Wow guys, Little Bythan is really progressing and looking fantastic, a real credit to Tony’s attention to detail. Hope you will post some more of Mr Wright’s layout in the near future. Regarding the APT what an absolute stunner, after so many examples Hornby complete the cycle finally, congratulations. It looks like great care is required in the coupling process, as some of the carriage to carriage alignments are less than perfect, possibly a bit more running time would resolve the issue. Thanks again guys, what a wonderful world you live in, but watch where you insert rolled up scrolls 😂

I'm impressed (and quite envious). Beautiful set-up you've got. Greetings from Sweden 🇸🇪.

My favourite trains of all time, but only ridden on it a couple of times, when they allowed Staff to try it out. Hellish experience 😁 Will never ever have a chance to own a wonderful train like the one in your video because, like many others, we have an original Hornby set, with all it's issues, a spare unit (the 4 coaches) with a spare 'unpowered' power car and a load of parts, Lots of them, which I should have put on ebay, years ago. Always hoped that Hornby would simply provide the other cars, to the same standard and although that never transpired, it's brilliant to see the updated version. Many, many thanks 😁

It was, and still is a stunningly beautiful train, shame the British government forced BR to abandon the project just before they had ironed out all the bugs.

@keithdoherty8809

Жыл бұрын

Department for Transport forced BR to start timetables services before the prototype sets were even run in and mid winter at that: suffered massive media derision and summarily parked up At the time central government really couldn’t care less about rail At the same time BA introduced turn up and go high frequency shuttle services between Scotland and London further diminishing the potential upfront revenue. Technically brilliant through failed from the very beginning with the Gass turbine test unit which cost a fortune and went nowhere when the funds could have wired Pancras - Derby !

@Degsie1975

10 ай бұрын

It wasn't totally abandoned. Some of the technology went into the Intercity 225 sets. The bugs had been sorted. The main reason for abandonment was cost. They weren't prepared to invest in signalling so it could only have travelled at 125 mph, way below the designed 155mph. They came to the conclusion that 125 was not much faster than 110mph the class 87s were doing. Typical of this countries backward thinking.

@keithdoherty8809

10 ай бұрын

@@Degsie1975 This is correct and thirty years on in cab signalling to allow 140+ exists only on HS1 within the UK. The problems are compounded by having 80mph local , 110/125 mph express and intermodal and bulk freight trains operating along the same corridors at the same time . This was and is the fundamental principle in FAVOUR of HS2 along the most intensely industrialised and populated corridor on this island .

@GDGRailway47712

9 ай бұрын

@@keithdoherty8809 The CAPT system was developed for the APT as a form of in-cab signalling but was probably one of the features that wouldn't have made it from the prototype APT-P to the squadron service APT-S. I think the likely configuration of the APT-S would have been more like the Pendolinos but with a power car at one end.

Very impressive, wonder if Pete Waterman is watching, lol 🤣👍👍👍👍👍

I love APT train it looked fantastic running around the layout,

That is a very nice layout.

very nice layout as well

Loved it. I would have loved some more cornering shots or even going through some curved pointwork.

@world-of-railways

11 ай бұрын

Next time!

This is the age of the train

cool vid nice set thanks lee

Watching this, it occurs to me that BR inadvertently built a train that would've met Channel Tunnel safety regs in the sense that it could split in the middle, like a class 373 Eurostar. Wonder how complex fitting TVM430 in-cab signalling would've proven. Ah, what might have been...

@tomdarling-fernley3178

Жыл бұрын

Oh really nice layout, by the way!

Nice long straights to show off what it looks like when money is no object, lucky such person. Thanks for that. Did I blink (for fourteen cars-worth) and miss any more than the peremptory rushed-seeming whoops no tilting shots yet!?

However, did you test it on an incline, as some reviews state they have an issue on inclines?

Why are some of the interior illumination a nice orange and others a white LED ?

@world-of-railways

11 ай бұрын

The lighting temperature is the same, the interior plastic seating is a different colour to reflect the seating class.

…….where the sun doesn’t shine 😂. Who cares if it’s not “prototypical”. As long as it looks good, that’s what most people care about. Any ideas why the coaches have different coloured LED lighting?

@ChimpManZ1264

Жыл бұрын

If you mean the interior I would guess the orangish light was to reflect the upholstery of the coach.

@GDGRailway47712

9 ай бұрын

Orangish light was indeed the standard class whilst the grey light was from the first class interior. It is probably a bit exaggerated on the model. The reality was that the cars and sets got mixed up in service so it doesn't matter where they go really. Also, the number of times a full 14-car double set actually ran is in doubt. Most videos of them show the north-end set being a full 6+power car and the south-end set being 2+power car or 3+power car, so 10 or 11 cars in total.

Did you run two powered NDM's? I got the latest 7 car set (2023) and it cannot handle even the 7 cars on its own. Infact it does not even start moving until I put 65% power on. At full power, it is slower than my Bachmann Blue Pullman.

@world-of-railways

11 ай бұрын

Just the one. This is from the latest batch which have heavier die-cast chassis.

The signal posts seem out of scale?

Why did the video jump?

@aberfordwest4003

12 күн бұрын

To cut out the part where he says where to put the email printout

Gorgeous train for a diesel or electric train!!

@ChimpManZ1264

Жыл бұрын

The APT E (Experimental) was Gas Turbine while the Prototype which this model represents was Diesel and Electric as the WCML was not yet fully electrified.

Why oh why..........

That is one looooooong train 😅

Epic! The prototype was sabotaged, just like Concorde, TSR2 and Avro Arrow. Our govts haven't protected and served for at least 70 years. At least we can enjoy this wonderful model✌️💜👍😊

As nice as the train looks, if that’s turned up to 11, it’s underpowered. The whole point of the APT was speed, and that doesn’t come across in the video.

@world-of-railways

11 ай бұрын

It can run a lot faster, trust us!

@tomlee9534

11 ай бұрын

@@world-of-railways jolly good. It would be a shame if that were its top speed!

@Degsie1975

10 ай бұрын

I have 14 car set with just the one powered car in the middle and worked out it's average speed on my layout around 150mph. Slightly below the designed 155mph, but still fast enough. Only thing with the one powered car, the other is a dummy, is that it can lose traction on slight inclines. If you had a perfectly level layout it would go faster.

By the looks of it, it’s the diesel version. Not a great train for an Asthmatic like me!!

@hakonsandersen7598

Жыл бұрын

It's electric. There are two cars with pantographs in the middle of the rake.

@ChimpManZ1264

Жыл бұрын

​@@hakonsandersen7598 It's both. It uses electric on the electrified section of the WCML and switched to Diesel on the non electrified segments. The full electrification was achieved before the Pendolinos entered service.

@johnhalley974

Жыл бұрын

How much???…. Do I need a loan from the bank?

@tomlee9534

11 ай бұрын

@@ChimpManZ1264this train is just electric. No Diesel engines on board. The first bi-mode express passenger units are the Hitachi IETs.