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@lee.bateman Жыл бұрын
As a mental health nurse with 20 years clinical experience this whole scene is quite embarrassing. The threshold for sections under the mental health act, which I assume this is, is very high. What's clear with this lady is that whilst she is very well presented, and appears to have capacity, she isn't able to retain what anyone is saying. She doesn't appear able to weigh up information, and make a decision. She likely lacks capacity, as per the Mental Capacity Act. The asbestos comment is a bit odd and alerted the hospital staff to make further investigations. Hospitals are snowed under so generally don't follow people into the street. Therefore, having a dozen people surrounding her trying to reason with her is more likely to traumatize her, rather than lead to a return to hospital. She is unable to reason based on the footage, is scared and likely quite unwell. Whilst sounding archaic a more assertive approach and swift return to hospital whilst not a good thing is likely to lead to a better outcome. This should have taken five minutes rather than been allowed to develop into the circus it did, which is a complete waste of resources and bad for the ladies mental health.
@stuartgmk
Жыл бұрын
👍
@chris78ceecee72
Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@stevesvids
Жыл бұрын
Very complex situation. 😢 poor woman. Hope she is safe, warm and well. I wonder what the real truth was behind this story 🤔 We'll never know.
@wavell14
Жыл бұрын
NHS staff are unable to reason. She seems a lot more capable of weighing up information than your average NHS employee.
@Lee.Willcox
Жыл бұрын
I could not agree more. I worked at Elmleigh in Havant and also Hollybank same town. None of us would ever leave our patients/residents alone to create a farce or drama that would only be detrimental to them or staff. We worked as family and friends. What ever went on outside, stayed outside. We would get Council workers trying to fine some of our residents that were allowed out for dropping cigarette butts just outside our property line in the public domain. The Fag Butt Police spread the word that patients here would drop litter and butts so they hung around in bushes, I kid you not. When the residents came in all wound up, the 3rd Party Council workers thought it was OK for them to come in and find out the details of our patients so they could dish out a fine. WE RAN THEM OFF THE PROPERTY. I then made it my mission to go clean up outside. We made complaints to the council and the Fag Butt Police on commission were told to STAY AWAY. It is a really serious issue, when people being looked after for not being completely well, can not even go out for 5 minutes before someone comes along and destroys months of work.
@pasty.muncher Жыл бұрын
Fucking masks, 3 years in 😂😂
@reign7770
Жыл бұрын
Because they reduce the risk of catching illnesses? Use your head
@paulpaul9914
Жыл бұрын
There was a recent high quality metastudy showing facerags = useless - the Cochrane editor in chief clown is trying to get the authors to back peddle & declare that despite the facts the forced useage filthy face rag garbage might be a good idea.
@pjoseph5950
Жыл бұрын
Clowns mate
@nigelwatson2750
Жыл бұрын
It's a cult. kzread.info/dash/bejne/qX-m16WseM23dsY.html
@TruthTortoise81
Жыл бұрын
because nurses and doctors never wore masks before the pandemic.
@jackwatsonepic626 Жыл бұрын
So why has that head nurse got a mask on in the street when nobody else has 🤔
@greg5639
Жыл бұрын
She thinks it will help make the public think that there's some airborne palutent that unalives people by the masses. She loved the sheeple clapping for her and her comrades , making them feel like hero's that she knew they were not ! These nurses knew it was all bull shit from the beginning, empty hospitals where they could spend all the shift doing tic toc and playing with their phones. I will never trust the N H S again.
@mikehipperson Жыл бұрын
It'll never get better if you picket! Since when, during the last 3 years, were the NHS worried about people's mental health and wellbeing?
@wavell14
Жыл бұрын
The NHS is primarily a far left political organ. Nothing to do with health.
@stuartgmk
Жыл бұрын
👍👍
@alisonhilll4317
Жыл бұрын
The government haven't cared for years , if they don't pay people properly its there fault .
@nospoon4799
Жыл бұрын
Erm never. This is about using the law to persecute people and discredit their truth.
@amyshoneye5455
Жыл бұрын
❤❤❤🎉
@MassiveBenny Жыл бұрын
So I can't get a hospital appointment for love nor money but they'll happily spend hours of their time dragging women off the street who DON'T want one?
@thegrinderman1090
Жыл бұрын
If she gets away they might lose their job. Whether you live or die outside their care doesn't affect them. Not saying that as a criticism necessarily, just the way it goes. I spend far more of my time and effort trying to fix the minor problems in my life, than I do donating to malaria charities to literally save lives. We're selfish creatures.
@fasteee Жыл бұрын
Those ZOMBIES wearing face nappies are embarrassing
@DarrenHoussein
Жыл бұрын
Let us wear face masks if we choose to, you muppet. There's more valid things you could criticise from these weirdos.
@bikeelectric4821 Жыл бұрын
12:20 how many times does she have to say "NO" before it's harassment? 72 times, apparently
@johntracey4196
Жыл бұрын
spot on there FORCING her to be a voluntary patient
@unseenrecordings
Жыл бұрын
@@johntracey4196 there must be a part 2 , there have been cases of ppl getting sectioned for mentioning chemtrails to their gp. it's theylive feat. the uk health security agency
@DJFAmenHeavy Жыл бұрын
Absolutely no need for the security goons to be there.
@stepawa
Жыл бұрын
especially that steroid boy at the end of the video
@keithdrummond5527
Жыл бұрын
@@stepawa yes the steroid idiot flexing,what a twat
@geoffbreen2386
Жыл бұрын
They had nothing else to do. So you must ask why are so many employed? Just like the covid test sites full of security but very few patients/clients/people wanting testing. And that has spread to the "Job Centres". Too many stuff with nothing to do, too many security with nothing to do. They hate people with cameras fearing the public will see what a waste of money they are. This government knows how to waste money and to line their own pockets.
@DJFAmenHeavy
Жыл бұрын
@Hugo I don’t know what a ‘blc’ woman is, but every human has potential for aggression. There was not a hint of aggression from this person, so clearly no need for the security heavies. I’m sure a couple of cops could have restrained her if she turned nasty, she’s only small.
@DJFAmenHeavy
Жыл бұрын
@Hugo *their Dude, your spelling and grammar is atrocious. I have no hope you are a decent human. If you want to spout racist nonsense, at least have the balls to say ‘black’…..
@weefreedavielittle Жыл бұрын
Using mental health as another control weapon ? No theyd never do that 😮
@roadracermark7946 Жыл бұрын
What's this country come to when a person is surrounded and corralled by security because she's made a decision of her own free will. This country is the pits. She's far more "with it" than the hundreds of crack addicts that roam the streets... don't see the police trying to get them help in a hospital. This situation reminds me of the summer of 2020 when people were being accosted by police and medical staff for nothing more than a sniffle.
@karlvincent5291 Жыл бұрын
Lady is fine . Don't go to the hospital. They just want to give you 5 boosters
@outspokenwitness8744 Жыл бұрын
I can't believe the security guards have any jurisdiction outside of the hospital.
@WeAreThePeople1690
Жыл бұрын
They don't!
@abrut6564
Жыл бұрын
Something eerie about this video my friend, i hope Charlie keeps contact with the lass
@h07swilkinson96
Жыл бұрын
Well that’s where you’re wrong, assuming the lady is on a DoLS, security have every right to assist the Nurse in preventing the patent from absconding.
@charliesteward2528
Жыл бұрын
@@h07swilkinson96 If a person is in hospital they should not be subject to the DoLS if they meet the criteria for detention under the Mental Health Act.
@Authentic_og
Жыл бұрын
@@h07swilkinson96 if she was there would or should be no reason how she got off the hospital grounds... Whilst making a few off the wall comments about asbestos etc. This could be down to the stressful situation she now finds herself in.
@JuxtaPositionings Жыл бұрын
Massive overreach from the state. NHS are under enough pressure as it is without trying to force someone to be treated when they don’t want to. Without cameras I’m sure she would have been dragged away and probably sectioned, all because of opinions of a misguided nurse. Dangerous times
@wavell14
Жыл бұрын
NHS under pressure hahaha
@Dehydratedpencil
Жыл бұрын
Fuck the NHS. Defund the entire system
@popart9350
Жыл бұрын
Did you know the Nhs is a blue print of mengeles
@Anubis_-_
Жыл бұрын
@@popart9350 have you any links, brother? Every time I’ve went to research that I can never find anything on it. Plenty about them creating NASA and the good ol CIA though
@popart9350
Жыл бұрын
@@Anubis_-_ it was few years back if im right it will of been History channel mate ww11 related to rise of national SOCIALISM but was definately featured
@richardtheeighth4431 Жыл бұрын
Those private security vultures should be caged in the scavengers section along with the other animals in the Churchill House Zoo.
