I just discovered this channel. It's kind of amazing. I've been on a viewing marathon all day.

@jerrylong5806

2 жыл бұрын

Me too amazing breadth of subjects!

@annascott3542

2 жыл бұрын

No I’m just opposed to bigotry particularly when it’s over something that individuals have no power to change such as skin color, sexual orientation, gender, what country/religion/culture one is born into, etc.

@dukejivetalker7541

Жыл бұрын

its called indoctrination

Just found this channel through UsefulCharts and MythVision. Wow! Now I'm binging on all the videos. Thanks for all of the work to create these videos.

I can't hear this. I saw John Hamer as an intellectual scholar and watched his video lectures for years before finding out he's also a pastor. That's the kind of of pastor I like to listen to. I'm going deaf and don't have the best audio system on my computer, so the problem is on my end not yours, but the volume is low and I'm having trouble trying to listen in. I want to hear what you have to say, I always agree with the concept and appreciate your input toward the topic. Generally speaking, any topic you address reflects my own thoughts. But still... I can't hear this. Is that something you can address in future videos?

@Spellweaver5

2 жыл бұрын

If that's of any help, you can enable subtitles for the video.

@kahnrad1963

2 жыл бұрын

You have to enable auto=generated subtitles. They are good but occasionally misinterpret words.

@derbaerfm

2 жыл бұрын

A workaround for me is a Chrome Extension called Volume Booster.

I am so glad I found this KZread channel. John is an incredible scholar, teacher, and Christian pastor! He truly understands the Gospel. I'm Roman Catholic & pray that some day my Church will become less conservative & more inclusive. In the meantime, Providence has provided Centre Place. May your congregation thrive & grow.

@mysteriousjungalist

2 жыл бұрын

Heretic

@LuisRamirez-vv4dk

Жыл бұрын

The Catholic church is already very accepting. If you don't like it the way it is, you are free to become protestant. I hope the church doesn't change more than it already has.

@HistoryandReviews

Жыл бұрын

@@LuisRamirez-vv4dk all denominations are WRONG

@LuisRamirez-vv4dk

Жыл бұрын

@@HistoryandReviews How so?

@HistoryandReviews

Жыл бұрын

@@LuisRamirez-vv4dk Jesus and the 12 weren’t Christian, weren’t Catholic, weren’t Baptist, weren’t Jehovahs Witness, weren’t Mormon, weren’t Protestant, weren’t Lutheran, etc

Thank you for your incredible work. There are dozens of videos I've watched now and they are among the best I've ever seen that are thoroughly academic while being open minded and progressive without self censoring/self blinding. I really wish I could come to meet John but live in Montreal. Do you have any suggestions of a Montreal community similar to this? Cheers :) 🖖

Paul confirms your interpretation. In Romans 1 Paul specifically says that the pagans "exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones". These were straight men having homosexual sex for kicks. They were not actually homosexual in orientation.

Where did Centre Place’s logo come from? 🌀

Great presentation. Very good points. I see The long introduction passed over the heads of some people in the audience and in the comments. For me it took 2-3 videos like these from different scholars to make my own conclusions. The issue with traditional churches is that they start from a given doctrine and then look for support in scripture instead of taking every book in its context.

My volume is all the way up and still can hardly hear this. Then, the piano music on the outro comes blairing in clear.

What's going on with the audio? They sound like they are whispering.

There are audio problems.

So wish could move there- best COC!

What is the closet group, church or study group like Centre Place in Montreal? I've been incredibly impressed by John's work and am amazed to find someone who shares my obsession with deep historical research as well as a progressive, but not factually blind approach, to controversial or obscure topics. To those who left comments like "I won't watch this because it's wrong" well that is pretty sad. Regardless if you disagree with John's approach to this subject it is academically sound. I listen to people I disagree with as much as I can if they're at least academically sound and doing what they are doing in good faith. I encourage anyone who had a knee jerk reaction to this to consider trying to doing the same. It isn't always easy I can respect and relate to that. There's a lot of right wing and conservative talks I find hard to listen to but if there's something to learn from then there's something to learn from. You can learn from people without completely converting to their worldview if you don't end up feeling like it sits right with you... but how will you ever know what really sits right with your innermost self if you don't keep an open mind? The ego needs to lower its superficial defenses if the inner light of your being is to discern what speaks Truth to it and what does not.

Amazing channel!

which version of bible was joh useing on deuteronomy?

Extremely Gifted lecturer!

the audio is too low

Wish the sound was better, louder but, great video on a tuff topic.

@Qraze69

2 жыл бұрын

Yea, I got it maxed and it's too low

The study the woman in the audience mentioned about correlating homophobic responses and reaction is funny. It reminds me of the better be hot or cold than lukewarm that a lot of Christians say.

Thank you

I notice in his description of the mission of the church he doesn't mention Christ at all.

@markanthony3275

Жыл бұрын

That should tell you everything you need to know...this man is simply another modern pagan cloaked with intellectualism.

@chewyjello1

4 ай бұрын

Y'all are funny

I am a conservative straight believer in the sanctity of marriage in the symbol of man and woman and I must say, this is an excellent video explaining how a culture in its own time may have rules or laws pertinent for its own sake and survival including bias and harmony. This shows how the NT opens up to gentiles and the concept that further insight and revelation such as the NT can open up doors for the previously outcast or marginalized. Indeed proving that further revelation can come to open the minds and the doors for unity and diverse views and cultures. Amazing video, ty for it. Indeed although we may each have our own views of what an ideal or symbol may mean for the sake of unity and respect we each must value another's right to pursue their own values and symbols (including marriage) for the sake of unity and harmony within the context of community and in the interest of the welfare of all. Totally awesome video for the lgbtq and traditional believers to gain a respect for one another just like Israel and Gentiles have also combined in Christianity.

I assume this was pre-recorded in an earlier year?

@n.brucenelson5920

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, Leon. A couple of years ago.

@n.brucenelson5920

2 жыл бұрын

Glad to see you here.

@HamerToronto

2 жыл бұрын

This was recorded in 2018

@ceninant

2 жыл бұрын

I thought these lectures were posted as they were recorded? Love this channel.

@HamerToronto

2 жыл бұрын

Nowadays, we post these as they are recorded. However, we have many lectures in the archives before we livestreamed. We are going through these and adding them to the channel so that people can watch them.

Would there be an argument for considering that homosexuals could be, or had in biblical times, eunuchs? It would fit a separation between the modern interpretation of what homosexuality is and the ancient idea of a man who is not suitable for marriage.

