"player is required to farm essence" is so funny its like the person who left the review watched a low% true ending and followed it to do his first playthrough

@dragondude7107

2 жыл бұрын

Ohhhh, you’re probably right now that I think about it

@postonian425

2 жыл бұрын

i personally think they meant GEO not ESSENCE but just messed up the words and accidentally made it sound like something else that actually ALSO exists in the game

@sanskarjain3564

2 жыл бұрын

@@postonian425 Geo is never even an issue tho You beat bosses and explore just a bit and you have enough geo to buy everything

@fizzou

2 жыл бұрын

He just watched Skurry's video xD

@ninolloydbandiola5581

2 жыл бұрын

@@sanskarjain3564 ngl it was a real big issue for me when i first played it, took me about a week to get the lantern but on my second playthrough, i realized it was because i was too scared to fight enemies lol, skill issue

I spent my first 2 hours of play walking around forgotten crossroads, having somehow missed false knight, quit the game and told the friend who recommended it that it was bad since there was only 1 accessible area. I was convinced to give it another try, and have played it almost 500 hours. 9/10 game, remove primal aspid for 10/10

@EricBlanchBrines

2 жыл бұрын

for me was different beat false knight and everything in sight in 30min and then spent 5 h looking for greenpath i got anoyed and leave for 7 months and then i told to me im am dumb or what? why haven't i beat yeat hollow knight "160h with pantheon 5 completed"

@pexygate

2 жыл бұрын

I even spent 6 hours in crossroads on my first playthrough because I couldn't defeat false knight and thought, there was a power-up hidden somewhere. Eventually beat him and got vengeful spirit of course. Had real fun once I watched fireb0rns Any% speedrun for the first time and saw him break the wall at false kight after the first tantrum. I felt really dumb 😂

@MatthewBouyack

2 жыл бұрын

In my first playthrough I beat false knight, but missed picking up vengeful spirit. Ended up farming geo to get the lantern (thinking I had to go into Crystal Peaks) before a friend commented, "Dude, how come you never use magic?" and I responded, "There's magic in this game!?"

@St4rStormy

2 жыл бұрын

same, played the game back in 2017 on my xbox, didn't get to greenpath, ALSO missed false knight, rage quit. In 2020 I bought the game on steam after seeing a bit of Merg's playthrough, and now I've got 180 hours on the game.

@BDRmongoose

2 жыл бұрын

I had a similar experience to Salt and Sanctuary. I quit because it was to hard/I sucked. Fortunately I gave it another try last year, and I loved it.

Guys, Elden Ring is just "pretending" to be a good game. It "masked" its flaws for 250 hours of my game time. Trust me, it's the best bad game I've played XD

@prestoncard6721

2 жыл бұрын

I mean, jokes aside, I constantly shit on how bad a game Skyrim is, between funky physics, game breakung bugs/exploits, lackluster voice acting, etc but it's still fun to play and fun to make fun of

@berryamv2296

2 жыл бұрын

@@prestoncard6721 true. Shadowmere once got caught onto a dragon for me and flew away

@randomnobody660

2 жыл бұрын

I mean funny as that is, I actually do feel like that. I probably have 200h on elden ring between like 5 characters and am now starting to hate it. The first run was brilliant and there's content everywhere. Then second run was brilliant and I read up on guides and scooped up everything important I missed. After that it felt like most things aren't really worth scoping up in the first place and enemies are almost never worth fighting, so I just end up running around for like 10 minutes at a time. Also bosses were never truly satisfying looking back. Either I had summon/range/op damage/high stagger and steamrolled them, or I traded hits and somehow won, or spent most of my time running away. In the last case it never felt like the sort of dance with the boss people like to describe either but rather that I ran away while the boss did his 15 hit combo, ran in for 1-2 hits, then ran away again. Some bosses in sekiro or hollow knight gave me that "what a fight, would like to do it again right now!" feeling. Never got that in eldenring; always either generic dumb fun or relief that it's over. Not saying hollow knight is such a game, but there are legit reasons to start hating a game after a while.

@amitamo7936

2 жыл бұрын

@@randomnobody660 yeah, after i played dark souls 3 and dark souls 1 and started elden ring, i finished a playthrough and started another. but i felt like there is so much exploring that isnt a challenge or stuff like that that its fun in the first playthough and in the second and more its just like a list of boring things to do. i much prefer ds3 because of the less amount of unneeded content and with hollow knight its just that i get lost in the game every single time and enjoy it the same every single time.

@konajohnson6182

2 жыл бұрын

Let’s be real, this argument could be used for any game. Some games are just not for everyone, doesn’t make it a bad game.

Your face at the giant wall of text review might be the best part of a video ever

@Kristoff384

2 жыл бұрын

I thought I was the only one who saw that.

Fun fact: If you ACTUALLY talk to elderbug after progressing, he does kinda tell you what to do/what the next area you should go is

@phaolo6

2 жыл бұрын

The problem is realizing that he has more useful dialogue. I always re-check NPCs, but many people don't.

@gmonkman

2 жыл бұрын

@@phaolo6 Exactly

@piotr4198

Жыл бұрын

@@phaolo6 in Iselda's shop, one of the text entries for something you can purchase actually encourages you to re-check NPC's.

@ziwuri

Жыл бұрын

This is very true! It actually helped me out at some point during my playthrough because I had forgotten about the Crystal Peaks and he reminded me of them.

@charlix3

11 ай бұрын

Yeah, I did this. But after a while I did what any non-mentally-damaged person should, which is to open my map and go to the area that hasn’t been explored yet.

These reviews make me realize how having a sense of curiosity, exploration, and the desire to "git gud" was apparently not a universal feeling for all HK players

@orangutanman2470

2 жыл бұрын

these people give up so easily and are so unreasonable

@shibadawn

2 жыл бұрын

They didn't get far enough to hear hornets advice. 🥲

@AliciaTheHedgehog

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, like, personally I just wanted to find every nook and cranny in the Kingdom. Whenever I got a new ability, I backtracked to old areas where I knew I could use it to get places. The desire of filling out the entire map was good enough to keep me going, even when I got the locations of the Dreamers I just wanted to try and find everything else too. Hell, the only reason I did the Hollow Knight ending before going to the White Palace was because I was told the first ending would be locked if I got too far into the game, not because I was done playing it. Even if there was "nothing else", I wanted to see all of it. By contrast, a friend of mine told me back then he had started the game a while ago but never got back into it. He showed me the parts of the map he had uncovered and I could almost see the straight line from Dirthmouth to the City of Tears. Both me and another friend joked, independently, that he was trying to speedrun it. He also mentioned how he had no idea where to go next, lol. Everywhere, obviously you should go everywhere! He eventually kept playing and beat it though, and unlike these guys he doesn't think it's a bad game at all. But it honestly amazes me how some people lack this curiosity, maybe because it's such a natural thing to me. xD

@lafethegreat8552

2 жыл бұрын

@@shibadawn i mean, hornets advice IS late game.

