Honda / Acura V6 engine ticking, knocking, rattle noise from bad timing belt tensioner
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This 2009 honda pilot 3.5 v6 has a loud ticking, knocking, rattle type noise coming from the engine. these engines have a hydraulic fluid filled timing belt tensioner, and when they fail or start to fail, this noise will start to happen. hope this video helps. thank you for watching FixItPhillip
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Man finally a person who give torque spec and uses torque wrench definitely a good mechanic
Thank you this was the first video that showed the steps to take the timing belt tensioner off.
This is a good video... I wanted to see if anyone else has actually started the car with the covers off but crank pulley on like this to verify where the noise is coming from... Now I'll feel better about doing it thanks man
Thanks for this information. My 2008 Honda Accord EX (3.5 V6) has had a knocking sound for the past two years. I just dropped it off at an engine shop today.
@angelosalinas4961
9 ай бұрын
Did it fix the rattling?
Thank you for this. My 2006 Honda accord 3.0 is doing this exact same thing. I have ordered the parts and booked it in. Great video 👊👍
2007 pilot here. Has a chattering noise when accelerating when beginning to drive up to 15 to 20 mph then the noise goes away. Will Not Duplicate the same sound while driving past 20 mph or faster. Great video thank you. Will share with mechanic.
@holyspirit8069
5 ай бұрын
I have something similar on my tl. Did you find out what it was?
@hectorzarzuela7416
5 ай бұрын
One mechanic said it is probably the heat shield from the catalytic converter. Another mechanic said it is probably something from the axle. So, I have not received an accurate diagnosis.
4:16 love that shop banter in the back ground🤣
@FixItPhillip
Жыл бұрын
Haha
@TristanVash38
7 ай бұрын
Brings me back home haha love it 🎉
That's the noise I've been hearing. Thank you.
Fantastic. Thank you for sharing
Thanks for sharing, Great information
Sounds like water pump is bad, definitely a bearing noise from one the timing belt components, cool video
@matthewvalentine3549
9 ай бұрын
Prob idler bearings
my 15 RDX makes this noise, now I know. Thanks!
Dude this is an excellent video
@FixItPhillip
Жыл бұрын
Thank you bro
Thanks, jack!
They going ham in tha background🤣🤣🤣💀
I've got a customers 07 MDX I finally pulled into my bay and it was hard to keep running, issue was obvious so not being too far from my bay I lightly limped it in. It ran much more rough then the unit in video. Should I be concerned about possible internal damage? I understand it's most uncertain not knowing for sure without putting eyes on it. It's been close to a decade since Ive dealt with these engines so trying to refresh.
I got a new one not too long ago and it kinda making a chattering noise right now but I felt the tensioner and it didn’t vibrate bad imo. So I looked at the drive belt tensioner and the bottom pulley is hard to turn compared to the upper pulley. So I think that may be causing that metal chatter for me?
What's the brand of the new tensioner you installed?
Bless you Philip, I have that same type of sound coming from my 2017 Ridgeline sports. Do you recommend me to replace the T Belt also while at that point ( 150,000) miles plus. Can I do it myself with the right tools or do you have a diy video on replacement of the T Belt. Like most elderly Americans I'm on a budget. I do have some mechanical knowledge skill to do small repairs.
@FixItPhillip
Жыл бұрын
Yes at that milage yes i would replace the timing belt (also check the water pump and pulleys). If you do the job yourself do allot of research of the procedure. The main thing you need to make sure is that your timing marks are lined up properly. Because this is a interference engine.
Thank you
Nice job
@FixItPhillip
9 ай бұрын
Thank you
Hi there, I'm hearing a similar ish ticking/knocking noise from the engine bay of my 03 CL Type S and it also has a rough start up that just started today. However, when I get the car above 2k rpm, the knocking completely goes away. Do you think it's the tensioner itself that's causing the issue?
Quick diagnosis.
Awesome video. Thank you 🙏
I’ve seen some tensioners made of aluminum others steel for these Hondas. Is there a difference?
@fixitphillip would it cause the vehicle to lose power also?
I changed the timing belt and did a few clockwise turns and noticed that the alignment is about 1-2 teeths off.. Is this normal? I heard that it had to turn 281 times before it gets aligned again.. is that true? No error code, no engine code either.. Just the sound of the engine seems off a bit.. and a very very faint knocking I hear ..
