Hopelessly Outmatched, the Vânătorul de Care R35 | Cursed by Design

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  • @ConeOfArc
    @ConeOfArc2 жыл бұрын

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  • @deirasjankauskas3381

    @deirasjankauskas3381

    2 жыл бұрын

    Have you thought about doing any of the hwk series tank or from other sources like world of tanks?

  • @IkeaAds.com_BMD7

    @IkeaAds.com_BMD7

    2 жыл бұрын

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  • @TheArklyte

    @TheArklyte

    2 жыл бұрын

    1)it was mighty fine if it had appeared before 1943 en masse as soviets still had many T-60/70 in service and even some T-26/BT-7 left. 2)the project is mostly sabotaged by ever present german kleptomany - take all military trophies to Germany for melting down... and then leave them in the field rusting away under the rain. Rearming hungarians, italians, romanians and finns with captured czech, french and soviet equipment should have been top priority for trophy management. Every man hour those nations invested into their own domestic projects that lead nowhere could have been better utilized making conversions/upgunning/uparmoring more modern trophy vehicles. It would have helped secure other fronts as well as increase morale and commitment of said nations. Thankfully for millions of Allied soldiers, who returned home, germans remained germans;)

  • @cassustheking1286

    @cassustheking1286

    2 жыл бұрын

    Vanatorul de carne means meat hunter, not tank hunter

  • @Chockination

    @Chockination

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi @coneofarc I love your channel! I'm in the industry and I really enjoy learning about the development cycles of historic tanks! I'm working on writing a channel that analyzes mass shootings and the last piece I need is a video editing software and filmora sounds great! My intent is to bring a deeper understanding to the topic that usually gets lost in the headlines and political posturing, to enhance both the public discourse on the topic and the survival knowledge of the average person. Thanks and keep up the great work!

  • @svenjonsson9
    @svenjonsson92 жыл бұрын

    "was like trying to cram a pool stick inside a backpack" - absolutely epic statement about trying to fit bigger guns in turrets that were designed for them, LOL!

  • @ab3ki84hayate

    @ab3ki84hayate

    2 жыл бұрын

    lol

  • @TheDiner50

    @TheDiner50

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sound like no one have had experienced a pool elite friend to make that statement. The backpack just need to accept the pool stick being showed into it XD Like how Russian crews are showed into a T54 and the like. Really if the backpack is "made to fit" a long ass pool stick what's the problem? Outside of hitting door frames and getting on the bus that is :)

  • @TheArklyte

    @TheArklyte

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheDiner50 Valentine crews would probably envy those of T-54 by a lot, but okay, keep going:D

  • @jaex9617

    @jaex9617

    2 жыл бұрын

    Most pool cues are two pieces, but I'm being pedantic. If that turret was any smaller they'd have to use a sawed-off shotgun. 😸

  • @General_Rubenski

    @General_Rubenski

    2 жыл бұрын

    Jesus Christ, some of you nutters find the slightest shit absolutely hilarious

  • @dr.torpedo4350
    @dr.torpedo43502 жыл бұрын

    What Gaijin thinks we want: Some strange Jets What WT Community really wants:

  • @jamesharding3459

    @jamesharding3459

    2 жыл бұрын

    Goddammit, I just want a Spad so I can live out my fantasy of flying with the Lafayette Escadrille!

  • @alinalexandru2466

    @alinalexandru2466

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jamesharding3459 Rise of Flight time! :) And yeah, I too wish War Thunder would go back to the early periods, like WW1, Interwar and early WW2.

  • @mpk6664

    @mpk6664

    2 жыл бұрын

    This would be a great event tank for French low tiers. They need some guns that actually pen things.

  • @mlaatrpl435

    @mlaatrpl435

    2 жыл бұрын

    100 :)

  • @drmemes-jg6ur

    @drmemes-jg6ur

    2 жыл бұрын

    I want Poland

  • @ethantaylor9613
    @ethantaylor96132 жыл бұрын

    What gets me about french design is that they had a couple things down well, mostly the armor, but they where completely clueless about several other key features The most egregious of which was definitely the division of labor and larger turrets. The main reason I played War Thunder as long as I did was to experience the French prototypes that never saw service that actually fixed a pot of design problems mentioned.

  • @guvyygvuhh298

    @guvyygvuhh298

    2 жыл бұрын

    Edit: ok i get it the lack of man power is a mith. Im still not gonna edit the comment below bcz im a lazy fuck, now leave me alone. Have a nice day! They were not completly clueless. 2 man tanks were the solution for a nation with no adult males left after WW1, after all you get a lot more tanks for just as much crew, even tho the commander is overworked with loading the gun, aiming, commanding the tank and using the rarely installed radio (the lack of a radio also makes sense, they did not want the germans to interfere, give false orders or get information from them. Flawed logic, but makes sense nevertheless). For the french government the pros of cheaper, more numerous tanks outweighed the cons of cramped and overworked crews

  • @phunkracy

    @phunkracy

    2 жыл бұрын

    it's the true French way. They are often the most innovative arms designers, but with that innovation, they often wander into the wrong avenue of development. They thought ww1 tanks were the way to go (because they worked brilliantly) and made the best ww1- style tanks. But duh, turns out it was a wrong approach. They were some of the first to develop all-metal airplanes, but duh, they stuck with biplane design for too long. They were competing with British in naval tech, but through pure bad luck, their approach was again the bad approach.

  • @danieltsiprun8080

    @danieltsiprun8080

    2 жыл бұрын

    Are you masochistic?

  • @phunkracy

    @phunkracy

    2 жыл бұрын

    French tanks in ww2 had some brilkiant engineering. It is actually extremely difficult to cast thick armor plates. The French did it first and well. Meanwhile other great powers couldnt do it until few years into the war.

  • @DOSFS

    @DOSFS

    2 жыл бұрын

    French just try to do in the situation that she found herself in. Male population and economic downturn are the biggest problems leading to French tank design that we knew. 2 man tank to reduce crew require per tank to increases total tank number. WW1 guns due to lack of money and plenty of spare ammunition. (Biggest problems is doctrine and radio) Despite this France was still able to make some great improvements such as cast armor and others but still cannot overcome other shortcomings of the French armed force. We can only think about what next-generation French tank be if she can fight for another 2-3 years.