@user-cw8pb7do6l
Жыл бұрын
you mean the security staff therre to protect the staff and visitors
@lifeguard2564 Жыл бұрын
Misuse of the Mental Capacity Act will have happened here. Someone I know went through the same thing. Didn’t consent to treatment, got threatened with being sedated, feared for his safety and left. 2 hours later he had police threatening to kick his door in. Said under the Mental Capacity Act he had no choice but to go back. That Act is designed for the dementia patient walking around in their nightwear or the guy so drugged up he’s a danger to himself. Shouldn’t be used in general medicine.
@slees1847
Жыл бұрын
If ever I’ve seen a comment which tells me the author doesn’t know what they’re talking about, this is it
@Fatgucci1017
Жыл бұрын
@@slees1847 Give the correct info then big bo*locks?
@JohnSmith-wq5oi
Жыл бұрын
@@slees1847 Care to elaborate genius?
@lifeguard2564
Жыл бұрын
@@slees1847 Yes, I’m always up for learning new things so educate me. Spotlight is yours.
@theludixblaster Жыл бұрын
Bless that lady. No need for all that
@willking1625
Жыл бұрын
Clearly Harassment
@reign7770
Жыл бұрын
@@willking1625 that's what you get from a 5 min clip, clearly there's more going on 🤦
@wildphil64
Жыл бұрын
@@reign7770 it’s horrible seeing people in a highly stressful situation. I can only assume that there is indeed a lot more going on. Love to the poor lady. ❤
@TruthTortoise81
Жыл бұрын
@@reign7770 Like what? The only person in that video making any sense was that woman. Nobody else seemed to know what they were supposed to be doing.
@ricericebaby69
Жыл бұрын
Wasting tax payers money the lot of them
@ubiquitousdiabolus Жыл бұрын
Charlie needs to be careful messing with the staff at these hospitals or during the next interaction, he might suddenly find that he has been placed under a care order.
@andycapp5581
Жыл бұрын
@@FoxtrotYankeeHotel grammar?
@narajuna
Жыл бұрын
Yes some Dr Tar's out there wanting to diagnose.
@hardwatergaming7965 Жыл бұрын
'Go with the policeman, nothing bad will happen'. Worked a treat for Sarah Everard.
@noelward8047
Жыл бұрын
That was a very different situation.
@mannymac6678
Жыл бұрын
Well said, would love to hear what Charlie's response to that would be.
@vladjones2446
Жыл бұрын
@@noelward8047 Yes Obviously but you’re missing the point: the police are not innately trustworthy because they have a uniform and collar number
@dino575
Жыл бұрын
what a stupid comment! We do not know this womans history so can assess but to have nurses and police around her suggests something more to this. You are an idiot by even trying to compare this to the maniac that butchered Sarah Everard.
@gazmack6196
Жыл бұрын
You clearly need to have a good look at your post, then think again.
@supernovadeano Жыл бұрын
Imagine if you wasn't there filming that. The way they were surrounding and following her was very scary and intimidating
@juli-annemargerison3747 Жыл бұрын
She shouldn't go any where near the police FACT .... STAY AWAY FROM HOSPITALS!!!
@Angela68439 Жыл бұрын
Why are 5 male security guards stood around her embarrassing her is she really that much of a risk
@Silphwave
Жыл бұрын
Legit. One or two would have sufficed.
@TheDazman50 Жыл бұрын
You can be put under a care order if you know too much. A frightening state.
@nospoon4799
Жыл бұрын
They can try. They will fail with anyone who knows what they are trying to do. What do you know Daz? Anything juicy?
@spencerhardy8667
Жыл бұрын
You have been Assanged.
@tonykennedy1615 Жыл бұрын
She's more likely to be harmed than helped in the "healthcare" system.
@wavell14
Жыл бұрын
Spot on Tony.
@amyshoneye5455
Жыл бұрын
Exactly 💯 Ask a random selection of people about Their experience over the last decade, Never mind 3yrs, and you're sure 2B told a fair few stories That'd make your toes curl my love 😮❤🎉
@richard21995
Жыл бұрын
Afraid So
@wealdstoneraider5364
Жыл бұрын
Who is going to harm her tony?
@tonykennedy1615
Жыл бұрын
@@wealdstoneraider5364 Lol.
@cl1ff0 Жыл бұрын
TBF they could start by taking the masks off to be more human if they "care"!
@odindave6506 Жыл бұрын
Having 5 hospital security is far too heavy handed and scary. Why couldn't they just move off and allow the 1 cop and the 1 nurse to talk to her in comfort?
@judgemayhem3087 Жыл бұрын
Chris Veitch - When the lady requested from you that she needed help to attach her bag on her trolley, but you remarked you had to go because you had another appointment to attend. Then you stand there continuing the video 😂😂😂 so much for morals and social media profiteering 😂
@paulpaul9914 Жыл бұрын
Clearly an extremely dangerous shopping lady, a significant threat to herself & most of Manchester. More security, law enforcement & medical authority peeps obviously required. Probably needs the armed forces, coast guard & god knows what else to attend as well to be safe, can they get HMS Safesure (type 42) up the Manchester Ship Canal?
@scottandrewhorne4655
Жыл бұрын
Ha ha BRILLIANT COMMENT God Bless You Amen xxxxxxx And God Bless Your Earthly Life Time And Earthly Family Amen xxxxxxx
@chrisroake1687
Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@jackwatsonepic626
Жыл бұрын
I can see you're taking the piss out of the situation but it's true what you're saying it is an absolute load of BS 😅 good one 👍
@my-king Жыл бұрын
I feel so bad for this lady. True or not, she was scared. She didn't trust anyone and she was being surrounded by people in public. She needed someone to trust desperately. I just imagine my mum in this situation and I'd furious with what is happening. This should have been handled much better and more dignified.
@PrincessD855
Жыл бұрын
This is disgusting to watch how the nurses private security and police are behaving towards this lady who is clearly aware of the situation and has full capacity
@slickmouse Жыл бұрын
Charlie, you bottled it.
@RossTheNinja Жыл бұрын
I don't think surrounding a woman with security guards, especially if she has mental health problems, is a good way to respond.
@michaelh7453 Жыл бұрын
Why has the nurse got a face nappy on?
@TruthTortoise81
Жыл бұрын
dunno. why has she got a pen in her hair? i think she's acting strange and someone should call the cops on her.
@wavell14 Жыл бұрын
The NHS makes me sick to my stomach.
@nospoon4799
Жыл бұрын
Awful aren't they. Privatisation will make this much worse.
@wavell14
Жыл бұрын
@@nospoon4799 No it won't. Look to Germany for a far superior privatised system.
@nospoon4799
Жыл бұрын
@@wavell14 This is deliberate. They are running the NHS badly to create an argument for privatisation. Then the private investors get to reap the rewards of decades of tax payer investment in our system. Standard Britain. Just look at the railways, same pattern. Look at the energy sector, same pattern. I could go on.
@wavell14
Жыл бұрын
@@paullbennett2923 Do you know anything about how healthcare works in France or Germany? You do realise there is an alternative to socialist incompetence?
@kfckillie1
Жыл бұрын
Don't use it then...🤬
@DH-zp7bc Жыл бұрын
Why are they still wearing the silly muzzles?
@barrysims9906 Жыл бұрын
you are right Charlie. Those security goons in gloves need to move on. they are intimidating her.
@johntracey4196 Жыл бұрын
if she hasn't been sectioned then there just bullying her surrounded by brown shirts
@TruthTortoise81
Жыл бұрын
exactly.
@TheDazman50 Жыл бұрын
Trust the cop ! WTF
@stuartd920 Жыл бұрын
Why are people still wearing masks outside now? Can't imagine they all have COVID?
@MS-196x Жыл бұрын
The poor lady's mental anxiety probably wasn't helped by the fact the nurses and hospital security guards had their faces covered whilst they were outside 🤷🏻♂️😷🤤. I hope she got the care she needed 🙏🏻
@steve26472 Жыл бұрын
poor poor show charlie, the content for your video asks for help getting a taxi and you hit her with "oh im busy, i gotta go". Practice what you preach
@PINACI Жыл бұрын
Private security blocking her way preventing her from leaving = false imprisonment.
@h07swilkinson96
Жыл бұрын
@PINACI Well, it’s not if it’s a lawful detention, it’s quite clear to see that the nurses have take her liberty for whatever reason, most likely on a DoLS. So security have the authority to assist in lawful detention, just like anyone does under common law.
@mannymac6678
Жыл бұрын
@@h07swilkinson96Those who deny freedom to others, deserve it NOT for themselves!
@PINACI
Жыл бұрын
@@h07swilkinson96 Well she said she's not under any care order, and if that's the case then private security or the police don't have any authority to detain her without a crime. Especially private NHS security on the street. Private security are not there to do the bidding of what a nurse wants on a public street. Their job is to protect staff and patients who are on NHS property and nothing more. No free adult is obligated to remain in hospital if they choose to leave. So if there isn't any care order in place then it's false imprisonment.