@brianestrada1993

2 жыл бұрын

This game honestly isn't that hard unless your fighting the all the secret dream bosses and radiance. Also I guess that one super hard platforming area in the white palace even though it was pretty annoying I still beat it within a hour

"And them you can be the next person who gets stuck at Hornet for 22 hours" Oof. That was personal

@NebuIize

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, I didn't think of Hornet as difficult. I just recently got the game, and I beat Hornet on my second attempt. Just attack her between her attacks and you're good. If you are low on health when she is recovering, you have time to heal back two masks.

@billlewis1468

2 жыл бұрын

@@NebuIize r/wooosh

@cameronschyuder9034

2 жыл бұрын

​@@NebuIize When I first played Hollow Knight, I sucked at every single boss. Except the ones I was overleveled for like flukemarm when i got to the waterways, or brooding mawlek after i found out i skipped that area. I got the concept, I know how I should do things, but my hand-eye coordination + reaction time was (and still is) just bad. Broken vessel ffs took me 15+ tries (and hornet 1 + 2 I think, each). I got better by playing the game a lot, but generally games that require active movement of a character sprite and some form of precision I just pretty much bomb at from the get go

@doomchromee8648

5 ай бұрын

@@cameronschyuder9034I have the same issues as you, but somehow Broken vessel was the only boss that i did first try

@FloodNinja110-ip1hz

5 ай бұрын

I got stuck for 30 minutes. I had only 2 or 3 deaths up to that point, none from bosses.

A common trend here is everyone expects everything to be handed to them on a silver platter, which makes them incredibly impatient and not willing to just relax and have a bit of fun

@Landjrin

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly this, they all seem like the type of person to think "I don't have an obvious objective and arrows directing me everywhere SHIT GAME". The type to kill False Knight, explore for 5 minutes, then think "damn it's been a long time since I've killed a boss, SHIT GAME"

@AbderrahmanTiri

2 жыл бұрын

This.

@FoxySpartan117

2 жыл бұрын

@@Landjrin lol I was just complementing Ghost of Tsushima for exactly that. Reminds me of Shadow of collosus. I want to see the screen, not a compass and a bunch of dots distracting me from beautiful scenery. More games that don't have obvious pointers the better. 😁

@demetrian7856

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, hollow knight is kinda at its best when you play relaxed. You explore, find new areas, forget what you were looking for, fight some boss, and memorize things. You know it's a good game when you memorize the entire map and can play without the upgrades. Just shows how much it teaches you in such a casual way.

@MasterIsabelle

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah hollow knight is not supposed to be speedrun easily

“If Gruz mother was that hard for you to beat” This was hilarious, especially because the dude lost 8k geo, so he killed like 4000 vengeflies

Just letting you know, the game does actually have a subtle guidance system for the first 5-10 hours. Once players find a new ability, if they talk to elderbug he will tell them exactly what area to go to next, so even the people that complained about that were just too impatient to talk to elderbug.

@0XBlondie96X0

2 жыл бұрын

Tbf I didn't even know that! I just used an online guide to tell me where to go next

@chanmandeath2993

2 жыл бұрын

Elderbug also comments on everything you've done if you never talked to him prior! If you never interact, all of Elderbug's dialogue for areas will get backed up and you can learn it all at once haha

@cros2069

2 жыл бұрын

I like elderbug so I talk to him whenever I do anything. Idk he's just a nice chill npc. He should maybe take a seat on that bench sometimes. I worry about his legs giving out.

@melon0637

2 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah, I think I routinely talked to elderbug whenever I can cuz he looks so sad. I have a soft spot for older people and elderbug was a perfect fit for an adorable old man

@collinbeal

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah most players pick up on this, which is probably why the game is correctly considered good. Most stream VODs I've watched have people getting disappointed when Elderbug no longer subtly guides the player halfway through the game. What they don't know is that Elderbug has a character arc and requires a fragile flower to self-actualize. I'm pretty sure that the only characters without an actual or implied character arc are Little Fool, Relic Seeker Lemm, Willoh, Confessor Jiji, Gorb, Bardoon, and Charm Lover Salubra, but they all have such dynamic and compelling characterization.

them: "in the first two hours i didnt get an upgrade that aided movement" also them: *1.9 hours on record*

@JakeFish5058

2 жыл бұрын

Gotta get that £10 back from the steam refund lmao

@ziwuri

Жыл бұрын

@@JakeFish5058 it was almost like they were more exited to leave a negative review and refund the game than they were to actually play the game

@yellowblobby

7 ай бұрын

yeah. 1.9 is completely fair to round up to 2 bro tf are u on...

@angeryfluuf6514

5 ай бұрын

The funny thing is that the first Elder Baldur you kill with VS just loops around back to the Snail Shaman, so when they said they unlocked a new area with VS, they were likely talking about the Elder Baldur you kill that unlocks Greenpath. They likely *did* make it to Greenpath, they just refunded the game before making it to Hornet.

@maysee2515

2 ай бұрын

​@@yellowblobbyI think the main issue was they only had 2 hours, so they should have said "in the two hours I played" rather than saying "the first two hours" which implies they played LONGER when they actually didn't.

5:28 is the one that did it for me. “Strongly influenced by super Metroid…and Castlevania titles”. Like no shit lol 😂 Does this person know what a metroidvania is?

@MasterIsabelle

2 жыл бұрын

They are running out of things to try to diss hollow knight for

@asdfghjkllkjhgfdsa8725

Жыл бұрын

I usually say hollow knight is what we would have if super metroid was made with modern tech and some dark souls type mechanics were added. I mean it as a very high compliment though.

@deltaxeno7807

Жыл бұрын

I doubt it.

@deltaxeno7807

Жыл бұрын

@@asdfghjkllkjhgfdsa8725 I honestly feel like these people played the game *too* much like Dark Souls.

@Driv3rMadness

Жыл бұрын

What is wrong with that comment? It is factually inspired by Super Metroid and Castlevania titles. Why is it so bad that a person is not familiar with the term Metroidvania?

