever, is one of the big four major pro sports, is considered America's past time, and by the way, at all levels, both pro and amateur they wear protective helmets. Pickleball is desperately trying to gain traction at the pro level, and if it's not considered exciting and dynamic to watch(both TV and streaming), then they won't get major TV contracts/sponsors/eyeballs. Protective eyewear is as cheap as $1.50 at the dollar store, you just poke the lenses out. There are also many skill levels in pickleball at the amateur level, so you can pick your skill/speed/comfort level.

Rules and equip should be the same for pros and ams. Pb needs to take a lesson from golf. USGA and the R&A got together to streamline things and eliminate bifurcation. This is not baseball. Golf set COR limits on drivers because balls were going too far. Just cool paddles down and all will be fine. It’s just a plastic ball hit over a plastic net with a plastic paddle.

when there are so many GB PPE on the courts...CMON. Joola G3 is not even as fast. BALONEY. USAP needs to get its act together.

5.0s should not be using it in rec play. I have gen 2 and still get shit

It accomplishes maintaining a healthy relationship with your fellow tour players. It can be private. He’s not a leader so my guess is he’ll remain silent.

I posted my theory on reddit but got hella downvoted :/, but here it is. Since the PPA and MLP merged and established the UPAA, they could be trying to stir the pot on how bad USAP is at getting things done efficiently. They could be staging a mutiny as the main governing body of pickleball.

@TheDinkPickleball

13 күн бұрын

🤔🤔🤔

@LowDinksHijinxPickleball

13 күн бұрын

You'd have negative downvotes here if KZread actually showed them.

I don’t think a hat falling into the kitchen would be a fault. The rule talks about you, whatever is connected to you, and your paddle. Once your hat comes off it wouldn’t be apart of you.

@LowDinksHijinxPickleball

13 күн бұрын

Well you're wrong.

@adamheath4599

13 күн бұрын

@@LowDinksHijinxPickleball explain. Don’t forget to quote the rulebook.

@LowDinksHijinxPickleball

13 күн бұрын

@@adamheath4599 "USA Pickleball Official Rulebook (2024), Rule #11.H: Items on the Court. If any item a player is/was wearing or carrying lands on their end of the court, unless the item lands in the non-volley zone as a result of a volley, the ball remains in play even if it hits the item." The inclusion of the word "unless" means that if anything you're wearing DOES land in the kitchen during a volley, the ball does not remain in play - because the point is over due to a kitchen violation.

@adamheath4599

13 күн бұрын

@@LowDinksHijinxPickleball okay fair enough. Thanks

@WisdomInsightReality

11 күн бұрын

It's a fault.

Your recollection of games is lacking. Take notes! James and Anna were playing Dylan and Tyra. Ben and James were playing Gabe and Riley.

Joola has dug a deep hole. They admitted they had it administrative error whatever that means. They now need a refund probably a half $1 million worth of paddles will now be worthless and now they will have to spend a bunch of money in legal costs. Not a good situation for them.. And now they have to put more money in to defend against class action suits. The one good thing they did was offer a full refund, which is probably their best response to remedy the damages, but you can claim damages outside of the cost of the Paddle itself. They may be frivolous claims but they still need to be addressed and that cost money. The other thing they did was to not allow anybody to sell the GEN three Paddle in the first week other than themselves so now they have to deal with the lion chair of these paddles that will be banned and need to be refunded or replaced at a greater cost. This is not the first instance of something like this happening. Gage had a similar issue a while back, pro light had an issue as well Crbn Paddles, etc..

Yes, Joola files $200,000,000.00 lawsuit, I love it! You wanna mess around USAP, let's go, welcome to the real world, pickleball is a real sport now, not your private backyard treehouse/playground. Your actions now have real world consequences! :) Go Joola!

Why would joola say admin error if it wasnt?

Women losing their rights and democracy under attack but yeah let's cry about Ben's comment about another player.