Fun fact: The Honda City diesel goes limp mode after a range 0km restart and won’t rev past ~1,000rpm EDIT: Fuel-efficiency data as per Zigwheels' standardized real-world test (city/highway): Honda City Diesel: 15.32kmpl/21kmpl Honda City Hybrid: 20.15kmpl/23.38kmpl VW Virtus DSG: 12.12.kmpl/19kmpl As Alan stated in the video, the hybrid delivers its best highway efficiency with consistent/steady drive conditions but is sensitive to fluctuating traffic wherein EV mode can't engage as often/easily. The constant highway filtering that we had to do on NH8 is what ate into the City Hybrid's efficiency.

@Ram-lu1wn

Жыл бұрын

Lol 😂

@dhanarajp3397

Жыл бұрын

Might be to save fuel pump and the injector. Diesel cars does not like driving with low fuels.

@tusharkamath9520

Жыл бұрын

@@dhanarajp3397 Righto!

@SanjayGupta02887

Жыл бұрын

What are the tank sizes of these cars? And how many litres of fuel was filled to the brim, if we talk about the actual FE numbers?

@rdaroga

Жыл бұрын

I've still managed to do a 65-70 kph on the sealink in this mode

Just a thought.... Imagine a diesel hybrid.

@Moonlight-hq3gi

Жыл бұрын

will be too expensive and complicated

@rahulbasker8593

Жыл бұрын

Ciaz once had that. Mild hybrid though

@maxwelldmello390

Жыл бұрын

Diesel engine are not that good at turning on and off

@siddharthmedhi

Жыл бұрын

Won't happen

@vijhayprashaanth7933

Жыл бұрын

Coming soon in fortuner next year hybrid diesel hybrid

Factor in the price differential between petrol and diesel and the diesel makes all the more sense. Also point to note, the Virtus has 5 extra litres of fuel tank capacity.

@TheTwinPost

Жыл бұрын

Factor in the price difference of 4+ lakhs while buying the car too... Diesel City costs almost 4+ lakhs less than the Diesel eHev

It's not just the Diesel factor But also the manual transmission which helped to max the range in our own hands

@shahan484

Жыл бұрын

Cruise control will always give more range than any human

@Turpedo

3 күн бұрын

I guess if it was CVT it will be even more Efficient then the manual. also Yeah Manual Transmission and Cruise Control Makes a Huge Impact , I own a 2019 Amaze I - DTEC Manual i was able to get A tank to tank Mileage of above 30kmpl with almost 2 to 3 ltrs of fuel left in tank with 963 Kms on Trip Meter and the range was 63kms at that time . My Average Driving was 75 kms a day with almost 10 to 15 kms in normal city traffic and AC On for almost 300 to 400 kms , avg Speed Varies between 70 kmph to 90kmph at that time

@Turpedo

3 күн бұрын

Also My Car does have tank of 35 Ltrs

I have a City eHev. My driving style has changed because of it.. especially the 250 NM torque it gives. Used to drive sedately and now have lots more fun. Yes it isn't as efficient as a diesel at highway cruising, never will be. Most of its efficiency comes from them braking. And if there's no braking, there's no energy recovered, it's only as good as any another efficient petrol. What's amazing is you can drive it with a heavy foot, having loads of fun and still get 17-18 on the highway. And in the city, it's just brilliant. Easily does 18-22 kmpl in very heavy traffic. Fun fact, in the recent Bangalore rains, i got stuck in traffic taking 3 hours to travel 6 kms. Reset the trip meter to see what it says after about a km of this. So it does 24 kmpl over a 5 km distance that took nearly 3 hours, and the AC was on full time. Because the engine was off most of the time coming on just once in a while to top up juice lost by running the AC.

@srinitaaigaura

Жыл бұрын

It did 34.5 kmpl at 60 kmph

@RaghunathSIyengar

Жыл бұрын

@@srinitaaigaura it will but driving at 60kmph 1000 kms is not what normal driving looks like

@srinitaaigaura

Жыл бұрын

@@RaghunathSIyengar But this is ok within or just around city limits.

