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Probably didn't help that the Honda was down to 9% when you raced, cars should be fully charged again before racing to be fair to them both.

9% battery hot lap what's wrong with you lot

@danam0228

Жыл бұрын

I know right? It goes on battery saver mode doesn't it? Like stupid phones?

@carlmarkwyatt

Жыл бұрын

You'd be faster in a conventional car with a partially full tank as it keeps the weight down.... Guess it's the same with EVs ;⁠-⁠)

@BHBeckenbauer

Жыл бұрын

This show is so frustrating. They need presenters who know about EVs

@callumbriggs3372

Жыл бұрын

Could not agree more at least make sure it has enough battery to let the motor at least have enough food to use. 9% is nothing to a battery

@Adamlllllllllllljjjljljjjjj

Жыл бұрын

@@carlmarkwyatt Haha, please tell me your being sarcastic😂😂

I'm a hatchback lover. I hope the weight comes down eventually for these mini tanks. I especially love the look of the Honda.

@clarksonoceallachain8536

Жыл бұрын

Just get a kei car

Tell me you went into this review having already made your mind up without telling me.

Still prefer my e-208 GT. I didn't buy it for the track, and the interior is premium. I find the acceleration for me is plenty for nipping in and out of roundabouts with confidence.

@XgiannettoX

10 ай бұрын

i got one on a subscription model, i pay 368 euros for all but for charging

@bubbsboy

8 ай бұрын

yea i love mine

One thing he didn’t mention is that the Honda has double wishbone rear suspension which is wildly over engineered for a city car

@toyotaprius79

Жыл бұрын

Over engineered, overly focused on profit and competing upmarket

@davidcoveney

Жыл бұрын

McPherson strut, which is still unusual in such a car but it works well and feels great to drive.

Honda are asking a few grand too much at least. The Range is also poor.

I think the small electric cars really miss the point. It could be affordable but no, there has to be 20 screens, camera mirros and tech you don't need.

@davidperry7128

9 ай бұрын

Cameras and mirrors may not be needed for you but reversing assistance etc is very useful for those people with reduced capabilities due to age or disability. The point is to reduce pollution, if you want to do that without the extra cost get a lower spec, a budget brand or walk/cycle.

so a guy who doesnt know how to set up his seating position complains about cars used for racing when they are not racing cars. what a totally irrelevant test.

Love the look inside and out of the Honda e

9% ?! why not one with 100% and another with 0% then?

The Peugeot you have was the non-facelift model, the new model has a different gearbox ratio and other changes...

@frankseverijnen859

Жыл бұрын

This is the electric model and thus has no gearbox. There will be a 156hp electric model this year though, but I'm not sure if there's a lot on the roads as of yet.

@make4all2000

Жыл бұрын

@@frankseverijnen859 seriously? and that single-speed transmission is also called a gearbox, only it has only one ratio

@frankseverijnen859

Жыл бұрын

@@make4all2000 Fair enough! Yes, the 156hp model will only be in the GT spec. I ordered mine and it will probably be delivered in September, maybe even a bit sooner!

@make4all2000

Жыл бұрын

@@frankseverijnen859 Nice! What size battery?

@frankseverijnen859

Жыл бұрын

@@make4all2000 I believe it's a 51kwh battery, so not that much larger. But due to the more efficient engine the net capacity is 46kwh off the top of my head. The effective range is increased to 400km wltp.

Reading this comment section, where have some people got the idea from that Hondas are super premium cars? Laughable.

It's just my personal opinion and preference but I think the Honda is really ugly, especially the stupidly massive black flap at the front.

They’re great but I don’t think either will be replacing my swift sport anytime soon

@davidperry7128

9 ай бұрын

Keep polluting!

Try the corsa e gs line if you prefer a more conventional interior and steering wheel than the quirky e208….

Looking forward to watching your stand up on Netflix

I don’t see the point in this test, as both are town cars not track cars 👎🏼

I honestly think this review is incredibly biased. Not just in the reviewer but also in the comments. Just because it has a Honda badge does NOT make it a better car automatically. A pathetic range, overpriced pricetag and that really pointless full screen interior is just ridiculous. Double wishbone or not, Honda or not, there is no point recommending the Honda over the 208. And there is certainly no point comparing the e208 to the 205!

@bubbsboy

Ай бұрын

i have an e208 and i think its great round town, quick up to 50-60. You don't need to be doing 75 on a side road

Love the cockpit!

Cool video. 😊

I have to admit, the design of the Honda is really good... But £4,000 more for half the mileage.... Its a deal breaker! Years ago I had a Renault Kangoo EV with the same 120 mile range and it was hopeless travel 30 miles from home and you get scared.... Not knowing you will be able to return. As 120 miles range is never more than 80 in real life!!