@h07swilkinson96
Жыл бұрын
@@PINACI Exactly, the patent said that she’s not, however the trained health care professional said that she is. And you’re wrong, Security and Police do have the authority to assist the Nurse in her detention. You do not have to commit a crime for your liberty to be taken away.
@PINACI
Жыл бұрын
@@h07swilkinson96 What I said is correct... ( Well she said she's not under any care order, and if that's the case then...... )
@tonyryan6435 Жыл бұрын
And there is a example,all the private security , a nurse, wandering around Manchester, taxpayers money being wasted
@keithsmith8525 Жыл бұрын
She has every right too refuse treatment and that nurse is acting unethically IF she is coercing a patient, rather than as an advocate.
@keithsmith8525
Жыл бұрын
@skinjim123 clearly not under a section as she would not be in the community. She appears lucid, coherent and in control.
@h07swilkinson96
Жыл бұрын
Given her behaviour, it is more than likely she is on a DoLS rather than a mental health section, meaning she doesn’t understand the repercussions of leaving hospital without treatment. Given that she booked in with possible Co2 poisoning, it is easy to understand the Nurses concerns given that Co2 poisoning causes confusion and abnormal behaviour.
@DustyKid75
Жыл бұрын
Unless she lacks capacity to give (and thus refuse) consent under the Mental Capacity Act 2005. On the facts of this video alone, nothing shows she lacks capacity, but we don't know her antecedents, whether she's under a court order giving medical professionals powers to detain her if they feel it is in her best interest an so on... they have assumed care for her at some point, and are probably legitimately concerned (in legal terms) for her wellbeing. Like Charlie said it is a grey area especially when we viewers don't have all the facts.
@ubiquitousdiabolus
Жыл бұрын
I suspect the head nurse knows the law and is following it. She doesn't stand to benefit from flouting it.
@Josh-wu7kz
Жыл бұрын
Mental Health treatment at an NHS hospital, that’s a good one.
@Simon.0000 Жыл бұрын
Trust a cop 😂😂😂😂😂 David.& Wayne said the same
@Bruce4lmighty Жыл бұрын
How many people died in hospital over the last 3 years ‘who needed to be in hospital’? This is disgusting
@t5jerry Жыл бұрын
Charlie, FFS, please tell me you were JOKING when you said you cleaned your camera lens with a PAPER TOWEL !!!!!! paper towels are made from crushed wood mate, they'll scratch your lens B4 you know it !! Carry a small MICROFIBRE CLOTH 😊😊😊
@dlions9068
Жыл бұрын
I second this. Be kinder to your camera bro.
@jackwatsonepic626
Жыл бұрын
You get a micro cloth free with the camera anyway and if not you can always get one from Specsavers , say 🤔
@edwardsedwards796 Жыл бұрын
The police are self-harming themselves with those masks. And why are they still wearing them?
@jackyhayes8613 Жыл бұрын
Don't trust the copper
@karpkatcher1070 Жыл бұрын
It is disgusting that a member of public seeking medical help for obvious chest issues should be treated like this. And being a registered nurse myself, i would find it hard to give good reason for a bunch of goons to chase my patient away, as an advocate she should be in the patients corner, not the camera mans face. How sick is a society that forces a young woman to trust a total stranger with a camera, rather than a policeman or nurse? The lady displayed not one bit of mental health issues, her argument was entirely logical, so no Psychosis, paranoia or delusions. So, she was singled out because her cultural view of medicine is different from a white nurses view? Which of course makes it racism through the back door. Nurse, shame on you. And the rest of you goons.
@rob1969in Жыл бұрын
That poor woman I hope she's okay ❤
@hayd7371 Жыл бұрын
Until 2020 I fully trusted nurses and the establishment. Now, sadly, they have lost that trust and it will never be regained.
@karlvincent5291
Жыл бұрын
Some nurses & doctors have been hit with Stockholm syndrome
@martinglasgow1219
Жыл бұрын
It was 2006 when I found the whole system to be run by crooks.
@jamiebrooks3864
Жыл бұрын
I completely lost all faith in UK 2005. I was alone for long time. Now seems I'm in majority that's getting angry at last
@LetsAllDrinkToTheDeathOfAClown
Жыл бұрын
In the US the best doctors and nurses were forced to quit because they refused the experimental judeo-jab. The Biden regime used the same tactics to purge the military of senior White officers.
@JamesC1981
Жыл бұрын
whys that is it because you didnt want the covid vaccination
@bikeelectric4821 Жыл бұрын
12:40 she was just assaulted by those security guards = SURROUNDING IS TREATENING, and can be considered "Assault"
@bikeelectric4821
Жыл бұрын
13:43 then they block her ability to move, that's "arrest" and "kidnapping," the officers should arrest those goons right here
@cupidstunts.stcmedia.6618
Жыл бұрын
I know. She wasn't acting violent/angry. Looks to me like she just want to walk away. I would feel pretty intimidated with that lot. Plus do we take their word about a care order. She said she walked out of the hospital because they were asking ridiculous question. Security over reaction 👍
@bikeelectric4821
Жыл бұрын
@@cupidstunts.stcmedia.6618 yup, super obvious that they abused their powers and committed several crimes, the police, the security, AND the nurses
@barryabell5410
Жыл бұрын
They're all parading round in costumes thinking they are above the LAW and that includes the Policy Officers
@slopsallover Жыл бұрын
Love your sentiments towards that lady Charlie....love, kindness and compassion are the greatest medicine for all. Bless you CV. The real thing that needed sorting is the pretend Plods ganging around her . That was just a show of force. The complete opposite of love, kindness and compassion. Yet another example and symptom of the madness that society is becoming consumed by 🙏. Peace and love to lady
@arjunab6167
Жыл бұрын
Noticed her LOVE hair clip?
@hectichazerdus
Жыл бұрын
Charlie the love police guy is okay sometimes but the 'sit in cop car' comment is ill thought out and naive
@Mr.Grimsdale
Жыл бұрын
He jumped into it too quick, then realized it was complicated, then showed some understanding of the situation.
@PrincessD855
Жыл бұрын
The behaviour from the hospital security and police especially that nurse is very suspicious to watch the lady clearly has full capacity of the situation upon her
@williamkeith8740 Жыл бұрын
I doubt the hospital security staff jurisdiction extends out onto the public street.
@Wolfsschanze99
Жыл бұрын
It will go to wherever the patient is
@paulpaul9914
Жыл бұрын
@@Wolfsschanze99 In fact the uniformed security employee & uniformed medical employee jurisdiction has significant limits. I've had the job of extracting victims from hospitals & 'mental health Imprisonment'? facilities on a number of occasions.
@Wolfsschanze99
Жыл бұрын
@@paulpaul9914 Maybe the laws are a bit different down under, I've captured escapee's km's away from hospital & brought them back.
@paulpaul9914
Жыл бұрын
@@Wolfsschanze99 You might have been guilty of various criminal offences which would only come to light if another party or parties had determined that you were acting in opposition to the other parties wishes. In a typical care facility with dementia patients & similar all involved are generally happy for a care subject to remain in care for obvious reasons. If the care subject had left with a relevant helper & both declared that any attempt to return the care subject to the care facility by care facility uniformed employees of various types were unwanted then the situation changes regarding the legality of the care facility uniformed employees of various types attempts to retrieve the absconding care subject.
@Wolfsschanze99
Жыл бұрын
@@paulpaul9914 Nah, all good.
@Paperghost Жыл бұрын
The whole situation is so very sad. If indeed this lady is in need of mental health support, then trying to deliver it like this is awful. I felt that she was scared and her capacity to retain information and weigh information up was greatly diminished by her fear and anger caused by this situation.
@JustAnotherThisDJ Жыл бұрын
this would have been a whole lot different had you not been pointing a camera i suspect.
@JamesC1981
Жыл бұрын
yeah she would have got her much needed treatment quicker
@noelward8047 Жыл бұрын
Well played Mr Veitch. The policeman should have told the hospital goons to go away to enable de-escalation. (I hope the 'Hope' Lady is, or will be well).
@MattJones-np2dd Жыл бұрын
Well done today Charlie....I feel like your were in the right time right place....just your presence of been there changed the hole situation...well documented situation...👍👍
@Iziced Жыл бұрын
Charlie loves the tryanny. Free to leave hospital in Liverpool,Free to enter hospital in Manchester and free to leave. Had enough of NHS dictates in the 3 years.
@caledonianson927
Жыл бұрын
When the state invokes mental health legislation your powerless and at the whim of doctors diagnosis. .just ask Charlie Bronson..
@crlclssic Жыл бұрын
the cop was glad you were there to be honest lol you did his job for him, poor guy looked scared to talk lol
@williamjohnston982 Жыл бұрын
We're only protecting you from yourself, now come with us.
@centuriontaxi Жыл бұрын
The lady got more right than most of the security guys because it seems most security guys are foreign nationals and they seem to make the laws up as they go. Poor lady WTF.