@fonsekhmaniya1687

Жыл бұрын

So great ownership review in your words awaits for sedan car

@HillariousPanda16

27 күн бұрын

​@@RaghunathSIyengarI don't think going beyond 80 is anything being cool drive in a limit drive safe family frst u get only one life

This is exactly the kind of vehicle review people wanted to see. Keeping day to day life into perspective. You guys earned my respect ❤️

Diesel fan for life... This video brought a huge smile on my face ☺

@ishanbarai4334

2 ай бұрын

Cry out loud you gonaa miss them soon

@KT_TB350

2 ай бұрын

@@ishanbarai4334 already do every time I fill my petrol powered car 😁

@ujjvallal9909

Ай бұрын

@@KT_TB350nigga you got no diesel ?

@ebenezarpaul5158

25 күн бұрын

​@@ishanbarai4334Cry out loud, EV's won't be the future, Hybrids and Hydrogen will be the future.

Wow! I didn’t expect this!! Do more stuff like this guys, loved it

Awesome video. What a comparison. Comparative results always are very informative. Thanks ZigWheels team.

This is such a delightful comparison , You guys are amazing , Thank you !!!

By far the best video on Zigwheels i would say. It was an absolute bliss to watch this video as a Diesel Head ❤️😍 Pretty Straight Forward tech! Thanks a lot Zigwheels team !

I'd still have the Virtus for the sheer driving excitement that car gives you.

@Savethemanuals94

4 ай бұрын

Sheer driving excitement?

@imjames1936

24 күн бұрын

What are talking bro.. 😅

Its been a while That Ive been watching car review videos and this is the first time after a long time, a comparo has excited me that much. A lot of hard work and brilliant twist at the end made this one a hit!

Loved this video. Nice content. Really appreciate your work. Watched entire video without fast forward. Would like to watch same among all hybrids which are there in the market.

I really enjoyed every second of this video! Amazing work guys! This was a needed video at this time, when the fuel prices are going up! Thanks!

Again guys you did an amazing job love to watch video like this and that too with indian tadka. Watching same test on top gear was fun but in reality with day to day cars is much more informative. Great job!!!!

Well made and thought out video, the topic itself makes a lot of sense and ofcourse the diesel too. You are paying 4-5 lacs extra for a hybrid city and also compromising on boot space.!! Thanks guys, great video!! 🤘😊

Tushar is right. Diesel makes sense even today. Diesel Cars are the OG one beast one. No hybrid or turbo petrol can beat them in terms of torque and mileage. 😤💪🏻

@ahammedsinan555

Жыл бұрын

Even more with diesel hybrids, Mercedes GLE 350de diesel hybrid gives jaw dropping 90 kmpl with 320 hp and 700 nm torque Torque Monsters 💯

@wennwenn1422

Жыл бұрын

In this day and age, diesel is not practical for people who want to hold on to their cars for a long time. There could be leeway for petrol cars in some cities but there is no way for diesel cars.

Loved this Top Gear style comparo… with Tushar sounding like Jeremy with that game plan. More of these please!! ❤️

Few things missed and would have added a great value to the video. 1. Refueled and manual calculation would have defined the correct mileage. 2. Are all the vehicle tank capacities the same? If not, then point 1 would have come in handy.

@abhinavk3505

Жыл бұрын

Agreed with point 1, but point 2 won't make sense buddy because all 3 cars have different fuel types. To say, City's capacity is 40L and Virtus' capacity is 45L, but it is obvious that Diesel is definitely more efficient than the Petrol (in this case it's a Turbo Petrol which eats fuel like anything) and the EHEV with it's hybrid technology is also really efficient. So considering the fuel tank capacity won't make much sense

@darani123

Жыл бұрын

@@abhinavk3505 Sounds like a fair point.!

@chuffmeister1130

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Considering all the variables, a final ₹ per kilometre calculation would have helped. Also, mention the prices of fuels used, so one can make their own calculations in the future as the prices fluctuate.

You guys are killing it. Something NEW in the market about reviewing cars. My best wishes.😊

Bhai aag laga di yaar👍 This is called Quality content👌 I give full marks to you guys 👌be it your presentation, effort, analysis, humor. All boxes checked 👍 Keep up such Excellent work 👌👌👌❤️

Great comparison with conventional fuel VS Hybrid system. Your route of travel is from Mumbai to Gujrat highway is great way of explanation testing fuel efficiency in real condition.

This was a perfect comparison, you guys did great.

Loved this kind of comparo, thank you Zigwheels Loved watching it 🤩🤩🤩

Good one guys 👍👍 Very Informative and love to hear more especially on hybrid engines in coming days ✌️✌️crossed fingers and waiting to see the performance of Vitara and Hyrider performance 😊😊

The best test drive.. we really wanted such reviews of the cars . 👍

Love the way u guys put content on cars!! Wishing u loads more success and followers!! Cheers guys !

