Horde chess with commentary #2 (Pieces)
I'm playing a fun chess variant called Horde chess on lichess.org. More specifically, I'm playing with the standard chess pieces (black), whereas my opponent is playing with 36 pawns (white). The time control is set at 5|2. The objective for white is to checkmate black, and the objective for black is to capture all of white's pawns. A similar chess variant to Horde chess is Dunsany's chess or Dunsany's game. Would you rather play as the pawns or the standard chess pieces?
Horde chess rules: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunsany%...
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“I’m gonna put pressure on this f5 pawn” *8 pawns behind the f5 pawn*
How calm you are despite the time pressure you got into was amazing.
@tomc627
7 жыл бұрын
Joshua Fetter that part annoyed me the most lol, I get a little more urgent when under 30 seconds than he did
@MrSupernova111
6 жыл бұрын
seriously!
@ParlanceOpus
6 жыл бұрын
2 secs at 11:33 I was sweating.
@mr.cook5
6 жыл бұрын
honestly seems like a deliberate tactic. in the previous vid black threw away any chance of competing by playing bad moves, only trying to put Jerry into further time pressure, but it's simply never an issue for him with an increment.
@erikmarkus7467
6 жыл бұрын
as a bullet player myself, i find it more practical to not allow time trouble to throw you off focus (i mean when you are down to 4-5 seconds with no increment, yeah, it gets edgy...), i have learned that its still better to try to make the best move rather than start trying to move anything anywhere quickly. and with increment like in this game, even more so!
Omg haha the whole time I was thinking like TIME TIME THE TIME STOP WASTING TIME
@GavenJr
6 жыл бұрын
U must think ur moves
@zeekielgaming5278
5 жыл бұрын
n 0 He’s so calm.
@renx81
5 жыл бұрын
Happens so often with Jerry, yet he almost never flags. I've gotten so used to it by now that almost never get nervous about that anymore.
@user-os1kr4nq6i
5 жыл бұрын
Пожалуйста поставьте лайк, чтоб иностранцы подумали что что-то годное написал)
@your_fathers
4 жыл бұрын
Im so irritated by him doing that everytime
At 8:45, you could have played Qe3 and you could have entered the back rank without sacrificing the rook.
@kckcmctcrc
7 жыл бұрын
nice catch....I didn't see that either.
@AbhiRaj-yo9ds
7 жыл бұрын
Exactly. His opponent realised it after he moved, that's why he didn't take the rook but pushed the pawn first.
@orca427gd9
6 жыл бұрын
PRISMAPHOTONIC I
@gbravy
6 жыл бұрын
Excellent reply. He had already decided upon his move and didn't see it.
@majermike
5 жыл бұрын
good catch Prism man
11:06. That pac man cameo destroyed me. :)
@daglishhhhh
9 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@BloomsProductions
6 жыл бұрын
same lmfao
The greatest question is... Did you join the game that your opponent offered you after this video.
@wenxiaying7197
4 жыл бұрын
probaly
Basically Soviet chess
@your_fathers
4 жыл бұрын
accurate
@looinrims
4 жыл бұрын
Soviet vs Germany in a nutshell, quantity over quality (minus the whole half the army is on the other side of the world part)
@xamnition
4 жыл бұрын
@@dhruvmohta2705 no
@And-lj5gb
4 жыл бұрын
@@looinrims - it's actually a stereotype that doesn't reflect reality anywhere near as much as many people think. Germans had the numerical superiority on the Eastern Front in the first year of the Operation Barbarossa. The USSR didn't really have much more manpower to throw at the war than the Axis, in 1942 the Axis population outnumbered the Soviet population in the Soviet-held territories (don't forget countries like Romania comitted a lot of troops to the Eastern Front too) and only 1.3 Soviet soldiers died per 1 Axis soldier during the war on the Eastern Front. The initial success of the Germans was much down to catching the Soviets off guard and their demise due to logistical problems, lack of resources like oil and the Soviets learning their lessons. Wehrmacht was the first army in the world to figure out the correct application of tanks in the warfare but as the WWII progressed, their enemies caught up in this regard and they no longer had tactical advantage. TheCold War followed shortly after WWII which shaped the perception of WWII in the Western World as the Soviet generals couldn't share their views on the topic the way many of the Germans generals did. Also the Nazi propaganda of superiority of the German nation still lived on in some people.
