Sheesh, a lot of Honda haters out there. Well I’ll tell you that my 2021 atas has been flawless over the 36000 kms of highway, gravel and back country discovery routes! I’m 62 and only want 1 bike in my garage to maintain so it has to do everything. The AT does everything very well. But the choice comes with compromises, ie, I never intended to take it on gnarly single track and I need to travel significant distances to get to interesting terrain so I need some creature comforts. Comparing it to the T7, Tuareg, etc is silly. You need to list what you must have in a bike then slot in models that meet those needs, if lightweight is a critical need then start with light bikes period!

@onthebackwheel

2 ай бұрын

It looks like every owner loves them mate, you certainly aren't alone

@terrystratford1235

2 ай бұрын

Here here! My 2021 AT 1100 dct is amazing! Ok, not a good in the rough stuff like a t7, or a seat as comfortable as bmw, or as powerful as ktm 1290! But all the good stuff on these bikes is better on the Honda! Mines red/black, lots of denali, altrider and touratech bolted on! Looks great, rides great, Leo vince silencer sounds fkin awesome!! I'm 49, this is probably the last bike I'll buy and I'm not sad about that!!

@user-su2ql2if4k

2 ай бұрын

👏👏👏👍👍👍

Good job Curtis.....and love the chillout chair. I am investigating the CRF450RL for my dirt bike/adv bike - to sit alongside my Tuareg (my "tourer")...so super keen to hear your view and watching you properly using the Honda! total entertainment and informative!

@onthebackwheel

2 ай бұрын

Cheers mate. That would be a mean combo mate, jealous! There's been some delays with Honda, but hopefully I get it soon, very keen🤞

Really liked your series on this bike, Curtis.

@onthebackwheel

2 ай бұрын

Thanks Bill

Great series of videos 👍🏻

@onthebackwheel

Ай бұрын

Thanks mate

Cheers for that. A review on the standard KTM 790/890 would be great.

@onthebackwheel

2 ай бұрын

Will see what I can do, they don't like giving out bikes

@thorstentrapp274

2 ай бұрын

@@onthebackwheel, cross fingers...guess you should have a lot of fun on them. A couple of KTM dealers in Brissie...I'm from there.

@pinkiewerewolf

2 ай бұрын

I have a 22' 890 Adventure S model with a bit over 11,000 miles on the clock. It is a wonderful Adventure bike/Sport-Tourer/lite off-roader. The Gen 2 would be even better with the upgraded suspension. I've been running the Dunlop Trailmax Mission tires on it so that would tell you the limits on my riding. A lot of 15mph over riding through the San Francisco Bay Area and down the twisty US 101. I was riding a 1,000 mile loop a couple of times a month for a while and took it up to Eastern Oregon for the Giant Loop Rally last Summer. The bike performed flawlessly, other than the Dunlops not liking snotty mud. lol Right after my break in service (which I had performed a bit early because of needing it for the 500 mile ride back home) the TFT screen went completely black on me riding through the Bay Area. The bike kept running though so I went with the flow of traffic until I needed to stop for fuel. When I turned the bike back on the screen came back up. I mentioned it on my next service and it hasn't happened since but I do get the internal condensation in the edges of the TFT screen which has always gone away. So, other than the TFT the 1st Gen 890 Adventure has been amazing for me but it would have limits off road do to clearance and suspension compared to the R version. I'm thinking about riding it up to Alaska this Summer if I can break away that long.

@thorstentrapp274

2 ай бұрын

@@pinkiewerewolf, sounds great. I've got a '22 KTM 390Adv and want to upgrade. Something for longer trips, mostly tarmac. Guess the AT would be great, but handling it in the garage and off-road is a bit of a concern...average rider at best and not a big guy either. So, on a long trip on tarmac the AT would be great for me, but off-road and even going fast in the twisties I guess the KTM790/890 would be so much more fun. Can't do any test rides at all. Btw, got some condensation in the display sometimes too...just in a corner a bit. Somewhat not much of a concern. Might be wrong, but it seems to be behind the plastic cover of the screen...doesn't bother me too much. Still, would be good if that issue was fixed with the new displays. Cheers for your feedback.

@pinkiewerewolf

2 ай бұрын

@thorstentrapp274 You’re welcome. 👍 I’m a shorter rider so the S’s lower seat height has been great for me. I had a Pan America and a 1290 Adventure SA-R before the 890 and still have a Gen 2 KLR, the 890 is the Goldilocks bike for my size and age. 5’8” 31” inseam and going on 59 years old. It doesn’t roll around the garage like my 501 but it isn’t as monstrous as my Harley Dresser though. It’s a dream to muscle around compared to the Harley. I used to have to maneuver the 890 between a cottage and a garbage dumpster’s fence to get it into the back yard, so it wasn’t parked on the street. Far easier than the Pan Am or the 1290.