  • @richardpavlik3652
    @richardpavlik36522 жыл бұрын

    13:38 I'm from Slovakia, and all I was able to find out is that pictures of turret were taken by Romanian guy, and it was taken on Event called Reenactment That takes place every year in village named Stary Tekov. This event is reconstruction of fights that took place on River Hron. Where, by the Rumunian Sourceres in 26-27 march 1945, the 8of these variants of r35 were destroyed and 2 were Damadged

  • @lubordianovsky9307

    @lubordianovsky9307

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yep, I live near Starý Tekov and I can confirm, that this turret is on display there in an inn called Bažantnica.

  • @512TheWolf512

    @512TheWolf512

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lubordianovsky9307 need to bump this message up so that cone sees it

  • @purpleldv966

    @purpleldv966

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@512TheWolf512 Here's a helping hand!

  • @martinhulin

    @martinhulin

    10 ай бұрын

    Hi! I am from czechia.

  • @shroder2748
    @shroder27482 жыл бұрын

    I feel like the tank itself is outmatched constantly, but the chassis is actually pretty good. From the looks of it, it could have been a good light tank/IFV.

  • @canadian_razor738

    @canadian_razor738

    2 жыл бұрын

    to have a "light tank" one has to have a medium or heavy tank as well, otherwise it's just a tank.

  • @chefchaudard3580

    @chefchaudard3580

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not really. The tank was not that bad at the beginning of the war, but it was slow, and use a drivetrain derived from a reconnaissance vehicle, the AMR35, which was optimized for road speed, at the expense of cross country capabilities. It had the worst of both worlds. The gun itself was taken from retired FT tanks, for economical reasons. The only reason it was bought in the first place is that it was cheap, and Renault could manufacture it in large numbers.

  • @Sapoman2211

    @Sapoman2211

    2 жыл бұрын

    I feel like the best thing that could have been done with these hulls is putting short 75mm or similar howizter on them and using them as close/urban infantry support. Such a vehicle would have been outstanding in a situation such as stalingrad.

  • @LostBeaver

    @LostBeaver

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Sapoman2211 Turret likely wasn't big enough.

  • @kombatace7971

    @kombatace7971

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Sapoman2211 or might not have enough ammo, 75mm shells are real big

  • @Anlushac11
    @Anlushac112 жыл бұрын

    It may be obsolete against other tanks but even a R35 would be a formidable monster to a infantryman with a rifle.

  • @Zorro9129

    @Zorro9129

    2 жыл бұрын

    Having played Foxhole, even an early war tank is a big force multiplier in infantry combat.

  • @michaelvonbiskhoff7771

    @michaelvonbiskhoff7771

    2 жыл бұрын

    The fact that this thing rearmed with the 45mm gun was better than 90% of the tanks fielded by Italy or Japan

  • @e.s.6275

    @e.s.6275

    2 жыл бұрын

    But not to an infantryman with grenades, or with a Molotov cocktail.

  • @Zorro9129

    @Zorro9129

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@e.s.6275 Okay, let's see you walk up to a turreted tank rolling up to you, throwing things at it until you get a lucky hit.

  • @e.s.6275

    @e.s.6275

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Zorro9129 no-no, you don't do walking UP to a tank, unless you are after a suicide. The method is, 1) you hide and move along in a trench line, noting where the tanks approach, preparing your grenades/cocktails, and aiming at any enemy infantrymen incoming close with the tanks. Don't stay in one place, just move randomly in the trenches, hiding down as you move. 2) as the tanks cross the trench line, they become vulnerable to infantry attacks , as they are basically blind and not protected from behind by the machine guns. This is when you follow it and set it's engine bay on fire! or in the absence of a Molotov cocktail, throw a few grenades under its caterpillar tracks. Same can be done from a side rather than from the back, if you're lucky to be nearby, so staying still in the trench, that is less risky. THE most important aspect during that action of course is to stay in cold mind, to remember that the steel monsters are still vulnerable, if you do it right. Any panic, and there is no chance for you.

  • @kainedemigod101
    @kainedemigod1012 жыл бұрын

    It’s actually rather interesting to learn about the minor nations of WWII Coz they had some rather interesting tank designs like Poland and it would be super cool to see them included more in video games kinda like how WoT has polish and Czechoslovakian tank tech trees

  • @KomradIosif

    @KomradIosif

    2 жыл бұрын

    I would recommend going deeper in this topic as there are some really good tanks and prototypes. Like the hungarian panther kind of thing that I don't remember the name of.

  • @v-nem144

    @v-nem144

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@KomradIosif I think that was the 44m tas

  • @simonfejta3434

    @simonfejta3434

    2 жыл бұрын

    I would be even happier if they shared documents of those tanks. For example those Czechoslovakian heavies, i can't find any blueprint or anything about them.

  • @realbismarck

    @realbismarck

    2 жыл бұрын

    its hard to learn tho because they have so little sources

  • @kameronjones7139

    @kameronjones7139

    2 жыл бұрын

    The main issue is finding sources that survived considering how outdated most of their equipment was even before the war started

  • @lexthemystic3541
    @lexthemystic35412 жыл бұрын

    Mulțumesc pentru videoul! One step closer to a video on the Mareșal Tank Destroyer, and I'm absolutely looking forward to it! Looking forward to more!

  • @void1n

    @void1n

    2 жыл бұрын

    hi i speak romanian but wtf does care mean

  • @petre5827

    @petre5827

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@void1n ,,care" means "wagon" or something like that.

  • @georgecristiancripcia4819

    @georgecristiancripcia4819

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@void1n "Car de lupta" or "care de lupta" was the original designation of tanks in the romanian military and "car" or "care" means chariot,like those used by egyptians in battle in the times of ramses the second

  • @georgebacanu227

    @georgebacanu227

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@petre5827 in fact, the term "car de lupta" was the term used by the Romanian army when referring to tanks or armored cars. At that time, the term tank had not yet been adopted as a specific name for armored vehicles in the army. In this case, "vanatorul de care" would be the tank hunter.