@magnum7068

Жыл бұрын

It's actually 161 miles not 229 as they claimed 4,000 for a solid reliable japanese car better exterior & interior and more fun to drive, the guy clearly didn't like driving that Peugeot.

@BoatLoadsofDope

Жыл бұрын

​​​@@magnum7068o no those are kilometers, not miles. A Honda E does 205 km at best in summer and around 160 km in winter. Aka 129 - 100 miles and that is with heaters off. With heater on it'll at best do 80 - 90 miles in cold weather.

@davidperry7128

9 ай бұрын

@@magnum7068 The 208 range have excellent reliability and the build quality is streets ahead of the Honda. The reviewer is conforming to lazy preconceptions of French cars, interestingly he calls understeer fun in the Honda but criticises the Peugeot for the same trait.

どちらが楽しいか、感性を刺激したのはホンダだったようですね。

@thayolx

Жыл бұрын

運転するときは楽しめることが一番なのでは

Put the E208 in sports mode mine flys round the streets, the Honda looks ugly the 208 looks very sporty in comparison, mines the GT model with 156HP

They should rename this Top gear.

Isn't that the advance Honda e they putting up against the 208? Because that has 156bhp?

@Chester-UK

Жыл бұрын

The clue is the 16" wheels and no 240V socket. The Advance has PS4 tyres, and that alone would have been enough to beat the e208 on track but the extra power would have put some distance in too. Considering it was up against the GT, it's an unfair test but I blame Honda because they should have supplied an Advance. Their PR dept needs a serious rethink.

@davidwebster3948

Жыл бұрын

@@Chester-UK if you look carefully at 3:06 you can see the dash and steering wheel, with the 220v socket peaking out, the heated steering wheel button on wheel, and the parking pilot button on the dash which only came on the Advance model. As for the wheels, my 2020 E Advance came with 16" wheels for some reason too. I'd say the combo of skinnier wheels and the weight of the glass roof had a big part to play in not getting around corners fast enough.

@Chester-UK

Жыл бұрын

@@davidwebster3948 Got it. Still the 16" wheels came with Yokohama BluEarth tyres, not a patch on 17" PS4 tyres on track. Never under-estimate the difference tyres make.

@davidperry7128

9 ай бұрын

The new Peugeot is 156 hp, slightly bigger battery and more efficient motor, so even bigger range

I'm assuming the E in both the Honda and the Peugeot are electric? They sure sound it.

Honda E design is just awesome

@f.ludovico3105

Жыл бұрын

Not really

Seems logical to put these two cars around a track to compare sporting credentials, surely thats what everyone looks for in an EV.....

why would I care how fast an electric hatchback goes around a track, grow up

What a pointless review - complaining that a city car hasn’t got any ‘get up & go’ after 60mph… it’s not a track car ffs…

How could anyone buy that Honda with that pathetic range.

@petevr

Жыл бұрын

Just for the driving fun, did 40000 km in mine over the last 16 months....

@Chester-UK

Жыл бұрын

Because we don't need the range in ours. Even 70-80 mile range in sub-zero temperatures is fine. Then ~120 miles in the summer is a bonus. 15K+ miles done, never looked back.

A completely pointless exercise.

The Peugeot looks like a Peugeot. The Honda is like nothing else, and it looks cool and fun.

Great video as always 🙂😊😊

The Honda has been a flop and will not receive a next gen. The 208 meanwhile is a best seller.

That honda is gorgeous

@espenjohansen8074

Жыл бұрын

only on the outside

@davidperry7128

9 ай бұрын

@@espenjohansen8074 Not even that.

Revolt 2023

I have a Honda. I wish I had a Peugeot.

@maartenyzer4121

Жыл бұрын

use to..

🥃📡🥃

The Hondas looks will date very quickly

@ewadge

Жыл бұрын

I personally think it’s the exact opposite. The next Peugeot will make the this one look old. I think the Honda e will become a cult classic.