@looinrims
4 жыл бұрын
And see this entire sentiment seems true until you realize that the soviets kicked the shit out of the Japanese in Mongolia with combined arms tactics, Nazi forces had the qualitative advantage in terms of training and armament, period, their logistics however were Garbage
That pacman was so sublte
@ChessNetwork
9 жыл бұрын
Good eye nighthunter. I like throwing in those little edits from time to time. :)
@siggiarabi
7 жыл бұрын
not really. pretty obvious. maybe youre just oblivious
@redbird1500
7 жыл бұрын
By "subtle" he meant he threw it in without it making to much "noise" or to much of an "entrance"... i.e. it was very "subtly" thrown in, not it was thrown in so where it was hard to find. That's not what subtle means... you're just trying to find a reason to be a dickhead.
@gutoguto0873
5 жыл бұрын
@@redbird1500 Fucking owned.
i was watching music covers how the hell did i get over here
@ChessNetwork
9 жыл бұрын
Chess pieces make music sometimes, especially when in harmony?! Actually idk. :)
@rotcod2886
9 жыл бұрын
Hoodies With Black Strings c: Horde is the name of a music festival they had in the early 90's. I saw a few of those with Blues Traveler, Bela Fleck and the Flecktones and Dave Matthews to name a few.
@DylansLappalterCopium
4 жыл бұрын
I was watching memes
This mode is awesome
@andressstyle6390
6 жыл бұрын
ye
"I'm still learning the ropes of this..." ...goes on and beats a >2000 player.
This variant looks like a lot of fun. I really enjoy watching these videos. Thanks Jerry.
It seems the time spent in the opening is worth it.
Jerry's favorite: *Pac-man Mode*
i didnt knew i liked to watch chess games..... UNTIL NOW! nice one bro
Love these Horde chess videos, keep it up!
Good game! Please play more of these. Excellent to watch ;)
#Horde #chess with commentary #2 (Pieces) Pawns or Pieces?
@redshieldart1767
9 жыл бұрын
Pawns!
@YaderBertrand
9 жыл бұрын
I must assume I was more worried about your time than you were.
@yssparta
9 жыл бұрын
ChessNetwork Pieces, b/c you can win by zugzwang against the pieces.
@joshrodrigues6166
9 жыл бұрын
ChessNetwork Pieces. Black can easily play the waiting game. White is forced to push pawns and hope he doesn't stretch out too thinly.
@matthewbolan8154
8 жыл бұрын
is g4 drawing at the end of this game?
I would prefer the standard chess pieces because it seems this side has more strategic potential than the pawns. It's fun to figure out ways to smash through the horde :)
@donaldleone
9 жыл бұрын
Yeah but either side looks pretty tricky
Love this stuff! As you've proven, Jerry, you can play both sides in interesting ways... I especially like the fact that there's no 'book', this resembles Fischer Random in that way.
@andressstyle6390
6 жыл бұрын
ye
8:55 the e3 pawn was free and u couldve entered with queen without sacking rook
is it weird i was thinking of a mode like this in my head?
Oh wow. Really enjoyed this. Never seen this game played. Really neat. Thanks for showing me. I would like to see you do some other chess variants like tamerlane chess. I've been wanting to see that played.
This was fun to watch! Hope you do more in the future, and also different variations of chess. Seirawan chess maybe?
I thumbed up for he pacman
@andressstyle6390
6 жыл бұрын
ye
@medexamtoolsdotcom
5 жыл бұрын
He pacman? Is that the child of he-man and pacman?
Without extensive calculation by computer the general strategy I read about and tried is that by moving some of your pawns move 2-3 adjacent pawns ahead so that you can create free "window" a column where the major pieces could go there and hide from advancing pawns like o outpost.
I don't see why anyone would dislike this video ? It was clearly a clever win . Nice one Jerry
Another upload so soon? Keep it up :D! Great video as always, of course.