Honestly, these reviews make me laugh. I was *definitely* one of those people who died a hundred times in Forgotten Crossroads because I couldn’t jump from platform to platform and kept falling into spikes. But I knew that this game is actually fantastic at teaching you how to play itself, so I refused to progress to Greenpath until I have finished everything I could in the first area. So I spent, like, an hour beating my head against that Husk Guard trying to save the grub because I knew it was possible, I just had an enormous disadvantage because I’ve never played video games due to a lack of personal computer. And now? I’ve done everything except the Pantheons. And I almost finished P4 on my first try. Got about halfway through Pure Vessel. But once I get used to it, it shouldn’t be a problem. So when I hear complaints about it being “too hard”, it’s just... wow, people. Learn to judge your own abilities first, *then* judge the game.

@katrinasillaman7524

2 жыл бұрын

man, well said.😳

@demetrian7856

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah! I'm playing the game with no nail upgrades or charms, and whenever I go against a boss that I struggle with even with those things, I work my hardest to beat it because I know it's possible. Once I beat something I feel a lot of accomplishment and want to beat it again, to prove I can do it. I also love how much I can see my progress, through memorizing movement patterns, times to heal, etc. etc.

@MasterIsabelle

2 жыл бұрын

I guess I want the only one who died before false knight

@Kayta-Linda

2 жыл бұрын

@@MasterIsabelle Oh, no. My most blooby room was the tall one with Aspid Mothers. For some reason I just kept falling off platforms and being a moron there. Also, I spent half an hour learning to pogo correctly to get the grub to the left... But that was actually my laptop's problem. It doesn't let me press more that three buttons at a time, so I had to get in into my muscle memory to let go of the jump button before going left. That was.. interesting.

@Kayta-Linda

2 жыл бұрын

@@MasterIsabelle And when I came back for speedrun and steel soul achievements, it was like magic. Like I said, this game is fantastic at teaching you how to play itself C:

I love how people see difficult gameplay and environmental storytelling and immediately go "oh, so it's just like dark souls". Yet they don't consider the other factors, like the fact that the two games are entirely different genres: Action - RPG vs 2d sidescroller/metroidvania. It's a game that fans of the souls series are likely to enjoy, that does not mean it is a soulslike. Edit: I also bet the guy that said he beat all the souls games didn't beat them with his own skill, but was carried by 3 overlevelled phantoms and then thought he was skilled.

@Zynet_Eseled

2 жыл бұрын

I'd say that dark souls style environmental storytelling could be considered valid depending on how it's done. Particularly through things like item descriptions, key pieces of character design, effects of actions and an unwavering commitment to mindfuckery and headache inducing theory crafting. But does that therefore have a soulslike made? No. It just means it takes cues from the souls style of environmental storytelling. A true souls like would be an over the shoulder game, with a stamina, mana and health bar, with long attack windup animations, a location to stop at to rest, which respawns enemies, dropping ALL your experience/currency upon death, and an atmosphere of absolute oppression. This isnt that. At most it has cryptic storytelling, and a potentially oppressive atmosphere. That's it. Not the core traits of the style 1 to 1.

@Sleeper_6875

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair it has a similar checkpoint system, similar death runback system, similar need to find gaps in combat to heal in a methodical way, similar environmental storytelling, and similar NPC interactions These aren’t a bad thing and it’s definitely more metroidvania than soulslike, but the soulslike influences are undeniable

@daaaanteeeee5389

2 жыл бұрын

@@Zynet_Eseled exactly

@daaaanteeeee5389

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sleeper_6875 oh yea, I'm not saying it isn't influenced by some aspects, in fact I love that it is. I just hate it when people go so over the line to say its a soulslike from 1 or 2 aspects

@xxProjectJxx

2 жыл бұрын

Idk. Dark Souls inspiration is very evident Hollow Knight, not just from the difficulty and storytelling but also with things like the shade system. I wouldn't call it a Soulslike, but to say it merges Soulsbourne ideas into a Metroidvania framework is very fair. The relation to Dark Souls is definitely warranted IMO, even if there are obvious differences.

I think the getting lost thing is so funny to me. My entire playthrough I used the thing that lets you see yourself on the map. So there is something there for people who get lost... lol

@Dullstar2XQT

2 жыл бұрын

One minor gripe I have with the game is that the Wayward Compass is an excellent quality of life charm to have on a first playthrough, but the combat is already pretty hard for new players when they're actually using all their charm slots for things that help them in combat. Setting aside the memes, it's basically useless for experienced players, so I really don't think its effect needs to have an associated charm notch cost. Having to constantly switch it on and off every time I encountered a boss I couldn't beat first try was kind of annoying, and so was trying to navigate the map without it while I was still learning the layout, particularly in areas like City of Tears and Deepnest. Obviously, though, it's not something that I would consider a dealbreaker in any way.

@guymanhumanperson

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dullstar2XQT my word of advice is, git gud lol

@ItsLeah43

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dullstar2XQT Yeah, I do kind of agree. I think it should have been an item you can purchase from Iselda that was relatively expensive; experienced players can save the geo and maybe grab a fragile charm or an earlier lumafly lantern, and its point and function in the game is entirely retained: Useful for new players, and experienced players can skip it to save resources. I wonder how Silksong is gonna handle it?

@cloutan2746

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dullstar2XQT wdym, Wayward Compass was the thing that allowed me to complete P5, it's absolutely broken.

@Cube-xm6vt

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, but even without Wayward compass it's not too hard to know where you are on the map. You pretty much just have to look at the shape of the room you're in.

I genuinely think the first reviewer did not find out how to exit the crossroads, quit after 5 hours and typed that review.

@bugsquashinghero891

2 жыл бұрын

Do you have a problem with that

@batscove

2 жыл бұрын

@@bugsquashinghero891 wdym we have no problem I think the guy had a problem if he can't exit the forgotten crossroads.

@mewthelolfreak

2 жыл бұрын

@@bugsquashinghero891 do you see me having a problem with that?

@bugsquashinghero891

2 жыл бұрын

@@mewthelolfreak actually I'm the one that has a problem with you the beginning of the game sucks I was actually forcing myself to play it and this is the worst feeling a game can give you

@bugsquashinghero891

2 жыл бұрын

@@mewthelolfreak so I don't blame any of these guys for giving up early

I think in the #8 he was talking about the rewards of the seer and that he had to "grind" for them. It seems the man didn't want to go further into the game until he had all the rewards. So he played like a speedrun low% true ending.

@ethanlivemere1162

2 жыл бұрын

Man read "come back to me when you have X essence" and thought "this is the one and only objective that is required for me to advance in this game". Something tells me he doesn't know how metroidvanias work.