@nigelcarren Жыл бұрын
Charlie, all the police and security attention was bad enough, but the Prime-Minister in a Harry Potter beanie??? Definitely OTT!! Although I do applaud Mr Sunak for being a man of the people here! 😉👍 Joking aside, I hope this lady sorts it out. Clearly somebody in the hospital has her best interests at heart I am sure. Just a shame it escalated to this bless her. 🙏
@asensibleyoungman2978 Жыл бұрын
I believe Veitch should be prosecuted for this. He hindered professionals and delayed that woman's treatment. nurses don't just follow members of the public into the street for fun. the woman looks far from alright to me. The nurse is the only one there who has access to her medical record. Veitch had no business sticking his nose in. Many medical problems cause behaviour like this. I've seen people walk out of resus who would die if they didn't return to continue treatment. Drugs can cause behaviour like this, infections can cause this behaviour, a hypo will cause this sort of behaviour, low oxygen saturation causes confusion and stress. I can't believe an adult would see a nurse and police with an agitated patient and start banging on about her rights being violated. His tone says it all. he thinks it's all a big joke. Well he's toying with people's lives when he starts pulling stunts like this. Grow up Veitch. You're a far bigger menace than to people you target. I'm no fan of the police or the politicians but anyone with a working brain can see this is a woman who needs help.
@TheErsatzMode Жыл бұрын
"Trust the cop... Nothing bad will happen." LOL!
@wealdstoneraider5364 Жыл бұрын
Charlie Veitch, are you: 1) A psychiatrist or mental health nurse who can diagnose this woman & rule out mental health disorders? 2) A toxicologist who can diagnose poisoning or gas imbalances that cause this sort of behaviour? 3) A neurosurgeon who can request an MRI scan to diagnose a bleed on the brain that can cause erratic behaviour in sufferers. 4) A pulmonologist who can diagnose and rule out respiratory diseases or disorders that would cause confusion and agitation in patients. 5) A haematologist who can diagnose and rule out any blood toxicity or imbalance that would cause sudden confusion, anxiety and agitation in a patient. 6) An A&E consultant who has access to this woman's medical records and who carried out an examination and can therefore decide whether a treatment plan and possible hospilisation is requited. If you answered no to any or all of these questions, keep your f*@king nose out in future.
@neilneil7695 Жыл бұрын
Those security guards were itching to go hands-on.
@cringycook9597 Жыл бұрын
So many standing around educated by the book but not much movement for being educated in the heart ❤️
@Lee.Willcox Жыл бұрын
I saw a video Charlie of someone with a camera taking shots of a building. That is all it was. Suddenly people from within came out all aggressive and surrounded the chap, they were very hostile. Apparently, they were looking after vulnerable people yet decided to leave them all alone inside to accost an individual taking photo's of buildings. I imagine the vulnerable people inside may have become alarmed and stressed because of these peoples actions. These people became very angry and I think one of them called the police over a few photos the chap was taking. It really made no sense to me. They should have stayed with their clients, customers, patients, what ever they are and closed blinds perhaps and then sung some happy songs. But instead, they left all the vulnerable people inside to create mayhem and fear. I wonder what transpired when they all went back in only to realise all the vulnerable inside that had not noticed anything were all rattled. How long did it take these fools to calm down their vulnerable clients after creating such a pointless and needless drama. Can't be good for those inside being there for their wellbeing. Such a shame. I can't find the link to the video but a lot of people have seen it 😜
@mickp3605
Жыл бұрын
The way that wana be gangster came up to Charlie he should be nowhere near vulnerable people. Had no control over his temper.
@stuartgmk
Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@meestermeesterhastings.3159
Жыл бұрын
@@mickp3605 The Left will employ anyone today...
@peterchapman3740
Жыл бұрын
Exactly phone the dibble let them deal with it ,dont even leave the building
@chrisnumnuts8671
Жыл бұрын
end of this clip is the video your on about .. kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZpaDqtWCgZXfhrQ.html&ab_channel=CharlesVeitch
@unclejohn11 Жыл бұрын
Hope things work out for you Lady ❤️
@dizzy1369 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely despicable treatment of her for absolutely no reason
@nospoon4799
Жыл бұрын
Britain.
@nospoon4799
Жыл бұрын
@@a-bootiful-mind6648 Awful paedo theme park Britain.
@wealdstoneraider5364
Жыл бұрын
No reason? So you have access to her past medical history, do you? You can confirm there isn't a Dols in place or that she is classed as vulnerable?
@HetVarken
Жыл бұрын
@@wealdstoneraider5364 The situation still wasn't handled well as she was clearly distressed, regardless of whether she's mentally sound or not lol.
@JamesC1981
Жыл бұрын
and if she came to harm because of no medical action taken?
@nigelhughes2947 Жыл бұрын
Nurse in a mask on the street , that will calm the situation ! No need for masks at all .
@WelcometotheNHK. Жыл бұрын
Clowns are still wearing masks ahahaha
@thecentralscrutinizer1758 Жыл бұрын
So Charlie Veitch actually believes nurses go out into the street to abuse people's rights? It never occurred to him that this woman may need medical care. Christ almighty! This guy has the mind of an infant.
@folkme3042 Жыл бұрын
Whether this lady was under a care order or not ,it must of been quite intimidating to be pursued and surrounded by all these uniformed people. All credit to you Charlie for handling the situation with tact and diplomacy.
@StarDustSid Жыл бұрын
How to make a difficult and tense situation, (which you know nothing about), even worse by interfering.
@neil30264 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure you filming the whole episode made the situation better. Sometimes you need to mind your own business.....
@Triggered1964 Жыл бұрын
Charlie so much for helping the public 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
@CharlesVeitch
Жыл бұрын
Do you TRULY believe the nurses and Cops would let her walk away with a Care Order? I stand by my advice to her until the end of time. Thanks for witching
@Triggered1964
Жыл бұрын
@@CharlesVeitch I remember not to long ago your opinions on the Ukraine Russia war, you were so adamant with your uneducated views , then 6 months later you made a grovelling retraction saying you've now educated yourself I love watching you Cv for at least 7 years now!!! but I'm fuming with you today 🤬
@CharlesVeitch
Жыл бұрын
@@Triggered1964 OK
@Triggered1964
Жыл бұрын
@@CharlesVeitch "ok" what a ✊⚓ ers response
@TruthTortoise81
Жыл бұрын
@@CharlesVeitch Do you know what a "Care Order" is? It's an order for keeping children in care. They only one who mentioned it was the cop, in the vaguest possible terms. He said she must be under "some sort of care order" whatever that means? I don't think it's an actual thing that applies to adults and I don't think they had any grounds to hold this woman unless she had been sectioned, which doesn't seem likely. The cop was just following the lead of that nurse and going by what she said.
@sleepswithnopillow8413 Жыл бұрын
love when Charlie backs up people getting harassed
@lacossanostra
Жыл бұрын
no he didnt ! he took side of the police !!
@nospoon4799
Жыл бұрын
@@lacossanostra I saw that too. Completely backed up the authorities.
@shawklan27
Жыл бұрын
Don't know what you're smoking when you typed this
@sleepswithnopillow8413
Жыл бұрын
@@nospoon4799 i guess authorities aren't people. notice how i didn't specify who he was backing up.
@nospoon4799
Жыл бұрын
@@sleepswithnopillow8413 Maybe specify that now then...
@noka1979 Жыл бұрын
That woman seems totally fine
@pigswillbepigs Жыл бұрын
Asking the police to stop lying 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 this lady is a comedian.
@gordoncoles1204 Жыл бұрын
Charlie , this woman you have had on before 😳, she tried to us a child bus pass 🤣
@o0FranklySpeaking0o Жыл бұрын
Very interesting that the NHS security are OFF their premises/ boundary. NOT ALLOWED
@thecentralscrutinizer1758
Жыл бұрын
Yes they are.
@spearhrower Жыл бұрын
I disagree Charlie, hospitals ARE the place to go if you want to end it, attending should be seen as self harm. Just ask Matt Hancock
@paulmartin9194 Жыл бұрын
When was this??? Why are these so called 'professionals' still wearing masks. Even got them doubled up!! The mind boggles
@HulkHulkster
Жыл бұрын
I don't think you've been to a hospital recently but they all are wearing them.
@julianalstin7245 Жыл бұрын
The masks.... THE EFFING MASKS! 😵💫🤯🤡
@ANTHONYBOOTH Жыл бұрын
those questionnaires at that hospital make me laugh... - I was asked all of those questions back when I was supposed to be having open heart surgery there, - on the numerous times that I went through the pre-operative guff...
@samhenwood5746 Жыл бұрын
Security clowns 🤡 & I hope the lady is okay 👌 Thanks Charlie 👍
@NothingButElliot Жыл бұрын
it would make me feel worse if they were trapping me in this way. the job center was gonna call the police on me just becuse i said i would go live in the woods then put up with there madness
@frankiebhoyz2169 Жыл бұрын
It's almost like charlie and smart guy was surprised to learn he didn't know the whole story.