  • @MIMthegreat

    @MIMthegreat

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@void1n Also "care" is like in french "Char". It basically means "cart" or "chariot".

  • @scootergeorge9576
    @scootergeorge95762 жыл бұрын

    The the 47 mm equipped R35 would have been superior to most of the armored vehicles used by the Italian and Japanese armies.

  • @michaelvonbiskhoff7771

    @michaelvonbiskhoff7771

    2 жыл бұрын

    This version is still better than most Italian or Japanese tanks

  • @scootergeorge9576

    @scootergeorge9576

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@michaelvonbiskhoff7771 - Also true.

  • @chefchaudard3580

    @chefchaudard3580

    2 жыл бұрын

    In the 30s, when it became obvious that tanks needed some antitank capability, tank designers thought that a tank would have to weight at least 20t to accomodate the 47mm SA 35. That is the reason why the 37mm SA 38 was designed in the first place. So, fitting a larger gun in the R35 was quite an achievement!

  • @ineednochannelyoutube5384

    @ineednochannelyoutube5384

    2 жыл бұрын

    One man turret, abysmal visibility and crew ergonomic, overloaded commander, underpowered engine, no upgrade potential. It would have only been superior to tankettes. Without exaggeration it was the poorest adopted tank of the interwar years.

  • @chefchaudard3580

    @chefchaudard3580

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ineednochannelyoutube5384 if you consider the PzKpfW I as a tankette, I agree!

  • @Vlad_-_-_
    @Vlad_-_-_2 жыл бұрын

    This tank kind of ilustrates the romanian spirit. We often try to do our best with what we have, even if what we have is not really adequate. Thanks for the video man, content covering the fighting done by minor Axis on the Eastern Front is rare.

  • @henryrodgers7386

    @henryrodgers7386

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm reminded of the motto of the fictional nation of Elbonia: "We do our best with the absolute worst!"

  • @General_Rubenski

    @General_Rubenski

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@henryrodgers7386 I keep seeing this Elbonia place everywhere on military videos but can’t find the damn place! Where does it come from?

  • @Vlad_-_-_

    @Vlad_-_-_

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@henryrodgers7386 That is basically Romania every day of the week.

  • @beverlychmelik5504

    @beverlychmelik5504

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@General_Rubenski The comic strip Dilbert has the fictional country, Elbonia in it. There was a series done by several You Tube streamers that said if "I was secretly a traitor but I was in charge of military aquisitions what would I buy for my military that looked good on paper, but would actually hamper our military.'

  • @gillespriod5509

    @gillespriod5509

    2 жыл бұрын

    And this May Be when Romania falled in love with Renault, It can be considered the first dacia ever!

  • @wallachia4797
    @wallachia47972 жыл бұрын

    As a Romanian, the thought of one of our tanks facing off against two Tiger IIs just sends a shiver down my spine. As you said, balls of steel.

  • @Macrochenia

    @Macrochenia

    2 жыл бұрын

    Reminds me of a certain quote from Kelly's Heroes: "The only way I got to keep them Tigers busy is to LET THEM SHOOT HOLES IN ME!"

  • @konstantinriumin2657

    @konstantinriumin2657

    2 жыл бұрын

    To be fair, plenty of light tanks were used in ww2 until the end. Things like Soviet T-70 and American M3 Stuarts mostly

  • @Player-st4hn

    @Player-st4hn

    10 ай бұрын

    Not balls of steel, just utter naivety about how bad romanian tanks are.

  • @robiagacitei5487

    @robiagacitei5487

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Player-st4hn they had nothing else to use, better than nothing. also the tank by itself was not bad, it was just paired against much newer tanks.

  • @copperfox8695
    @copperfox86952 жыл бұрын

    Glad to see you doing minor countries tanks! Really waiting for the Maresal or TACAM R.2 videos

  • @gillespriod5509

    @gillespriod5509

    2 жыл бұрын

    Romania long love story with Renault started here i suppose

  • @Stuka87
    @Stuka872 жыл бұрын

    I don't think this tank fits into the "cursed by design" stereotype. At the time of its development, it was quite good. And certainly better than many other tanks at the time. If anything, I think the Romanian's should be commended on making it work for as long as they did.

  • @meme-ni9ch

    @meme-ni9ch

    2 жыл бұрын

    Tbh he often uses this series for vehicles that don’t fit it

  • @reiver9031

    @reiver9031

    2 жыл бұрын

    While not cursed by design, beyond an inability to be upgraded, it was certainly cursed by fate, in being built by a nation that couldn't replace it. The thought of such a wee little vehicle prowling streets in earnest, contemporary to Panthers and Tigers must have been as unsettling to their occupants as it is astounding to us now.

  • @billd.iniowa2263

    @billd.iniowa2263

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think the "cursed" part is the one-man turret.

  • @ineednochannelyoutube5384

    @ineednochannelyoutube5384

    2 жыл бұрын

    The Renault R35 was not "good for its time". It was always worthless.

  • @Stuka87

    @Stuka87

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ineednochannelyoutube5384 Thats simply not true. The tank was designed in 1933, and at that point, it was by no means bad. Technology moved very fast during the following twelve years though.

  • @sorrymabbad
    @sorrymabbad2 жыл бұрын

    Immediately clicked as soon as this showed up, and I know it's gonna be good. Edit: Finished the video. It was as good as I expected. Can't wait for more. Especially about the Turan tank.