@tiffanyrichards3254

2 жыл бұрын

I never understood why people would draw this conclusion because Jesus is specifically saying that there are those NOT called to marriage...eunuchs...this wouldn't strengthen the gay marriage debate but would remove it. I'm pretty sure he's talking about people born with both parts or those that lost their member.

@youngknowledgeseeker

5 ай бұрын

​@tiffanyrichards3254 Jesus also speaks of people who feel ok to just not get married. They don't have lust for a woman or they feel comfortable simply never marrying or procreating. We can't be certain, but Jesus himself may have been one of these men. The gospels may indicate he was a man who had totally given himself to the service of God, even choosing not to marry to have more freedom to work for God alone.

Dude, the sound!

Essentially essentially essentially essentially

i wouldn't say paul is obsessed with it. the reference in romans does not even to so far as to say it's sinful. rather, he says talks about dishonourable passions and males doing unseemly things with other males. this only corroborates what we already know about roman practices from other sources. i have nothing against homasecsuality in principle, but i'm with paul on this one. i wouldn't even call his description homasecsuality as we know it today since (i think you point out earlier in your presentation) a lot of straight people were using male slaivs and prostitoots for the purpose. if you think of the example of a boy growing up in a christian home, accepting the faith and reaching puberty to find himself attracted to boys instead of girls, not a single word of rom 1 describes him. paul is writing about a different phenomenon, not about secsual orientation as many like to think. yet modern english bibles mistranslate rom 1 to make it sound like paul is against homasecsuality, something he didn't even know about.

@aliceneely2647

2 жыл бұрын

I am not being funny but it is spelled sexuality and sexual

@MusicalRaichu

2 жыл бұрын

@@aliceneely2647 try writing like you suggest and see what happens to your comments.

@carljones7380

2 жыл бұрын

@@MusicalRaichu You write about the bible, and this is how you treat someone who's offering help.

@MusicalRaichu

2 жыл бұрын

@@carljones7380 huh!?

@travisashley2904

2 жыл бұрын

I think what the original poster is saying is that when you write certain words, your comments can get deleted by folks. But I am pretty sure it’s ok to write the words homosexual and prostitution.

Speaking as a gay man who didn't come out until I was over 50. A large reason was being raised as a pastors kid. And having the past I had getting beaten in Jr. High for looking at the others in the shower.

@reepacheirpfirewalker8629

2 жыл бұрын

I feel as though it is better to be with someone, if I can find them to share my life with, if they don't that's okay too.

@baberoot1998

2 жыл бұрын

It is rude to stare at people. It makes them uncomfortable. How can you pretend not to know that? Gay or not gay...that is a standard social norm...that we ALL instinctively know.

@pastorbri

2 жыл бұрын

@@baberoot1998 but its ok for women to I guess? Okaaaayyyyy

@ryanramsey9621

2 жыл бұрын

Nope women do not stare at each other in the shower. That is called voyeurism and is a crime. You deserved to get beaten for looking at guys in the shower. They didn't invite you to check out their naked bodies did they? I don't think they did since you got beat up. That will teach you to only check out dudes that want to be gay with you. I hope you learned your lesson that consent is required to act sexually with anyone.

@baberoot1998

2 жыл бұрын

@@pastorbri You guess? What are you talking about? Who said anything about women staring at each other? Until you acquire better comprehensive reading skills than a third grader...please refrain from commenting. (Just some sound advice, and you're welcome). No one knows what the hell you are talking about.

More people need to listen to this with an open mind. This guy has some amazing points that actually make me more likely to read the bible.

David was the 10th generation from Judah's son, Perez.

6:59 loud and clear compared to 95% of what he says.

The ear-piercing PINGS! XD Wow, its like being strapped to sonar that makes the stock-footage PING! but you know, point-blank against your head. Lul. also ouch.

After a long background and introduction, the Biblical analysis begins around 1:03:00

@thishandleistacken

4 ай бұрын

I would caution against using that timestamp there's stuff before then you may need for context and there is biblical analysis before then that's just when it gets more focused.

Thanks!

@centre-place

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for supporting the channel! We’d love to connect with you in the future, please email us at info@centreplace.ca or join us on our Facebook and Instagram account! Have a wonderful day.

Reading the Bible I appreciated it mentions gay guys and cross-dressers, it’s just more proof that it always has been a thing and always will be. The fear of homosexuality I suspect comes from the patriarchal farming / tribal societies need for offspring and the family matriarchal fear of infidelity and losing resources. I think much of it comes down to tribal psychology. It would be interesting to see lectures on this topic and/or the psychological self-defense mechanisms people use to reaffirm what we already want to believe. Thank you for this lecture. Half-way thru but it’s great and much appreciated. Great channel 👍🏽.

I watched on KZread another pastor (who I will not name) discuss this topic and although he was very careful and generally inoffensive (as he often is), his comments still caused me some concern. He observed that Jesus makes no reference to homosexuality but he (Jesus) also makes no mention of many other things. Does this mean that these other things are permitted or prohibited? The pastor then went on to say; that Jesus makes no mention of paedophilia, so does that mean child abuse is permitted or not? I was somewhat shocked that here in the Twenty-first Century, some still equate a sexual orientation with obvious criminal behaviour.

@tiffanyrichards3254

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think he was referring to homosexuality as being criminal but he was making a very valid and logical point. Saying that Jesus didn't specifically condemn homosexuality therefore it's ok is not a logical argument.

@thechatteringmagpie

2 жыл бұрын

@@tiffanyrichards3254.You are familiar with the Pastor I refer to then?

@pastorbri

2 жыл бұрын

Actually Jesus did mention everything but never LGBT issues as it clearly wasn't a big deal.

@blkbbw8295

Жыл бұрын

@@pastorbri But then what does *Matt 19: 4-5* mean? About marriage being a man becoming one with his wife?

@pastorbri

Жыл бұрын

@@blkbbw8295 matt 19 is a verse on divorce....why are u trying to be pro marriage with a verse on divorce? Bit weird.....also maybe you didn't know this but Jesus is God in human form and God said in the OT marriage was also 1 man and many wives.....so are u calling God a liar for never giving just one definition of what marriage is?

So, in short, the Bible (lev) profits gay sex (the act), and then later, the religions of Judaism and Christianity (Catholic) also forbid gay sex due to their own Traditions. Got it. (Why was this video so long?)

