This has to be one of the darker episodes. You gotta admit the Destroyer’s realization that he was misled by Gabrielle and pitiful reaction to accidentally killing his own mother was heartbreaking.

I teared up when I heard him say, "Momma, no! Momma!"

@stephaniefaypage8028

3 жыл бұрын

Me too

@tsrav5

3 жыл бұрын

Just go watch the video of Will Smith screaming "Momma No!", then you'll feel better.

i never thought id feel so bad for Hopes child. poor confused misguided baby

@stephaniefaypage8028

3 жыл бұрын

Me too

@audreyroberts2214

Жыл бұрын

@@stephaniefaypage8028

We really underestimated the things Gabrielle went through. To watch your child and grandchild die in front of you, terrifying.

@senoritard5841

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@jameslyon2338

3 жыл бұрын

She would have avoided it all had she listened to Xena in the first place, js

@cynthiamariagutierrez2942

3 жыл бұрын

@@jameslyon2338 maybe its not that easy to kill your own child.

@jameslyon2338

3 жыл бұрын

@@cynthiamariagutierrez2942 which would be valid were it a child. only an idiot would thinking getting raped by demon fire, giving birth in 3 days and the demons wanting to protect the baby would amount to having a perfectly normal innocent human child. Gabrielle is deluded and should have listened to Xena and killed Hope when they knew she was killing people as a toddler.

@cynthiamariagutierrez2942

3 жыл бұрын

@@jameslyon2338 i don't know if its stupid: there's something called stockholm syndrome where you end up bonding with someone who kidnapped/abuse you.

The destroyer just wanted to be loved by his mom!!

@stephaniefaypage8028

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I agree with you

Renee o'Connor is a great actress, and this scene is awesome!

@volb9817

Жыл бұрын

Yes! Really loved her acting here!

Gabrielle watching her daughter and her grandson die ..She was so divided .She wanted to reach out to them both 😢

I feel so bad for him. You can hear him say momma no.

@beckywalters2

4 жыл бұрын

he may have been a monster a demon etc but he just wanted his mommas love

@tsrav5

3 жыл бұрын

Just go watch the video of Will Smith screaming "Momma No!", then you'll feel better.

@paulinetayloe9988

10 ай бұрын

Same here

@paulinetayloe9988

10 ай бұрын

That just shows how misguided people are because they don’t understand and how they act if your different

@shoshanamichaelia9739

8 ай бұрын

Only Man.dress up in a costume and make up hahaha

Aw, good job by Renee in playing Hope/Gabrielle. Played both parts well.

Aaaaaaaw, when the butt-ugly alien beast creature starts crying for his mama though.... 😔😭

I was so sad at the end of this I was surprised to feel compassion for the enemy

@stephaniefaypage8028

4 жыл бұрын

Same

Is that bad of me to think this is terribly sad? The Destoyer had the capacity of an infant, he just searched for his mother's love, he didn't understand this crap about Dehak or whatever. With taming, he could become maybe less violent. Such a waste. Dude, Hope was not good at this whole parenting gig, was she. In fact, she was really bad at it. Yet she kept bitching about Gabrielle being a terrible mom. Talk about hypocricy.

@zeokingsilver

4 жыл бұрын

I felt the same

@xxlCortez

4 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure he could be tamed. He was pretty much like Hope with killer nature.

@Sparky12355

3 жыл бұрын

I agree

@Mark-pl3bv

2 жыл бұрын

Hope clearly cared about him but couldn't handle affection. She'd never known it. Hugging her child while they were dying was a last accusation towards Gabrielle: "see how I love him, the way you never loved me". Hope was born with the instincts of a killer, and the only influences around her, her entire life, were enabling these instincts. I do believe it would have been different if Xena and Gabrielle had raised Hope: she clearly longed for her mother's love.

@Mehandes13

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mark-pl3bv I agree she was born with a killer instinct, but to tell she never knew true affection is inaccurate. Don't remember which and where, but I'm pretty sure it was said somewhere that she was shortly adopted. I mean, someone did take pitty on her enough to feed and shelter her. Either she grew up too fast or she killed her 'parents' is unclear. Would it be different to grow up with Gabrielle and Hope? interesting question, but I think the answer is no. I tend to compare hope to Samara from 'The Ring'. One parent (Anna Morgan) is compassionate, while the other (Richard Moran) wanted to just get rid of her and her satanic tendencies. Much like Xena and Gabrielle. At the end of the day, no matter who tried helping her, the inner nature of a killer was the one which took over.

