Holding Patterns Explained - Holding Pattern Q&A With Air Traffic Controller

Holds and Entries are described, illustrated, and demonstrated with Microsoft Flight Simulator by an ATP rated pilot and a question-and-answer session with a retired Air Traffic Controller about one of the most important but rarely used instrument procedures in aviation - holding patterns and entry procedures. Holds are not difficult, but they do take practice to stay proficient in doing them. Several holding patterns along with each entry type or shown along with a DME hold and a holding pattern with the Collins FMS and how to set up an FMS hold is shown.
Help support the channel:
/ @thecorporatepilotdad
#Holds #HoldEntries #IFR #HoldingPattern #ATC #holdingpattern #thecorporatepilotdad
Holding patterns and hold entries are illustrated and demonstrated using Microsoft Flight Simulator by a professional pilot with over 7,000 hours of flight time. Realistic ATC communications are used with the help of a former Air Traffic Controller - And a moving map so you can see what the airplane is doing from the top-down view.
Standard and non-standard holds are discussed as well as each entry type which includes direct entry, teardrop entry, and parallel entry. An actual hold is flown after entries are demonstrated and a DME hold is flown as well. A hold in lieu of a procedure turn is also covered. A demonstration of how to set up an FMS hold is given as well.
We also demonstrate holding instructions given by ATC along with the readback and setup of the hold.
References and resources for holding are given near the end of the video. They include: Instrument Flying Handbook, Airmen Information Manual (AIM), 7110.65 (ATC's version of the AIM), and a holding pattern calculator.
Once hitting the fix, the 5 T's are used. Turn, Time, Twist, Throttle, Talk. The order of turn and time are interchangeable, which is acceptable either way. I use the mindset of fly the airplane first. Get the airplane going the way it needs to go, then worry about pushing a button on a timer.
A question-and-answer session at the end of the video with an Air Traffic Controller covers questions about holds from the ATC perspective.
Regulations are covered which include speed limitations and reporting requirements.
This tutorial is a great aid for instrument (IFR) students, VatSim and PilotEdge users.
Charts are provided by Navigraph.com
Join this channel to get access to perks and help support the channel to do more aircraft reviews, IFR and VFR procedures using real ATC communications with PilotEdge, and more:
/ @thecorporatepilotdad
Aircraft functions and controls can change over time in the simulator with updates. This video was made in August 2021 after Sim Update 5 and World Update 5.
0:00 - Intro to Holds
0:52 - Holding Clearance and Drawing a Hold
2:00 - Entry Types
2:58 - Direct Entry
4:20 - Parallel Entry
5:50 - Teardrop Entry
9:45 - DME Hold
11:55 - FMS Hold Setup
13:15 - FAA Regulations/AIM and Recommendations
14:25 - Questions and Answers on Holding with an Air Traffic Controller
17:08 - Resources and E6B Calculator Website

Пікірлер: 41

  • @thecorporatepilotdad
    @thecorporatepilotdad3 жыл бұрын

    Holding patterns and hold entries can be challenging because they are seldom used. What are some other challenging subjects/tasks that aren't used a lot in aviation that you would like to see demonstrated in a video?

  • @casilasgoaler

    @casilasgoaler

    2 жыл бұрын

    NDB tracking TO and FR (ADF fixed card), NDB Approaches. Kindly please! 🙏🙏🙏

  • @octanejimmy
    @octanejimmy3 жыл бұрын

    Holding patterns hurt my feelings....... Thanks for the video.

  • @thecorporatepilotdad

    @thecorporatepilotdad

    3 жыл бұрын

    Mine too. You should see how the mood changes in the cockpit when ATC says "expect holding".

  • @octanejimmy

    @octanejimmy

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@thecorporatepilotdad love the DME tip. Didnt even know you could do that. Great stuff as always brother.

  • @thecorporatepilotdad

    @thecorporatepilotdad

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@octanejimmy you sure can. The holding fix can even be a DME distance instead of the VOR itself.