What about Jesus' teaching on Eunachs.........very mystical, and quasi homosexual. Is it not possible that homosexuals have a higher calling????

I've never understood why people read the book of Romans and come away thinking that Paul is condemning homosexuality. What he's actually condemning is bisexuality for the sake of pagan practice and worship. If you read the chapter carefully he's saying that these people were once heterosexuals who left those relationships behind to burn in lusts with one another. Men who left women to be with other men and women who left men to be with other women in order to practice these pagan rituals performed in Rome. Read his words exactly as he wrote them without interpreting it as homosexual romance.

@user-hf8zv7qw4l

Жыл бұрын

lol People in the west will find ways even bending over backwards just to justify their LGBT ideology. There is nothing the Jews and christians in the antiquity had misread about Paul or Gospels or Old Testament about LGBT issue. I mean, wake up. Do you all really think that 1st century religious and super conservative Jews like Jesus who grew up in Israel and Paul who was a strict Pharisee would allow homosexuality, like "Oh men can fck men and women can fck women. Its ok. God of Israel permits it." lol Please... For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.

@markanthony3275

Жыл бұрын

LGBT sexuality is a volitional, addictive, compulsive form of self -soothing behaviour, the same as drug addiction or alcoholism. As an addiction, it is automatically idolatrous...did Jesus say anything about idolatry? Yes he did, he said "You shall have no other gods in my place". This Brian guy is clueless about the Bible and what it says, because he does not have the Spirit of God in him, he has the spirit of darkness , which helps him tell lies to people who want to hear them. There's a reason Jesus constantly said "Repent, for the kingdom of God is near".

@bufboston1

Ай бұрын

@@markanthony3275 You seem to be an expert on the subject.

@markanthony3275

Ай бұрын

@@bufboston1 I have to tell the truth...and the truth is that I was once alienated from God by my sin. What sin was it? Doesn't matter because we are all sinners in need of the salvation of Jesus Christ. Jesus said that adultery starts in the heart and if you even look at a woman with lust...you are guilty of adultery, those are God's Holy standards and we are all guilty. If you really want an expert on the subject check out the Becket Cook show. Becket Cook was a photo set designer in Hollywood and lived as a gay man for twenty years...until Jesus Christ set him free from the death that comes with sin. And now he is straight, and has no inclinations to "return to Egypt" the Biblical phrase for slavery. The message is God loves LGBT people, and alcoholics and drug addicts and gluttons and the vain, liars, thieves , murderers so much...that He sent His only Son Jesus Christ to die for them and pay the price for their sin. Choose repentance...choose to live!

@1:18:00 I looked up abomination and the etymology is basically bad omen!

43:51 the study she mentions is poor science and has never been replicated. The men who showed higher excitement did just that. It was never contextualized whether the excitement was sexual in nature, disgust/stress responses would show up as excitement as well. Secondly her statement on menopause is baffling. There is no way to corroborate what she postulates and being a student of epigenetics what she's talking about is like borderline sci-fi. Genes don't respond to environmental factors in such direct ways, especially on timescales so small. If you want to understand why it's baffling, ask yourself why do men not enter something akin to menopause? We have examples in almost all cultures of grandfathers being fairly involved in their children's childrens lives, so wouldn't the same logic apply? No menopause happens because eggs are expensive from a biological perspective. Look at the reproductive load females bear when measured up to their male counterparts, it's like a full time manual labor job compared to a part time coffeeshop gig. Female reproduction deteriorates on terms of biological dispersal. Resources are better spent on your basic biologic functions and so the incredibly taxing female reproductive system is moth balled. This plays out in terms of number, your average male will produce 500 billion viable sperm cells in his lifetime compare that to 300-400 viable eggs for females. That's viable eggs in total over a lifespan is 300,000 400,000 that is still such a massive dearth it's insane.

@TheOminousBlade

4 ай бұрын

Exactly, when I heard the study I thought “correlation does not imply causation”

I know, as for me, I wouldn’t have sex with an animal even if the animal consented!

@thebeatcreeper

2 жыл бұрын

How would an animal consent ?

@mickbarrett4777

2 жыл бұрын

hahahaha, 2 stomps for yes???

@ozzy5146

2 жыл бұрын

@@thebeatcreeper by enjoying it, by not avoiding it. same logic

@thebeatcreeper

2 жыл бұрын

@@ozzy5146 Creepy .

In my opnion no one really understood Jesus. The mesage he taught was to love and forgive ulitamtwly. Also he tried to teach us how to have our own releationship with God. Also the Gnostic bible was a different Jesus. Mary of Magdala was also a discole of his. Who wrote and new the real teachins of Jesus. Thomas was.the other discple whp wrote a different message.

I’m going to listen to this again and again I have gay family members male and female and I want to be able to defend them probably if needs be thank you

@justinthrash47

2 жыл бұрын

If they ever gain a relationship with Christ. They will be convicted and either choose to deny them and accept themselves or deny themselves and accept him.

@thechatteringmagpie

2 жыл бұрын

I have come back to listen to this lecture a second time. Very insightful.

@gospelofthomas77thpearl22

2 жыл бұрын

You can also send them to my channel & get them to watch Thomas 22. I bow to the Devine in you 🙏🏼

@carlyabush

2 жыл бұрын

This is definitely the most concise breakdown of the so-called “clobber passages” that I have ever watched. He presents sociohistorical context for each of the passages in layman’s terms and makes this knowledge accessible. Thank you for defending your family members. You are courageous.

@kathrynkildow3743

2 жыл бұрын

I think you mean "properly." Want to make sure your loving message is completely understood.

Mr Hamer continues to create insightful, articulate and incredibly knowledgeable discussions and openly invites everyone to attend and yet it seems the man who commented at the 2 hour mark’s soul reason for attending was to quote archaic passages from the Catholic Church, he needs to take a closer look at the activities practiced by some of the echelons of his own religion. I am a straight agnostic male and im ashamed of you for so purposefully raising such unimportant aspect of modern life. This is my first ever comment in ten years of watching KZread. You lot need to relax a lot more or you’ll be obsolete. I am disgusted with your need to clarify such a point in such a manor as yours. Many thanks to mr Hamer

@mickbarrett4777

2 жыл бұрын

Holy shit. I left an almost identical comment.

@mickbarrett4777

2 жыл бұрын

(before seeing this one..i mean)

@thechatteringmagpie

2 жыл бұрын

I think those last few minutes of summarisation by a the presenter and a voice off camera, countered the views put forward by the person you refer to quite well.