Love love love it. Bring on more Hybrid tests

I truly want Indian car manufacturers to bring hybrid down to 7-8 lakh rupee price range. It'll be far better than pushing gimmicky features like auto headlamps, auto wipers, push start stop, etc.

Watched the video fully without skipping! Now, that's the quality content. Keep it up Zigwheels!

This is the video that made me coming back to this channel, i love this video

Love the turbo diesels...Am on my 3rd turbo diesel now. Started with the 1.3ddis Swift, the 1.5 renault and now the beastly 2.0 multijet 2 on the compass. Each of these engines are gems in their own right. Creamy power delivery , lots of torque , massive cruise ability.

Loved the video. Thank you. I am again happy to own a diesel Scross which gives me 26 kmpl on highways even after 52000 kms on the odo. A properly maintained diesel is actually not as polluting as it is projected to be. It's almost 19/20 between a normal petrol and diesel when it comes to CO2 emissions and other pollutants. Sad that we are being forced to let go the beauty of an engine and settle for hybrids and EVs. So if I have to let go my Scross in the near future, I will go for the Virtus. 700+ kms on a semi-performance car is hugely commendable. Fun to drive and frugal at the same time, like you guys mentioned

That was a 'one of a kind ' test.... excellent work guys

I own city hybrid. And I agree with the observation regarding highway drive. If you drive with a heavy right-foot then efficiency begins to drop. But at the same time - the hybrid makes up for that with its Adas features … my fav one being it’s adaptive cruise control.

Very nice content, loved every second of it ❤️

I love the video and would definitely recommend you to do more such videos. ❤️

This is what people really wanna see... Keep it Up guys❤️

What an amazing real world test! Makes perfect sense! Would love to see the new hybrids being put to test against the last remaining frugal diesels!

@Eren-da-Jaeger

Жыл бұрын

amazing real world? they had to go till engine runs out of fuel, not stop when range says 0.

@SuperAlanmax

Жыл бұрын

@@Eren-da-Jaeger Do you do that with ur car when checking efficiency? Just kidding. Honestly you shouldn't really run cars till they stutter and stop as you run the chance of damaging the fuel pump. You will also get air in your fuel lines and then will take a while for the cars to start-up again. Diesels have even more problems as they usually run higher pressure in their fuel lines.

Great idea & comparison.... Really loved it... I'm with Tushar, I love turbo diesels, economy and you can have fun on highways without the guilt. But I'm not happy about diesels being eliminated one by one from market. Even at Honda it's hard to get a Diesel Amaze and even city. Plz save the diesel cars along with Tiger.

Very good experiment and super relevant to know where hybrid stands in present and diesel still rocks!! Miss them!

Was a joy to watch.. Although Iam Pro Hybrid, I did love to see the Manual Diesel keeping it together. Hope u guys will do a video on how to increase the efficiency on the Hybrid along with similar real world testing.

Hi friends, it is really interesting comparison. Really enjoyed every discussion you people had on the way. It was superb and looking forward such videos of comparison. Thanks all of you….

we definitely need more videos like this ! Great Video Guys

Really appreciate guys .....it is a good learning experience

Great video! A final calculation of ₹ per kilometre would have really added a lot of value and objectivity to the conclusion

You guys have my respect, what a amazing video and effort

It was a Goibibo test enjoyed watching it keep on getting such contents with new up coming hybrids

Amazing comparo… Simply amazing video, very informative and it was fun watching… Thumbs up Zigwheels

Really enjoyed the video, thank you guys. 👍👍

Excellent. Though I personally don’t like diesel, but the honesty and proficiency this video was done is commendable. These are the True automobile experts. Thank you. Thinking of taking hyryder….

One of the best videos and something different ❤️🔥👏👏loved it

An applauds for efforts of you guys...👏 Driving almost 900kms for a video is really impressive...😎 Thanks for informative content...😇

Great Video. would have loved to see the actual mileage after refueling. added bonus would have been the cost/km figure

Nice video...out of box thinking to do such a test with thse 3 cars. Pls do other hybrid comparisons once few more hybrids hit the roads.

We need more such sort of videos guys❤ loved it 🎉

Lovely lovely video guys enjoyed it. Keep it up. Waiting for more videos like this ahead.❤🎉

Great comparo. How does the maintenance cost of the hybrid over a 70k to 100k mileage + the premium on the purchase cost stack up against the diesel?