  • @NoDakExpress

    @NoDakExpress

    3 жыл бұрын

    @thecorporatepilotdad i gave a northwest airlines DC-9 penalty vectors once. it wasn't even holding, it was 'go over there and think about what you've done' 😆

  • @thecorporatepilotdad

    @thecorporatepilotdad

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@NoDakExpress did he know what he did?

  • @harrybassett9433
    @harrybassett94333 жыл бұрын

    My head hurts in a good way - thank you - I will get there eventually

  • @thecorporatepilotdad

    @thecorporatepilotdad

    3 жыл бұрын

    I promise you will. Questions are encouraged if you have any.

  • @apilotbgsu172
    @apilotbgsu1723 жыл бұрын

    thanks for the refresher. love those instruments

  • @thecorporatepilotdad

    @thecorporatepilotdad

    3 жыл бұрын

    Me too! Give me steam gauges any day over a glass cockpit.

  • @bluesfool1
    @bluesfool13 жыл бұрын

    Great tutorial! I dread the day I get a hold

  • @thecorporatepilotdad

    @thecorporatepilotdad

    3 жыл бұрын

    Practice along with paper and a pencil go along way. I used to flip through approaches plates asking students which entry from where I pointed. Do that enough and you’ll be able to visualize them in your head. My last hold in the real world was 5 years ago.

  • @TheFalconJetDriver
    @TheFalconJetDriver3 жыл бұрын

    Great video, in my 45 years of flying Far 121 and 135 and 91 and at 14,000 hours plus flight time ( yea know a low time pilot. I spent 20 years teaching airline pilots new airplanes ) . I can say I have only had to hold 4 times. And a lot of that flight time was acquired in the North East. I guess I have been lucky. I do believe that every pilot should abide by the established procedures that are expected for a pilot to utilize a holding pattern. 😁🛫

  • @thecorporatepilotdad

    @thecorporatepilotdad

    3 жыл бұрын

    In the last 15 years I’ve had to hold somewhere around SLC and over Stillwater going to TEB. I’ve heard expect holding many times and then we don’t have to hold. That’s why holds are so important. They are so infrequent it’s easy to forget the finer points of doing one.

  • @mpepi8778
    @mpepi8778 Жыл бұрын

    I appreciate how you went over the "5 Ts." That helps me tremendously as I practice holds while I "chair fly." Thank you for this great video!

  • @thecorporatepilotdad

    @thecorporatepilotdad

    Жыл бұрын

    You’re welcome. Holds are one of the harder subjects to learn. They just take practice but they do become easy. Holds are rarely given in the real world and it can be difficult to stay proficient without frequent practice. That’s another thing MSFS is great for.

  • @jarrodclyne707
    @jarrodclyne7073 жыл бұрын

    Lovely - excellent content. Thank you.

  • @thecorporatepilotdad

    @thecorporatepilotdad

    3 жыл бұрын

    You're welcome. This video is as official as I could get. Very in-depth and it took many hours of work.

  • @bufftheowl
    @bufftheowl2 жыл бұрын

    Very thorough, thank you!

  • @thecorporatepilotdad

    @thecorporatepilotdad

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. This video was definitely thorough and I must say having the Air Traffic Controller give his input really helps get the controller's perspective of holds that pilots don't see or hear.

  • @jeffhiew5795
    @jeffhiew57952 жыл бұрын

    At 2:20 , if the right end perpendicular line is lower by 20 degree, won't that be left hand turn? But the chart shows is a right hand turn.

  • @thecorporatepilotdad

    @thecorporatepilotdad

    2 жыл бұрын

    The lines are used to determine the entry type depending on the sector the fix is being entered from. The hold is to the right but in this case it would be a left turn after crossing the fix for the parallel entry. After intercepting the inbound course, right hand turns would be made while in the hold.

  • @jeffhiew5795

    @jeffhiew5795

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@thecorporatepilotdad For parallel entry, flying backward for inbound course, is there a risk of aircraft collision with other aircrafts that are already in the holding pattern?

  • @thecorporatepilotdad

    @thecorporatepilotdad

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jeffhiew5795 No. They will be at different altitudes with at least 1000' vertical separation. Two aircraft can't be in the same hold at the same altitude. Controllers can make mistakes though, pilots too.