@annascott3542

2 жыл бұрын

I so agree and John HANDLED it perfectly. But ya I wanted to ask that prick if he thinks Jesus would approve of pedaphiles being priests and allowed to prey on innocent children of his flock and the church denying justice. That’s not to mention the atrocities of the previous century of countless unmarried pregnant or problem women in the British isles being locked away in convents and having their Children brutally and ruthlessly taken from them by nuns and sold, or in the case of death dumping dead babies in unmarked graves and never telling the mother nor getting consent in either occasion. And before that pogroms, mass murder in South America, the Middle East to name only a couple, fomenting wars, massive institutional corruption & greed, and on and on and on!! Btw his argument was lame anyway, the fact that it’s written in the gospels that Jesus attended a couple weddings is completely insufficient evidence to then claim that he would disapprove of homosexuality. All that tells us is that the gospel writers wrote that he attended a couple weddings, and that the person who wrote it might have meant to imply that Jesus supported marriage. Nothing more.

@jansteinvonsquidmeirsteen2256

2 жыл бұрын

@@annascott3542 Actually, in another lecture in celebration of "sexual diversity day (or some such)", he takes a historic overview of sexualities wherein he felt the need to matter-of-factly mention ancient Grecco pederasty as just another sexual practice, as opposed to a reflection of the depths to which slave-based societies reach. Now before someone is quick to accuse me of being a repressed "back-street boi", I need to mention that I had and am against making sexual subalterns the brunt of violence and derision. At the same time, in a climate where individuals get their site blocked for their postulates on the flat earth and where "drag queen reading hour" is greeted without the batting of an eye for fear of being seen as a hate monger, it became clear that the norming sexual deviance was part of a greater inversion agenda that at its core is satanic. I've raised my concerns in some typical librul circles and there is never any response. I suppose they're too busy feeling good about themselves hating on the Orange Clown while smothering themselves. I haven't been able to bring myself to listen to anything offered from this forum after listening to the whole lecture on sexualities. I actually unsubscribed today and only came here to read the comments. A final note, which takes us back to the world before the rise of Islam and Byzantium. Gibbon in his Fall and Decline of the Roman Empire, to which I've listened in part here on YT, notes that part of the rise in popularity of Christianity even before Nicea centered around this matter of sexual slavery, how Christianity among the commoners became a weapon resisting the enslavement of adults and children. I don't consider Gibbon a Bible thumper, which is what made his observation all the more indelible.

What about the story of Jesus healing the Centurion's servant as a possible instance of him ignoring likely homosexual activity? (Matt.8:5-13; Luke 7:1-10) I'm referring specifically to the Greek words 'pais' and 'doulos', and to the concept of the 'body slave'.

@pastorbri

2 жыл бұрын

homophobics ignore that

@tjwhite1963

2 жыл бұрын

@@pastorbri I'm sure you're right.

@pastorbri

2 жыл бұрын

@@tjwhite1963 its part of the disorder of homophobia to ignore things.

@LuisRamirez-vv4dk

Жыл бұрын

@@pastorbri More like lgbtq misinterpret that to fit their own views. Homosexuality is clearly condemned in the bible.

@pastorbri

Жыл бұрын

@@LuisRamirez-vv4dk No be honest, its clearly like you homophobics misinterpret that to fit their own views. Homophobia is clearly condemned in the bible. Sorry. You need to repent. Or do you wanna be in hell for a lost eternity?

The Bible is non void as regards to homosexuality.

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Did anyone ever wonder about the holy ghost coming upon the virgin Mary in the middle of the night. It could have been her earth father and the child concieved that became man and lived among mankind was a Jewish homosexual who knew his destiny who lead to the cross for speaking about all peoples loving one another. A very different message thought by the chosen people and their purpose for their existence among the fallen peoples of the monotheistic God YHWH.

So, im trying to figure out what Hamer does believe, because it seems all of his efforts are towards simply discrediting or challenging the bible's validity and/or message. Why bother with any of it? What is the purpose of Christ? I.e. You need no saving because there is no sin you cant absolve yourself of by simply beating the text until it says what you want it to.

@victorslyvester8977

4 ай бұрын

U can see it ryt

@mrsatire9475

3 ай бұрын

He is a pastor, bible scholar and historian. The problem you are having is the bible does not say what you want it to.

You do not mention Luke 7.1-10: The Healing of the Centurion's Servant. Is it too shocking in virtue of concerning not only an unmistakably same sex relationship, but also an 'intergenerational' one? One moreover which Luke's Jesus affirmed. Thank you for the upload.

"Secret Gospel of Mark" legit or more bs fanfic about Jeezus?

For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 😊

@LuisRamirez-vv4dk

Жыл бұрын

Thats already happening. The bible condemns homosexuality.

@DIBBY40

Жыл бұрын

Doctrine divides. Doctrines are mental idols that stop one loving God and other people.

Lesson learned is that there is mayhem when man tries to play God/speak for God rather than minding our own business and loving our neighbor. All scripture is beneficial for teaching but that doesn't mean it's all teaching what to do more so it shows what mankind has done in the past and the outcomes. For example, man elaborates on God's law and it becomes oppressive due to his own opinions feeding into it. The Bible was not written by God but rather by fallible mankind trying to do what they think God wants and just doing thier best.

@pastorbri

2 жыл бұрын

yes it goes mental when we play homophobia for God, it never works out well

1:36:27

If we deified church tradition, we would still be buying indulgences. It is true that slavery was fine with the church for many centuries. It is also true that there has been plenty of corruption within church denominations over the centuries. I think the present day church still has problems to confront.