@NEINNEINNEINNEIN1

2 жыл бұрын

Grinding these rewards is easy 1(2) of dream bosses are free(easy to setup cheese strats)+not a lot of trees

@2inchWonder

2 жыл бұрын

@@ethanlivemere1162 he meant geo

@kenziebalhatchet3918

2 жыл бұрын

@@2inchWonder still, the only item that is grindy early on is lumafly lantern but they described vengeful spirit

@william_.575

Жыл бұрын

imagine if he defeated xero and noticed xero didnt respawn, and went on his way to type that shitty review

See these reviews are a common symptom of a totally curable illness called ‘skill issue’. This is easily treated by patience and can be cured with practice and dedication.

@selentia404

2 жыл бұрын

dude fr

@shilohmagic7173

2 жыл бұрын

There’s another factor though. Talent. Unfortunately talent can’t be learned.

@fabiofranchi9678

2 жыл бұрын

Easly cured with "getting good", an activity used to non get salty

@GodotRouge

2 жыл бұрын

@@shilohmagic7173 No need for talent unless you're trying something like p5 hitless or any rad

@GIRGHGH

2 жыл бұрын

@@shilohmagic7173 I feel like the game is easy enough such that talent is not a requirement.

it’s the way fire is just so utterly confused by these reviews and says: “wHat”

Not gonna lie, I myself was stuck in the Crossroads for 5 hours (according to Switch) and I was still blown away by all the art and mechanics which kept me pretty entertained until I finally realized Greenpath had been accessible the whole time.

@valence7

5 ай бұрын

I had the same experience lol. I was trying to farm geo to buy the lantern because I thought that Crystal Peak was where I was supposed to go

THIS IS SO MUCH FUN TO LISTEN TO THANK YOU FIRE

2:31 "noooo you can't tell your story in a creative, thought provoking and intriguing way! I need my lore spoon fed to me!"

10:45 “Combat was super easy” Literally All bosses after False Knight would like to have a word

@lordhellstrande7188

2 жыл бұрын

Well...Massive Moss Charger might not...at least not a long word. Every other one...yeah

@that1cat999

2 жыл бұрын

Nightmare King Grimm is coming for your ass.

@nixys0

Жыл бұрын

Soul Warrior

@Crazy_Diamond_75

Жыл бұрын

@@lordhellstrande7188 or flukemarm. That said, I thought False Knight was really hard when I first started playing. But then I was terrible lol.

@f2pkx463

Жыл бұрын

@@nixys0 I died against soul warrior after thk

The wall of text raises a very good argument about mushrooms. Yeah the game didn’t tell you that you pogo off them, and there was no way to know

I recently finished hollow knight, all endings, all achievements, and I admit, I did get mad at times, but come on. It has gotta be the best game I’ve ever played

@TribeMasterCat

2 жыл бұрын

at the 10 hour mark for me, I ragequitted out of deepnest (no dreamnail, no dive, no lantern.) Three months later I return for the great escape, in which I now have all the endings/achievements. Money well spent (and time.)

@legrandliseurtri7495

2 жыл бұрын

@@TribeMasterCat Why ''no dive''? There aren't really any breakable floor in Deepnest, I'm pretty sure.

@birdsi6845

2 жыл бұрын

@@legrandliseurtri7495 mate, have you ever seen herrah's servents? practiclly unkillable without

@TribeMasterCat

2 жыл бұрын

@@legrandliseurtri7495 to show that I hadn't even done Soul Sanctum at that point. It was my first playthrough and I went in blind.

@legrandliseurtri7495

2 жыл бұрын

@@TribeMasterCat Oh ok.

I think what happened at review #8 is the guy arrived at seer, came to the conclusion that the objective is to collect essence, got a few lucky drops (maybe from using dreamgate?) off enemies and then started grinding for essence.

@BrimmFate

2 жыл бұрын

Nah he talked about the big guys (like moss knight) that give a lot of "essence" not respawning right. They where probably trying to farm husk guards and didn't know that using a bench would get them to respawn and was annoyed because they drop so much geo compared to the little guys

@dominicmesser2425

2 жыл бұрын

He probably meant geo but got it confused with essence

@lowres96

2 жыл бұрын

Not to mention dude played 40 more hours of a game AFTER giving it a bad review.

@MasterIsabelle

2 жыл бұрын

They probably didn’t know the existence of dream warriors, dream bosses, they just stagged out of resting grounds and started grinding by killing enemies

My favorite has to be "man the world building is just too good for a 2D game, if they shittied up the world building this would be a great time waster"

@dragonex4723

2 жыл бұрын

Noooo the game is too high quality nooooo

@justafurrywithinternet317

Жыл бұрын

I mean, I literally don't notice any of the lore in the game so for me it is a great time waster.

@ziwuri

Жыл бұрын

@@justafurrywithinternet317 your loss, I recommend watching mossbag's lore recap to appreciate the amazing story of the game

@justafurrywithinternet317

Жыл бұрын

@@ziwuri All I know is myla gets infected and that made me cry even though I managed to predict it.

@ziwuri

Жыл бұрын

@@justafurrywithinternet317 Why is Myla getting infected any sadder than the dozens of other infected miners in the Peaks? And all the infected bugs in other areas of Hallownest, for that matter?

5:35 So, Hollow Knight, a Metriodvania, is similar, to Metroid, and Castlevania?... Who woulda thought lol

9:17 my man can't spend 50-250 geos for a lifetime travel.

"And then you can probably be the next person to get stuck at Hornet for 22 hours" OOOOOOOOOOOOOF

This is actually making me feel better about myself lol. I was always noob in this kind of games but HK got me so hooked that I just stubbornly pushed further, trying not to care how much I die, trying to get better charm build/upgrades when I got stuck and I actually got so much better with this consistent trying and learning. I love this game.

@Crazy_Diamond_75

Жыл бұрын

I've had the same experience. I still suck, but I have improved so, so much and it's been such an incredibly gratifying experience, even at its most frustrating.

I feel like these people just described my favorite parts of the game but made them sound like bad things

4:57 i love soul sanctum, the music, the ambience, the enemies, the boss, the lore, are all amazing and it also gives you my favorite magic at the end, im so happy this game exists

@ricardobr1493

2 жыл бұрын

As someone who played 50hrs+ soul sactum sucks absolute dogshit

@peacock871

Жыл бұрын

Descending dark really carried me i have respect for soul sanctum (i hate soul tyrant tho-

@Slipperygrenadepond666

Жыл бұрын

@@peacock871I have to agree on soul tyrant because it took me about 18 attempts to even beat him. The main thing is the second phase where you can’t even heal.