Anyone else cry? A son gets a loving touch and is rejected. Then his confusion as he strikes back against her and realizes there's two.

@stephaniefaypage8028

3 жыл бұрын

Me too

@ginay8800

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, great scene!

One of the best written scenes of the series. The pain in The Destroyers voice and face. It was so moving. This was sort of a clunky way to wrap up the Dahawk story line and before sending it over to Hercules, which I always resented, but this was such an epic episode with great twists, thrills, chills and superb acting all around! It's seriously iconic and extremely memorable for the fans.

@Mhtsos_Bardas

4 жыл бұрын

@Lee Brown Personally I loved that it was Hercules who dealt with Dahak himself. Hercules did say he wanted to deal with the evil that sent Callisto back in time and besides that Xena wouldn't stand a chance against Dahak so Hercules would have been involved inevitably. Also the Dahak storyline was so much better in Hercules than in Xena in my opinion.

@Mhtsos_Bardas

4 жыл бұрын

@Lee Brown I agree with you that it should end with Xena and Gabrielle, as it started. However, Dahak wasn't just a Pagan God like Ares, he was leagues above those. Remember that even the likes of Zeus, Hera and the Titans feared Dahak. Xena struggled with both Hope and the Destroyer and only defeated them by tricking them, even Krafstar gave her a hard time. There's nothing Xena could have done against Dahak, this was a fight that only Hercules could win. Besides that Hercules had a score to settle with Dahak after the events of "Armageddon Now". Fan Fact though, Xena and Gabrielle were meant to return in "Let There Be Light" to help Hercules exorcise Dahak from Iolaus but they were scrapped in favor of Nebula and Morrigan.

@Nepthu

4 жыл бұрын

@@Mhtsos_Bardas I think the creators missed a perfect opportunity for Xena and Hercules to face Dahak together. Upon retrospect, the shows should have had MORE crossovers--maybe one each season--it's too bad they missed this opportunity. I like this episode but it seemed like it should have been a two episodes given the importance of Hope to the series.

@Mhtsos_Bardas

4 жыл бұрын

@@Nepthu Yep, totally. I'm not sure about this but I've seen somewhere on the internet that Kevin Sorbo was the one who didn't want many crossovers. I don't know if it's true but they that Sorbo was a little bitter about Xena having better ratings than Hercules.

@xenondoro8573

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it got so confusing for us who didn't watch Hercules. All these things with Callisto and then the biggest continuing storyline of the show given to another show. Seemed like a desperate attempt to raise Hercules' ratings.

his cry for his mom broke my heart

i did cry a bit when the destroyer killed hope. he was a monster but he was just a baby who loved his mother. this was a tough episode to watch.

@stephaniefaypage8028

3 жыл бұрын

Me too

Shut I was ok until I heard him say “Momma” that is so sad.

Wow! I can't believe that renee o' connor isn't as big as she is supposed to be. I really loved her acting and her range in this episode. It was like two different actresses playing the part.. please renee! , do more films. ❤❤❤❤

This was the one time you couldn’t cheer when Xena won.... so sad

Goodbye to Hope! one of the best villains in xena

Hope may have been evil but she loved her son and even consoled him after he struck her by patting his back

@beauelwell7614

3 жыл бұрын

She used her son as a vessel she hugged him only cause she dead

@malindachantelle4706

3 жыл бұрын

@@beauelwell7614 well we can agree to disagree. I feel she loved him and she does have some loving qualities in her from her mother Gabrielle.

@NyghtDarkwatch

3 жыл бұрын

Er she was holding on as she died.

