Short shifting a civic si is the faster way around a racetrack. We live in strange times.

@Dolby109

7 жыл бұрын

Sorta like the Fiesta ST...tiny turbo's make that low end torque.

@benjaminbergquist74

3 жыл бұрын

It has peak HP @5700 RPM, I go for redline but that’s just me.

It really is the best deal for the money out there right now.

@postalpancho

5 жыл бұрын

Not really. The base price is 24,300. For 1k more you get the GTI and for 2k more your in a WRX.

@postalpancho

5 жыл бұрын

A 2.0 camaro vs an SI would be a good race.

10 secs faster time than the last gen SI around the same track. Very nice

Just bought a 2020 civic si. I was cross shopping it with the civic hatch sport cvt. I test drove the hatch first and i wasn't impressed with the power. Even around 3k rpm i didnt feel much surge of power. It felt too much like my 2011 mazda 3 2.5 hatch in terms of power delivery. I test drove the Si right after and it is the first car i ever drove that made me giggle. Past 3k there is a shove and you really feel the torque pushing you into the seat. It really feels and sounds amazingly good. Clutch and transmission is amazing, i havent driven stick in many years and i picked it right back up. Looking at numbers it is not a big difference between Si and Sport hatch, but driving them back to back i know there is a huge difference in power. Its much closer to a Gti and Wrx

@aluisious

3 жыл бұрын

Dude the Si is barely faster than the Sport CVT. I drove them back to back, the Si might have a little more torque but you cannot shift it fast because of the awful rev hang. It's not really a good car because Honda didn't want it to be. They saved rev matching shifts for the Type R for marketing reasons, rev matching with fly by wire throttles is the easiest thing to implement.

Imagine being the person driving all these cars, awesome job

@scootosan

7 жыл бұрын

She did a great job

Did I read that right? The civic is 5 seconds faster than a BRZ w/ performance pack...

@christianservin7635

5 жыл бұрын

Kevin Yang oh oh oh yes and I enjoy Everytime I pass BRZ, FRS, Oh and of course the 86 😁

@postalpancho

5 жыл бұрын

Wish the 86 had a 1.5t instead of that lame NA 2.0. Civic just has too much grunt for the 86 to keep up.

@aluisious

3 жыл бұрын

@@postalpancho I wish the 86 had any engine except a Subaru boxer that chews itself up in under 100k.

@postalpancho

3 жыл бұрын

@@aluisious that exact same engine utterly destroys the SI when dropped intl the WRX. They are actually good engines. It's just that there are a bunch of kids that like to mod their cars and not tune them right.

@KTH96

3 жыл бұрын

@@postalpancho The BRZ would've done a lot better if it had proper tires.

The mistake on 01:05 compromised all the long straight, he lost 2 seconds there, at least.

@aluisious

3 жыл бұрын

Car and Driver needs to hire a racing driver like Randy Pobst. Watching these guys overbrake corners and miss the line is upsetting.

This really beat a brz in damp conditions. Wow, faster on track and a better daily. Even with fwd, civic has it.

@KTH96

3 жыл бұрын

Too be fair, FWD is inherently advantageous in poor weather conditions compared to RWD. Doesn't help that the BRZ is already undertired, especially when compared to the competition in this Lightning Lap. Hopefully the 2022 Lightning Lap gives us a more fair comparison with the new BRZ and Si.

@XxUltimateGodzXx

3 жыл бұрын

@@KTH96 Yeah I'm really looking forward to the new 2.4l in the brz. Should be interesting!

Seems like a respectable lap, especially for the ~$25k price tag. Makes you wonder how fast the Type R is!

@GlassTopRX7

7 жыл бұрын

Better question why is there no Type R?

@SomethingFunny454

7 жыл бұрын

Honda probably wouldn't give them one. I've heard dealers are really making them hard to buy. Even the Si is being sold at an unfair price, Honda ads specifically say the Si is not included in any sales or special interest rates.

@GlassTopRX7

7 жыл бұрын

I'm sure if they tried they could have found an owner with one that would have helped out with some assurances. I would wager they did that with the 918. At any rate that one the hottest new cars release this year.

@DownWithTheWay

5 жыл бұрын

Much faster

2:15 Money shift.

@jamesshives5679

5 жыл бұрын

I don't think that was really a money shift, just downshifted too early. He wasn't accelerating at that point, he was decelerating. He was definitely downshifting too early/quickly though

@RCXDerp

4 жыл бұрын

@@jamesshives5679 He missed the gas, its the reason I've got a pedal spacer on mine even with size 12 shoes

@aluisious

3 жыл бұрын

@@jamesshives5679 these guys are not real track drivers. It's awful watching them.