@ziwuri

Жыл бұрын

I gotta be honest, one of my only gripes with the game was the backtrack to soul master. Although I was still getting used to the combat and probably missed a shortcut or two (the elevators are confusing imo).

@Slipperygrenadepond666

11 ай бұрын

@@peacock871 I also thought on my first play through that I had to beat soul tyrant before I get out due to having dream nail.

“it doesn’t guide you to to your next mission” my guy has been playing too much sword and shield

5:52 did this guy do true ending low%? (where you need about 1000 essence from killing enemies)

@KhoiV

2 жыл бұрын

Skurry alt account, probably

@masterblaster38

2 жыл бұрын

Seems like It. Or he just had something of not wanting to go further into the game until he got all the upgrades. (Because you don't even have to explore a lot, you most of the time just encaunter them) I think he wanted all of the upgrades because you don't even need awoken dream nail for normal ending.

@eddiemate

2 жыл бұрын

The weird part about that is there's no tougher enemies in TE low%. You literally murder birds for 40 hours. Someone said the essence might actually be geo, and it's just a coincidence it sounds like they're talking about another mechanic. I'd hope this is the case. Otherwise the dude's just playing a whole different game.

@masterblaster38

2 жыл бұрын

@@eddiemate I mean he doesn't say in any moment that It is hard, just that you have to farm. He even says that you have to find "secrets" and the essense fights are tecnically like secrets or out of the way. So thats why I think he says that. He also says he played for 7 hours if he hasn't read the people calling the money "geo" then I don't know what to say.

@eddiemate

2 жыл бұрын

@@masterblaster38 The review specifically mentions "tougher" enemies. I didn’t say they said it was hard. And while I do agree it does sound like it’s referring to the dream bosses/warriors, there’s some confusing parts. First of all, like you said they were playing for 7 hours. While it’s possible to get to resting grounds in that time through intended means, how do you get stuck thinking essence is your only option? Clearly you have more things to explore, especially with the map telling you about the dreamers. Secondly, the reviewer listed frustration that the devs "patched" the "tougher enemies" from respawning even when transitioning between rooms. Why would anyone think any dream warriors/bosses respawn?

I was gonna give up when I was stuck in fungal wastes below cornifer, having to quit out and reload the game because I didn’t know what to do or where to go. It was by pure chance that I pogoed a mushroom for the very first time, and because of that I kept playing the game. (Have now finished P5 no bindings).

@ParsureArts

2 жыл бұрын

Congrats! :D

@batscove

2 жыл бұрын

I don't understand why people never pogo the mushrooms it was instinct to do that for me. IG it's because I spend my life playing games(how 2 touch grass pls help)

@chanmandeath2993

2 жыл бұрын

@@batscove I also got stuck on mushroom pogo and needed the communities help lmao. It's probably because a player jumps on a mushroom, and the funny jump mechanic logic takes priority. Sort of like "Well I know in other games, with something bouncy, if I jump on it and time my jump just right I'd get a super jump. That must be how this works"

@cros2069

2 жыл бұрын

​@@batscove I avoided spoilers at all cost and didn't even know you could hit downwards. I knew I had to jump on the mushrooms tho so I kept trying until I realized that it wasn't me, it was just impossible to jump high enough and had to look up what to do incase I was missing an ability and I wasn't supposed to be there yet. Before that tho, I even saw on the map that there were two entrances to the same place so I went the other way and was so disappointed that I walked that way just to be met with the same obstacle.

@cros2069

2 жыл бұрын

​@@chanmandeath2993 Yea I probably spent over ten minutes just trying to "time my jump right"

when i first started hollow knight i was absolutely terrible. after 9-10 hours i stopped playing. did i leave a negative review because of my skill level? no , i tried out some new games and came back to it and now it’s one of my favourite games.

@cashel1015

Жыл бұрын

Same here

"How can a game simultaneously not give you guidance and also make you get lost" OK that's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard tho lmao

@bb-im6hf

2 жыл бұрын

well, it can't give you no guidance and at the same time give you bad guidance and make you get lost... with no guidance you can only get lost yourself probably

@cangel8563

2 жыл бұрын

You can only get lost by yourself if the game isn't really guiding you. And the game is not guiding you at the start at least. Later some NPCs do give hints

@guymanhumanperson

2 жыл бұрын

U can't have a shitty car if u don't have a car my guy

@RedFloyd469

2 жыл бұрын

I think the core message of this somewhat oddly worded statement, is the following: "The game does not really guide you by giving you directions, therefore It's easy to get lost." This statement wouldn't be incorrect, and would avoid the weird paradoxical language that they actually used. I still don't think it's good criticism. The game gives you a map, gives you plenty of hints that there is a map-maker that you can pay for a map, gives you items to update said map, and has a charm that pinpoints your position, making getting lost a non-issue from then on. Sure, it may take a while for the player to figure those things out. But a few strolls in and out of dirtmouth solves that immediately. And it's not like it isn't obvious that there are shops opening up there... The only remaining issue, is exploring an area in which you haven't found the map-maker yet. To be fair, there are a few areas like that, that can be a bit confusing first time around, with how similar the backgrounds can be for some areas. But that's the whole point of a metroidvania anyway, to explore and figure things out on your own.

@HonkeyKong54

Жыл бұрын

This game is sht at guiding you and shouldn't even be compared to metroid.

Yesssssssss, more mad cause bad! >:D Once again I am absolutely wheezing at both the reviews, and your reactions to them.

Ah yes people shitting on the two best aspects of the game; atmosphere and lore.

@MasterIsabelle

2 жыл бұрын

Someone in the previous video shitted on the music

@bendystrawz2832

2 жыл бұрын

And most of the reviews shit on the gameplay. It's tough to pick a top three out of just those four. They're all so good!