You have done a great balanced job of reviewing in the time you have had this bike. Ref front ABS, I haven't really noticed it but maybe that is down to having more aggressive tyres than stock. The dongle you mention is fantastic, but will still not kill the front ABS (rear ABS, traction and wheelie control only). Front ABS is 'hardwired' into the ECU and can't be disabled. You mentioned in a previous video pulling the front ABS fuse. Might be an option but I would be willing to bet that everything else will light up like a Xmas tree if you did. Anyhow, love that you are willing to have a crack at answering questions rather than BSing around them.

@onthebackwheel

2 ай бұрын

Thanks mate. I'd love to try it with better tyres, hopefully on the next model

Mine is a 2016 DCT, 70,000 km, zero problems, I’ll get the new one at the end of the year. Nice review. 👍

@onthebackwheel

Ай бұрын

Nice mate, should be a great upgrade

Good discussion!

@onthebackwheel

Ай бұрын

Cheers. Good questions certainly help too

Mate you’re awesome. Thanks for your time and effort to make our life so much easier. One question, my local dealer has a 4K off on their 2023 model but I’m interested in 2024 model because it’s a bit lower because I have 31 inch leg. Which would you recommend me to buy? Thanks heaps

New subscriber added I am Happy because KZread recommend your video to me I like your way of representation I wish you become successful in upcoming months

@onthebackwheel

2 ай бұрын

Thanks mate, good to have you onboard!

Great video as usual.....you didn't mention the issue regarding getting to the air filter 🙄

@onthebackwheel

2 ай бұрын

Hehe not this time

@johnrovere2286

2 ай бұрын

@@onthebackwheel ok👍

@Corey-pd3mi

2 ай бұрын

There is no issue getting to the air filter

@johnrovere2286

2 ай бұрын

@@Corey-pd3mi ok i must have watched another video in which it was stated as an issue....my apologies if I got it wrong

Owned one of these for 3 years. Don't know what the issue is with the ABS. Push the enter button highlight the abs and toggle to off. Any issues you had with its sliding is with the tyres. You must turn every screen onto gold for functionality. Takes about 60 seconds to do all screens in settings. Set the favourites button (star button, left hand switch gear) to traction control and you can scroll through what ever level of TC on the fly. Wheelie control is an effing waste of time and MUST turned off whenever you get off the sealed road. For those interested this video kzread.info/dash/bejne/aYCby6mrgZnPadY.htmlsi=4tQ_UWsCvPh0o_Ho simplifies the whole thing. Scroll through to 41 min to the start of the Africa Twin part.

@onthebackwheel

2 ай бұрын

I've explained it in previous videos, the ABS activates when the front wheel gets remotely light. It's actually alright after that, but yep, would be super keen to try with better tyres

My Honda AT 1100 ❤❤❤

hi thanks for the video,, how lighter is the Africa compared to the KTM 1290?

@onthebackwheel

Ай бұрын

Yeah a little bit. The KTM holds its weight well but is still 10kg heavier

Would you take this where you took the KLR? And you took the KLR to some very knarly spots! Thanks for the video. :)

@onthebackwheel

2 ай бұрын

Yeah mate for sure! It's actually got a bit more ground clearance, but I'd feel bad treating such a nice bike like that 😬

Like others I'd also like to see you on an 890 adventure R. It'd be interesting to hear how you feel it compares to the Tuareg mate 🤙

@onthebackwheel

2 ай бұрын

I'll see what I can do, KTM won't give out bikes so I'll have to borrow one off a willing victim 😂

Looking forward to a Himalayan 450 and a new 2024 KTM ADV when it comes out8f you get a chance. I am looking forward to the CF moto 450 review.

@onthebackwheel

2 ай бұрын

Very keen to try all of them out mate.

If you put this bike in the spectrum of VSTROM800DE and VSTROM1050DE, which end would you think this bike fits into better? In terms of power, AT is more closed to 1050DE, but weight more towards 800DE

@onthebackwheel

2 ай бұрын

I think more towards the 800de. The 1050 is a fair bit more road biased

Out of all the bigger Adv bikes you’ve ridden,which one gives the best wind protection?