I think that tensioner went out today while driving. Causing me to be stranded throwing up a camshaft postion sensor a. It made that same noise for some time. Till today. Didn't want to turn on.
Thanks for the video Have you used the Aisin brand for a timing bet kit if so whats be your experience with them I have a timing belt job coming up on my to do list and been looking for information/people experience with the Aisin brand kit
@FixItPhillip
4 ай бұрын
I have had good luck with using aisin timing belt/water pump kits on toyotas since allot of toyotas use aisin from factory anyway, I don't believe I have used a aisin kit for a honda yet, but on toyotas I haven't had an issue with aisin's hydraulic tensioners/ pulleys/ or water pumps.
@smittysmitty4681
4 ай бұрын
@@FixItPhillip ok thank you for feedback the provided mishiboshi timing belt is a quality part as well or would a Bando brand timing belt be better ?
Dude thanks for the video, however, as a diy’r I felt pretty good about the fix until you got to the end where you needed to replace the timing cover and crank pulley! I think you need a special crank bolt socket? Maybe if you would give a heads up on details like special tools or disassembly. Thanks anyway, I’ll do further research and see what I need to do as far as getting to the tensioner.
@cooperdobson1471
9 ай бұрын
you don’t need a special socket, 36mm w a strong impact gets it off
@matthewvalentine3549
9 ай бұрын
This can be done without removthe timing cover.
@childofjah120
7 ай бұрын
@@matthewvalentine3549can you point me to a video of this method? Can’t seem to locate and having the same issue.
Thank you for the video. I had a question. After pulling that out what did you do to the belt? I saw it move. Is that some adjustment you need to do?
@user-rj3vw4vo1d
9 ай бұрын
Wanna see this response
@Nabelmar
6 ай бұрын
@@user-rj3vw4vo1d same
I have the exact same noise on my 2013 Honda pilot. I also replaced the timing belt about 12,000 miles ago. I took it to mechanic and he tells me it's the timing belt. The tensioner was not replaced only timing belt. I have a feeling they are trying to scam me as they are trying to charge me $1800 when I already fixed it for $1200 in another city. Since it's the exact same noise i think I'm going to take my chances and just have someone replace the tensioner and hopefully the noise gets fixed.
@jwat8400
Жыл бұрын
Always replace the entire system when doing a timing belt job. The price will be high because of how long it takes to get to the parts
@mikesteven1133
Жыл бұрын
You might be able to swap just the tensioner yourself without replacing anything else look on KZread. There's a way to do it without taking any of the timing covers or anything off
@williamwood6863
Жыл бұрын
@@jwat8400 he’s already replaced it 12k miles ago. Pointless to buy another kit when all he needs is a tensioner
@jwat8400
Жыл бұрын
@@williamwood6863 Yes. However I was saying that for the future, so he wouldn't have to worry about something in the same system so soon.
I have 2 hondas with the ticking noise, 16 Odyssey and 15 Accord V6 both with 85k miles. On both of them though they only tick when the engines cold. Would that be the same thing?
I finally got the crank bolt to break loose finally I can finish this project
Do you have the part number for that tensioner?
Thanks for this detailed video. How long does this tensioner usually last? I have a 2019 Odyssey with 48K miles, and dealership mentioned tensioner is leaking..
@joshk1487
11 ай бұрын
Usually 60 to 100k miles. If it's leaking have new timing kit installed asap
@boltup5566
7 ай бұрын
Similar problem here. Did you get the timing belt and everything replaced?
@aronPru2660
7 ай бұрын
No, I didn't, At 60K miles now. Going to get some recalls done soon, May be will check the tensioner again. Its such a pain we cant trust these stealerships at all. I never saw any proof other than them just saying its leaking
Haha!. The back ground conversations.
Can you replace the tensioner without redoing the timing
My 2006 Acura TL with the 3.2l is making the same exact noise but I can't find the hydrolic tensioner part anywhere just the whole tensioner. Anyone know part number or is this only an issue on the 3.5? It sounds identical though
does that also cause the engine to vibrate? I was on the way to work, my car stall. Shortly after that noise came up
Pls I have sceaina is sounds like noking I need advice sir
sounds the same to me... I still here a knocking noise... I was a little scared also that the belt would slip and throw the timing belt off.
How much would you charge someone to change the tension belt?