@andressstyle6390
6 жыл бұрын
ye
More horde chess! Very entertaining.
Horde Chess? Chess variants? YES. I am now subscribed. More variants please! (says me who is working on a series of chess variant videos.)
i want to see more of these. try some with full chess games. literally no one has uploaded commentary on the normal game as they play and i like to hear your thoughts as you play
This is very interesting; thanks for posting!
@ChessNetwork
9 жыл бұрын
Welcome elbay. :)
Omg legend has he’s still thinking
Interesting variant :) Keep the videos coming hehe
never seen this chess before. great vid!
More of this please :)
@andressstyle6390
6 жыл бұрын
ye
my first time experiencing horde chess. very interesting. definitely engaging.
Love this variant
Everybody gangsta till the queen got in the back
the queen turns into PacMan... It's Magic!
yet another great video, Jerry
Greatest pawn sacrifice
are there rules against just running left the whole back rank, then 2nd, 3rd etc?
Miss these videos
I assume that the en passant is still a valid play in Horde?
@Owen_loves_Butters
3 жыл бұрын
Hmm let me test that out
@Owen_loves_Butters
3 жыл бұрын
Yep
I wonder what the computer evaluation would be given a horde chess starting position. I don't think this game is as balanced as chess. The computer might pretty much all the time favor one of the two sides as completely winning if it is made to play that side from the start.
@blackoutgenez
6 жыл бұрын
black has slight advantage at start, pretty balanced compared to other variants such as atomic
I know it's YEARS old the video, but at 8:45 the queen could've moved to E3 taking a pawn and have completely free access to the back row at C1 with no way to prevent it on white's side with no way to cut it off. Only way would've been moving F1 into F2, but that wouldn't stop the queen from being able to enter C1 unless you used the following turn elsewhere.
I want to see more of horde, saying it 4 years after releasingXD
At about 8:45 couldn't you take with the queen onto the pawn that was left hanging by the move that pushed up one pawn on the kings rook side? the one next to the d file? Sorry, can't remember if it was c or e
in this variant it seems knights are pretty useless until the end game, because of how much are the pawns advanced by default and the knights' incapability to threaten close by pawns, bishops are sub-par (at least early on) as well because the pawns are very good at protecting one another.
8:47 you didn’t need to sack the rook you could of just played QxE3
Move 12 bishop x on A3? If recaptures then queen d6 and black is braking through on A3
Try the 4 player chess.. i think you would be awesome..
@patstaysuckafreeboss8006
5 жыл бұрын
What about 4 player Crazy House chess
@bonchidude
5 жыл бұрын
@@patstaysuckafreeboss8006 too much at once! Four player chess is chaos.
@bachlamtung5131
4 жыл бұрын
Gamebred lmao thats chaos
8:47 black queen to e3 would have been much better and would not have required a sacrifice to get to the back line
more Space Invaders!
Ok you definitely get a thumbs and a subway for the Pacman reference. Thanks for the cheap laugh great vid. too btw.
on move 20 you could have played: Qxd3 instead of Rxa3 which also goes behind all of the pawns and saves a rook
I am not seeing how moving the H pawn so that rook later goes 4 squares ahead. It won't be able to help in any way.
Where did game will available. Can you send link it
Why doesnt the computer en passant i would attack a string while covering with a night then attack edge wit nights and pawns
Hey Jerry , I have a BIG question for you , will you play a blitz game Vs Sensei Suren ?
Probably by the time you read this you might have already mastered horde but a tip would be to play the pawns in front of the bishops to stop whites' attacks from the center
@echalici
8 жыл бұрын
and unlike many people i like to use the knights, they just create chaos jumping around destroying pawns
I looked away at 11:06 and when I looked back I was "what?"
The rook sac wasn’t necessary, on move 20 you could’ve taken with the queen on e3 and entered the position quicker and without losing material. I’m not sure if ive missed a serious blunder with that move or if Jerry just missed it. Either way feel free to correct me but it’s just a thought
Can you put the opponent in zugzwang to force him to capture the rook pawn? Although it seems Black's position becomes more and more dangerous as white advances the pawns....