Now imagine how a *diesel-hybrid* would spare 💥

@maxwelldmello390

Жыл бұрын

Can't make diesel hybrid because they are not able to start and shut so frequently

@piyushquicker4330

Жыл бұрын

Actually it is possible Honda had Diesel Hybrid but closed due to lack of demand.

@childofthwild

Жыл бұрын

@@maxwelldmello390 what kind of clown you are. What is this then? kzread.info/dash/bejne/e2Wtt7GHZN3HhZs.html

@vijayendranvijay4538

Жыл бұрын

Toyota coming up with diesel hybrid innova

@TheFiretiger20

Жыл бұрын

but diesels cant maintain efficiency if they are frequently shut and on, diesel works great after 100 km mark and runs smooth as butter

continue this series.....excellent review really superb 👌🏻 👏 👍🏻

Good Work Guys..... Very thoughtful to make video on the above subject.... Was City Diesel was the winner because it was a manual variant... While the figures were very close of City Hybrid and City Diesel..... Keep it up guys.... Looking forward for more such videos...

Very very interesting watch this was. Didn't expect the City Diesel to top, anyways, loved watching all the ZW fans in one frame.

Excellent content .. hats off to Zigwheels .. you guys are overtaking PD !!

Lovely video, everyone. Its been a while since Indian journos came up with such fun and relevant content which is unbiased. More please!

Guys, you missed to mention one thing. Each car has different Tank sizes, I supposed VW has largest tank compared to Hondas.. It would be good if you have given that insight as well. But nice video.. Appreciate you guys on doing this.

Cost of ownership is also important. We are not sure how these battery pack replacement cost will be in hybrid cars , because it will definitely need replacement after 6-8 years and all money saved in mileage will be taken out one time from our pockets. Need some more insight on this.

@paulg9484

Жыл бұрын

Usually it's not the case. in USA, hybrids have run with original battery upwards of 2-3 lakh kms.

@hiteshadhikari

Жыл бұрын

@@paulg9484 thats because they nominally dont rely on batteries much, the hybrid cars become highly problematic with timr

@shahan484

28 күн бұрын

It's literally a tiny battery pack, smaller less than 1kwh, where Ola scooter has 4kwh battery.

Great videos Guys... For a similar tank full to tank full done in city commute conditions, what would be the EHev advantage?

Nice comparison, i am looking for it. appreciated you zig wheel.

Superb idea to test mileage of cars. Great video 👍

I think the hybrid makes way more sense for sedate drivers. They can extract a lot more with a light foot on highways if the electric mode runs more

Loved the content... Just wish you had added the Fuel Price too in the test. . Like how cheap/costlier is to run hybrid against diesel. . Its India guys, every detail about money matters!

Fantastics Champs !! Totally enjoyed

Loved the content ...Please make more such videos.

Great guys. Love from TN

Huge Diesel fan. Thanks for the info content. Efforts appreciated!!!

Excellent review keep going, you guys rocks

Honda city have fuel tank capacity of 40 litres where as volkswagen virtus has 45 litres. So extra 5 litres would have definitely increased the range by 100 kms.

@codenamearun

Жыл бұрын

By mileage virtus showing 16 kmpl it would be 80 km in advantage of extra 5 litre

Great comparison between Diesel and Petrol hybrid. One question how do the maintenance compare? And the battery needs a replacement on the 8th year?

I decided to buy creta manual diesel because I drive a lot but wanted to test other cars in the 18lakhs budget. I liked City diesel a lot until I test drive salvia. Slavia was a killer man. Keeping in mind, efficiency matter most for me. I had to choose the diesels so I gave up slavia and gave up city because of some cool features in Creta and being an SUV which makes more sense to for our great Indian roads. Creta manual diesel was an overall package. I recently drove a 400 kms highway trip with an average of 23.6kmpl.

@naughtyUphillboy

Жыл бұрын

CRETA is not a SUV, it is a raised FWD enlarged Santro, can be called Crossover at best.

@rahulbasker8593

Жыл бұрын

@@naughtyUphillboy : interesting 🤣. It serves the purpose anyway very much. I have a beefed up santro and it works for me and for many others.

@naughtyUphillboy

Жыл бұрын

@@rahulbasker8593 Good for you , only if Hyundai can manager 4 star crash teat, I will not mind any vehicle.

first time an indian motoring brand has done a good car video. keep it up!