Hey I have it’s same motor. How did you do this without removing the crank pulley and belts. I always thought that if you change the tensioner. You should replace the belt. My situation is that the the water pump and components have been replacedd before except for the hydraulic tensioner. Can I do this without removing the every (minus the timing covers)
@FixItPhillip
20 күн бұрын
You have to remove the crank pulley and lower timing cover, I took off the cover and reinstalled the crank pulley to be able to show the issue clearly
Did this trip the knock sensor a p0327 code? My cousin thinks his is rod knock but I think this is the problem.
@FixItPhillip
Жыл бұрын
This vehicle didn't trip that code. But maybe it's possible.
Just a question, when you release the cam belt tensioner with no pressure on the belt, were you not afraid the cams gears might jump and skip teeth?
@FixItPhillip
Жыл бұрын
You just have to be careful. I had to do it 1 handed because the camera was shoved in there lol. It would be safer to use 2 hands so you can manually hold/push the tensioner pulley against the belt so there's minimal slack.
That hostile work environment tho 😂
@FixItPhillip
Жыл бұрын
Bro lol. There's some crazy people. Hard to make a video sometimes lol
@Belizeanbanman
Жыл бұрын
Trust me, I know! 😂😂 thanks so much for the video, exactly what I needed.
Do you need to remove harmonic balancer/crank pulley to do this job or just the timing cover?
@FixItPhillip
9 ай бұрын
Yes serpentine belt. Crank pulley. Then timing cover
@jluc155
9 ай бұрын
@FixItPhillip thank you for the fast response 🙏 💯
06 accord here 135k. My sound is alot lighter. Only occurs when it's a cold start and below 50* the noise goes away after warm up. Sounds like a loud injector or lifter idk.
@kyleohara1949
4 ай бұрын
06 accord with 145k. Same noise on cold starts and goes away when warm. I'm fairly certain mine is the t belt tensioner. I work at a dealership and asked a few seasoned techs. They said to be certain, tear it down and start to verify noise.
The j series 3.7 for Acura TL also has thus ticking sound. What's the best way to determine if this is the case or if it is a worn rocker and cam?
@PawnshopmikeATL
Жыл бұрын
Does Honda j-motor have a cam Love dedicated to power the piston?
@mikesteven1133
Жыл бұрын
Jack up the front of your vehicle take the passenger side tire off, start the engine and carefully feel the timing belt tensioner that sticks out. If it's vibrating it's that
I have a similar knocking in the engine bar near my timing chain area 2012 Honda Accord EXL, but it only does it sometimes when I crank the car first thing in the morning,when it's cold and then once it's warm, the noise goes away. Is that a symptom of timing chain or tensioner?
@JPrez-io6qj
Жыл бұрын
V6 version? If so, possibly the belt. 4 cyc has a chain so that's unlikely to be it - chain issues are rare on the 4 cyc assuming proper oil change. Could always be the serpentine belt/belt tensioner but thats easy enough to check.
@GeetarPsycho
Жыл бұрын
@@JPrez-io6qj yes v6, I had a couple mechanics look at it, they said the timing belt sounds fine, once it's warm, but in the morning it knocks a bit hard but only 45° and below, it'll last 2 to 3 minutes and gradually go away, but when it's 50° or higher there is no noise or knocking.
@JPrez-io6qj
Жыл бұрын
@@GeetarPsycho As a former tech, I'd lean towards one of three items (I can't obviously hear it, but maybe you should upload a video of it?) - but timing belt tensioner, check to see if its wet/listen with a stethoscope, replace. Other areas for cold engine noise/knock is oil pressure/oil delivery - depending on year - vtec solenoid near oil filter has screens that clog and/or valve chatter valve clearance issues. The 3.7s were known for oil delivery issues but those engines were pretty rare.
@GeetarPsycho
Жыл бұрын
@@JPrez-io6qj okay, I'll add a video and tag you in it or post the link here, I'm leaning towards tensioner, my friend and I actually changed the VVT Solenoid spool valve due to it leaking onto the alternator, and changed the valve cover gaskets, and all that.
@GeetarPsycho
Жыл бұрын
@@JPrez-io6qj kzread.infonf3GZhPNR2Q?feature=share
I have a 2016 pilot, when it had 88k on it it was making this noise. It has 89k on it now and it’s not making the noise anymore? What should I do?