  • @italiancountryball865

    @italiancountryball865

    2 жыл бұрын

    same being 50% italian and 50% hungarian only thing missing from him are hungarian tanks

  • @generaln.gabriel1240
    @generaln.gabriel12402 жыл бұрын

    When i heard Vânătorul de care R-35 i imediat imagined a cart whit two horses which had R-35 painted on em and in the cart a squad of soldier armed whit anti tank rifles and molotov cocktails

  • @ogobubu9037

    @ogobubu9037

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's ammm,interesant to say the least :))

  • @michaelvonbiskhoff7771

    @michaelvonbiskhoff7771

    2 жыл бұрын

    Car de luptă was the standard name for a tank before the communist era, being a translation of the French word for tank char de bataille

  • @purpleldv966

    @purpleldv966

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's because the word tank didn't catch on till then.

  • @generaln.gabriel1240

    @generaln.gabriel1240

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@purpleldv966 Ofcourse it didn't, its an English word and we used tk simp only for French

  • @purpleldv966

    @purpleldv966

    2 жыл бұрын

    ​@@generaln.gabriel1240 "tk simp only..." Huh? Well if you consider it so obvious, then why did you say you imagine some horse-drawn cart?

  • @zulkifligumilang3155
    @zulkifligumilang31552 жыл бұрын

    I know this tank from Steel Division 2, this tank basically just armored self propelled anti tank gun that can't hid it self in forrest.

  • @xxyourgirlcallmedaddyxx5770

    @xxyourgirlcallmedaddyxx5770

    2 жыл бұрын

    Except it’s not an anti tank gun because that little gun can’t do much to anything

  • @steffent.6477

    @steffent.6477

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, only usefull when you go for a Meme build ^^

  • @cosmin_budda
    @cosmin_budda2 жыл бұрын

    As a Romanian I loved this 📹 🎥 Keep going mate! Just subscribed

  • @guvyygvuhh298
    @guvyygvuhh2982 жыл бұрын

    For a second I though YT fucked up translations again But no, thats just our shitty R35

  • @victorconstantinescu7364
    @victorconstantinescu73642 жыл бұрын

    You just won the hearts and respect of the Romanian community 👏

  • @powchili
    @powchili2 жыл бұрын

    13:20 I dont know if that r35 fought the tiger or faught along side it, either way I think that r35 is a chad! That photo just looks so epic to me

  • @Pakicetus_

    @Pakicetus_

    2 жыл бұрын

    He just used the circle of dead, that's how you kill a heavy tank using light tanks GG

  • @Serby665

    @Serby665

    2 жыл бұрын

    I wonder how long before the Romanian crew realized they spawned a low Battle Rating tank in a high Level match.

  • @gheetza14

    @gheetza14

    2 жыл бұрын

    ​@skyZZo Didn't they get Panthers?

  • @Mathias-tu2lz
    @Mathias-tu2lz2 жыл бұрын

    I hope there will be more Romania related videos!

  • @Rob-326

    @Rob-326

    2 жыл бұрын

    Let's hope for a video on the IAR-80.

  • @watcherzero5256
    @watcherzero52562 жыл бұрын

    Lol, you could mount the whole R35 in place of the Tiger 2's turret.

  • @Shojikitsune1

    @Shojikitsune1

    2 жыл бұрын

    My tank has a tank. Your argument is invalid. 😆

  • @hijinkstodeath1722
    @hijinkstodeath17222 жыл бұрын

    Loved this in-depth look at a tank not from the big three.

  • @powchili

    @powchili

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree, I find these types of videos about niche tanks from axis minors very interesting, and due to coneofarc giving an in-depth look into them makes this very enjoyable to watch

  • @isimiel3405
    @isimiel34052 жыл бұрын

    this thing brings new meaning to "he's trying his best"

  • @alexfusneica2624
    @alexfusneica26242 жыл бұрын

    As a Romanian I highly appreciate this! Also your pronunciations were very good.

  • @Orca19904
    @Orca199042 жыл бұрын

    I could see the Care R35 possibly being added as a low-tier premium or event tank for France in War Thunder.

  • @gotohyoshihisa3971
    @gotohyoshihisa39712 жыл бұрын

    Minor Axis countries:We need tanks Germany Germany:No *Germany starts losing eastern front Minor Axis countries:We REALLY need them Germany:.... Here are some outdated Czech and German tanks Romania:*scrapes together outdated french tanks because Germany doing nothing and Thier inability to produce Thier own tanks *Germany proceeds to only give Hungry Tigers while Minor Axis countries leaving the Axis or just get conquered by Russia

  • @v-nem144

    @v-nem144

    2 жыл бұрын

    The funny thing is Hungary really got some tigers, but the germans didn't even want to hear about a licence version of the 75mm kwk 42 l/70. Such a confusion.

  • @sannikovbobik

    @sannikovbobik

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@v-nem144 indeed 😂

  • @ineednochannelyoutube5384

    @ineednochannelyoutube5384

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@v-nem144 hungary did have a livense for the 7.5cm/L42, it disnt really need it though. It was domestically producing an 8cm AA gun in L50, L56 and L70 versions, as well as a 7.5cm/L31 AT gun, which could rather easily have recieved a longer barell.

  • @rojam3620

    @rojam3620

    2 жыл бұрын

    Germany gave Romania some Panzer IV's and StuG III's. Go check out the Romanian 1st Armored Division "Romania Mare". This division saw it's last action in 1944, where the soviet union invaded Romania.

  • @OffGridInvestor

    @OffGridInvestor

    2 жыл бұрын

    You realize that ONLY SWEDEN was selling them coal and that they had NOBODY giving them oil and ALL THEIR FUEL was synthetic fuel made from coal right (Fisher-Tropsch process)??? People even cut off LOANS to sweden because they once reloaned 43 million to the nazis after borrowing 45 million off the USA.

  • @Serby665
    @Serby6652 жыл бұрын

    Excited about a Maresal TD vid. Considering how Ro was getting roflstomped by OP Russia, the Maresal TD was actually a decent idea. It inspired the successful Hetzer. Also, the R35 next to a KT looks like a cute toy. At one point, the Ro crew must have have said: 'lol, we spawned reserve tank at high BR. GG'

  • @Kiefiron

    @Kiefiron

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hetzer was inspired by Mareșal

  • @leonst.7471
    @leonst.74712 жыл бұрын

    I really wish for a balkan/Yugoslav tech tree for warthunder since it would fit so many smaller nations tanks and planes

  • @christofferthorsson7657
    @christofferthorsson76572 жыл бұрын

    Excited to hear about the turan and the aa variant. Since they were introduced to steel division 2 I've grown quite attached to them

  • @FirstDagger
    @FirstDagger2 жыл бұрын

    That remaining turret belongs in a museum.