Sexual orientation is present at birth. I am homosexual. I speak from experience. I assumed everyone was normatively homosexual, and that procreation was a sacrifice certain homosexuals made for the continuance of the species. This was how my young mind thought. Then I was told homosexuality is bad. That was devastating news, and that news engendered a new perspective. Something is wrong with me. I felt self-conscious, ashamed, insecure. Then I tried to fix it as my psychological malaise came to its apex. It was either the priesthood, to sanctify it out of me, or the military, to "virilize" it out of me. Nine years of college for priesthood was out of the question, so I chose the latter. Ironically, it turned out that I came out while in the military and explored the gay social scene, usually through bars. I finally left religion in 1980, at 20, and never looked back. I left because of its homophobia. I chose ME, and the choice was easy for me. In the words of Frost, I took the road less traveled by and that has made all the difference! Know yourself. Love yourself, for God is within you. Then love your neighbor as yourself. It is love, a connecting state of consciousness, that fulfills the law. Even Paul, who purportedly spoke out against homosexuality, states this, if I have not love I am nothing, loving your neighbor fulfills the law. James also chimes in with the same words, and furthermore makes the association of not loving your neighbor with the sin of partiality. Paul's mentions of homosexuality are either the result of tampering with his letters, or the result of misrepresenting his original thoughts. Paul understood that the kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, a preoccupation with externals. Rather, he realized that it is about righteousness, peace and joy, all of which proceed from a circumcised heart, a transformed mind. Transgenderism is another matter altogether! Transgenderism is born out of intolerance, a society that says males must behave this way, and females must behave that way. Gender cannot be pigeonholed. There is no correct male-female behavior. What is correct, is that you be yourself. Conclusion, when people learn that the highest wisdom is for you to be you as you are, then you will not have people thinking that they're anatomically incorrect. Transgenderism disappears when love appears. BE YOU!!!

I enjoyed some of your lectures, you're a good presenter. Unfortunately you channel also seems to censor comments, which is unfortunate, because I had some critique about this presentation, posted in a very civil manner, which is nowhere to be found. So in essence, you are doing the same thing that Socrates accusers did to him. How do you want to find the truth if you ban arguments that don't fit your current opinion? You can't.

@centre-place

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting. Please note KZread automatically holds many comments for review and at the moment we don't have the capacity to manually approve these.

This appears deliberately ignorant to me. Jesus clearly teaches that fornication is wrong, and marriage is between a man and a woman. So even without any specific judgement towards homosexuality, it would still nessecarily be fornication.

@MusicalRaichu

2 жыл бұрын

The scope of the word sometimes translated "fornication" is disputed but the main thrust seems to be about prostitooshon. It's unclear whether it included male-male prostitooshon in scope. Jesus does not "clearly teach" that marriage is man and woman. I think you'll have trouble supporting such a claim. He simply talks about marriage as it was then. Same-secs marriage was not mainstream in the roman world, and perhaps never happened at all in his country. However, he never said "two men/women must not be married or else it's a mortal sin". That's a modern idea that developed less than 40 years ago by the church to try to justify its continued oppression of a vulnerable minority group in the face of the rest of society repenting from its attitudes towards them.

@yevsey169

2 жыл бұрын

@@MusicalRaichu...... In the last 40 years..... What in the world are you smoking

@MusicalRaichu

2 жыл бұрын

@@yevsey169 Yes, before that the general public did not support it so it was never an issue. It's only after research showed that it was viable and even then it took time for the public to start getting on board. By then it was the 80s. Unfortunately also by then the church had conned itself into thinking that same-secs attraction was a terrible sin because of the infamous mistranslation, so that they had to come up with a reason why same-secs marriage could be wrong. So they invented arguments such as "definition of marriage", "God's plan for mankind", "complementary-ism". This was probably around the late 80s, at least that's when I started hearing them. Of course these ideas were developed by reading things into the Bible that it doesn't say, e.g., Jesus said "a man marries a woman and it should be treated as permanent", so the church twisted to mean "a man must only ever marry a woman or else they'll go to helI for it." Look through Bible commentaries published before the 80s. Do you find any such arguments or ideas? There was one guy, John Gill who mentioned something heading in that direction a couple of centuries ago, but that's all I've found.

@pastorbri

2 жыл бұрын

not really as even God doesn't define marriage one way, in the OT for example God calls marriage 1 man and many wives.

@BlueSquareInWhiteCircle

5 ай бұрын

I hoped this video would bring some insight and not simply be cultural relativism combined with deconstruction as this channel has been insightful on other videos. But I get it from it’s progressive leanings and framing. What I hoped for was for a textual honest approach on subjects surrounding nephesh the soul in the blood, menstruation, Onan and other ancient hebrew concepts surrounding holyness- set apartness, cleanliness, procreation, genesis commandments, body as a temple, made in the image of God. As in not what modern readers want the text to say but what contemporary readers might have understood the texts as. But I guess he stated that he knows latin and not hebrew, maybe better to find a Rabbi

1. Leviticus 18:22 - Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. 2. Leviticus 20:13 - If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. What does the presenter of this video find difficult to understand about the Biblical texts quoted above ?

@Coolguyallthetime2k

Жыл бұрын

If you pick up 5 different translations of the Bible, or different years of the same Bible you will see how different those verses he mentioned are read across the board (for example "The Jérusalem Bible 1966 to the Jérusalem Bible 1985; Tim 1 went FROM -> immoral with women or with boys or with men, for liars and for perjurers TO-> promiscuous, homosexuals, kidnappers, for liars and for perjurers) which makes no sense. Why is there so much discrepancy in these verses? Because they are taking there best guess, which means one cannot make conclusions and condemn a group of people based on a spotty conclusion. Also, there is overwhelming evidence that Leviticus is also referring to pederasty or more likely incest as it relates to idolatry and sacrificial practices and not simply men with men. Especially, when you look at the context of that section and the other points mentioned before and after it. Also, why would it say "men and male" instead of "men and men". The original Hebrew used two distinct terms to identify two types of males (older and younger). Also, you must consider the context and it's relation to the Roman types where pederasty was widespread and accepted. I may not agree with it, but the evidence is pretty compelling and I stay neutral on the topic most of the time but I have to speak up because this misinterpretation is hurting that community. Once you learn Hebrew, it's clear that that homosexuality should not have been a translation for those terms. Using the Greek text as reference causes a ton of this confusion, especially since so many translations have been consumed by the masses and it's difficult for them to realize that some of the text they read should not have made there way in to begin with.

@markanthony3275

Жыл бұрын

@@Coolguyallthetime2k Let me add the part that every pro LGBT "pastor" or "christian" somehow neglects to mention. LGBT sexuality is a form of volitional, addictive , compulsive, self soothing behaviour. ALL addictions are automatically IDOLATROUS. Did Jesus say anything against IDOLATRY ? Yes he did, he affirmed the commandments the first of which is "You shall have no other gods in my place". Therefore, Jesus did speak against LGBT sexuality and every other addiction, alcoholism, drug addiction, gambling addition, gluttony, shop-a-holism, exercise-a-holism , vanity etc etc etc.