@Bigfoot-og6xm Жыл бұрын
I think Charlie handled the situation well. I would have handled it similarly. It was a hard situation to read. It was nice to see Charlies caring instinct kick in, trying to help her with his knowledge of her lawful rights. An unfamiliar, hard situation for all involved to deal with. She seemed a lovely lady, you could tell by her demeanour. Hopefully she gets the love and care she deserves.
@SensibleCentrist Жыл бұрын
The upload grind is real 💪🏻
@nehpetsniatah Жыл бұрын
Well done Charlie hope theres a follow up video to this As to why was such an amount of jacked up hospital security staff menisinly gloved up prowling around her looking to go hands on heavy While this is going on what security were covering there posts at the hospital
@NothingButElliot Жыл бұрын
they think we're all crazy once they hear our accent in Manchester haha
@bs1consilioetprudentia505 Жыл бұрын
there are not enough masks to cover one's shame.
@HulkHulkster Жыл бұрын
Any one notice the hospital tag on her wrist? I think shes done a runner with her bags and nurse has duty of care called security and followed her because sh wasn't fit to leave.
@philleggitt3005 Жыл бұрын
From personal experience of my late brothers mental health, i can see no signs of immediate danger to herself or others, as such, it is only the harassment that is a major issue for her at present... That said mental health services are in as much crisis as their patients....
@FunKitYourSelf Жыл бұрын
The biggest question is. Why are people wearing mouth mask in Britain?
@bartonseagrave9605 Жыл бұрын
This will happen to all of us who speak out against the Government.
@keithsmith8525 Жыл бұрын
What is concerning is security on the public streets.
@nigelwatson2750
Жыл бұрын
USSR used to pull stunts like this.
@keithsmith8525
Жыл бұрын
@@nigelwatson2750 and seems to have started doing so again!
@penelopeoates511 Жыл бұрын
I worked as a receptionist in an emergency department. I saw many cases like this where people left hospital who needed medical care. In some cases they were suicidal and irrational. Playing games with them like this auditor is doing is grossly unethical. Leave the staff to deal with it. They know what they are doing, you don't. And the way you spoke to that nurse was absolutely disgusting. You ought to be ashamed.
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As a mental health nurse with 20 years clinical experience this whole scene is quite embarrassing. The threshold for sections under the mental health act, which I assume this is, is very high. What's clear with this lady is that whilst she is very well presented, and appears to have capacity, she isn't able to retain what anyone is saying. She doesn't appear able to weigh up information, and make a decision. She likely lacks capacity, as per the Mental Capacity Act. The asbestos comment is a bit odd and alerted the hospital staff to make further investigations. Hospitals are snowed under so generally don't follow people into the street. Therefore, having a dozen people surrounding her trying to reason with her is more likely to traumatize her, rather than lead to a return to hospital. She is unable to reason based on the footage, is scared and likely quite unwell. Whilst sounding archaic a more assertive approach and swift return to hospital whilst not a good thing is likely to lead to a better outcome. This should have taken five minutes rather than been allowed to develop into the circus it did, which is a complete waste of resources and bad for the ladies mental health.
@stuartgmk
Жыл бұрын
👍
@chris78ceecee72
Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@stevesvids
Жыл бұрын
Very complex situation. 😢 poor woman. Hope she is safe, warm and well. I wonder what the real truth was behind this story 🤔 We'll never know.
@wavell14
Жыл бұрын
NHS staff are unable to reason. She seems a lot more capable of weighing up information than your average NHS employee.
@Lee.Willcox
Жыл бұрын
I could not agree more. I worked at Elmleigh in Havant and also Hollybank same town. None of us would ever leave our patients/residents alone to create a farce or drama that would only be detrimental to them or staff. We worked as family and friends. What ever went on outside, stayed outside. We would get Council workers trying to fine some of our residents that were allowed out for dropping cigarette butts just outside our property line in the public domain. The Fag Butt Police spread the word that patients here would drop litter and butts so they hung around in bushes, I kid you not. When the residents came in all wound up, the 3rd Party Council workers thought it was OK for them to come in and find out the details of our patients so they could dish out a fine. WE RAN THEM OFF THE PROPERTY. I then made it my mission to go clean up outside. We made complaints to the council and the Fag Butt Police on commission were told to STAY AWAY. It is a really serious issue, when people being looked after for not being completely well, can not even go out for 5 minutes before someone comes along and destroys months of work.
Fucking masks, 3 years in 😂😂
@reign7770
Жыл бұрын
Because they reduce the risk of catching illnesses? Use your head
@paulpaul9914
Жыл бұрын
There was a recent high quality metastudy showing facerags = useless - the Cochrane editor in chief clown is trying to get the authors to back peddle & declare that despite the facts the forced useage filthy face rag garbage might be a good idea.
@pjoseph5950
Жыл бұрын
Clowns mate
@nigelwatson2750
Жыл бұрын
It's a cult. kzread.info/dash/bejne/qX-m16WseM23dsY.html
@TruthTortoise81
Жыл бұрын
because nurses and doctors never wore masks before the pandemic.
So why has that head nurse got a mask on in the street when nobody else has 🤔
@greg5639
Жыл бұрын
She thinks it will help make the public think that there's some airborne palutent that unalives people by the masses. She loved the sheeple clapping for her and her comrades , making them feel like hero's that she knew they were not ! These nurses knew it was all bull shit from the beginning, empty hospitals where they could spend all the shift doing tic toc and playing with their phones. I will never trust the N H S again.
It'll never get better if you picket! Since when, during the last 3 years, were the NHS worried about people's mental health and wellbeing?
@wavell14
Жыл бұрын
The NHS is primarily a far left political organ. Nothing to do with health.
@stuartgmk
Жыл бұрын
👍👍
@alisonhilll4317
Жыл бұрын
The government haven't cared for years , if they don't pay people properly its there fault .
@nospoon4799
Жыл бұрын
Erm never. This is about using the law to persecute people and discredit their truth.
@amyshoneye5455
Жыл бұрын
❤❤❤🎉
So I can't get a hospital appointment for love nor money but they'll happily spend hours of their time dragging women off the street who DON'T want one?
@thegrinderman1090
Жыл бұрын
If she gets away they might lose their job. Whether you live or die outside their care doesn't affect them. Not saying that as a criticism necessarily, just the way it goes. I spend far more of my time and effort trying to fix the minor problems in my life, than I do donating to malaria charities to literally save lives. We're selfish creatures.
Those ZOMBIES wearing face nappies are embarrassing
@DarrenHoussein
Жыл бұрын
Let us wear face masks if we choose to, you muppet. There's more valid things you could criticise from these weirdos.
12:20 how many times does she have to say "NO" before it's harassment? 72 times, apparently
@johntracey4196
Жыл бұрын
spot on there FORCING her to be a voluntary patient
@unseenrecordings
Жыл бұрын
@@johntracey4196 there must be a part 2 , there have been cases of ppl getting sectioned for mentioning chemtrails to their gp. it's theylive feat. the uk health security agency
Absolutely no need for the security goons to be there.
@stepawa
Жыл бұрын
especially that steroid boy at the end of the video
@keithdrummond5527
Жыл бұрын
@@stepawa yes the steroid idiot flexing,what a twat
@geoffbreen2386
Жыл бұрын
They had nothing else to do. So you must ask why are so many employed? Just like the covid test sites full of security but very few patients/clients/people wanting testing. And that has spread to the "Job Centres". Too many stuff with nothing to do, too many security with nothing to do. They hate people with cameras fearing the public will see what a waste of money they are. This government knows how to waste money and to line their own pockets.
@DJFAmenHeavy
Жыл бұрын
@Hugo I don’t know what a ‘blc’ woman is, but every human has potential for aggression. There was not a hint of aggression from this person, so clearly no need for the security heavies. I’m sure a couple of cops could have restrained her if she turned nasty, she’s only small.
@DJFAmenHeavy
Жыл бұрын
@Hugo *their Dude, your spelling and grammar is atrocious. I have no hope you are a decent human. If you want to spout racist nonsense, at least have the balls to say ‘black’…..
Using mental health as another control weapon ? No theyd never do that 😮
What's this country come to when a person is surrounded and corralled by security because she's made a decision of her own free will. This country is the pits. She's far more "with it" than the hundreds of crack addicts that roam the streets... don't see the police trying to get them help in a hospital. This situation reminds me of the summer of 2020 when people were being accosted by police and medical staff for nothing more than a sniffle.
Lady is fine . Don't go to the hospital. They just want to give you 5 boosters
I can't believe the security guards have any jurisdiction outside of the hospital.
@WeAreThePeople1690
Жыл бұрын
They don't!
@abrut6564
Жыл бұрын
Something eerie about this video my friend, i hope Charlie keeps contact with the lass
@h07swilkinson96
Жыл бұрын
Well that’s where you’re wrong, assuming the lady is on a DoLS, security have every right to assist the Nurse in preventing the patent from absconding.