I can't get my head around car designers changing ideas that have been around for decades because decades ago, they knew it was the best way to go. So Pugs over the steering wheel dashboard. *Pathetically pointless.* But it's OK if you're a _certain_ height. And unless you are that height, then it doesn't matter what you do, you'll never see the dashboard properly. But if you can see it, then the steering wheels in totally the wrong place. My missus is five foot nothing. And that's on a good day. So she'd never be able to get the steering wheel low enough to see over it. It would have to be removable, wireless, and resting on her lap*. * I just hope I've not opened up a can of worms and some designer is now thinking, _"Hmmm... A wireless steering wheel that sits on the drivers lap? And you wouldn't be able to steal the car without it. An interesting idea..."_

@mirkozlikovski9553

Жыл бұрын

hmm... I have P508SW II and I absolutely love its iCockpit... so much that when I drive my other car with "normal" steering wheel, it feels like I'm driving a steamboat 😋! also, my missus is 1.6 m high and has absolutely no problem with dashboard visibility and neither have I (I'm 1.75m).... all that with having the seat not even nearly jacked completely up, or the steering wheel lowered into the lap.... in fact, in my sitting position I still have over an opened palm of space left between the steering wheel and my legs!!! all that with having sitting position practically "by the book" (legs, back, arms position and angles of and between them..) to be fair, the steering wheel feels and is a bit lower than in "normal" cars, but mainly because of its smaller diameter.... its axis is not that drastically lower than the axis of "see through" steering wheels! so, from my first-hand experience, I don't really understand what you are talking about...😌

@andref8246

11 ай бұрын

We've two peugeots in the family and love the cockpit design. The wife is 150 cms tall and I'm 180. Neither of us have any issue with the Icockpit.

@davidperry7128

9 ай бұрын

Try adjusting the seat.

I like honda e, and I don't even like ev.

A rather poor review that. The shootout shouldn’t be subjective, it should be based upon the facts. The Peugeot trumps the Honda in every aspect, especially when it comes to price versus range. The cheaper, faster and longer range Peugeot was clearly the better car and should be the one that was recommended in the review.

@noneyabizz8337

Жыл бұрын

One is a Honda and the other isn't...

@ciaranm8772

Жыл бұрын

@@noneyabizz8337 So you’d pay extra just for the badge? For a car that will be terminally rotten in 10 years like every other Honda.

@noneyabizz8337

Жыл бұрын

@@ciaranm8772 I'd definitely pay more for a Honda than a Peugeot, Honda is much higher quality. If a Honda falls apart for you in 10 years, you're really bad at taking care of cars. And my god, that Peugeot must be scrap in a blink of an eye.

@thabzmad7265

Жыл бұрын

@@noneyabizz8337 Ignore, definitely a salty former Honda fiancee! The Honda E was never meant to be mainstream volume selling, more akin to the BMW I30 exclusive collectible designer concept for the few. That said the Japanese collective of Honda, Mazda, Suzuki, Mitsubishi et al need to up their game as the game is about to explode into EV madness being led by the Chinese with the Koreans a bit behind.

@carlmarkwyatt

Жыл бұрын

It's typical for car journalists to knock Peugeots for some reason, even when comparing to inferior cars (guess they don't bribe as well as the other manufacturers). That said, I would struggle choosing between these two as they both look great but would prefer to wait for the EV hot hatch segment to mature before making the jump from ICE.

yet another FWD VICTORY over a bad rwd car.....

The Honda e really is just a hot cynical mess to targeting affluent buyers. It's far from a small car, it dwarfs Toyota's AygoX, and that's already a cynical POS

Pointless

wtf wants to drive a peugeot

@espenjohansen8074

Жыл бұрын

anyone who loves good looking cars.

@obihz2415

Жыл бұрын

​@@espenjohansen8074and a comfortable and high price/quality car

@davidperry7128

9 ай бұрын

Ever had a 205?

The Honda e is an amazing, beautiful car with a lot of personality. I love that. Peugeot is a Peugeot, nothing special, just another Peugeot. For me, this Honda is better than the Peugeot.

@johnduff1010

Жыл бұрын

No

@davidperry7128

9 ай бұрын

The Peugeot is indeed a Peugeot. Better suspension, well proven track record across all drive train formats, the Honda is for the 'look at me, I have an electric car' brigade.

@saul512

9 ай бұрын

@@davidperry7128 Everyone has their own opinion. I like reliability and driving dynamics, to be comfortable I stay at home sitting on the sofa drinking a few beers. They are Tastes. 😅

Good

Very interesting

I do not like the interior of the Peugeot, the Opel/Vauxhall are much better.

Keep the Plato videos coming, no point watching the other guff

2 jumped up mobility carts.

@espenjohansen8074

Жыл бұрын

something tells me you have never driven a electic car..

OMG is this the future of motoring videos🚜 fith gear just got like🍆 💧💧💧💧💧 please just shoot me now⚠sigh!

Lot of paid Honda fan boys commenting here. As you can see on numbers and track, Honda is shit. Half range, more expensive, slower, uglier. And this comes from BMW guy. Z3, E36/E46 coupe owner.

I don't care! The Honda wins my heart, the little electric grand-cousin to the original Civic. More EVs need to bring so much character as the Honda e.