Paul's videos are almost like watching 90s instructional tapes.

Paul is a legend

@Everythingblackpowder

Жыл бұрын

He sure is.

@BlackChowder

8 ай бұрын

Paul Is golden

@mikebaker5552

4 ай бұрын

Even more relevant now.

Paul Harrell's 'presentations' are on my routine watch list as are yours now that i've found the channel haha

@Everythingblackpowder

9 ай бұрын

Glad to hear it.

I beg to differ, Paul is "The Legend".

Almost 200yards with a pistol caliber shooting to point of aim. Very Impressive.

@Everythingblackpowder

Жыл бұрын

We thought so

@nonokodog622

Жыл бұрын

@@Everythingblackpowder I suspect the drop is there. What *could* be happening, is that the cross wind is providing lift.

Impressive shooting!!

@Everythingblackpowder

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Thanks for understanding that getting real powder can be difficult.

I love Paul Harrell's 'presentations' the man is a gift to the shooting community, and a wide source of knowledge. This channel like Paul's Is top shelf in understanding Black powder propellant's as where 777 is concerned it is what it is a good quality propellent. not as good as the top end toilet paper powder. still it works and works well. Its a handy powder to keep in reserve for when your to busy to make the good stuff.

Great video. Glad to see someone testing out and going against the rules and proving it works well.

@Everythingblackpowder

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

@rationalmind6362

Жыл бұрын

@@Everythingblackpowder I have the 30" Uberti 1873 45 colt. I planned on using 40 grains 3 f black powder. But I'm wondering how 4f would work. Real blackpowder, not substitutes. Have you tried 4f blackpowder in the 45 colt cartridge ?

@Everythingblackpowder

Жыл бұрын

@@rationalmind6362 yes I tested it in this video kzread.info/dash/bejne/gH5hy5mLoK-3abw.html Around the 14:00 mark. It worked very well.

@rationalmind6362

Жыл бұрын

@@Everythingblackpowder Thank you so much. Love the channel.

Black powder is practically unattainable in my area. I have seen it at a gun show and the can looked 30 years old. Catch Midway a few years ago waiving hazmat fees and bought some but not enough. So Trip 7 has been my powder of choice.

@bigracer3867

Жыл бұрын

Yea real BP is not available where I live that I can find. Have to make my own real stuff

@Everythingblackpowder

Жыл бұрын

Nothing wrong with that

@mattfleming86

Жыл бұрын

I have never seen a can in the wild in my area. I was given a vintage can of Goex that came out of a deceased man's estate, other than that it's unobtanium. Sooooooo i'm seasoning grapevine as we speak.

Glad to see someone is trying the 3F in cartridges. I've used the 2F T7 in 38-40, 45 colt, 44 mag, and 357 in handguns and rifles, and it works, but I shoot what I load within a couple weeks. T7 attracts water and can solidify, making it sketchy for bottle neck cartridges, or it can become less potent, leaving you with a stuck bullet. In my opinion, I don't want to load cartridges for long-term storage with a very hydrophilic powder.

@blueduck9409

Жыл бұрын

If you store your pyrodex ammo in a zip lock bag and put it in a ammo can with a good seal, the pyrodex loads will keep a pretty long time. I guess it also depends where you live. Some areas have higher humidity levels than other places. Still, try storing your pyrodex loads as i mentioned and see if it helps you any. It should.

@0neDoomedSpaceMarine

Жыл бұрын

Gather up some leftover desiccant bags and tape them onto surfaces where you store your ammo. Apply a bit of lacquer around the primer and case mouth, maybe?

@eskimo_airgunner2314

Жыл бұрын

I just know that if I don't use T7 for long-term storage in cartridges, then I don't have to worry about powder caking (daming). Even Hodgon used to have a warning about T7 caking (daming). I buy bulk desiccant silica beads off Amazon to make desiccant packs for my homemade BP. Pyrodex and BP seem to be easy enough for me to get that I don't have to rely on T7. I have a few pounds of T7 to play with, but I buy BP and Pyrodex more often and supplement my shooting with homemade.

I loved the long range shots and hearing the projectiles wiz away, it's something that isn't usually heard on videos.👌🤙

@Everythingblackpowder

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

I like it too. It's also pretty easy to clean, faster than Go-Ex. It's expensive, that's true, but I find it's a '' hotter'' powder than Go-Ex so when I'm loading Triple 7 I'm loading lighter loads so that makes more rounds out of a pound of powder.