  • @michaeltelson9798
    @michaeltelson97982 жыл бұрын

    From my understanding, many of the Polish R35 tanks weren’t fully equipped as they were in mobilization at the time of the German attack. They used the tanks in a fighting retreat against the Soviets as they withdrew into Romania. There may have been some shipped via Romania as well to complete the order.

  • @TheArklyte
    @TheArklyte2 жыл бұрын

    1)it was mighty fine if it had appeared before 1943 en masse as soviets still had many T-60/70 in service and even some T-26/BT-7 left. 2)the project is mostly sabotaged by ever present german kleptomany - take all military trophies to Germany for melting down... and then leave them in the field rusting away under the rain. Rearming hungarians, italians, romanians and finns with captured czech, french and soviet equipment should have been top priority for trophy management. Every man hour those nations invested into their own domestic projects that lead nowhere could have been better utilized making conversions/upgunning/uparmoring more modern trophy vehicles. It would have helped secure other fronts as well as increase morale and commitment of said nations. Thankfully for millions of Allied soldiers, who returned home, germans remained germans;)

  • @michaelvonbiskhoff7771

    @michaelvonbiskhoff7771

    2 жыл бұрын

    The Romanians captured enough 45mm guns in 1941 that it became the standard AT gun for the cavalry

  • @TheArklyte

    @TheArklyte

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@michaelvonbiskhoff7771 I've meant R35, R40, H35 and H39. Germans captured them in 1940 and... pretty much abandoned them to training at best. Meanwhile Romania had spare parts production for them and tank school that specialized in that exact tank model. It was better off to provide your own allies with equipment that can be used now then allow it to rot and get obsolete somewhere in France in 1944. Likewise italians could have really used those B1bis and S35 in north Africa when M3 Lee first showed up. And on topic of B1 reliability, while during the war they were breaking down every 30 km, properly maintained B1 had made several propaganda tours during interwar period which easily crossed 200 km each without trouble. So yeah, if properly maintained, it could be a match for M3.

  • @Matt.71

    @Matt.71

    2 жыл бұрын

    In 41 the somua factory called the axis powers to tell them that their new somua 40 was ready for production and an upgraded variant with 3 man turret and 47 sa 37 gun could be made, just imagine if germany had allowed somua to make tanks for the axis minor powers

  • @chefchaudard3580

    @chefchaudard3580

    2 жыл бұрын

    Political and strategical reasons. Hitler did not want to depend on foreign countries, being them allies. And Germany badly needed captured equipment. Captured French tanks were used on the Eastern front during 41/42 winter, to make for the losses of Barbarossa. And, after that, German army made use of everything that had an engine, from cars, to aircrafts, to tanks, they can put their hands on. There were still French tanks in front line units as late as 1944. The 21st Panzer Div. in Normandy had some Somua S35 (along outdated Pz IVc). The unit was in the process of replacing them with Panther, but, still. Of course, German propaganda focused on the most impressive, German, tanks to boost morale, but many units still used hastily modified, if not outdated tanks, Polish machine guns, Czech rifles, Russian guns and... horsecarts.

  • @hamnporkgamer
    @hamnporkgamer2 жыл бұрын

    For the love of God gaijin pls add this to the French researchable tree, God knows they need a boost for their tier 1

  • @bradenehlke7652

    @bradenehlke7652

    2 жыл бұрын

    Who’s gonna tell him

  • @moist3963

    @moist3963

    2 жыл бұрын

    uh

  • @seanisaiahr.membrebe644

    @seanisaiahr.membrebe644

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just make em a prem french tech tree only got a few low br prem tank

  • @Falconguygaming

    @Falconguygaming

    2 жыл бұрын

    I recently made the poor decision to grind France. I hope it gets better

  • @tony9peter

    @tony9peter

    2 жыл бұрын

    lmao it was a reserve tank for france but they removed it cause it was so shit

  • @forzaf1gtaracingandmore824
    @forzaf1gtaracingandmore8242 жыл бұрын

    TIL that R35’s invaded the Soviet Union in the hands of Romania , sounds just about like a regular war thunder match. Also learned that R35 from France and R35 from Romania could both historically have faced a Maus if they were made in numbers. De care R35 definitely has its place in war thunder.

  • @powchili
    @powchili2 жыл бұрын

    I love you're videos dude, love the in-depth look into these niche tanks from minor countries, keep it up!

  • @homelessEh
    @homelessEh2 жыл бұрын

    7:13 .. .. .. .. wait a second.. . is it just me or is this probably 2022's world of tanks teir 3 gift tank i bet lol

  • @tsrorst2792
    @tsrorst27922 жыл бұрын

    The R.35s are the cutest little tanks. Some of my favorite memories in war thunder came from these tanks

  • @300guy
    @300guy2 жыл бұрын

    Hey Cone, definitely the best of a bad situation. Macgyvering things together to get a little more use out of them has a long and storied tradition in warfare as you know. As far as usefulness, I think the Lebanese version with the 2pdr was probably the more formidable. You always hear about there being no good explosive round for the 2pdr, but wasn't it the same size ammunition as was used in the Pom Pom AA gun? Which obviously had to be an explosive fragmentation round.

  • @jon-paulfilkins7820

    @jon-paulfilkins7820

    2 жыл бұрын

    May be a myth but I Understood that the HE shell for the 2pdr was dropped because an early try just shattered in the barrel with disastrous results for the gun (for the time, very high velocity, meets manufacturing flaw = split barrel). It was decided that as wartime manufacture would see a drop in quality, it was better not to bother putting crews in danger. Though it seems Australia did make an HE shell for their Matilda's late war. May have been better off using the also 40mm Bofors shells that were in production for the AA Guns that were the British Standard (though not sure of shell profile etc, which if off, could cause problems).