You gotta love how certain souls players think that miyazaki owns enviromental storytelling. Also their complaints about mobility which previous to elden ring consisted on throwing yourself and rolling

Oh boy. To be fair, I had REALLY mixed feelings throughout my first playthrough. I remember posting on reddit how the game had 'held me hostage' for several weeks: I was too invested to quit, but I was having a Bad Time during most of the bossfights. It started with me needing 30min to beat Hornet in Greenpath and ended with me finally getting 112%... 150 hours in. Several bossfights took me 2-4 hours to clear. It was pretty miserable at times. Especially since I've prided myself in being Good At Games and this one was stonewalling me hard, emphasising the opposite. That said, I've been enjoying the subsequent playthroughs a lot more. There's a special kind of joy in getting 112% in 8 hours when it used to take you 150. And since I no longer feel like I'm bad at the game, I'm enjoying it a lot more. Somewhere along the way, I gained the patience to suck it up and enjoy being stuck on a boss for several hours. Definitely has come in handy during my HOG grinding... Zote's smug ass took 3 hours to radiant clear. Knowing now that the bosses are meant to be hard, it's easier to rejoice when I clear a hard challenge in less time than I had expected. Absrad ascended clear still eludes me. Help. I've already spent 15 hours on it in total, tho I must've lost a lot of my muscle memory whenever I take a couple month break from grinding her battle and do speedruns / challenges instead

@legrandliseurtri7495

2 жыл бұрын

I was fine for most of the game and breezing past every boss in five tries or less, until failed champion, soul tyrant and especially NKG just kind of hit me in the face. Afterwards, when I hit another brick wall at pantheon 3, I learned from my past experiences and took a break by doing a second playthrought. When I came back, I did it like three tries. I continued to apply this method for every challenge afterwards, althought sometimes I waited too long before doing so; ascended absolute radiance was the worst case, where I spent like 15 hours grinding across like a week, before finally recognizing that it was a terrible idea to frustrate myself like that, and that it would certainly not improve my already shaky mental health at the time lol. Still, in the end, I got every single journal entry in the game with far less frustration and rage than it would have costed me if I played the game a couple years ago when I was even worse at controlling my impulses. And now, I only have the all bindings at the same time challenge remaining for pantheon 3, 4 and 5. I don't plan to tackle this ever, but who knows, maybe in a couple years I'll suddendly think this is a great idea. For the moment, however, I'm happy just occasionnally doing a randomizer playthrought of this game, which often gives me the occasion to challenge myself in unexpected and wacky ways. For example, I recently did ascended Hornet 2 with the old nail, vengeful spirit and only one side of the dash.That took forever, despite the fact that I only died three times.

@mouhiazeck

Жыл бұрын

I took more than an hour to beat Hornet. I had to take a nap. I woke up and beat her on my second try

In defense of review #9, I too struggled with discerning between background art and actual platforms at times

@tommyrasmussen2337

2 жыл бұрын

Those pipes that carried acid onto the ground in kingdoms edge always tricked me

@EmiWi

Жыл бұрын

You could chalk that up to a lack of gamer intuition though.

I also struggled with getting lost a lot and Wayward Compass actually saved me so many times. Ik it's a meme to use this charm, but if you have a shit sense of orientation like me it's extremely useful. Also since it was my first Metroidvania I relate to the frustration about the game not telling you what to do. But once you find the intrinsic motivation to just explore and find out for yourself it gets soooo good.

2:14 "it took me almost 60 hours to realize that" My first (and for now only, cuz i'm still going) playthrough is at 70ish hours and i'm at 109% how bad is this guy 💀

@black_nyello7663

2 жыл бұрын

lol same... 112%ed with p5, ascended HoG (radiant will come with time) and PoP completed after 80 hours... Good luck with your last 3%!

@0XBlondie96X0

2 жыл бұрын

Admittedly I was probably even worse than that on my first playthrough because I didn't even officially beat the game till after around 180 hours of gameplay. Yeah... I really sucked on my first playthrough

@black_nyello7663

2 жыл бұрын

@@0XBlondie96X0 That's fine, nothing wrong with not excelling at a game. The problem is when people use this as a way to say the game is bad.

@tommasocesarato3831

2 жыл бұрын

@@black_nyello7663 thank you, I've been pretty busy with school in the last few months so I haven't played a lot, but I plan on getting those last 3% this summer :)

@black_nyello7663

2 жыл бұрын

@@tommasocesarato3831 oh, finals coming up? I'm in the same boat atm... well good luck on that then as well!

i think one of the best part is getting a new ability and then remembering . "oh i know where to use that"

So what I got from this bad reviews... -They are so used to someone telling them(in game) what to do,go to where, use something, that if other game let you find for yourself all of that,they get mad? -They have the patience of a 3 years old kid. -Didn't play the game entirely, because they wanted the money back(play less than 2 hours) -Don't know how metroivanias works. -They just suck at inputs and combat. -Comparing the game to others game(if you're a gamer,never do it)

@lordhellstrande7188

2 жыл бұрын

People comparing games to others has really put me off some games like Legends Arceus. I love Pokemon but the only thing I heard about Legends was it's like Monster Hunter and BotW...both of which don't 100% interest me. I agree (after watching some playthroughs) that they're good, but I don't want a pokemon game that feels like another game, really

@Kowery105

2 жыл бұрын

@@lordhellstrande7188 In my opinion Legend Arceus is one of the best pokemon games of all time

@smallblackcoffee7340

2 жыл бұрын

@@lordhellstrande7188 is is bad to compare the sequel to the original?

Now something I noticed is some of these reviews were posted on April 1st so they might actually be joke negative reviews, just something to look out for lol

Oh, it is good to look at the dates on some of these reviews… considering on when major updates happened… especially that essence dude

I know the point of these is to dunk on people who find the game "too hard," but I'd like to gently push back on a specific point of Review #9. We all know Hollow Knight's aesthetic is fantastic, but due to the lack of contrast between backgrounds and platforms in some areas (Greenpath and City of Tears come to mind), it can indeed be difficult to tell the difference, particularly for players with low vision or other disabilities. It's an accessibility problem and that doesn't make it the game's fault, but as somebody that's legally blind and a fan of your content, I hope you're willing to be considerate and not immediately chalk it up to simple ineptitude. That only hurts players with physical barriers and contributes to the idea that gaming isn't for everyone.

@gidge9846

2 жыл бұрын

I definitely found this in Queens garden

@bearturtle6058

2 жыл бұрын

skill issue.

@ElysianLys

2 жыл бұрын

@@bearturtle6058 You can't skill your way into 20-20 vision, homie. Some people really do have different physical needs, and saying it's all a matter of skill is factually wrong.

@dopaminecloud

2 жыл бұрын

I think it's not worth not recommending a game over, but the real issue at hand here is content communication which is something art always struggles with. Think trigger warnings for literature, it's hard to know how far things can extend and count as triggers. The list gets crazy. A game like hollow knight has bright lights, requires decent execution and reflex and more on top of the occasional background detail that can be confused. None of this is explicitedly communicated but these are all things that may prevent someone from beating the game. The largest amount of people are filtered by the skill requirement (ignoring the motivation to play at all), so people often take that as default response to seeing someone complain.