@charliesteward2528
Жыл бұрын
@@h07swilkinson96 If a person is in hospital they should not be subject to the DoLS if they meet the criteria for detention under the Mental Health Act.
@Authentic_og
Жыл бұрын
@@h07swilkinson96 if she was there would or should be no reason how she got off the hospital grounds... Whilst making a few off the wall comments about asbestos etc. This could be down to the stressful situation she now finds herself in.
Massive overreach from the state. NHS are under enough pressure as it is without trying to force someone to be treated when they don’t want to. Without cameras I’m sure she would have been dragged away and probably sectioned, all because of opinions of a misguided nurse. Dangerous times
@wavell14
Жыл бұрын
NHS under pressure hahaha
@Dehydratedpencil
Жыл бұрын
Fuck the NHS. Defund the entire system
@popart9350
Жыл бұрын
Did you know the Nhs is a blue print of mengeles
@Anubis_-_
Жыл бұрын
@@popart9350 have you any links, brother? Every time I’ve went to research that I can never find anything on it. Plenty about them creating NASA and the good ol CIA though
@popart9350
Жыл бұрын
@@Anubis_-_ it was few years back if im right it will of been History channel mate ww11 related to rise of national SOCIALISM but was definately featured
Those private security vultures should be caged in the scavengers section along with the other animals in the Churchill House Zoo.
@user-cw8pb7do6l
Жыл бұрын
you mean the security staff therre to protect the staff and visitors
Misuse of the Mental Capacity Act will have happened here. Someone I know went through the same thing. Didn’t consent to treatment, got threatened with being sedated, feared for his safety and left. 2 hours later he had police threatening to kick his door in. Said under the Mental Capacity Act he had no choice but to go back. That Act is designed for the dementia patient walking around in their nightwear or the guy so drugged up he’s a danger to himself. Shouldn’t be used in general medicine.
@slees1847
Жыл бұрын
If ever I’ve seen a comment which tells me the author doesn’t know what they’re talking about, this is it
@Fatgucci1017
Жыл бұрын
@@slees1847 Give the correct info then big bo*locks?
@JohnSmith-wq5oi
Жыл бұрын
@@slees1847 Care to elaborate genius?
@lifeguard2564
Жыл бұрын
@@slees1847 Yes, I’m always up for learning new things so educate me. Spotlight is yours.
Bless that lady. No need for all that
@willking1625
Жыл бұрын
Clearly Harassment
@reign7770
Жыл бұрын
@@willking1625 that's what you get from a 5 min clip, clearly there's more going on 🤦
@wildphil64
Жыл бұрын
@@reign7770 it’s horrible seeing people in a highly stressful situation. I can only assume that there is indeed a lot more going on. Love to the poor lady. ❤
@TruthTortoise81
Жыл бұрын
@@reign7770 Like what? The only person in that video making any sense was that woman. Nobody else seemed to know what they were supposed to be doing.
@ricericebaby69
Жыл бұрын
Wasting tax payers money the lot of them
Charlie needs to be careful messing with the staff at these hospitals or during the next interaction, he might suddenly find that he has been placed under a care order.
@andycapp5581
Жыл бұрын
@@FoxtrotYankeeHotel grammar?
@narajuna
Жыл бұрын
Yes some Dr Tar's out there wanting to diagnose.
'Go with the policeman, nothing bad will happen'. Worked a treat for Sarah Everard.
@noelward8047
Жыл бұрын
That was a very different situation.
@mannymac6678
Жыл бұрын
Well said, would love to hear what Charlie's response to that would be.
@vladjones2446
Жыл бұрын
@@noelward8047 Yes Obviously but you’re missing the point: the police are not innately trustworthy because they have a uniform and collar number
@dino575
Жыл бұрын
what a stupid comment! We do not know this womans history so can assess but to have nurses and police around her suggests something more to this. You are an idiot by even trying to compare this to the maniac that butchered Sarah Everard.
@gazmack6196
Жыл бұрын
You clearly need to have a good look at your post, then think again.
Imagine if you wasn't there filming that. The way they were surrounding and following her was very scary and intimidating
She shouldn't go any where near the police FACT .... STAY AWAY FROM HOSPITALS!!!
Why are 5 male security guards stood around her embarrassing her is she really that much of a risk
@Silphwave
Жыл бұрын
Legit. One or two would have sufficed.
You can be put under a care order if you know too much. A frightening state.
@nospoon4799
Жыл бұрын
They can try. They will fail with anyone who knows what they are trying to do. What do you know Daz? Anything juicy?
@spencerhardy8667
Жыл бұрын
You have been Assanged.
She's more likely to be harmed than helped in the "healthcare" system.
@wavell14
Жыл бұрын
Spot on Tony.
@amyshoneye5455
Жыл бұрын
Exactly 💯 Ask a random selection of people about Their experience over the last decade, Never mind 3yrs, and you're sure 2B told a fair few stories That'd make your toes curl my love 😮❤🎉
@richard21995
Жыл бұрын
Afraid So
@wealdstoneraider5364
Жыл бұрын
Who is going to harm her tony?
@tonykennedy1615
Жыл бұрын
@@wealdstoneraider5364 Lol.
TBF they could start by taking the masks off to be more human if they "care"!
Having 5 hospital security is far too heavy handed and scary. Why couldn't they just move off and allow the 1 cop and the 1 nurse to talk to her in comfort?
Chris Veitch - When the lady requested from you that she needed help to attach her bag on her trolley, but you remarked you had to go because you had another appointment to attend. Then you stand there continuing the video 😂😂😂 so much for morals and social media profiteering 😂
Clearly an extremely dangerous shopping lady, a significant threat to herself & most of Manchester. More security, law enforcement & medical authority peeps obviously required. Probably needs the armed forces, coast guard & god knows what else to attend as well to be safe, can they get HMS Safesure (type 42) up the Manchester Ship Canal?
@scottandrewhorne4655
Жыл бұрын
Ha ha BRILLIANT COMMENT God Bless You Amen xxxxxxx And God Bless Your Earthly Life Time And Earthly Family Amen xxxxxxx
@chrisroake1687
Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@jackwatsonepic626
Жыл бұрын
I can see you're taking the piss out of the situation but it's true what you're saying it is an absolute load of BS 😅 good one 👍
I feel so bad for this lady. True or not, she was scared. She didn't trust anyone and she was being surrounded by people in public. She needed someone to trust desperately. I just imagine my mum in this situation and I'd furious with what is happening. This should have been handled much better and more dignified.
@PrincessD855
Жыл бұрын
This is disgusting to watch how the nurses private security and police are behaving towards this lady who is clearly aware of the situation and has full capacity
Charlie, you bottled it.
I don't think surrounding a woman with security guards, especially if she has mental health problems, is a good way to respond.
Why has the nurse got a face nappy on?
@TruthTortoise81
Жыл бұрын
dunno. why has she got a pen in her hair? i think she's acting strange and someone should call the cops on her.
The NHS makes me sick to my stomach.
@nospoon4799
Жыл бұрын
Awful aren't they. Privatisation will make this much worse.
@wavell14
Жыл бұрын
@@nospoon4799 No it won't. Look to Germany for a far superior privatised system.
@nospoon4799
Жыл бұрын
@@wavell14 This is deliberate. They are running the NHS badly to create an argument for privatisation. Then the private investors get to reap the rewards of decades of tax payer investment in our system. Standard Britain. Just look at the railways, same pattern. Look at the energy sector, same pattern. I could go on.
@wavell14
Жыл бұрын
@@paullbennett2923 Do you know anything about how healthcare works in France or Germany? You do realise there is an alternative to socialist incompetence?
@kfckillie1
Жыл бұрын
Don't use it then...🤬
Why are they still wearing the silly muzzles?
you are right Charlie. Those security goons in gloves need to move on. they are intimidating her.
if she hasn't been sectioned then there just bullying her surrounded by brown shirts
@TruthTortoise81
Жыл бұрын
exactly.
Trust the cop ! WTF
Why are people still wearing masks outside now? Can't imagine they all have COVID?
The poor lady's mental anxiety probably wasn't helped by the fact the nurses and hospital security guards had their faces covered whilst they were outside 🤷🏻♂️😷🤤. I hope she got the care she needed 🙏🏻
poor poor show charlie, the content for your video asks for help getting a taxi and you hit her with "oh im busy, i gotta go". Practice what you preach
Private security blocking her way preventing her from leaving = false imprisonment.
@h07swilkinson96
Жыл бұрын
@PINACI Well, it’s not if it’s a lawful detention, it’s quite clear to see that the nurses have take her liberty for whatever reason, most likely on a DoLS. So security have the authority to assist in lawful detention, just like anyone does under common law.
@mannymac6678
Жыл бұрын
@@h07swilkinson96Those who deny freedom to others, deserve it NOT for themselves!