  • @gotohyoshihisa3971

    @gotohyoshihisa3971

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well High explosive fragmentation rounds would work well with AA guns knowing that Planes have no armour or are basically made out of wooden frames, so I don't think it would work for Anti tank guns(unless you are going to use the tank like a SPAA

  • @300guy

    @300guy

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@gotohyoshihisa3971 For anti personnel and use against anti-tank and machine gun placements for which a solid hunk of metal is not the best counter doesn't necessarily have to damage the gun at all as long as it damages the crew. Which is what British crews complained about not having.

  • @rorythomas9469

    @rorythomas9469

    2 жыл бұрын

    The 2pdr pom pom ammunition was not compatible with the 2pdr anti tank gun, neither were compatible with the 40mm Bofors. My understanding is that there was a 2pdr HE round, but it wasn't used as it had such a tiny explosive charge (less than a hand grenade) to be not worth it

  • @gotohyoshihisa3971

    @gotohyoshihisa3971

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@rorythomas9469 How to make the HE work step 1:reverse your tank into a ditch so that the tank guns are facing upwards step 2: hope that you could possibly hit a plane step 3:Marvel at this either ingernious or moronic idea

  • @parrot849
    @parrot8492 жыл бұрын

    An outstanding video about a subject that had the potential to be pretty dry. Excellent from start to finish, thanks. I’ve always had a particular interest in twentieth century French armor, and it’s somewhat difficult to find quality presentations on the subject. Hope you plan to produce more like this one.

  • @carlmontney7916
    @carlmontney7916 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent presentation sir and well done. When fighting a war you use whatever is available to you. New or old, good or bad. You take it and fight. The bravery of the crews who took these onto battle cannot be denied!

  • @vibeslide
    @vibeslide Жыл бұрын

    Everyone: "Bigger guns!" The French: "Alors, what gun to put into our new tank mes amis?" "The shortest, naturellement! Everything else would destroy it's magnificent elegance!" "Très bien!" *Opens bottle of red wine*

  • @benlewis4241
    @benlewis42412 жыл бұрын

    This was a very good Video- the quality was brilliant. I'd love to see one on the TACAM's as well!

  • @randallreed9048
    @randallreed90482 жыл бұрын

    Very nice piece, indeed. Thank you for your research and scholarship.

  • @eh2341
    @eh2341 Жыл бұрын

    2 man crew in that tiny tank. Good Lord! I can imagine. Driver, plus Commander/Loader/Gunner/Radio operator. Balls of steel, indeed.

  • @elitegeneral3296
    @elitegeneral32962 жыл бұрын

    I am from România, and all I can say is that we always had less than other countryes when it comes to a conflict, but we manage to fight with what we had and most of the time we manage to win

  • @PaperThinArmor
    @PaperThinArmor2 жыл бұрын

    Hopefully that surviving turret is found and isnt scrapped.

  • @OffGridInvestor

    @OffGridInvestor

    2 жыл бұрын

    Pure fact there's a photo shows that people KNOW about it. Probably waiting for some old fart to die so they can get it to a museum.

  • @chris_hisss
    @chris_hisss2 жыл бұрын

    Wow, had no idea! So cool finding out new info on these rarely spoken of vehicles. Hard to believe they got so much use out of them! They were the right tank for right then I guess, good that they had them but ultimately didn't matter because they housed both sides that they were trying to defend against. Nice video.

  • @Chockination
    @Chockination2 жыл бұрын

    Hi @coneofarc I love your channel! I'm in the industry and I really enjoy learning about the development cycles of historic tanks! I'm working on writing a channel that analyzes mass shootings and the last piece I need is a video editing software and filmora sounds great! My intent is to bring a deeper understanding to the topic that usually gets lost in the headlines and political posturing, to enhance both the public discourse on the topic and the survival knowledge of the average person. Thanks and keep up the great work!

  • @potato8606
    @potato86062 жыл бұрын

    Hey, i love your cursed by design series, and it would be cool to see an episode about the polish 7tp, tks, or tkd, one of the more forgotten tanks of ww2

  • @RHD_lantz
    @RHD_lantz2 жыл бұрын

    3:05 Origin of ConeOfArc right there

  • @gongimmick6269
    @gongimmick62692 жыл бұрын

    Have ta say, ConeOfArc is right about them having balls of steel. 2 Bros in a bathtub, rolling towards monsters of war whom they could barley harm and they could just drive over them and crush em.

  • @drydogg
    @drydogg2 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Good topic. I like your work, sir.

  • @1982valeriu
    @1982valeriu2 жыл бұрын

    Good research and a well done video about a much lesser known tank hunter, also appreciating you commending the crews, cheers! Romania had a very limited armoured force both in numbers and quality, mostly light tanks, with Germany supplying 22 Pz III and IV in late 1942 (considered heavy tanks in Romanian inventory) and another 50 second hand LtVz 38s in 1943. Given that by late 1943 almost all these rather obsolete tanks had been lost, and Germany was still being a total miser, they had to do something, and this means hodgepodging - TACAM R-2, TACAM T-60 and the R-35 tank hunter. Germany had finally come to wits and supplied Romania with Stug IIIG's and Pz IV H's but it was a bit too little too late. Anyway, if you need a bit more info on Romanian tanks (both locally produced or of German origin), gimme a shout, I am working on a book project about Romanian armour. Good work, and keep it up!

  • @garywheeler7039
    @garywheeler70392 жыл бұрын

    Good to see some more unusual stuff. Surprising the tough little tanks lasted so long.

  • @goldballistics6349
    @goldballistics63492 жыл бұрын

    Hey cone your one of my favorite you tubers I you inspire me to keep on going and making videos my self even with the low amount of 22 subs and I can't wait until I become as good as you

  • @benlaskowski357
    @benlaskowski3572 жыл бұрын

    Great idea, I think. They gave them bigger guns and they did good. If it's what you have, improve it as best you can. Hats off.