@beauelwell7614

3 жыл бұрын

@@malindachantelle4706 can definitely see ur point of view though but I think hope was evil to her core and was using her son as it was implied she wanted to create an army of these creatures

@afrimsedattairi5307

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly though it was weird as hell when hope thought her son was wounded by xena she tried to check for a wound and her own son tried to kiss her/make a move on her in the cave

This scene broke my heart . He was just a baby who wanted his mother’s love and did as she asked . It was so sad 😞 if i could have chosen i would have had him live and gabrielle being his grandmother working with him to make him gentle and good but she let xena kill him she didn’t care and that sucked. but it’s also fair to say they didn’t know he was child like and loving in his mind they only saw what hope made him do. it’s a tragedy

Gabrielle lost her daughter and grandson at the same time! truly sad

That had me in tears I felt for him and when lucy and renee was talking about this on KZread they said they cried after filming that scene.

@myra1683

3 жыл бұрын

where did you see that talking?

@markcressey8808

3 жыл бұрын

A xena convention on KZread xx

@myra1683

3 жыл бұрын

@@markcressey8808 thank you

@myra1683

3 жыл бұрын

which one? there is so many of them)))

@markcressey8808

3 жыл бұрын

@@myra1683 xena convention 2011.

I remember being a kid when this aired I watched this episode I so loved Hope and her story line but when she has this baby I was like "umm hes a baby by Ares? He doesnt look like either of them yet I can hear him say momma somehow" even as a kid I knew the destroyer was bad but I still felt bad for him because he was more than capable of Love and thats what killed him Love

I felt so bad for the poor thing when Xena just stabbed him in the back and then you killed his own mother. I mean I know it had to be done but I don’t know it just felt kinda heartless. So sad

There's actually an incredible poignancy and sadness to this scene - not only for Gabrielle witnessing it but for the Destroyer and Hope too. Renee's performance as Hope was so good because you sensed that deep down she really wanted her mother to love her.

aww, this is heartbreaking, he killed his own mama and knows it! i am bawling now

Justice for Solan's death.

@zeokingsilver

3 жыл бұрын

yes

I tear up everytime I watch this part. Sad for the destroyer, not hope

@stephaniefaypage8028

3 жыл бұрын

Me too

Hope deserved it for what she did to Xena's kid tho I felt bad for her son.

@stephaniefaypage8028

4 жыл бұрын

I agree and same

It pisses me off that Xena stopped Gabrielle from at least going over to them to comfort them. 😔😤😤

@stephaniefaypage8028

3 жыл бұрын

Me too

@xg7022

3 жыл бұрын

Xena was protecting Gabrielle making sure they died incase they attacked her Hope survived being poisoned and she survived falling into that hole with the fire so Xena wasn't taking any chances

@DonnaBrooks

3 жыл бұрын

​@@stephaniefaypage8028 What X G said. I wouldn't have let Gabrielle go near them until I was certain they were dead. And, as X G pointed out, Gabrielle had attempted to kill Hope twice and somehow Hope survived (although I never understood HOW!).

@DonnaBrooks

3 жыл бұрын

As I told Stephanie in this thread, I wouldn't have let Gabrielle go near them until I was certain they were dead. As X G pointed out, Gabrielle had attempted to kill Hope twice and somehow Hope survived (although I never understood HOW she survived!)

@ThePaganSun

3 жыл бұрын

@@DonnaBrooks @Donna Brooks Maybe but they were her family. I don't think Xena would've appreciated it if their roles were reversed and Gabrielle tried to keep her from comforting her dying son even if he had been evil.

Is that a chupacabra? lol

@Mhtsos_Bardas

4 жыл бұрын

It does look like a Chupacabra and actually did feel on goat blood like a Chupacabra before Xena arrived in Potidea. Perhaps it is based on the Chupacabra.

The ending she deserved.. This scenes always makes me shiver to my core! I miss the series so bad, i'll always cry for one final movie but sadly won't ever happen! Xena and Gabrielle made my childhood possible! ❤️🔥

My favorite episode of Xena it reminded me of the film Pumpkinhead.

@coricoo_247

4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely! The Destroyer and Grindle were the BEST monsters in the whole series!

Hope is also Gabrielle's daughter so. Technically her grandson killed her

Even though Hope was accidentally killed by her own son. Hope looked to her mother ( Gabrielle) for not wanting to die. Gabrielle did love her daughter. But Hope was Goddess of evil. 🖤

The Destroyer has the mind and emotions of a small child, he's very immature. His body grew to adulthood, but his mind didn't. He's an evil, vicious killer and savage beast, but he does love his mom very much. He did have to be stopped, innocent people were being killed and hurt.