  • @jeffhiew5795

    @jeffhiew5795

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@thecorporatepilotdad many thanks for the tutorial

  • @volleynerd
    @volleynerd Жыл бұрын

    Really enjoying your content. Found it based on the CJ4 that I have been learning, but also applying some of the concepts to the G1000 in the Baron. Practicing holding patterns - admittedly this is a made up scenario: I was inbound to KORF with an approach programmed into the G1000. Then I told myself, let's HOLD for a bit (had to eat dinner LOL). Chose to hold at the airport fix, which is probably VERY wrong. So then I was in a right hold for a couple laps, and wanted to rejoin the approach leg. Couldn't figure it out, although my attempt was to activate that leg, it looked like it wanted to go direct to the airport. Have a recording of my hassling through it (and then flying manually back onto the approach path). Newbie continuing to learn... kzread.info/dash/bejne/jJmstttqqtO2Y9I.html

  • @thecorporatepilotdad

    @thecorporatepilotdad

    Жыл бұрын

    I watched part of it, and it sounded like you were enjoying your dinner in the video. Haha. I will sometimes build a hold in the CJ4 in MSFS near the destination and walk away from the PC. If I get back soon enough, the landing can be completed, but if not, the airplane will be in a hold or laying on the ground somewhere without any fuel in it.

  • @ZZstaff
    @ZZstaff3 жыл бұрын

    Early on I noticed that you were using a simulator, however I was focused on listening to you and the controller and reading text. It was not until about 3 minutes into the video that you were using a Piper, the instrument panel included a manifold gauge, there is a gear lever and prop RPM lever. With the indicated airspeed of 130 to 135 knots I would guess this is an Arrow, however the throttle is may be 25 or 30% open and if accurate might indicate a Lance or other 6 seat Piper. Let me know, it would be interesting to find out.

  • @thecorporatepilotdad

    @thecorporatepilotdad

    3 жыл бұрын

    I used the Piper Turbo Arrow IV by Just Flight for MSFS. The throttle wasn’t opened very far like a conventional Arrow because it has a fixed wastegate turbocharger. The throttle won’t be against the stop until 12000 feet density altitude and then it will give 41 inch of MP and lose an inch of MP every 1000 feet of altitude gain from there. I did my Commercial and CFI in a Turbo Arrow over 20 years ago.

  • @ZZstaff

    @ZZstaff

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@thecorporatepilotdad Interesting, thank you very much. I got my commercial ticket in 1978 in an arrow, non-turbo. It was a nice little airplane, for my cross country [3x 200 mile legs] didn't need refueled. Thank you for bringing back some old memories.

  • @thecorporatepilotdad

    @thecorporatepilotdad

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ZZstaff You are very welcome. Even flying the Turbo Arrow in MSFS brings back memories for me. I love my job flying business jets, but really miss flying GA airplanes like the Turbo Arrow.

  • @adhesiveducks

    @adhesiveducks

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@thecorporatepilotdad Have you considered a video on constant speed props? I know there’s a ton of flight school videos on youtube that cover it, but they’re quite technical and often really long. Your vid on magnetos was ace, one in a similar vein on these types of planes in MSFS explaining the blue lever and the relationship between MP/RPM would be really good. Just a suggestion of course (plus it could be an excuse to reminisce about your time flying these types)

  • @thecorporatepilotdad

    @thecorporatepilotdad

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@adhesiveducks I sure have considered it many times and have some ideas on it and how it needs to be done.

  • @virtualDon
    @virtualDon3 жыл бұрын

    Aeronautical Information Manual now (more "PC" than "Airman's Information Manual")!

  • @thecorporatepilotdad

    @thecorporatepilotdad

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’ll be sure to call it that in the next video. You know what they say about old habits.

  • @apilotbgsu172
    @apilotbgsu1723 жыл бұрын

    you forgot to verify the VOR my friend

  • @thecorporatepilotdad

    @thecorporatepilotdad

    3 жыл бұрын

    Indeed but since the engine volume is turned down the Morse code can't be heard. That's why I don't do it in the videos.