@chrisc9085
Жыл бұрын
I think it’s only when engine cold. For example mine isn’t doing in summer months at start up but did winter. I live in California so not even that cold or hot.
My 2019 3.5 passport makes a ticking sound when under load, accelerating 0-10 mph. Could it be timing belt tensioner? Only 20k miles, been hearing it since 10k miles.
@FixItPhillip
8 ай бұрын
That's a newer engine design. And if I'm not mistaken has direct injection (high pressure fuel injectors) which can be a louder tick noise especially under load
Did you remove the crankshaft pulley to remove timing cover?
@FixItPhillip
Жыл бұрын
Yes
@stevenbradley6572
Жыл бұрын
@@FixItPhillip thanks! I figured it out earlier when I noticed that the bottom two bolts for lower timing cover is behind crankshaft pulley.
Hey brother I’m in the middle of this job DIY. I’ve been watching this video and I’m curious does it need to be too dead center before I remove the timing tensioner? Please get back with me thanks
@FixItPhillip
4 ай бұрын
Email me your phone number fixitphillip88@gmail.com
Well crap. 06 Ridgeline sounds like that on cold starts. Sound goes away after warm up. Had the engine swapped for a blow head gasket. Shoo that did the work said they replaced the timing belt, but im not to so sure they did. Looks like im going to have to bench it until I can afford to take it to the shop.
Why does the noise go away after it’s warmed up? I would think if it’s the tensioner it would always make the noise.
On my 2016 acura rdx i have the same exact noise no codes should i just order the new tensioner & adjuster
@sherryprutzman999
Ай бұрын
What sis you end up doing? Because same happening over here.
@2cruddy536
20 күн бұрын
@@sherryprutzman999i used aisin timing kit cost me 242$ & my coworker charged me 300$ to do it , local n acura dealer wanted 6-1200$
Is it common for the knocking to go away after the car has warmed up. Mine seems to go away. It’s also worse on cold mornings, but again goes away after warm up.
@danny82383
11 ай бұрын
Yea
@mikebellagiomusicgaming1893
7 ай бұрын
Yea
@TristanVash38
7 ай бұрын
Yea
@boltup5566
7 ай бұрын
Wish he would answer. Jesus christ.
@GotCha8819
5 ай бұрын
My car makes that sound only in the morning too lol..
Would a worn drive belt make a engine overheat?
@FixItPhillip
10 ай бұрын
The water pump on this engine is driven by the timing belt. Unless the water pump is seized it won't cause it to overheat. And it if it was seized it would burn up/break the belt quickly
At first i was like that seems simlle enough.. then i saw all the stuff u had to put back at the end.
Ive Never designed a Motor or a tensioner for that matter …….. but why not have a serious spring push this vs hydraulic powered piston that can leak!!!! I have a d21 hardbody & all it’s timing guide wear is due to a faulty oil pressure powered timing tensioner Someone needs to make a spring loaded version of THIS
2012 V6 Pilot recently started making a clunking noise (different noise than this one) for 1-2 seconds at start up, usually when cool or cold. Quits immediately… Any ideas? How best to check serpentine tensioner?
@thexflexclan
Жыл бұрын
Check the vtc actuator camshaft those Hondas they have a recall it makes a grinding noise at the startup gets worse on cold 🥶 starts
Whats the abátete that this job go for? Just so I won’t get ripped off?
Is it necessary to do the procedure at minute 5:45? Please answering 😊
I have the same noise but mine is a 2008 3.5 v6 Honda accord and my tensioner is the spring one instead of the hydraulic one. Could it still be the tensioner ?
@FixItPhillip
Жыл бұрын
I doubt it. This issue I showed pertains to the hydraulic style tensioners
@davidnino4196
Жыл бұрын
@@FixItPhillip Olay thank you , I really don’t know what the problem could be then. I don’t wanna end up buying an engine
@lezzeppelin2222
Жыл бұрын
Many people gets confused Hydraulic tensioner Timing belt tensioner You have to know which one was gone bad.
09 accord EXL V6 same noise
Both bolts for the tensioner out outside the black cover ,, why take all the other stuff off ? Can it be done without taking all the other stuff off?