@missyrose2154

4 жыл бұрын

STEVE P did he tho? he was only a viscous killer because his mother pushed him to be that way. Given his child like mind I think if his grandmother could have worked with him with Xenas help he could have been turned into a force for good.

For a part god, part super god, the destroyer went down rather easily.

@Trisof88

3 жыл бұрын

Xena is a demigod with expansive wits. They just didn't say it

And so ends the Evil legacy of Dahak.

Jeez the music in this👏👏👏👏

You really have to feel bad for the creature, poor baby

I almost cried at this!!!

I still had no idea how the destroyer looked like that, I mean, Hope looks like her mother and Ares is a good look guy so like, how? XD

Honestly, I nevee thought I'd say this (I don't wanna sound cold) but serves her right. Hope I mean. Whoa. I'm gonna get a lotta hate. Nvm

I love d this show so much growing up

The Destroyers cry is so, so sad!

I felt soory for the destroyer alsohe even said mama

Huh, I remember the Destroyer being a lot bigger looking. Like those stilt werewolf costumes.

How rhotic that Xena kills Gabrielle grandson her grandson kill his mother hope & Gabrielle watches it daughter & grandson died. Is 😮😯😦/😢😭😢😭.

That was so sad! 😢

Evil goddess or no how did that pointy freak come out of hope

I feel SO sorry for the lil guy spikes and all “Mommmaaaaaaaa”

Watching her daughter n grandson die tragic

Aw man, this scene is making me cry Why’d they have to make it so sad?

It must've been numbing for Gabrielle seeing both her daughter and her grandson die

Kind of interesting as the destroyer is Gabbys grandchild..

@stephaniefaypage8028

4 жыл бұрын

I agreed

@myra1683

3 жыл бұрын

and so tragic...

I realize they're the bad guys, but I may need to watch the whole Hope saga (for better context) to not be so mad at Gabriel after she tricked him into murdering his mother.

Never liked Hope. It was a relief when the character was no more.

@sdlock83

4 жыл бұрын

I hated the fact that she's played by the same person that played Gabrielle.

@jessieg3579

4 жыл бұрын

@@sdlock83 I thought Renee did a good job but what I didn't like was splitting her as bad Gabrielle =Hope and good Gabrielle = original so they could have innocent pure soul Gabs after that ark. I found it sort of dissapointing not letting her grow. Though I do love Bitter Suite where they close that ark.

@JiraiyaSama86

4 жыл бұрын

Jessie Guadarrama Hope could have been more interesting. It was clear that part of her character was human in the way she wanted Gabrielle’s love, and how she was curious about how Gabrielle was loved by everyone. While she failed miserably, she did love her child. If she was rewritten, she could have been a good case of nature vs nurture. Unfortunately that avenue was closed off twice. Once when Gabrielle had to send her away as a baby, and then when Gabrielle had to poison her. She never got the chance to nurture her free will. Part of free will is the simple decision of yes and no. While there was no guarantee that Gabrielle could sway her, it would have been nice to see that there was a chance.

@sdlock83

4 жыл бұрын

@@jessieg3579 It wouldn't have been bad if they had a teenager play Hope rather than Reneé O'Connor. Hell she was already in her 30s when she played Gabrielle. Nothing wrong with having a teenage-looking daughter, even if she wasn't supernatural.

@jessieg3579

4 жыл бұрын

@@sdlock83 They had a teen actress playing Hope like a couple of episodes before this one. Gab ended poisoning her after learning that Hope killed Xena son.

I saw this as a kid n was so weirded out now it’s cool 😎

Why don't I remember this episode smh.....

how did they explain this to the village people in the morning lol

This was a sad scene

I think it would be great if they wear Evil Hope and evil Eve

I loved this episode but all the people I've shown this have absolutely HATED how it turned out in the end. 😄

@stephaniefaypage8028

4 жыл бұрын

Same

This was a painful episode for me. I know they had to die but the betrayal and heartbreak still gets to you. I always felt bad for Gabrielle cause she loved Hope and tried to change her. Gabrielle never got over that pain. But that made me respect Gabrielle even more for having the strength to do what had to be done. Edit: After that episode, I had a little anger at Xena for not letting Gabrielle have her last goodbye. Yeah Hope was evil but Gabby was still her mother.

