Due was a step back. This is what the Due should have been. This is progress

@japd7897

2 жыл бұрын

Due were those with 30m WR?.

@n.h187

Жыл бұрын

@@japd7897 yh

@adamcarter699

Жыл бұрын

@JAPD yes but it's designed as a dress watch, hence the reduced case depth- a standard panerai looks ridiculous with a suit

@jenan9016

9 ай бұрын

I think Due is perfect for skinnier people and women as it is lighter and has some more feminine models. They are very pretty on women's wrists, and unique, of course.

@JsBlazIN

Ай бұрын

The due is beautiful

Good on Panerai for (finally!) addressing the size issues many of us have without drastically affecting water resistance. Nevertheless, for a dive watch company and at that price, 100 meters is still a bit of a misstep imho. Let’s hope they can eventually raise the bar to 300 meters. Thanks for the vid, really appreciate your content.

@SinnerAndSaint

2 жыл бұрын

Especially as it's not a technical marvel to do so anymore. There is one brand that proved that impressively: Nomos. It's a Club Campus on 37mm (!) with an actual automatic Inhouse movement, sapphire caseback, non-screw-down crown and an overall case thinness of under 9mm (!). And this watch has an impressive water resistance of 200m! So c'mon, I can't hear anymore all the excuses of many brands that it's hard to get slim, small or non-screw-down crown watches more water resistant than 30m. It's just a cheap excuse. That said, 100m for those 40mm PAM's is totally enough for me as you can do pretty much every water sports activity if you want to.

@mt24Carson

2 жыл бұрын

Well stated. I will stick to the 48 w/300m wr. Let me know when Panerai can up its game to the likes of Helson, Helm, and others (yes that's an intentionally cheeky comment). Thanks T&T for the video.

@drkesrf

2 жыл бұрын

I own this watch. As much as I wish it was 200 or 300M, the 100 is more than suitable for 99.9% of actual use. In addition, the 44m of this same watch is 300M

@dinamiena6186

2 жыл бұрын

For most of people wearing this watch , ain’t pools that deep 😂

Love this collection - great size with retention of all the hallmark aesthetics we've come to know and love from the Panerai Luminor range.....Keep 'em coming T&T!!

Cheers guys. Nice review. Impressive how they always manage to give their watches a fresh look, but still retain their DNA. Looking forward to seeing what they have in store for the Radiomir series (which happens to be what I'm wearing at this very moment).

They've nailed it, at last a great looking 40mm. Wearing my Sinn 556 A

Panerai is one of the legends, the iconic design is outstanding. This size variant I assume and hope will be snatched up, but I feel like Panerai never quite capitalise on their reputation and marketing. Incredible offering still, lovely pieces.

Wearing the Pam 00683, picked it up 3 weeks ago, absolutely love it. I think the 40mm size and keeping 100m water resistance is a winning combo. Having a smaller 6.5 inch wrist myself I've stayed away from Panerai for many years. I really think it opens it up to a wider audience, as long as they keep making their beefy larger watches they should be seeing more sales.

@atl3630

Жыл бұрын

The Pam 683 is 42mm.

I own this watch and absolutely love it. My favorite part is the case shape. It’s the best case on any watch that exists in my opinion. That alone made me overlook the 100M (I really wish it was 200+) and the questionable “in-house” term (I’ve heard it’s ETA but modified). I wear this watch with pride while also recognizing it’s flaws.

Love this compromise! The size seems to be perfect for the average wrist. And 100m water resistant is enough for a sports watch. I would like to see a version without the date and second dial as well.

The white dial is gorgeous.

I have the 40mm Quaranta in green - limited run of 500pcs. To me it is the perfect way to enjoy the brand, on dressy occasions, where a 44mm (or typically larger) is a little too much, I love it. It has all the Panerai DNA that we love, in a slimmer silhouette.

I like Panerai and I like this new line / size. I’m currently wearing a medium Santos de Cartier but will be switching out to a rose gold Kudoke 2 soon.

On vacation for a travel baseball tournament…wearing my explorer 214270 currently. But when on the field - I wear my pam 00795 with team color strap. Love panerais and happy they came out with 40mm to expand their reach in the market.

@steenguldbrand5713

2 ай бұрын

If you cant wear a real Panerai 44 or 47mm - then dont.