@Coolguyallthetime2k

Жыл бұрын

@@markanthony3275 Addictive and self-soothing lol what? Your making some pretty wild assumptions about a group of people. Have you slept with one to know of these addictions because that’s the only way you would truly know?… Anyway, I never said I was pro LGBT, I was just pointing out the scholarly research. Something that Christian’s don’t do because they aren’t allowed to question anything. And after thoroughly researching the Bible, I can assure you that it is a man made story with lovely lessons within. I also still read it just as I do the Iliad and the Odyssey. God is real, but religion is a fallacy. No need for further rebuttal.

@markanthony3275

Жыл бұрын

@@Coolguyallthetime2k I'm not making any assumptions , I simply restated what 100 years of medical science and psychiatry have established as found in the book "Homosexuality and the Politics of Truth" by Dr. Jefrey Satinover. Also in that book are quotes from eyewitnesses who were at the 1973 American Psychiatric Association's annual convention ,when outsider gay activists stormed the meetings , grabbed the microphone and threatened the assembly unless they agreed to host a panel on homosexuality, but the panel had to be made up of homosexuals. Gay insiders at the top of the APA, had partnered with the National Gay Task Force to subvert the APA and turn it into a platform for the advocacy of homosexuality with the goal of normalizing all "paraphilia's" ( the psychiatrist's word for sexual perversions). The ultimate goal being the normalizing of "pansexuality"...every kind of sexuality for everybody including pedophilia, incest, necrophilia and bestiality. LGBT sexuality is just another form of addiction and is not equal to heterosexuality...especially in terms of lifespans, diseases, depression, anxiety and suicide etc. ( San Fran, the most LGBT affirming urban centre, has the highest rate of teen suicide by gay teens). It is evident by your post that you are uninformed about this topic.

@dguilbault4547

4 ай бұрын

So you live your life according to what some Cannanites (early jews) wrote about 2800 years ago? How ignorant. The hundreds of contradictions and anachronism in the bible prove it cannot be the word of God. Only someone stupid or brainwashed would not recognize this fact

Jesus will be revealed and they will reunite him with his John his Love..

Aside from better understanding ancient myths, why should anyone take seriously what biblical texts promote? Egyptian myths endured for centuries until reality rendered them irrelevant within more modern times. Clock is ticking for Judaism / Christianity / Islam etc etc.

@user-hf8zv7qw4l

Жыл бұрын

Billions of people believe in the Bible and Quran. Just deal with it.

@Patrick77487

Жыл бұрын

Billions of people fear death/ unknowns, thus religions.

Most of you talk about Jesus saying but it was GOD that said marriage is for man and women. Not 2 men or 2 women. God was even against divorce, Moses did that. As the bible tells you watch out for people in sheep's clothing.

@walterchristley4898

2 ай бұрын

"There is neither male nor female... but all are one in Christ Jesus." Remember: "the letter of the law kills, the spirit of the law gives life. " Stop judging and condemning others and look to your own salvation, the way Jesus teaches you.

I mean to visit Toronto just t participate in such lectures

You don't talk about sex in public. Public is a shared place for all and we need a new language for it. That solves all these issues.

My brother, your argument holds weaker ground. You are portraying the priest as if they belong to some alien cult with laws exclusive to them. Discussing sex in public is generally frowned upon, as it is considered a private matter between individuals and should remain as such. It is important to shield a child's impressionable mind from such discussions. Sex education in schools is often associated with Western culture and is seen as a norm, but it's actually a super NEGATIVE. It is advisable to confine all discussions related to sex to appropriate circles, which applies to all forms of sexual activities. FREE UP THE AIRWAYS FROM DESIRES AND FOCUS ON THE HEAVENS, Thats what Church is for, you go there to leave world for a bit and reconfigure.

@dguilbault4547

4 ай бұрын

Chinese bot?

@atifbangash

4 ай бұрын

No bro, I just grew up in a culture where people never spoke about sex in public at any level. It was mostly discussed behind closed doors cause it has an element of privacy about it. No one was giving sex education. @@dguilbault4547

The person at 1:26:00 is clearly into animals lol

Wow, spending time to discredit the Bible. You can't worship Yahweh or Yeshusa, so who is your god?

@cult2occult897

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, spending time Trolling a video that is actually trying to learn about what the Bible truly says. You can't possibly be here to actually learn something about the Bible, so how can u claim to believe in it?

@johnkountouris3288

Жыл бұрын

You can not expect other people to buy your idea of god forcing them to like pussy if they dont like it...

@thishandleistacken

4 ай бұрын

If by "discredit the Bible" you mean discussing how it was written by multiple people over a long period of time and often not by the people it says it was written by that's what you'll learn in your first year of seminary school or any reputable university class on Biblical History regardless how conservative. I've watched many of John's videos and I'm willing to bet he spends more time appreciating The Bible and Christianity than you likely do and he's been doing it with absolutely dedication for decades.

Poor Paul. He's a queen

@user-hf8zv7qw4l

Жыл бұрын

Billions of people believe Paul though. I think we have to pity LGBT. They bend over backwards just to convince people that what they do is okay for the God of Israel and they are still not accepted by majority of people. Poor LGBT. 😂

Was that woman insinuating that more people want to have sex with men because of the X chromosomes??? Men only have ONE X chromosome. Hey not ALL women like having sex with men. So no, that theory doesn’t work. Women can not want to have sex with men and can actually be a lesbian. Women have TWO X chromosomes , so I’m quite sure that doesn’t make you want to have sex with men. Lesbians always get discounted. The gospel of Philip mentions two women having sex as well, stating a woman couldn’t impregnate another woman…not that it was wrong but just impossible which was also not mentioned. Which is wild because you always mention the gnostic gospels and other texts that aren’t in cannon, and I’m so sure if it had been written two men couldn’t procreate yet said nothing wrong of it, it would have been mentioned.

Homophobia was always the real sin

@user-hf8zv7qw4l

Жыл бұрын

Said by God named Pastor Brian.

i am gonna bet.. you have an ultra progressive view that undoes 2000 years of reality.

A new paradigm of ideas.

Eggs came first. A proto-chicken laid an egg with a mutation that produced a chicken.

What came first, the hen or the egg? The Bible's answer to that is: The rooster.

Paul in Romans 1:22: "Men and women of Jerusalem! Heed the telltale signs of corruption! When your son leaves the house, does he look at other boys with sinful desire?!" (Jerusalem City needs a boys' band.) :-)

How dare you make any of Gods creatures feel bad about themselves. Man wrote the Bible. God made man.