This was very Alien Resurrection.

this reminds me of the scene from ALien :s with the white humanoid alien thing that gets sucked trough the window

Practical effects, to this day, are so creepy. lol

If I were ares I would’ve gone on Maury

I was happy when hope died. I always think, "FINALLY, that soulless, evil monster is dead! Good." Why do I say that? Because there's nothing of gabrielle in her. She needed to die.

Why was I so sad 😞?

Please upload sometime and scenes with xena and ares without a backround song

Wow

That looks like Pumpkinhead.

So sad 😭😭

I feel bad for the monster 😳

Very sad part

❤👏❤👏

Sad

What happen to hope and the destroyer bodies? Gabrielle buried them?

Well that's literally a face only a mother could love.

@constantinetranos2225

2 жыл бұрын

Εμένα μου φάνηκε περίεργο που η Ελπίδα η οποία ήταν 50% άνθρωπος ήταν αδυσώπητη από μικρό βρέφος, ενώ ο Destroyer που ήταν απειροελάχιστα γενετικά άνθρωπος ( DNA Γαβριέλλας) συμπεριφερόταν εν μέρη αρκετά ανθρώπινα...Εντάξει ήταν η μητέρα του, η Ελπίδα όμως συγκριτικά δεν έδειχνε να αγαπάει την Γαβριέλλα αλλά εκμεταλλευόταν την μητρική αγάπη για να προωθήσει το σχέδιο του Dahak...

@Mhtsos_Bardas

2 жыл бұрын

@@constantinetranos2225 Εμένα πάλι μου φάνηκε περίεργο που χρειάστηκε η Ελπίδα να σκοτώσει τον Σολαν για να ψιλιαστει η Γαβριέλλα ότι το παιδί της είναι τέρας.

@constantinetranos2225

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mhtsos_Bardas Θα προτιμούσα η Καλλιστό να σκότωνε απευθείας τον Σόλαν...

I thought he was the chuppa cabra

Ahloa I’m shanebearddj omg

Tough girl until she dies by shoulder stab.

He just were a child.

If ares was the father did he secretly like gabby also lol

@slayerwytch2032

4 жыл бұрын

Nicholas Cuccaro in one of the last episodes he admitted that he had a thing for both of them

@Mhtsos_Bardas

3 жыл бұрын

@@slayerwytch2032 Ares might have thought that Gabrielle is hot but he didn't like her personality.

Ares sun

What do you do after something like this, burn the bodies? Or bury the two.

😔😔😔😢

Technically that's Gabrielles grandson

God this reminds me of Alien Resurrection

Anyone get the Grendel vibe from this like from Beowulf? Just a thought

@SlasherIncorporated

3 жыл бұрын

At the time, no. But looking back on it now, yes, absolutely. Kinda interesting.

boy they really hate offspirng in the series.

Am I the only one who did NOT feel bad for Hope or The Destroyer?

They couldve turned hope into a more complex character..not just one dimensional evil . She was after all Gabrielles daughter

I feel bad for him, why would they do that to him

@zeokingsilver

4 жыл бұрын

guess they felt he to dangerous to let be

@missyrose2154

4 жыл бұрын

because they didn’t know the truth that he was child like and loving in his mind they only saw what hope pushed him to be . id like to think if they had know the truth they would have tried to save him and help him be good

@zeokingsilver

4 жыл бұрын

@@missyrose2154 possibly yes I know Hercules would have

@Mhtsos_Bardas

4 жыл бұрын

For the same reason he's called the Destroyer.

@SlasherIncorporated

3 жыл бұрын

He was a monster born from evil that was killing people. He was called "The Destroyer" for a reason.

Yoooo, xena was this dark?

@SlasherIncorporated

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. The show had a mix of funny, light-hearted episodes and serious, dark ones. Do you remember it just being silly all the time?

Gabriel es rubia de bote

Ouch giving birth to that