@PINACI
Жыл бұрын
@@h07swilkinson96 Well she said she's not under any care order, and if that's the case then private security or the police don't have any authority to detain her without a crime. Especially private NHS security on the street. Private security are not there to do the bidding of what a nurse wants on a public street. Their job is to protect staff and patients who are on NHS property and nothing more. No free adult is obligated to remain in hospital if they choose to leave. So if there isn't any care order in place then it's false imprisonment.
@h07swilkinson96
Жыл бұрын
@@PINACI Exactly, the patent said that she’s not, however the trained health care professional said that she is. And you’re wrong, Security and Police do have the authority to assist the Nurse in her detention. You do not have to commit a crime for your liberty to be taken away.
@PINACI
Жыл бұрын
@@h07swilkinson96 What I said is correct... ( Well she said she's not under any care order, and if that's the case then...... )
And there is a example,all the private security , a nurse, wandering around Manchester, taxpayers money being wasted
She has every right too refuse treatment and that nurse is acting unethically IF she is coercing a patient, rather than as an advocate.
@keithsmith8525
Жыл бұрын
@skinjim123 clearly not under a section as she would not be in the community. She appears lucid, coherent and in control.
@h07swilkinson96
Жыл бұрын
Given her behaviour, it is more than likely she is on a DoLS rather than a mental health section, meaning she doesn’t understand the repercussions of leaving hospital without treatment. Given that she booked in with possible Co2 poisoning, it is easy to understand the Nurses concerns given that Co2 poisoning causes confusion and abnormal behaviour.
@DustyKid75
Жыл бұрын
Unless she lacks capacity to give (and thus refuse) consent under the Mental Capacity Act 2005. On the facts of this video alone, nothing shows she lacks capacity, but we don't know her antecedents, whether she's under a court order giving medical professionals powers to detain her if they feel it is in her best interest an so on... they have assumed care for her at some point, and are probably legitimately concerned (in legal terms) for her wellbeing. Like Charlie said it is a grey area especially when we viewers don't have all the facts.
@ubiquitousdiabolus
Жыл бұрын
I suspect the head nurse knows the law and is following it. She doesn't stand to benefit from flouting it.
@Josh-wu7kz
Жыл бұрын
Mental Health treatment at an NHS hospital, that’s a good one.
Trust a cop 😂😂😂😂😂 David.& Wayne said the same
How many people died in hospital over the last 3 years ‘who needed to be in hospital’? This is disgusting
Charlie, FFS, please tell me you were JOKING when you said you cleaned your camera lens with a PAPER TOWEL !!!!!! paper towels are made from crushed wood mate, they'll scratch your lens B4 you know it !! Carry a small MICROFIBRE CLOTH 😊😊😊
@dlions9068
Жыл бұрын
I second this. Be kinder to your camera bro.
@jackwatsonepic626
Жыл бұрын
You get a micro cloth free with the camera anyway and if not you can always get one from Specsavers , say 🤔
The police are self-harming themselves with those masks. And why are they still wearing them?
Don't trust the copper
It is disgusting that a member of public seeking medical help for obvious chest issues should be treated like this. And being a registered nurse myself, i would find it hard to give good reason for a bunch of goons to chase my patient away, as an advocate she should be in the patients corner, not the camera mans face. How sick is a society that forces a young woman to trust a total stranger with a camera, rather than a policeman or nurse? The lady displayed not one bit of mental health issues, her argument was entirely logical, so no Psychosis, paranoia or delusions. So, she was singled out because her cultural view of medicine is different from a white nurses view? Which of course makes it racism through the back door. Nurse, shame on you. And the rest of you goons.
That poor woman I hope she's okay ❤
Until 2020 I fully trusted nurses and the establishment. Now, sadly, they have lost that trust and it will never be regained.
@karlvincent5291
Жыл бұрын
Some nurses & doctors have been hit with Stockholm syndrome
@martinglasgow1219
Жыл бұрын
It was 2006 when I found the whole system to be run by crooks.
@jamiebrooks3864
Жыл бұрын
I completely lost all faith in UK 2005. I was alone for long time. Now seems I'm in majority that's getting angry at last
@LetsAllDrinkToTheDeathOfAClown
Жыл бұрын
In the US the best doctors and nurses were forced to quit because they refused the experimental judeo-jab. The Biden regime used the same tactics to purge the military of senior White officers.
@JamesC1981
Жыл бұрын
whys that is it because you didnt want the covid vaccination
12:40 she was just assaulted by those security guards = SURROUNDING IS TREATENING, and can be considered "Assault"
@bikeelectric4821
Жыл бұрын
13:43 then they block her ability to move, that's "arrest" and "kidnapping," the officers should arrest those goons right here
@cupidstunts.stcmedia.6618
Жыл бұрын
I know. She wasn't acting violent/angry. Looks to me like she just want to walk away. I would feel pretty intimidated with that lot. Plus do we take their word about a care order. She said she walked out of the hospital because they were asking ridiculous question. Security over reaction 👍
@bikeelectric4821
Жыл бұрын
@@cupidstunts.stcmedia.6618 yup, super obvious that they abused their powers and committed several crimes, the police, the security, AND the nurses
@barryabell5410
Жыл бұрын
They're all parading round in costumes thinking they are above the LAW and that includes the Policy Officers
Love your sentiments towards that lady Charlie....love, kindness and compassion are the greatest medicine for all. Bless you CV. The real thing that needed sorting is the pretend Plods ganging around her . That was just a show of force. The complete opposite of love, kindness and compassion. Yet another example and symptom of the madness that society is becoming consumed by 🙏. Peace and love to lady
@arjunab6167
Жыл бұрын
Noticed her LOVE hair clip?
@hectichazerdus
Жыл бұрын
Charlie the love police guy is okay sometimes but the 'sit in cop car' comment is ill thought out and naive
@Mr.Grimsdale
Жыл бұрын
He jumped into it too quick, then realized it was complicated, then showed some understanding of the situation.
@PrincessD855
Жыл бұрын
The behaviour from the hospital security and police especially that nurse is very suspicious to watch the lady clearly has full capacity of the situation upon her
I doubt the hospital security staff jurisdiction extends out onto the public street.
@Wolfsschanze99
Жыл бұрын
It will go to wherever the patient is
@paulpaul9914
Жыл бұрын
@@Wolfsschanze99 In fact the uniformed security employee & uniformed medical employee jurisdiction has significant limits. I've had the job of extracting victims from hospitals & 'mental health Imprisonment'? facilities on a number of occasions.
@Wolfsschanze99
Жыл бұрын
@@paulpaul9914 Maybe the laws are a bit different down under, I've captured escapee's km's away from hospital & brought them back.
@paulpaul9914
Жыл бұрын
@@Wolfsschanze99 You might have been guilty of various criminal offences which would only come to light if another party or parties had determined that you were acting in opposition to the other parties wishes. In a typical care facility with dementia patients & similar all involved are generally happy for a care subject to remain in care for obvious reasons. If the care subject had left with a relevant helper & both declared that any attempt to return the care subject to the care facility by care facility uniformed employees of various types were unwanted then the situation changes regarding the legality of the care facility uniformed employees of various types attempts to retrieve the absconding care subject.
@Wolfsschanze99
Жыл бұрын
@@paulpaul9914 Nah, all good.
The whole situation is so very sad. If indeed this lady is in need of mental health support, then trying to deliver it like this is awful. I felt that she was scared and her capacity to retain information and weigh information up was greatly diminished by her fear and anger caused by this situation.
this would have been a whole lot different had you not been pointing a camera i suspect.
@JamesC1981
Жыл бұрын
yeah she would have got her much needed treatment quicker
Well played Mr Veitch. The policeman should have told the hospital goons to go away to enable de-escalation. (I hope the 'Hope' Lady is, or will be well).
Well done today Charlie....I feel like your were in the right time right place....just your presence of been there changed the hole situation...well documented situation...👍👍
Charlie loves the tryanny. Free to leave hospital in Liverpool,Free to enter hospital in Manchester and free to leave. Had enough of NHS dictates in the 3 years.
@caledonianson927
Жыл бұрын
When the state invokes mental health legislation your powerless and at the whim of doctors diagnosis. .just ask Charlie Bronson..
the cop was glad you were there to be honest lol you did his job for him, poor guy looked scared to talk lol
We're only protecting you from yourself, now come with us.
The lady got more right than most of the security guys because it seems most security guys are foreign nationals and they seem to make the laws up as they go. Poor lady WTF.