Would love to see such comparison between strong hybrid models from various companies.

Hi Zig_Wheels, I saw your D2D 1&2 videos, it was really awesome and I got the clear idea and plan about the (Petrol Hybrid vs Petrol vs Diesel) and (Mild Hybrid vs Strong Hybrid). Please continue on the D2D videos. I have a few lists of D2D comparisons. 1. Tata's all EV's D2D comparison - Tiago EV vs Tigor EV vs Nexon EV vs Nexon EV Max 2. Made in India Brands - Mahindra XUV400 vs Tata Nexon EV vs Tata Nexon EV Max

Nice efforts. Each driving condition with details like distance and speeds would have given more useful information as to which conditions are preferred for FC for each of these cars. Sadly this was missing.

That was an interesting show !!

Wow !! Amazing contest!! Love to see three hybrids contest next CITY HYBRID vs TOYOTA HYRYDER vs GRAND VITARA all strong Hybrids. Help us choose easy and better. Do love to here about performance and ride comfort inbetween too. 👍🏻

you guys should have done pune to Bangalore road. but loved the diesel even in that bad traffic of Mumbai. fan of diesel, still proves to beat all master of technology.

Absolutely amazing test and true words by Tushar!

It would have been great if you filled up tank in the end and posted the real mileage figures. Exactly the power wrt to mileage the diesel is the best. In petrol/turbo petrol when we drive a little bit enthusiastically the mileage reduces a lot compared to turbo diesel/diesel. Also the diesel is 8-10rs cheaper on avg. In city traffic condition, driving diesel manual is bit easier than petrol manual. But sadly manufactures are phasing out diesel engines.

@chadultrapromax1735

Жыл бұрын

Manufacturers have to face out diesel because the government is against it

@1989rs500

Жыл бұрын

Govt is a huge issue in India. They MUST have the courage to tint diesel. Ie for commercial vehicles. Diesels should be cheaper and for PVs diesel as pricey as petrols. As of now all who buy petrols are fools. Cuz they r spending way more than sometimes the value of car after 1L kms. I can't believe how bad our Gov is in controlling fuel and its prices.

@hirakmohanray667

Жыл бұрын

@@1989rs500 our government is good at winning elections

@1989rs500

Жыл бұрын

@@hirakmohanray667 I d say our governments.. We cannot pin point 1 government, almost all are equally good n squeezing taxes and using our resources to build thier private empires

@paulg9484

Жыл бұрын

Diesel is being phased out world wide in cars due to pollution and to meet new standards, amount of engineering along with cost it takes to have emissions under control is making it tough.

This type of test has to be performed on CNG cars as well, it's a must to have this

Great story! Like your hatke comparo which are actually quite relevant if you think about it

This is most underrated video ,It's really very good informative video made by zigwheels good job here.

Hybrid has Lots of Advantages : Great Fuel Economy Great Driving Pleasure Low Polluting Emmissions Afcorse also the Convinince of a Automatic as well

Good one! But still few information regarding the standards that needs to be followed during the tests are not given. Example: The A/c temperature set, revving limit or max speed limit, capacity of fuel tanks of each cars tested, fairly loaded weights in all the cars etc., next time dont miss these infos. kuddos.

Loved this review that is done with so much hard work. This could have become even more better if you could have got Honda CVT automatic diesel and not a manual. Manual always does have a advantage.

@pareshsawant8036

Жыл бұрын

Honda city diesel is not available in diesel automatic( CVT) , only in petrol automatic( CVT) . Diesel Automatic ( CVT ) available only on Honda Amaze in India .

Awesome comparison. Am a proud owner of 2016 Honda Jazz diesel with 87K + in ODO, highway mileage of 22.7KMPL highway mileage with speed limit of 90 to 100 kmph, city mileage of 15KMPL. Its a well refined engine but NVH will be high which is good trade off compared to the mileage i get :)

A diesel is a diesel is a diesel is a diesel

Awesome video 🙏🏻

The mileage achieved on these cars is great.. however I doubt older cars could have achieved this kind of mileage without tall gearing and a turbo engine.. for eg even the 1.3 multijet wouldn't get you this kind of efficiency above 80 since it was never offered with a 6speed gear box. So a diesel without tall ratios would be less efficient than a hybrid.. something to think about while making the purchase decision

Great way to do a comparo especially with rising fuel prices, would love to see a similar video on compact SUVs Venue vs Brezza vs anything else. Great content please keep such videos coming.