Never been a huge fan due to their oversized dimensions, but these models are making me take another look at the brand. Great review gentlemen.

I love the new size, have to check one out , wearing my sea master 300m.

As a Paneristi myself, I would call this sizing a win. I have been shrinking my own size preference a little since I got into watches 7 years ago. Though for me that means going from 47mm down to 44mm. I doubt my wrists and overall height and frame would lend itself to a 40mm PAM. Though I'm glad that it opens the door for people who would not otherwise buy the larger sizes. I'm actually thinking of getting a white dial 40mm for the girlfriend. I have the 1314 in 44mm, so it would be fun to match Panerai some days.

Will wait for one of these to pop up second hand. Wearing a Timex Q GMT on my 16.5cm wrist

I had several Panerai watches in the early 2000's, but as I continued my watch journey, began to prefer smaller sizes and sold my Panerai watches. Fast forward to this year, I tried this new quaranta case, and it was perfect. I ended up purchasing the green limited quaranta model (1304), and it became my most worn watch this summer. Perfect proportions for me, more than adequate water resistance, and extremely accurate movement..a home run. Thanks for the content.

@daniel_anthony_k

2 ай бұрын

I'm thinking about buying the 1304 and was curious what your thoughts were on it? Would you purchase it again today?

@MrSaadmubarak

2 ай бұрын

@@daniel_anthony_k great watch, would still buy it. Didn't like the green alligator strap, but on a green nato or the brown leather strap, I really enjoyed it

@daniel_anthony_k

2 ай бұрын

@@MrSaadmubarak Thank you! I'm probably going to get it this week and was a little nervous how it would wear so I wanted to ask someone first. Thanks for getting back to me.

@MrSaadmubarak

2 ай бұрын

@@daniel_anthony_k you're welcome. If your wrist is anywhere near avg, this wears great.

Wearing the JLC Polaris Mariner Date. These Panerai look great!

wearing my new hesalite speedy! love that panerai are going smaller!

Those are perfectly fine

just bought the 40 mm white dial. loving it. bit concerned about the quick release straps, seems a bit unstable.

I went to the Panerai boutique in Houston and it was my first experience with Panerai hands on. The experience was incredible! I understand the timepieces are large in numbers, but they wear very well on the wrist. 42mm fit very well and wore as good if not better than my Omega SMP at 42mm. Panerai is definitely on my to buy list sometime in the future. Thanks for the video! 👍🏾

The one with the blue dial is gorgeous.

Great video. Wearing a true Italian Diver today - Anononimo Millemetri Drass!

I just watched your video and I really enjoyed it! Your video was well-made, informative, and entertaining. I especially liked the way you explained the topic in a clear and concise way. I also appreciate the way you included relevant details in your video. Overall, I thought your video was excellent! I would definitely recommend it to others who are interested in learning more about the topic. Thanks for creating such a great video! Sincerely. PS: I outsourced this feedback to AI

@Timeandtidewatches

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Wall-E

Is the only proportional difference the thickness? In the past the 40’s never had the wafer dial. So glad that’s been rectified. Looking forward to getting a blue dial with a green alligator strap. Many years ago a guy in Hawaii was selling his blue dial 44 In titanium with a green alligator strap and I really flipped for it but it was too big. Hopefully Panerai will get around to issuing a titanium Quaranta too. I really like the duller gray case.

A great move from Panerai. The design language easily transfers - I'd say better than with the mid-size (42-45mm!) variants. I'll hold my cash until they make a quarter arabic, no date. I hope this frees up the Due to be a 100m waterproof 36-38mm version - I'm convinced it would sell to the smaller wristed and women - cool dressy or sports appropriate. Also, surely the 40mm (and smaller) should transfer to the Radiomir? Yeah, the Luminor is the more obvious design, but I'm sure the crown bulk/design/comfort is polarising and puts a lot off.

A wise move for Panerai, shrinking the size while keeping it swimming worthy, the Due collection should now focus on making

I’m wearing my konstantin chaykin joker today……I always wanted the pam 1117 or 1118, what do you think of it ?