@Bikeanon

3 жыл бұрын

@@jamesshives5679 It was definitely a money shift. The speedo indicates 75MPH after he shifts to second gear - the gearing dicates 57 MPH is the maximum speed in second gear.

Can you guys produce more video content please? Not saying go all commercial like Motor Trend but some good car content would be greatly appreciated.

So much wheel squeal. These were the summer tires, correct? Also a bummer that the pedals are spaced far enough to make heel toe complicated. This use to be a strength of Honda's in the past

@Dolby109

7 жыл бұрын

It wasn't too terrible in the Civic sport I drove. Then again I am used to the Fiesta ST (with a raised pedal) which is still decently separated.

@williamstomber9587

7 жыл бұрын

The track was damp from days of rain so they were probably struggling somewhat for grip.

@coleraines367

3 жыл бұрын

Acuity makes a great pedal adapter..... just sayin

...was that a moneyshift going into 2nd into the Patriot course from the back straight? Certainly sounded like it and the speed was still in the 60s (above top of 2nd)

@jamesshives5679

5 жыл бұрын

I don't think that was really a money shift, just downshifted too early. He wasn't accelerating at that point, he was decelerating. He was definitely downshifting too early/quickly though

Great video!

Why didn't you guys test the type r?

Not terrible for just 205 horsepower and not even 25 large.

Please do a lap with a Hondata flashed Ecu

Yeap the pedals are far away I can't do the shit either in mine. But it is ok.

@7viewerlogic670

7 жыл бұрын

No it is not ok, heel and toe must survive!

Hmmmm... This new Si seems kind of dull from just watching the video, but the lap time was good...

@KevinMO91

7 жыл бұрын

Underpantsniper you're totally right! It only was 4 miles an hour slower then a porshe 911 in the straight, took a corner over 10 miles an hour faster then the new track tuned 1LE and destroyed the times of the focus st, fiesta st, s2000 cr, and wrx. In fact the only car that beat it in this segment was a wrx with full track package which includes suspension upgrades and brembo brakes. This car is sooo dull!!!

@bogdan135

7 жыл бұрын

4 mph slower on straight? You mean 40 mph (turbo s)? 121 for si, 161 for 911 turbo

@KevinMO91

7 жыл бұрын

Well, you can't read it's okay I'll help you. Nowhere did I say this car had a higher top speed then the 911 it's more interesting that you googled the top speed for both cars but you couldn't bother opening the link right under this video and read the article where it says this "At the top, the Si hit 110.4 mph, which is 12.5 mph faster than an equally powerful BRZ and only 4.0 mph off the 580-hp 911 Turbo S." Again all you have to do is click this link www.caranddriver.com/LL2017 Then browse and read the article about the Si's lap AMAZING RIGHT READING IS FUN!!!!!!!

@bogdan135

7 жыл бұрын

I didn't google top speeds, you can see them before braking for the 1st corner, AKA as "the straight". Top of the esses is NOT the STRAIGHT! Maybe you need to state your point better. But yeah, the Si did have good high speed stability, I'm a fan.

@Goondindon

7 жыл бұрын

fastestlaps.com/tracks/virginia-international-raceway-grand-east-course-post-01-2014

Omg we get it you can’t afford a 17 si, my god, yes your 8 or 1gen si is so superior 🤦‍♂️

@lollol-xp4mc

4 жыл бұрын

8th gen is just as fun but this is for sure quicker

Granny shiftin' not double clutchin' like you should. You're lucky that hundred shot of NOS didn't blow the welds on the intake!

@churro2693

6 жыл бұрын

Classic 😂😂😂😂

bestbang for the buckaroo

What the F is going on at 1:04?

Sounds awful. Just isn't an Si without that thing wailing at 7k...

@KevinMO91

7 жыл бұрын

smokesgtp only 500 rpm difference and it smoked the 9th gens lap time by over 10 seconds LEL

@hondamanvtec2894

7 жыл бұрын

smokesgtp soo you Rather drive your slow ass Si than the fast New one 😅 typical ricers

The last best Si was the 8th Gen....

@813GC

6 жыл бұрын

ReSourceOnTheBeat to bad the 8th gen was dirt slow compared to the new ones 🤷🏻‍♂️

VW GLi beat it by 4 seconds, LMAO.

@erikb1373

4 жыл бұрын

2.4 sec, not sure where you got 4. Still much rather have a Honda :)