@ElysianLys

2 жыл бұрын

@@dopaminecloud For sure, I totally understand where you're coming from in that not every little thing can be warned for and difficulty is generally The foremost barrier to entry for a game like Hollow Knight. I agree that it's petty to not recommend the game for a reason like that, it's just Specifically the idea of "mistake platforms = automatically inept" insinuated as a response that made me bristle a bit, that's all!

I think the review regarding “essence” they talking about geo and didn’t understand how to get enemies to respond to farm money and maybe sucks at finding journals and statues for Lemm that’s my guess lol I forgot about actual essence for the dreamnail so nvm, they probably just didn’t know about dream bosses for essence and thought you needed to fill up from regular enemies

@salmonmankingoftheocean7624

2 жыл бұрын

Actually, i think they were complaining that the Dream Warriors wouldn’t respawn, so they had to farm essence on normal mods

@animebabe4107

2 жыл бұрын

@@salmonmankingoftheocean7624 that’s so true, you’d think before writing such a long review they’d maybe google what they’re doing wrong but these people clearly lack common sense or something

The Essenes guy is talking about the big bugs with clubs in forgotten crossroads, and how you need to rest at a bench for them to respawn. Optimal early game farming route.

“As evidenced by the giant f*cking thumb”

I will say, for that one long one that wasn't read in the video, I do kind of get their point--namely in regards to the mushrooms. Fungal Waste is my very least favorite area in the game simply because of how long it took for me to figure out that you had to downslash the mushrooms in order to progress--I also was under the impression that you needed some other movement ability to use them. I do wish that there was some clue or hint that indicated what you were supposed to do with the mushrooms. (That said, it was not SO annoying that I felt the need to write an entire wall of text about it.) As for their other gripes with the game, I feel like that is very much more an issue with their own memory and not having the patience for a game with as much going on as Hollow Knight. there are not a lot of "links in the chain" as it were--and even many of the ones that exist are optional if you're clever enough with it (such as wings). I feel like most of their gripes are legitimate misunderstandings of how the game is supposed to work.

@JakeFish5058

2 жыл бұрын

I mean tbf, most of the time when you see a new thing the devs expect your first instinct to be to hit it. It's your main way to interact with the enviroment. Upon hitting them you can see you get knocked back, it then follows that hitting down would knock you back (up). I wouldn't say it's an issue really but I can see how someone would miss it

@RedFloyd469

2 жыл бұрын

@@JakeFish5058 You're right. I think the real issue with the mushrooms is getting to learn how to use them properly, which requires learning proper timing, learning not to spam the downwards slash, and just going for it, learning as you play. It took me a little while to get it under control but now it's like second nature. The mushrooms really are just an obstacle you get past through skill, patience and experience. Nothing more to it. And afterwards you'll hit yourself for how long it took you to learn it.

@ItsLeah43

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, I think a great way to tutorialize that would be another hornet appearance. You see her in a room but she runs off to the side and down slashes a mushroom, sending her into the air some and off screen. I was also stuck in fungal wastes for a while trying to find a new ability, and when I figured it out it was less of an "Oh!" moment and more of an "oh.". I really enjoy interacting with negative takes on things I like cause of this, it helps you see little things that remind you nothing is entirely perfect.

@oshaqsha9826

Жыл бұрын

It’s fair to call it an oversight when it’s technically the first time the game *requires* the player to nail bounce as a movement mechanic to progress. It’s really not a game breaker, but could easily be solved by making a small area impossible to leave without using the bounce mushrooms. For example they could remove the ability to simply jump out of the room cornifer is in, so when you drop down you have to bounce out either way. It really shouldn’t be hard from there to figure out what to do with some very basic thinking.

To be honest, stem one time put in a store a souls-like (whit tag included) whit the flavor text "because you play hollow knight, this is other game that you should enjoy"

Thanks for the shout-out! (Final quote "maybe you will be the next person to get stuck at hornet for 22 hours")

This dude is so damn funny man. “Then you can be the next person stuck at hornet for 22 hours” 😂😂😂

Such a difficult game. My 5 year old beat The hollow knight the other day. Took him 86 hours tho :P

@postonian425

2 жыл бұрын

i’m not surprised it took 86 hours, but your 5 year old is a chad god gamer

@DesTr069

2 жыл бұрын

That is actually insane, congrats to them!! A new MonStah in the making

@voidnoidoid

2 жыл бұрын

Wait holy shit your 5 year old is a gaming legend

@AdaTheWatcher

2 жыл бұрын

Your 5 year old has more patience then the average bad reviewer

@Jan-nl6kq

2 жыл бұрын

even though i was tripple his age on my first playthrough it took me 70 hours too XD

Bro the way i cackled at his reaction to the wall of text

I really hope this will be a regular series!

2:48 yeah he’s right. Like books, adding story to them is pointless because just text isn’t immersive enough, they should try making it 3D :/

Your "reading comments and looking confused"-face at 2:53 would be an amazing emote.

The thing about that last review is that the first Elder Baldur you kill with VS just loops around back to the Snail Shaman, so they were likely talking about the Elder Baldur you kill that unlocks Greenpath. They likely *did* make it to Greenpath, but just refunded the game before making it to Hornet.

i found this really funny props to you fire

Whenever I buy a game I always translate the dollars I payed into hours (so a 15 dollar game gets 15 hours of playtime minimum). I can't imagine playing 1 hour in a 15 dollar game.

@raizors1331

2 жыл бұрын

I often translate price of a game to the amount of meal I can get out of that money. So for starter Hollow knight is 5$, that's 3 days meal if I am saving, quite cheap for a game I enjoy a lot But again, if you doesn't like the game any price is "expensive" so I kinda got what that first review is talking about. Doesn't mean I agree with them thou ._.

@legrandliseurtri7495

2 жыл бұрын

Hmmm...Problem with that is that Steam only offers a refund if you have less than two hours of playtime. So, for example, recently I asked and obtained a refund for Sundered, because I wasn't having a good time in those two hours.

@dilaisy_loone2846

2 жыл бұрын

@@raizors1331 where you get your meals from?🤨

@dominicmesser2425

2 жыл бұрын

@@raizors1331 $5 for 3 days? Man where in the world are you getting this food lmao

@zarif1217

2 жыл бұрын

@@raizors1331 do you eat a chocolate bar a day?