  • @naamadossantossilva4736
    @naamadossantossilva47362 жыл бұрын

    A Marder-like conversion would be better.

  • @teddyb3303

    @teddyb3303

    2 жыл бұрын

    There were some conversions like this with the "TACAM" tanks

  • @theog8891

    @theog8891

    2 жыл бұрын

    Such conversions were made with the TACAM series (TACAM R-2 and TACAM T-60)

  • @michaelvonbiskhoff7771

    @michaelvonbiskhoff7771

    2 жыл бұрын

    Approx 50 were made, both on the Russian T 60 and the Romanian R-2

  • @sebipatru
    @sebipatru2 жыл бұрын

    An almost right movie. Congratulations! Some observations 1) Tanks were bought not confiscated from the polish goverment, which took shelter in Romania after the fall of Poland in 39. 2) Romania went at were with USSR, to recapture Bessarabia and Northern Bukovina, territories annexed by the soviets in 1940. 3) Romania was producing '45 ammunition. 4) Antonescu regime was not quite a fascist one.

  • @peoplesrepublicofliberland5606
    @peoplesrepublicofliberland56062 жыл бұрын

    I want this tank so much in War Thunder. The R-2 TACAM would also be great (it's gun is a mixed ZIS/Pak thing I would love it so much)

  • @antoniomadalinmihalache6206
    @antoniomadalinmihalache62062 жыл бұрын

    I as a romanian , thank you for binging light on them , do please keep them coming

  • @predastefan1396
    @predastefan13965 ай бұрын

    Im romainian and i can say for sure if it wasan t the soviet troops the r35 tank hunter and DOMESTICALY R35 would have seen the Light of Day în upgrade terms and yes due to lack production of resources it was the Best thing of a bad situation. Thank you very much for your time and all hard work you put through to find all this info. Merry Christmas to you and all your family too😊

  • @wawagwaw
    @wawagwaw2 жыл бұрын

    “The Vânâtorul We Don’t Care.” - some guys in a factoy

  • @teezy_tank
    @teezy_tank2 жыл бұрын

    I would really like to have filmora so I would be able to make compilations and videos of my games that I play with my friends. Followed you since the Panzer of the lake. Love the cursed by design videos, please more of that!

  • @johnlansing2902
    @johnlansing29022 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for mentions of the courage of the crews .

  • @Macrochenia
    @Macrochenia2 жыл бұрын

    The R35 looks like someone tried to turn a golf cart into a combat vehicle. While sniffing glue.

  • @qu_gnsnifflesss
    @qu_gnsnifflesss2 жыл бұрын

    R35 irl: R35 in wotb: *N U K E*

  • @Matt_from_Florida
    @Matt_from_Florida2 жыл бұрын

    13:23 That's just hilarious! A picture is worth a thousand words, indeed!

  • @andreasleonardo6793
    @andreasleonardo67932 жыл бұрын

    Nice & amazing channel & video thanks for sending

  • @JaM-R2TR4
    @JaM-R2TR42 жыл бұрын

    i think you are spot on saying the crew must have balls of steel to fight in those vehicles in 1944-45... its like giving infantry BBguns...

  • @vladtheinhaler8824
    @vladtheinhaler88242 жыл бұрын

    nice to see a Romanian tank hope for more :))

  • @conservativemike3768
    @conservativemike37682 жыл бұрын

    Handy for light infantry support, and ingenious considering how few resources were available.

  • @Cherb123456
    @Cherb1234562 жыл бұрын

    That Plushie looks absolutely lovely!

  • @EisenDrache125
    @EisenDrache1252 жыл бұрын

    I legit belived youtube translated the title in a wrong way once again. But only now I found out is a video about my country lol. Thanks!

  • @aliancemd
    @aliancemd Жыл бұрын

    Seeing it next to that Tiger II, you definitely needed balls of steel, as heavy as that Tiger II

  • @AimlessSavant
    @AimlessSavant2 жыл бұрын

    That Filmora ad is prolly the most transparent honest thing I've seen regarding them in yt vids

  • @markrowland1366
    @markrowland13662 жыл бұрын

    This was a good effort for a small country in a tight situation.

  • @Grebogoborp
    @Grebogoborp10 ай бұрын

    I like to imagine the R35 knocked out that tiger 2 through sheer force of will from the crew

  • @Frosty_tha_Snowman
    @Frosty_tha_Snowman2 жыл бұрын

    That intro was wonderful

  • @DeezNuts-xw7lu
    @DeezNuts-xw7lu2 жыл бұрын

    As a romanian myself, I'd like to say this is a certified cartier classic. Cartier, rough translation: neighbourhood

  • @MrPlusses
    @MrPlusses2 жыл бұрын

    This tank reminds of the inflatable decoys used to fool the enemy into thinking you have tanks.

  • @VersusARCH
    @VersusARCH2 жыл бұрын

    13:21 I'd like to think that the Tiger IIs ran out of fuel or their transmissions broke down and the mechannically less troubled and fuel-modest R35 merrily captured them :)

  • @nathanhall4156
    @nathanhall4156 Жыл бұрын

    This should be added to the Italian tech tree in War Thunder as a premium or event vehicle at around 2.0 BR. This is an amazing representation of the struggles the smaller nations of WW2 faced constantly.

  • @thomasaquinas2600
    @thomasaquinas26002 жыл бұрын

    We have to remember something about tanks early in WW2 or those from the interwar period. WW1 was the basis, and tanks were not designed to fight other tanks. They were designed to supersede trenches and fronts. Once WW2 got rolling, tanks had to consider countering other tanks...but even then, that was not their primary role. They were(WW1 again) designed to support infantry and...most of all...provide mobility. The mere presence of the enemy spread panic. Almost all the early German panzers were light and worthless tank-to-tank...the shock of the Blitzkrieg was the fact they moved quickly, penetrating Allied lines...