Charlie, all the police and security attention was bad enough, but the Prime-Minister in a Harry Potter beanie??? Definitely OTT!! Although I do applaud Mr Sunak for being a man of the people here! 😉👍 Joking aside, I hope this lady sorts it out. Clearly somebody in the hospital has her best interests at heart I am sure. Just a shame it escalated to this bless her. 🙏
I believe Veitch should be prosecuted for this. He hindered professionals and delayed that woman's treatment. nurses don't just follow members of the public into the street for fun. the woman looks far from alright to me. The nurse is the only one there who has access to her medical record. Veitch had no business sticking his nose in. Many medical problems cause behaviour like this. I've seen people walk out of resus who would die if they didn't return to continue treatment. Drugs can cause behaviour like this, infections can cause this behaviour, a hypo will cause this sort of behaviour, low oxygen saturation causes confusion and stress. I can't believe an adult would see a nurse and police with an agitated patient and start banging on about her rights being violated. His tone says it all. he thinks it's all a big joke. Well he's toying with people's lives when he starts pulling stunts like this. Grow up Veitch. You're a far bigger menace than to people you target. I'm no fan of the police or the politicians but anyone with a working brain can see this is a woman who needs help.
"Trust the cop... Nothing bad will happen." LOL!
Charlie Veitch, are you: 1) A psychiatrist or mental health nurse who can diagnose this woman & rule out mental health disorders? 2) A toxicologist who can diagnose poisoning or gas imbalances that cause this sort of behaviour? 3) A neurosurgeon who can request an MRI scan to diagnose a bleed on the brain that can cause erratic behaviour in sufferers. 4) A pulmonologist who can diagnose and rule out respiratory diseases or disorders that would cause confusion and agitation in patients. 5) A haematologist who can diagnose and rule out any blood toxicity or imbalance that would cause sudden confusion, anxiety and agitation in a patient. 6) An A&E consultant who has access to this woman's medical records and who carried out an examination and can therefore decide whether a treatment plan and possible hospilisation is requited. If you answered no to any or all of these questions, keep your f*@king nose out in future.
Those security guards were itching to go hands-on.
So many standing around educated by the book but not much movement for being educated in the heart ❤️
I saw a video Charlie of someone with a camera taking shots of a building. That is all it was. Suddenly people from within came out all aggressive and surrounded the chap, they were very hostile. Apparently, they were looking after vulnerable people yet decided to leave them all alone inside to accost an individual taking photo's of buildings. I imagine the vulnerable people inside may have become alarmed and stressed because of these peoples actions. These people became very angry and I think one of them called the police over a few photos the chap was taking. It really made no sense to me. They should have stayed with their clients, customers, patients, what ever they are and closed blinds perhaps and then sung some happy songs. But instead, they left all the vulnerable people inside to create mayhem and fear. I wonder what transpired when they all went back in only to realise all the vulnerable inside that had not noticed anything were all rattled. How long did it take these fools to calm down their vulnerable clients after creating such a pointless and needless drama. Can't be good for those inside being there for their wellbeing. Such a shame. I can't find the link to the video but a lot of people have seen it 😜
@mickp3605
Жыл бұрын
The way that wana be gangster came up to Charlie he should be nowhere near vulnerable people. Had no control over his temper.
@stuartgmk
Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@meestermeesterhastings.3159
Жыл бұрын
@@mickp3605 The Left will employ anyone today...
@peterchapman3740
Жыл бұрын
Exactly phone the dibble let them deal with it ,dont even leave the building
@chrisnumnuts8671
Жыл бұрын
end of this clip is the video your on about .. kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZpaDqtWCgZXfhrQ.html&ab_channel=CharlesVeitch
Hope things work out for you Lady ❤️
Absolutely despicable treatment of her for absolutely no reason
@nospoon4799
Жыл бұрын
Britain.
@nospoon4799
Жыл бұрын
@@a-bootiful-mind6648 Awful paedo theme park Britain.
@wealdstoneraider5364
Жыл бұрын
No reason? So you have access to her past medical history, do you? You can confirm there isn't a Dols in place or that she is classed as vulnerable?
@HetVarken
Жыл бұрын
@@wealdstoneraider5364 The situation still wasn't handled well as she was clearly distressed, regardless of whether she's mentally sound or not lol.
@JamesC1981
Жыл бұрын
and if she came to harm because of no medical action taken?
Nurse in a mask on the street , that will calm the situation ! No need for masks at all .
Clowns are still wearing masks ahahaha
So Charlie Veitch actually believes nurses go out into the street to abuse people's rights? It never occurred to him that this woman may need medical care. Christ almighty! This guy has the mind of an infant.
Whether this lady was under a care order or not ,it must of been quite intimidating to be pursued and surrounded by all these uniformed people. All credit to you Charlie for handling the situation with tact and diplomacy.
How to make a difficult and tense situation, (which you know nothing about), even worse by interfering.
I'm sure you filming the whole episode made the situation better. Sometimes you need to mind your own business.....
Charlie so much for helping the public 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
@CharlesVeitch
Жыл бұрын
Do you TRULY believe the nurses and Cops would let her walk away with a Care Order? I stand by my advice to her until the end of time. Thanks for witching
@Triggered1964
Жыл бұрын
@@CharlesVeitch I remember not to long ago your opinions on the Ukraine Russia war, you were so adamant with your uneducated views , then 6 months later you made a grovelling retraction saying you've now educated yourself I love watching you Cv for at least 7 years now!!! but I'm fuming with you today 🤬
@CharlesVeitch
Жыл бұрын
@@Triggered1964 OK
@Triggered1964
Жыл бұрын
@@CharlesVeitch "ok" what a ✊⚓ ers response
@TruthTortoise81
Жыл бұрын
@@CharlesVeitch Do you know what a "Care Order" is? It's an order for keeping children in care. They only one who mentioned it was the cop, in the vaguest possible terms. He said she must be under "some sort of care order" whatever that means? I don't think it's an actual thing that applies to adults and I don't think they had any grounds to hold this woman unless she had been sectioned, which doesn't seem likely. The cop was just following the lead of that nurse and going by what she said.
love when Charlie backs up people getting harassed
@lacossanostra
Жыл бұрын
no he didnt ! he took side of the police !!
@nospoon4799
Жыл бұрын
@@lacossanostra I saw that too. Completely backed up the authorities.
@shawklan27
Жыл бұрын
Don't know what you're smoking when you typed this
@sleepswithnopillow8413
Жыл бұрын
@@nospoon4799 i guess authorities aren't people. notice how i didn't specify who he was backing up.
@nospoon4799
Жыл бұрын
@@sleepswithnopillow8413 Maybe specify that now then...
That woman seems totally fine
Asking the police to stop lying 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 this lady is a comedian.
Charlie , this woman you have had on before 😳, she tried to us a child bus pass 🤣
Very interesting that the NHS security are OFF their premises/ boundary. NOT ALLOWED
@thecentralscrutinizer1758
Жыл бұрын
Yes they are.
I disagree Charlie, hospitals ARE the place to go if you want to end it, attending should be seen as self harm. Just ask Matt Hancock
When was this??? Why are these so called 'professionals' still wearing masks. Even got them doubled up!! The mind boggles
@HulkHulkster
Жыл бұрын
I don't think you've been to a hospital recently but they all are wearing them.
The masks.... THE EFFING MASKS! 😵💫🤯🤡
those questionnaires at that hospital make me laugh... - I was asked all of those questions back when I was supposed to be having open heart surgery there, - on the numerous times that I went through the pre-operative guff...
Security clowns 🤡 & I hope the lady is okay 👌 Thanks Charlie 👍
it would make me feel worse if they were trapping me in this way. the job center was gonna call the police on me just becuse i said i would go live in the woods then put up with there madness
It's almost like charlie and smart guy was surprised to learn he didn't know the whole story.
I think Charlie handled the situation well. I would have handled it similarly. It was a hard situation to read. It was nice to see Charlies caring instinct kick in, trying to help her with his knowledge of her lawful rights. An unfamiliar, hard situation for all involved to deal with. She seemed a lovely lady, you could tell by her demeanour. Hopefully she gets the love and care she deserves.
The upload grind is real 💪🏻
Well done Charlie hope theres a follow up video to this As to why was such an amount of jacked up hospital security staff menisinly gloved up prowling around her looking to go hands on heavy While this is going on what security were covering there posts at the hospital
they think we're all crazy once they hear our accent in Manchester haha
there are not enough masks to cover one's shame.
Any one notice the hospital tag on her wrist? I think shes done a runner with her bags and nurse has duty of care called security and followed her because sh wasn't fit to leave.
From personal experience of my late brothers mental health, i can see no signs of immediate danger to herself or others, as such, it is only the harassment that is a major issue for her at present... That said mental health services are in as much crisis as their patients....
The biggest question is. Why are people wearing mouth mask in Britain?
This will happen to all of us who speak out against the Government.
What is concerning is security on the public streets.
@nigelwatson2750
Жыл бұрын
USSR used to pull stunts like this.
@keithsmith8525
Жыл бұрын
@@nigelwatson2750 and seems to have started doing so again!
I worked as a receptionist in an emergency department. I saw many cases like this where people left hospital who needed medical care. In some cases they were suicidal and irrational. Playing games with them like this auditor is doing is grossly unethical. Leave the staff to deal with it. They know what they are doing, you don't. And the way you spoke to that nurse was absolutely disgusting. You ought to be ashamed.