I personally feel 42 is the best size. Wearing my IWC Top Gun Blue Angles

I'd like them a lot more without a date (like the Luminor Luna Rossa, but in 40mm).

what's the difference between the 01270 and 01370? I tried on the 01270 yesterday when I had no intention son doing so and I really liked it, Blue strap and dial is a nice combo too

I got the black one and I wish I went for the blue 😭 I wear it maybe once every 2 months

A Panerai with 30 meter depth rating sounded like a 90 horsepower Ferrari. This new 40 mm baby is a step in the right direction, even if 100 meters, if more than sufficient IRL, doesn’t sound impressive when many brands without diving credentials achieve the same with push-pull crowns and a set of good gaskets. As a faithful member of #whitedialcrew, quite like the ivory one, but I will not rush to buy one yet.

is the case back screw down or snap on?

The white quaranta 1271 is on my list as my futur dress watch. Cheers Oni

@drkesrf

2 жыл бұрын

I own the 1271 and can confirm it will dress up nicely on the black leather strap.

I’m wearing a Wempe Iron walker blue… and yes I build steel infrastructure!! This feels like it was for carved out of one piece of metal

You can really see the disproportion of the crown protection to the watch.

The Due was actually a fantastic marketing move by Panerai! Panerai is an iconic design with proportions that aren’t ideal for everyone. The Due is an amazing dress watch. Has nobody asked why make 100m Q and put a leather strap on it instead of SS ?

What are your wrist sizes?

42mm is the sweet spot

I would be all over this if it was a Radiomir No crown guard with the wire lugs

I love Panerai as a brand and I like their style. But what I don’t get is why they can’t up the water resistance. Even with some of their smaller pieces when you compare them to some of their competitor brands they have similar sized and sometimes even slimmer smaller models that have much greater water resistance, eg a SuperOcean 42 which has like 500 m depth rating. For the size of a PAM they should be able to attain that or something similar!

Panerai is frustrating a times, but I keep on coming back to the design. Nothing like it. I've owned 3, sold 2, now just bought another one. Panerai is a brand you buy with your heart, to feed your soul. Not for everyone, but those who get it, really get it. I like it that way.

@drkesrf

2 жыл бұрын

This is spot on. There are other brands who have superior movements and are less expensive (omega really comes to mind), but damnit my heart wanted the pan.

PAM 1048 wrist model looks remarkably like Tim Mosso.

How come no mention of the PAM 00244? Supposedly a limited edition GMT

I know we can always change straps but something just doesn't look right when a diver with 300m WR comes with leather straps:(

Pam 2A on my wrist this morning

I have 2 Panerai. Please evergreen problemȘ tell us the story about the Brooklyn Bridge Panerai story and the P 9200 story plus the stamped bridge high end 70.000 dollars high end garbages?? Only after clarifying these issues the name and badge will regain their shine

Is it limited production as it says xxxx/2000 on the back?

Is it limited edition?

Got mine 2 weeks ago. I absolutely love my Quaranta (blue)! It wears so well. While I feel it should be a bit cheaper, it is just a great piece for my 16.5 cm wrist.

@drkesrf

2 жыл бұрын

I own this as well and also wish it was a bit cheaper. I was debating between this and the omega seamaster 300M which is $2k less. While the omega is technically superior and less expensive, panerai got me with the case shape and aura. $5-6k would have been a more fair price but hey, we still love it.

@atthelord

2 жыл бұрын

@@drkesrf yeah I see what you mean. The case shape really did it for me. It’s so different! Having said that, I own an older SMPc300 and I love that a fair bit too.

@italnando

Жыл бұрын

@@drkesrf This is exactly where I am at now. I’m looking at this white dial Panerai or the Omega seamaster 300m white. Omega is superior in quality but I love everything about that Panerai. I’d love to hear more feedback from you!! Also, I read the crown guard clip might be too big for the 40mm. Thoughts???

38mm Tudor Royal Blue Dial.

Cute little Panerai babies. If you buy one, you better be ready to sell it at a 40% loss within a year or two or have the cash to buy something additional in the 44-47mm range. That’s just how it is with Panerai.

@adamcarter699

Жыл бұрын

Why would you be selling? You should be buying it to wear, not flip.

@ulifluhme

Жыл бұрын

@@adamcarter699 not the point. Just saying that most won't be satisfied with a 40mm Panerai long term so they either end up selling at a huge loss or buy a 44/45/47 in addition. I've seen it again and again over the years.