I think the horde pawn should have a special promotion called horde leader that acts like a queen but what ever direction the queen moves a pawn of your choice moves the same direction once.
Is there a lichess app? Because I have been interested in chess for a while and this game mode in particular looks very fun to play to pass time
what am l missing? you can't wipe out their pawns with your queen starting from their back rank?
What does he mean when a piece becomes out of play?
The wasn't a draw at the end because if c7 Rc2 and c8 is met by Rxc8 followed by g4 Qxg6 g5 Qxg5 If g4 first Qxg6 and white is lost.
Omg how do you even approach this
Are you familiar with the grandmaster chess game , it has two extra pieces, I remember one called the wizard and I forgot the other , I don't think the game is available anymore as I can't find any info online as I once could?
can you put more horde on up, i keep getting beaten (only new to game i can beat)
in my opinion it is just best to sac all the pieces except the queen on one of the side ranks and then just munch all the pawns
Wow, you even beat a 2055 player! Congrats! In my experience, it's actually much harder to win as the pawns. There's much less room for error and you have to make every pawn-push count. Draws are pretty intuitive; white can run out of legal moves.Black can survive on a King-and-Knight or King-and-Bishop ending,.. or just a king alone! (since that's all that's needed to capture pawns)
@Bryan-to6cq
7 жыл бұрын
Josh Rodrigues Jerry is rated quite higher than 2000
@LilyKazami
4 жыл бұрын
It's also possible to get into a situation where white has just a queen so can't mate, but black doesn't have enough material to trap it either
Black has the advantage to start. It is a 3 point advantage. This is basically like having an extra knight or bishop on the board.
I had no idea you get 2 seconds after you make a move haha
I kept humming the "Imperial march" from Star Wars... the pawns where about as good as stormtrooper aim is.
Once you get in the back rows, you pretty much won
Quality over quantity. That's our lesson here.
How do you win? Capture all their pieces?
Was excited to see you play the chess pieces after seeing you use the pawns. 2-0.
At 12:04 why not Nxf5? This prevents the check and if they take the knight, then rook can destroy most pawns from the back.
Jerrys game have more pawns, than the horde chess, on the wikipedia link. Why is that?
Amazing
Besides time, isnt the game ended with a draw in possition? Just g4 and i cannot see what black could do to win the game
this reminded me of that space invaders scene from futurama. i hear lur leader of the planet omicron persei 8 yelling "increase speed, drop down and reverse direction!!" "instead of shooting at where i was, you should have been shooting at where i was going to be!"
Everybody gangsta till the pawns reach the opposit side
i feel like the objective for black would be to stalemate... or is that too easy?
how does the time work near the end? It seemed like you were behind, but then he lost on time.
@DylanYu99
7 жыл бұрын
every time you move, you gain 2 seconds
Why didn't he en passant take your A and H pawns?
@BDAShadow1
7 жыл бұрын
ahh, of course. cheers.
Can u do it again but vs a rook horde?
@bonchidude
5 жыл бұрын
No, because it would be too unfair an advantage. The rooks would have about 5 times the firepower. A game like that would be lopsided.
9.04: How about queen take on d6?
Terrific
Second move with queen's knight was a big error, missed by white
i use my king as defense a lot after a while not hide him so pawns not gonna reach last rank that easy, rooks and queens are far best pieces, nighs dont seem to do well in horde so i happy to sac but i am new, trying to learn horde
Your slowness killed me dude
How does one become a national master? Do you have to win at a tourney or something?
@BeBopScraBoo
7 жыл бұрын
if you beat enough masters your ELO rating will eventually get high enough to be called a master.
There is a way to win. pawnC7,rookC2,pawnC8,rookC8,pawnG4,queenF7,(pawnG5,bishopE7,pawnF7,kingF7,pawnG4,kingG4 and black win),pawnF4,kingF4,pawnG5,bishopE7,pawnG6 And King to G6 is a beautiful Win
The best strategy is to open a column on either of the sides and get your rock or queen to the last line of white and slaughter the pawns from behind!