@michaelgallo2723
6 ай бұрын
2008 Honda Accord v6
@FixItPhillip
6 ай бұрын
To release the new tensioner lock pin, also to show where they leak from and how they chatter against the tensioner pulley. Also I've seen them chatter so much it'll damage the tensioner pulley side and need to be replaced as well
@michaelgallo2723
6 ай бұрын
@@FixItPhillip Thank you!
Can this cause alternator to not charge properly , sounds stupid but I’ve been through 3 alternators now
@FixItPhillip
Жыл бұрын
No
@gabrielmichael6238
Жыл бұрын
Perhaps the serpentine belt?
Hi everybody Can I take this part number?
A lot of the 4-cylinder cars don't have timing belts. However, the six cylinders they put them in because their luxury cars. So they found a way to screw people over. At least timing chains were better.
@kyleohara1949
4 ай бұрын
T belts are elastic and can stretch but then go back to their original length/size. Also, no oil lubrication required. Yes the 100k replacements seem like a pain but I think it's worth it. Timing chains stretch over time due to wear and tear, lack of oil changes and they will not go back to original length and cause issues. Elastic vs plastic. Also, timing covers are very involved to remove. Not to mention the huge involvement of chain replacements. Just ask a Ford tech about phaser replacements. That being said, if the chain system is designed well and lasts the life of the car (maintained), then it's a great timing set up to have.
Did you replace belt
@FixItPhillip
Жыл бұрын
No. It had been already replaced less than 10k miles ago
What did you do at the end?
@narekdiesel
9 ай бұрын
Timing belt outer cover
@narekdiesel
9 ай бұрын
Must take off serpentine belt crank pulley and serpentine belt tensioner
If its just the tensioner..do I have to turn the engine? Or was it that you was just testing it?
@FixItPhillip
Жыл бұрын
That was just me testing it. Showing what it sounds like before and after
@honestguysautomotive5421
Жыл бұрын
@@FixItPhillip im sorry..what I meant was..after you put in the new part..I saw that you turned the crank..do I have to do that too?
@FixItPhillip
Жыл бұрын
I would. I turned it clickwise. Just to make sure all slack is taken up before you crank it. So there's no risk of it jumping teeth
@honestguysautomotive5421
Жыл бұрын
@@FixItPhillip ok got it..thank you
When removing the tensioner, is there any risk of asking putting anything out of time?
@alexandernegrete3202
Жыл бұрын
There shouldn’t, just don’t move the belt much
Can this happen on a d15b ?
@miroslawwlo7182
Жыл бұрын
No
Sometimes I don’t know if blame the owner or the car maker for some vehicle issues, my wife has an ‘13 Acura RDX , V6 3.5L ,140k still waiting for something to break down , just maintenance, no problems whatsoever 🤷♂️
@drakec.9327
6 ай бұрын
Timing belt recommended change interval 100k.
@64arguz
6 ай бұрын
@@drakec.9327 I did it myself using genuine Honda parts (“Aisin” timing kit)
But does this cause the engine to die
@FixItPhillip
8 ай бұрын
If the timing belt gets loose it can jump out of timing yes it can die. And can also cause valve damage
Whats the part number?
@FixItPhillip
Жыл бұрын
I would punch in your vin # on a honda dealer parts website just so you can see the exact part # for your vehicle. Or call the dealer and ask them they should give it to you
Is it me or does it still sound loud?
@FixItPhillip
8 ай бұрын
It's hard to tell the difference with the camera microphone. But yes in real life it's wayyy quieter
The question is why are they failing. Someone needs to open it up and determine why.
Might as well do the entire timing job, you're already there
@FixItPhillip
Жыл бұрын
True. But the t belt and water pump was already done on this one super recent. Just had a tensioner failure. But yes if it's due do it all
@chancesmall7026
Жыл бұрын
Maybe customer didn’t have money for entire timing belt job just enough for diagnostic and repair parts and extra labor was prob out his budget after he diagnosed to problem
Sounds like the Idler pulley for the T-Belt may have a bad bearing also.
@FixItPhillip
7 ай бұрын
It sounds like it on the video but it's just the microphone of the camera lol
I heard the timing belt pulley tensioner bearing is a little dry sound you should just change everything timing belt kit so engine last another 100K miles or more. Next time buy a car with timing chain.
Not completely informative, fail to mention you need to remove the shield and crankshaft pulley not an easy job if you don't have the proper tools.
Do you have to take off crank pulley
@FixItPhillip
8 ай бұрын
Yes