God the father is the only man who is ordained to sire life. The only snake

I don't think homosexuality is normal or at least beneficial. If there was a choice for them, why not choosing something thats less contentious? Afterall, it's the pleasure or love they you're after.

I disagree on the languages part...science has proven via genetic testing that we all came from one man and one woman (Adam and eve according to the bible) so how did they communicate if it wasn't via one language?!?

@normative

2 жыл бұрын

(1) That's not how speciation works, and (2) There's no reason to think the first homo sapiens had anything resembling a fully developed language in the sense we think of it today. Probably they pointed and grunted quite a lot.

@normative

2 жыл бұрын

Ah, OK, a little searching suggests this is something confused young-earth creationists have tried to promote. It is emphatically not true, and seems to be the result of people with very little science education completely misunderstanding the concept of the "most recent common ancestor." This does not mean there was some "original human couple."

I thought y'all was atheist just showing all the faults and evil in the bible

The sound man needs to be fired.

We could argue the Jesus did have a positive view of same sex relationships. We see in Matthew 8 Jesus cure the beloved slave of a centurion. In that time, a centurion would have a male slave for the heavy work required by a leader of an army. Ironically, the Catholic Church uses the statement the centurion makes to Jesus, about him not being worthy of Jesus entering his house in their statement of faith. Matthew 8:8 “The centurion replied, ‘Sir, I am not worthy to have you under my roof; just give the word and my servant will be cured

@QuatMan

2 жыл бұрын

The Bible does not characterize the centurion and slave as being in a same sx relationship. For gai theology to work, you have to throw out what is actually written and place your own narrative on top of it.

@gospelofthomas77thpearl22

2 жыл бұрын

@@QuatMan so the centurions would risk his position & life for the sake of a slave he ‘liked’? Unlikely. The language tells you he ‘loved’ the slave - a centurion only had male slaves to do hard lifting, cleaning of horses etc. it’s a fact of history, not subjective.

@QuatMan

2 жыл бұрын

@@gospelofthomas77thpearl22 The truth is you were not there 2000 years ago and you have no idea why the centurion saved the slave, since the Bible does not say. Perhaps the slave was his bastard son. Maybe the slave was good at his job. Perhaps the centurion was in love with the slave's mother. Perhaps the centurion was just a decent person. We also have historical accounts of all of these different scenarios being not uncommon throughout history wherever slaves have existed and are all possibilities as well, since the Bible itself does not refer to the slave as the centurion's lover. The hmosxual tendency to superimpose hmosxuality on regular behaviors and history, particularly when there is no record of hmosxuality , is almost funny....almost...

@gospelofthomas77thpearl22

2 жыл бұрын

@@QuatMan you appear to be homophobic by giving every other possibility other than the obvious one. It was very common for men to have relationships with other men - the Romans were known for their sexual openness. Paul refers to this in his letters to the Romans. No, I’m not supporting Paul’s position on this - he wrote those things because he was trying to prove he was not against the Law, which the Jewish Christians accused him of. Supposing you are right about the centurion, do you really think Jesus would condemn gay relationships? He died for everyone, not just heterosexual people. Love is love. The Law the Jewish people were/are bound to was squashed by Jesus who saw it as a tool for control & self-deprecating. He knew that the spirit is above the flesh & to allow what the flesh desires to hinder its growth is a travesty. This is what His sacrifice was about, and yet you fundamentalists keep going back to the Law that He destroyed for us. You people are the problem, not the LGBTQI community.

@pastorbri

2 жыл бұрын

@@QuatMan Homophobics have always done that

You are wolf

The Bible condemns homosexuality and there is no way around that.

@johnkountouris3288

Жыл бұрын

The bible also condems a lot of things Im sure you turn a bkind eye to... shelfish and pork... wearing mixed fabrics.

@LuisRamirez-vv4dk

Жыл бұрын

@@johnkountouris3288 We are allowed to eat pork. We are Christians, we do not follow Jewish dietary laws.

@johnkountouris3288

Жыл бұрын

@@LuisRamirez-vv4dk Christ said that he did not come back to abolish the laws of the old prophets but to fufill them. The bible does have meaning in context but these passages refute the idea that the old law is seperate. These passages on human sexuality come from a divine being? Maybe... either way seems trivial. The people will cherry pick which ones to folow. A fundamentalist of today may seem like a man living in sin to the Christians of yester year....

@LuisRamirez-vv4dk

Жыл бұрын

@@johnkountouris3288 He also said it's not what goes into the mouth of man that is evil but what comes out of it. There is a reason Jews were given certain rules at a certain time. You clearly do no understand the bible very well. If we want to go by the old testament, it also condemns homosexuality. Have a nice day sir.

@johnkountouris3288

Жыл бұрын

@@LuisRamirez-vv4dkmaking arguments to adhere to adhere to some scripture and not others while condeming others for being homosexual is an illogical standpoint, that is the point.

It is amazing how much pro homosexual pastors will go to great lengths to deny and twist what the bible says about homosexual acts. The bible specifically says that it is wrong and an abomination. You can't twist that.

Your premise that the Bible got it wrong in describing the earth as flat and therefore it's writers could also be wrong about homosexuality is in fact Totally Wrong. Writers of the Bible got the geometry of earth exactly right: Isa 40:22 "circle of the earth", Prov. 8:27 "He inscribed a circle on the face of the deep", Job 26:10 "He has compassed (circle) the waters with bounds"

@pastorbri

2 жыл бұрын

but the bible never even mentions homosexuality

@elibainbridge1326

2 жыл бұрын

@@pastorbri Geneis 19, Leviticus 18:22 20:13, 1 COrinthians 6:9, 1 Timothy 1:10 - study these verses and use some common sense as to what the writers are talikng about.

@pastorbri

2 жыл бұрын

@@elibainbridge1326 same old lies.....levitical law is dead! Well...so God said in the NT but homophobics do have aa habit of ignoring anything God says. 1 cor 6;9 I assume u used a modern bible as only modern bibles slyly add the word homosexuals in the list of sins which paul never did, assume u agree it is also ok to add to Gods word yes? Seems u have no idea what Paul was on about at all.

@juliankennedy6525

Жыл бұрын

The earth is not a circle either.

@elibainbridge1326

Жыл бұрын

@@juliankennedy6525 take a look at some pics of planet earth taken from space.... What shape best describes the pics? square? lol

This will be the last if this guy's ''talks'' I listen to.