I might’ove spent 20 hours getting out of crossroads and another 20 beating hornet but those were some dam good hours Five stars

I think that “essence” review was talking about geo. Hollow Knight is my second favourite game ever (only beaten out by Zelda: Majora’s Mask) but I will admit one of its faults is how tedious farming for geo can be if you want a specific item or charm in the early game.

@zarif1217

2 жыл бұрын

took me 10 minutes for lantern on my early game playthrough

@ForsakenFenix

2 жыл бұрын

They didn't know you need to rest at a bench to get the enemies to respawn, otherwise they wouldn't have said anything about the enemies not respawning.

The look of terror while looking at the 3 paragraphs got me

The controls one is funny cause you can just change the controls in settings it’s not that hard lmao

The ending line is perfect lol

8:06 hate to tell you this, but hollow knight has a souls-like tag on steam

@fireb0rn

2 жыл бұрын

The ultimate authority on video game genres

Love this. Just simply not giving a single airborne fuck.

I agree with the walking issue. You get bored fast traveling trying to find something to do

9:51 I get fires point. Hollow Knight is tagged as "soulslike" in the steam store though, so I guess that's where people are getting it from.

I love your take and this style of video… I haven’t laughed is hard in awhile… Hopefully a collaboration with other HK community content makers in the future! Keep up the great work!!!

Love the melee music at beginning

7:40 is a review I could leave as a fan lol. It's hard and punishing but it doesn't make the game bad

Ah yes, reviewing the bad reviews. This video content is amazing, keep up the good work!

god i love these so much

"The whole fing map" Stag Stations Trams Hidden Shortcuts

I think for number 8 they used the essence to refer to soul, and how enemies don’t respawn when reentering a room probably because they don’t know how to use a bench.

As someone whi git stuck at hornet for 22 hours, Games amazing.

"you could probably be the next person stuck at Hornet for 22 hours" KSJKSHDFGSD I CACKLED OMG PLS

I love your videos! They are so entertaining! Oh and I finally beat Absolute Radiance (albeit in the hall of gods) and I'm really excited to beat P5!

I will say, on the platform thing, that I still misjudge whether something is a platform or background element, or in some cases miss that there's a platform at all, after over 100 hours of game time. Though my partner watching me play has no problems spotting them, so maybe it's partly a problem of tunnel vision as well.

5:43 OH MY GOD A METROIDVANIA GAME HAS ELEMENTS INSPIRED FROM METROID AND CASTLEVANIA WHO WOULD'VE GUESSED?!?!?!?!?

Ouuuu you did two of these videos I love entertaining hollow knight content that doesn’t spoil game play for me! Awesome videos man

Please do more of these

5:00 honestly in my opinion, the default keyboard controls for Hollow Knight aren't very good. Luckily you can re-bind them or use a controller, which is what I did.

Ok so idk if a lot of people will see this but I just beat absolute radiance on radiant mode twice in a row! About 3 days ago.

@astcrace

2 жыл бұрын

Ay congrats!

I suspect reviewer #8 was confusing essence with geo, and talking about how certain enemies don't respawn until you get to a bench.

I love these review of reviews videos! I'm not super experienced with video games, but HK was recommended to me last year and I gave it a go. Super intriguing that people find backtracking exploration (i.e. when you gain new movement ability and can enter new sections of old maps) to be tedious. I thought it was one of the best parts! I always got giddy when I realized that I could go back to the places I'd marked and explore them anew. Lots of these reviewers seem to desire instant gratification, but at least for me, HK's relative lack of guidance actually makes finding upgrades/bosses/new sections super rewarding.

I'm bad at gaming Got really stuck at Hornet, she took me 11 tries, also I couldn't beat the 1st soul warrior (we don't speak of that) But I still tried and honestly, between the hard boss tries there were so many great moments of exploration and mistery Also don't get me wrong, the fact they were hard doesn't mean they weren't fun

This is really sad to me, to see that most of these bad reviews are from people who have so much time in the game that the bad review doesn't seem to make sense, or from people with less than 10 hours in the game, who have a complete lack of understanding of the game's fundamentals. "Farming essence" "pay for fast travel." I'm not sure what led people to these misunderstandings, but it's sad to see. The feature that led me, and thousands of others to love the game so much was the sense of exploration and constantly feeling lost, only to wander into a place where you can finally feel relief, and get your bearings once more. This very feature brought about so many misunderstandings, and led people to drop the game without ever being able to experience the true Hollow Knight.

This is actually hilarious content. Thanks 😆

"Then you can probably be the next person to be stuck on hornet for 22 hours" nah man I was there for 98h

Fireborn: makes fun of a reviewer for not playing the game for long enough. Also fireborn: makes fun of a reviewer for playing the game for longer. The person with over 100 hours probably wanted to enjoy it. but even after playing through the entire game, and going through all of the endings, they still didn't like it, and that's okay

@JacobPDeIiNoNi

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. As much as I like the HK fandom, it's absolutely an echo chamber for praise of the game sometimes. I think lots of thoughtful but negative reviews just get dismissed, clearly because somebody had over 100 hours and still had negative things to say. I think that you should probably listen to those negative things because they likely come from a place of genuine constructive criticism. And I'm not denying that "bad" reviews exist, people who didn't play through or understand the game enough.

@MPerMinute

2 жыл бұрын

There are so many games out there. I think making fun of someone who spends 100+ hours on something they aren’t enjoying is entirely justified.

@castlebeki

2 жыл бұрын

I mean, that one seems like they just genuinely didn't like it. That's alright. I just think their review should have mentioned at least one "I didn't like it, i feel like ..." and some "I found this part good..., I found this part interesting..." Because in the end, it's all subjective. :/

@giuf175

2 жыл бұрын

And both are valid reasons to make fun of people. You don't play 100+hours of a game you dont enjoy... I also cant take your review seriously when you're 2 hours in, stuck in forgotten crossroads and write an angry review cause you dont have common sense.

@JacobPDeIiNoNi

2 жыл бұрын

@@giuf175 It's possible to play lots of a game, only to later start to feel worse about it. It's not like if you enjoy a game when you first play it you'll still enjoy it at the end of your playthrough. It's entirely possible that person got 100 hours in and then started to dislike it.

It really feels like I played a different game from these people. Hollow Knight isn't necessarily easy by any stretch of means but it's not some impossibly difficult game or as labyrinthian as some people seem to make it out to be. It sounds like everyone here folds at the slightest iota of resistance or difficulty. At least we all agree Hollow Knight is beautiful.

Yesterday i was just thinking i wish fireborn made a second one of these

The light house background really made me want to blow on my screen because it looked so much like crumbs on my screen