@adamcarter699

Жыл бұрын

@@ulifluhme why wouldn’t anyone be satisfied with a 40mm? Read what you are posting fgs, the fact that someone chose a 40 or 42mm is because the standard size with 18mm of height looks sh** when wearing a shirt or suit!

@stegeorgy60

Жыл бұрын

@@ulifluhme Agreed ….40mm meh , Panerai is about wrist presence. Hope this down sizing isn’t the future. Love the new Radiomir but for the 40mm size.

The Best

Oh my

Home run

I placed an order on a white Quaranta (PAM01271) and I actually cancelled the order. The reason? Panerais customer service is not good. One thing that has been highly debated regarding the "Quaranta" is the caseback; is it a snap-on caseback? Is it screw down caseback? It was hard to find the right answer. The customer service gave me (and a forum member) three different answers and eventually, an independent watchmaker opened the watch and confirmed that it's in fact a snap-on caseback. One might argue that many of these watches aren't going to be exposed to deep diving, which probably is true. However, a snap-on caseback is a cheaper alternative and it's fitted there for one reason: cost saving. Cost saving is of course necessary; what I do not like is the lack of transparency. Stand behind your choices a present the facts and don't let your customers fumble in the dark.

Quaranta (40) is for the WR?, Did they go from 30m WR to 40m WR?.

@Timeandtidewatches

2 жыл бұрын

Good pun but thank god no

Hopefully they slim down the 42mm

JLC Memovox GT

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Where’s the 44 submersibles?

Seems a little odd to have a dive watch at a smaller size, but as most dive watches are probably worn by desk jockeys, it would look good with a suit. But then, why would you need an elaborate crown guard?

Is it a hacking second movement?

@keithlos1497

Жыл бұрын

Not on this current first releases, but heard it is now on the new P900 versions (April 23)

@gullie9004

Жыл бұрын

@@keithlos1497 thanks,Keith!

A missed opportunity to not have 20mm lugs for this smaller case

@drkesrf

2 жыл бұрын

I own this watch and the 22m help it keep the larger watch mystique of a panerai.

I could love this watch if it weren't for the Reg. T.M. written on the guard. That bothers me to no end.

They are going in wrong direction again. Bring back old schools 44mm-47mm vibe with 300m WR!

Aaayyyoooo

Fun you buy a 300m watch with a nice leather strap … figures that you will go deep with it … My DUE is sweet and does serve the purpose of a nice watch i can wear with a suit or jeans … I will not take a shower or swing in the sea with it 😊

That 40mm hamburger is a good face but as you said, too thick and I don't like the sausage dials. This , now this 40mm is pure class and testosterone.

These would have looked better without the old fashioned date window. They should have stuck closer with the true Panerai DNA which is no date. At 40mm and still relatively thick, there is also no excuse (other than cost cutting) for not providing at least 20 bar of water resistance. Sadly, this watch is a fail.

@drkesrf

2 жыл бұрын

Due to the 1950 case, the curve underneath make it more wearable than the measurement suggests.

They've botched it again. The issue with the 048 and 244 is thickness, not size. The issue with the due was water resistance, not size. They hit this out of the park YEARS ago with the 512 and 574 line and somehow have totally failed to capitalize on those truly great pieces.

The quality has degraded so much for Panerai. They cheapened the P9010. No more hacking and no more finishing. Horrible quality control and service

I used to be a fan of Panerai and almost pulled the trigger on this one. Then I read an article on Perezcope about Panerai perpetually downgrading. I am no longer a fan now.

@drkesrf

2 жыл бұрын

I own this watch and love the look, but I agree the brand is heading downwards. Probably won’t buy another one unless it’s a used older one with the better WR

Hacking seconds?

Talk to me when they add hacking to the so called in house movement. I'll stick to my 177

Is it only me in 2024 or am getting bored of small elegant watches and looking for watches that go well with my arms size ..

Small Panerai don't have good resell value.

These watches have a driven, pressure-fit caseback that looks like a screwed back (to fool people?). This should be addressed in a review. In addition, the P.900 is a heavily downgraded Baume & Mercier “Baumatic” without hacking seconds and zero decoration. Your “softball” review is no service to the watch community, unfortunately.

Too small for me!

@alliea3327

Жыл бұрын

buy the 44

100 m??? Fake tool watch for fake people.