@mind.archives.

Жыл бұрын

Why?

@kazman_6899

5 ай бұрын

Nah, he good. He very, very good.

@thishandleistacken

4 ай бұрын

Quite sad. Even if you disagree with his approach it is academically sound. I listen to people I disagree with constantly if they're at least academically sound and doing so in good faith. I encourage you to consider doing the same. It isn't always easy I can respect and relate to that. There's a lot of right wing and conservative talks I find hard to listen to but if there's something to learn from then there's something to learn from. You can learn from people without completely converting to their worldview if you don't end up feeling like it sits right with you... but how will you ever know if you don't keep an open mind what will sit right with your innermost self? The ego needs to lower its superficial defenses if the inner light is to discern what speaks Truth to it.

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I love how he uses the acronym LGBTQIA+ unironically at the beginning!! Only in Canada!!

@ethanstiles948

2 жыл бұрын

I like how you unironically made this comment. Only on the internet.

The Bible is the clear word of God. Get wisdom from it.

@pastorbri

2 жыл бұрын

yes homophobia is a sin

@DIBBY40

Жыл бұрын

The letter kills. It is the spirit that gives life.

Leviticus 20:13 is followed as seriously as the rest of the commandments and it is as up to date and interpreted the same as the rest of the clearly stated commands, what are you talking about? You can not lay with a man as a woman. Lay means sex. Now instead of trying to change the meaning of the English and Greek, maybe you can try go back to the original Hebrew and see if the Greeks translated it wrong

@pastorbri

2 жыл бұрын

Actually Gods word in the NT says these old laws are all dead, he said so almost 40 times so why support an old dead law anyway no matter what it means and lesbians get no law so are they OK?

@mikemegame1

2 жыл бұрын

@@pastorbri That's protestant propaganda to get away with doing the wrong thing. The 10 commandments stand. Jesus preached to do his father's work. You don't get into heaven just because you asked forgiveness before you die after gaming the system your entire life. But you are correct Jesus said love thy brother. Jesus was never anti gay That's one of the rabbinic codes. However the new covenant freed freed us from Vengence and blood sacrifice. The pharacies scribes and sadduccies. Idk. What do you think specifically? I can't remember

@pastorbri

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikemegame1 Actually what you say is religious propaganda.....Catholics are as bad as protistants on this.....God said the old law is all gone, so if u know better than God, good luck. And no you do need more than forgiveness to get to Heaven, you need to be cleaned by the blood of Jesus, assume you disagree?

@mikemegame1

2 жыл бұрын

@@pastorbri where does it say that God said the old law is gone? I do not believe the 10 commandments are gone.

@pastorbri

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikemegame1 The law is an unbearable yoke. (Acts 15:10) The law reveals sin but cannot fix it. (Romans 3:20) If the law worked then faith would be irrelevant. (Romans 4:14) The law brings wrath upon those who follow it. (Romans 4:15) The purpose of the law was to increase sin. (Romans 5:20) Christians are not under the law. (Romans 6:14) Christians have been delivered from the law. (Romans 7:1-6) The law is good, perfect and holy but cannot help you be good, perfect or holy. (Romans 7:7-12) The law which promises life only brings death through sin. (Romans 7:10) The law makes you sinful beyond measure. (Romans 7:13) The law is weak. (Romans 8:2-3) The strength of sin is the law (1 Corinthians 15:56) The law is a ministry of death. (2 Corinthians 3:7) The law is a ministry of condemnation. (2 Corinthians 3:9) The law has no glory at all in comparison with the New Covenant. (2 Corinthians 3:10) The law is fading away. (2 Corinthians 3:11) Anywhere the law is preached it produces a mind-hardening and a heart-hardening veil. (2 Corinthians 3:14-15) The law justifies nobody. (Galatians 2:16) Christians are dead to the law. (Galatians 2:19) The law frustrates grace. (Galatians 2:21) To go back to the law after embracing faith is “stupid”. (Galatians 3:1) The law curses all who practice it and fail to do it perfectly. (Galatians 3:10) The law has nothing to do with faith. (Galatians 3:11-12) The law was a curse that Christ redeemed us from. (Galatians 3:13) The law functioned in God’s purpose as a temporary covenant from Moses till John the Baptist announced Christ. (Galatians 3:16 & 19, also see… Matthew 11:12-13, Luke 16:16) If the law worked God would have used it to save us. (Galatians 3:21) The law was our prison. (Galatians 3:23) The law makes you a slave like Hagar. (Galatians 4:24) Christ has abolished the law which was a wall of hostility (Ephesians 2:15) Paul considered everything the law gained him as “skybalon” which is Greek for “poop”. (Philippians 3:4-8) The law is only good if used in the right context. (1 Timothy 1:8) (see next verse for the context) It was made for the unrighteous but not for the righteous. (1 Timothy 1:9-10) The law is weak, useless and makes nothing perfect. (Hebrews 7:18-19) God has found fault with it and created a better covenant, enacted on better promises. (Hebrews 8:7-8) It is obsolete, growing old and ready to vanish. (Hebrews 8:13) It is only a shadow of good things to come and will never make someone perfect. (Hebrews 10:1) Jesus now only gives us 2 laws.

False teaching

Who ever employed this man needs to be arrested,how can you hire someone so boring and seems He didn't prepare for this video or event,He is not serious.

@catherinemarygrandjean5572

2 жыл бұрын

Looking at all offerings For centreplace..lovely presentations...inclusive Orientation is very helpful. Embracing all is the only way we can move forward as humans.. what matters is true understanding and respect as well as clarification of sexual practice

@catherinemarygrandjean5572

2 жыл бұрын

Slide for Sodam and Gommora should say 720 and after

@juliankennedy6525

Жыл бұрын

I look forward to your great body of learned presentations.

@kazman_6899

5 ай бұрын

Really? He has one of my favourite voices and dispositions of anyone. He's also never condescending or didactic. The least of any scholar I've ever heard; minimal ego. It gives you the feeling that we're all learning together. Great guy.

The pamphlet at the subway might be because of a Christian concern with natural law.

Rabbinical Priests would have had their wives working through them and reminding them of the needs of women. Women have traditionally always held domestic power. Men may not be able to understand what it is like to be a woman but one cannot assume they would not have their needs in mind.

good luck trying to spin this one. LGBTQ christians lol

@johnkountouris3288

Жыл бұрын

Not any more rudiculous what the Christians themselves spin time and time again...