  • @michaelvonbiskhoff7771
    @michaelvonbiskhoff77712 жыл бұрын

    As far as I know, the Schneider-concordia M1936 AT gun was significantly more powerful than the 45mm gun due to having a higher penetration value. Unfortunately, there is only a Romanian wiki page for the 47mm Schneider, due to it being rejected by the French, which chose the Puteaux APX 47mm gun. The Schneider could penetrate 70mm of armour angled at 30 degrees at 400m, while the 45mm gun on the BT-7 could penetrate 64 mm of unangled armour at 500m, with an APCR shell, while with standard APHE or APHE-BC it could pen only 45mm of unangled armour at 500m.

  • @dan-gheorghe2277
    @dan-gheorghe22772 жыл бұрын

    Looking forward to a Tacam or Mareșal video!

  • @HarborLockRoad
    @HarborLockRoad Жыл бұрын

    Having a smaller tank chassis can definitely be worked with, the Hetzer is a great example. Perhaps the small size and good gun ( but not a giant one) would be well suited to hidden, close up ambush . Unfortunately, its not always possible to choose when to fight.. so, all is compromise.

  • @Norrikan
    @Norrikan2 жыл бұрын

    The thought of going up against either a Tiger or an IS in one of these is horrifying.

  • @richardque4952

    @richardque4952

    Жыл бұрын

    Soviet invasion of manchuko in 45 deployed is3 heavy tank against the japanese light tank.this is worse example of over match

  • @francescoguzzetta
    @francescoguzzetta2 жыл бұрын

    The il-2 hit by AA fire at 0:44 is epic

  • @danielpadilla7601
    @danielpadilla76012 жыл бұрын

    I'm definitely buying that plush ☺

  • @rich7787
    @rich77872 жыл бұрын

    Great vid!

  • @MonkeyJedi99
    @MonkeyJedi992 жыл бұрын

    That orphaned turret looks normal, until you realize that one of the things on top of it is a normal-sized helmet! That tank must have been so cramped the crew had to climb out to change their mind.

  • @ramirvelrio2278
    @ramirvelrio22782 жыл бұрын

    Amazing video!, really well explained and interesting. I wanted to ask if you could possibly make a video about the German - Mexican tank HWK 30, since it's not really well known and for what I have seen it's like a sort of upgrade on the Spähpanzer Ru 251 made especifically for the sell and production on Mexico but got cancelled due to "External pressure" by other country. Please consider it, would be really interesting to watch.

  • @OffGridInvestor

    @OffGridInvestor

    2 жыл бұрын

    "External pressure by other country"...... no need to question WHO that was....

  • @thhe_mexicanplayer5838

    @thhe_mexicanplayer5838

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@OffGridInvestor yeah lol

  • @Frosty_tha_Snowman
    @Frosty_tha_Snowman2 жыл бұрын

    Gotta say.. I'd love to see a video about the Sherman workhorse variants. They used them for plows, made landmine sweeper guards to put on them, mounted rocket launchers on the turrets, all kinds of crazy stuff. The Sherman is such a wonderfully simple tank..

  • @Frosty_tha_Snowman

    @Frosty_tha_Snowman

    2 жыл бұрын

    The m74 Sherman, and the Sherman Calliope are both good examples of what I'm taking about

  • @cyril3248
    @cyril32482 жыл бұрын

    For anyone wondering, before calling the original R35 a bad tank, it was designed as an "infantry support tank". This means it doesn't need to be much faster than infantry, it is supposed to fight light tank/artillery at most, it doesn't much more autonomy than infantry and so on. It answers well to bad constraints so the tank isn't really the issue. Also an reassembled French R35 is at the France 40 Véhicules museum (in France).

  • @user-tj9vp8re4d

    @user-tj9vp8re4d

    2 жыл бұрын

    no r 35 is just outdated shit tank

  • @ghostplays2766

    @ghostplays2766

    2 жыл бұрын

    Exactly. People can't understand that. At its time, it was a good support tank. But by the time WWII started, it was too undergunned.

  • @ineednochannelyoutube5384

    @ineednochannelyoutube5384

    2 жыл бұрын

    It wasnt even a good support tank. Partly because that doctrinal role is insane and impossible, but also because it lacked the situational awareness to effectively pursue an assault, lacked the destructive power to dislodge entrenched infantry, lacked the speed to exploit a breakthrough, and lacked any potential for future upgrades. If you must have an infantry tank you are better off with a matilda 2, or panzer 4.

  • @cyril3248

    @cyril3248

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ineednochannelyoutube5384 The R35 would sure have been much better with a 2 crew member turret. It lacked speed because it had to advance with infantry. But yeah making it bigger to later fit more inside would have been a major improvement. And the two tanks you talk about are not infantry support tank and the first panzer4 weren't that good.

  • @ineednochannelyoutube5384

    @ineednochannelyoutube5384

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@cyril3248 The first panzer 4 was a mobile howitzer designed to move heavy guns up with infantry in the assault. It ended up being used in tank divisions, yes, but as designed it was an infantry tank. The matilda 2 was both designed and used as an infantry tank, so I dont see the argument.

  • @peteroneill5426
    @peteroneill54262 жыл бұрын

    I'd love to work on the mad gaming/sporting/mad useless facts about Ireland/history videos that have been floating around inside my head, but like you said, I just don't have the ability to edit and upload them! So that's what I'd use Filmora for!

  • @BigboiiTone
    @BigboiiTone2 жыл бұрын

    Since I first watched this video, I played France quite a bit. I'm now at 3.3 for the nation and was actually surprised at how much fun I had at low tier. In particular the AMD armoured car and CCWK bofors 20mm truck were favourites. I was really disappointed with the Bis. The armor can take some light hits but still gets penned by any serious firepower, while the primary gun seems to be extremely inaccurate unless at point blank range. However at that point the enemy has circled you and blasted you 3 times. Now I'm just using their lend lease Shermans.

  • @sirwolfnsuch
    @sirwolfnsuch2 жыл бұрын

    When a villain lives long enough to see itself become the hero

  • @williambenedictalava2634
    @williambenedictalava26342 жыл бұрын

    That French gal sure is kicking till the end. Splendid.