@onthebackwheel

2 ай бұрын

Probably the BMW GS with the lip on top

I’d like you to through in a 800re with dirt tires in with the adventure sports

@onthebackwheel

Ай бұрын

I'd have to get my hands on one! The 800re just looks like a street bike to me. I mean it would do basic dirt and gravel, but the adventure sport is still an adventure/travel bike

@user-jq8kh1hy7e

Ай бұрын

@@onthebackwheel i’d like to see if it’s a better gravel road bike than the DE

@onthebackwheel

Ай бұрын

@@user-jq8kh1hy7e I wouldn't think so, the rake is different and it has different suspension travel. Keen to try one, but yeah I'd go the 800de if you were heading near gravel

@user-jq8kh1hy7e

Ай бұрын

@@onthebackwheel what’s your opinion on a 19” wheel setup on the DE

@onthebackwheel

Ай бұрын

@@user-jq8kh1hy7e the de has a 21 front. For gravel, dirt and off-road I much prefer it. The suspension is better too. If you're thinking about hitting gravel or dirt it's the way to go

Tenere world raid test ?

@onthebackwheel

2 ай бұрын

That would be nice, but they don't give bikes unfortunately. Hopefully a mate gets his hands on one

My old Volvo s40 runabout car had about the same fuel consumption. That was a cylinder car. Not saying I would not buy or ride the AT, esp with DCT.

@onthebackwheel

2 ай бұрын

Exactly, not great

Ducati Desert X, how do you think it compares?

@onthebackwheel

2 ай бұрын

I haven't ridden one, though I don't think I'd buy one as an adventure bike with the air filter access and servicing (unless they become proven over time)

Have Barkbusters finally made a kit for the V-Strom? Like a legit alloy backbone or just the guards on the original stock plastics? Contact them for a set! Edit: latest info content on the 450MT is close to 200kg fully kitted. That’s heavy for a little twin, unfortunately.

@onthebackwheel

2 ай бұрын

They have, looks like they aren't giving me anything so I'll have to fork out. And yes, that mt450 weight is up there!

Looking forward to the CFMOTO 450.

@onthebackwheel

Ай бұрын

It's definitely popular. Keen to get my hands on one

👍😊🤝

I hope Honda has improved build quality and reliability compared to the old 1000 model. My 2016 Africa Twin was a lemon, worst bike I ever owned

@onthebackwheel

2 ай бұрын

Yikes, what went wrong with it?

@sspirito3130

2 ай бұрын

@@onthebackwheel A number of intermittent electrical gremlins, leaking forks, which is a serious issue because it is caused by the coating wearing off, bubbles of rust on frame joints, wheels made of butter, and I seized the rear bearing at 12,000Km. Other than that, it is a horrible bike to work on, changing the air filter takes almost one hour, adjusting the valves is an absolutely nightmare and they were way out of spec at 24,000Km. Not an easy bike to live with

@onthebackwheel

2 ай бұрын

@@sspirito3130 sounds like a nightmare mate and good to hear from an owner

@AnyMotoUSA

2 ай бұрын

​@@onthebackwheelowned my 2016 AT for 100k miles. The forks issue, solved at 30k with a set of 2018 ATAS uppers. I've gone through 3 sets of wheel bearings, 3 sets of air filters, an IACV valve and 3 sets of spark plugs and all new spark plug boots at 100k. After 92k the bike had a slight misfire until round 98k when it quit running...I adjusted my valves, the exhaust valve on cylinder 1 became tight and now it runs perfectly. I do all my own maintenence except for this last one where just didn't have time and took it into the shop. I change my own tires and do most of the regular recommended service maintenance. The fairings aren't hard to remove and the airbox only takes about 15 minutes to get to. The bike isn't hard to work on by any means, and is dead reliable. Sucks that ol boy got a lemon, but I love my 1000 its the best bike I've ever owned and she goes anywhere I ask her to. Yeah she's heavy, but I'm a big boy so thats OK with me. If I really want to do the hard enduro, ill just ride a dirt bike like a sane person.

@onthebackwheel

2 ай бұрын

@@AnyMotoUSA nice mate, seems like he got a lemon as most people are saying they are really happy with theirs

This is not a 2024 model isn’t it?

@abedalrhmanarslan2901

2 ай бұрын

2023 standard

@abedalrhmanarslan2901

2 ай бұрын

Standard 2024 comes with automatic suspension

@onthebackwheel

2 ай бұрын

23 (and possibly 24 depending on when it's made). Still waiting on the new models to be released. The standard has electronic suspension as an option mate

A hard pass to Honda!