@Everythingblackpowder

Жыл бұрын

Excellent

That notice about cartridges is because it is sensitive to air space (real black can be that way too).... It won't group well with air space in the cases because the burn is erratic and with a lot of space can be dangerously so. Real BP ignites much more easily than 777 so a little bit of air space is OK-ish with black, but not ideal. With 777, which runs best with a lightly compressed loads to give consistent velocities and smaller groups it's pretty consistent. I have used 777 in shotgun rounds, but with no air space, and in front stuffers of course, both of which which have lightly compressed charges. Of all the sub, 777 is way out in front IMHO, but that notice about cartridges was well founded. It used to be on 3f and 2f, but recently I have only seen it on 2F. I use 777 if I cannot get, or make, real BP dame charges as BP by volume....it works and it's better than not shooting.... Yes it is a wee bit 'hotter' than BP giving higher velocities, and I do wonder at the peak pressures that that entails. Measuring that would take equipment that I do not have, but the sharper recoil impulse tells me that there is a brief pressure peak considerably higher than real BP for the same velocity at the muzzle. This is no issue with modern repro arms, but it might be in a 200 year old Damascus set up..... so.....

My best friend/mentor/shooting legend, has 900 yds of target shooting at his property. We so appreciate hearing people tell us how easy a few hundred yards is, or better, your handgun is no good past 25 yds. Lol. We always invite them out. Sometimes they come. Thx again. Great video and info.

@Everythingblackpowder

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

I have been hand loading for 46 years have 45 long colt in pistol and rifle never loaded with anything but smokeless power. Love this cartridge very accurate enjoyed this presentation

@Everythingblackpowder

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

I’ve have loaded T7 ff and T7 fff (with necessary adjustments) in .38, .45colt, .45-70 & .38-55 for quite a while with same results you “presented”. In my .38-55 buffalo classic it really shines! Thank you for another great video! I would like to see a more extensive accuracy test if your feeling it. Oh! I can attest, tummies do have their ups and downs…

I load with 777 fairly often for Cowboy Action events. I don’t remember chronographing any of the maybe 5 metallic cartridges I use it in, but found best accuracy with no compression, but no airspace. I use 777 because I can use regular lead bullets with their crayon lube and load in my progressive press and powder drop. It is also very easy to clean and tolerant of missing a day to clean. The 3f leaks around my powder drop so 2f is better for that, but 3f gives a bit more energy and smoke. I do miss the proper sound and smell of Black Powder though. 😊

Another fine 'production' Jake, thanks for posting !

@Everythingblackpowder

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

Enjoying these load tests and its peaking my Curiosity for load developments in the future. Good Stuff.

@Everythingblackpowder

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

Glad you did this video makes me feel even better about my love of 777

@Everythingblackpowder

Жыл бұрын

It definitely kicks ass in 45 Colt

You need to try black horn 209. That's some amazing stuff too. And thank you for all the content and keep it coming.

@Everythingblackpowder

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

Love 777 especially in my NAA companion

Well Paul's pretty fancy despite his varied jacket choices :)

Kids, may be the only thing more enjoyable than making big clouds of smoke and sometimes just as confounding.

Paul Harrell is a master of his craft, so yeah, they are presentations. Your work is great and they are videos.

@Everythingblackpowder

Жыл бұрын

That’s the joke. Glad you got it…

@nonokodog622

Жыл бұрын

@@Everythingblackpowder You are building a shit ton of knowledge. One day you will be a bad ass with presentations.

@Everythingblackpowder

Жыл бұрын

@@nonokodog622 thanks but I prefer the term “video”

Great video and enjoy the last part. They grow up to fast

@Everythingblackpowder

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

Man i want to reload so bad, i got into loading with the lee hand loader and cant find any primers anywhere, 45 colt has always been my favorite cartridge and i love shooting bear rounds through my 454 rossi, your videos inspire me to continue in learning everything i can about the load data to continue to pursue this passion safely, thank you.

@Everythingblackpowder

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. Glad to hear it.

Enjoy you presentation!😊

@Everythingblackpowder

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

Great presentation!

@Everythingblackpowder

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

Always enjoy your content 👍🏻

@Everythingblackpowder

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

I personally love your videos, aka, presentations extremely informative as well as useful information thanks so much for taking the time to make them. Cheers from what's left of the Great White North!

Thanks Jake really enjoyed it.

@Everythingblackpowder

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

Great Googly Moogly you're a mad lad. I feel like such a little girl for just re loading 12 gage for my single shot. Its a hit at the skeet range

1,200 ft lbs. is nothing to sneeze At. That would make a good whitetail load. That especially in areas where rifles are restricted to straight wall cartridges.

Nice presentation. I guise I now know what I'm useing if I get into cartridges.

I know you meant, "your own damn presentation".

Grate bit of info

Great video. Nothing like being a parent man. But grandparenting is even more fun.

You know what it's your channel you do it anyway you want to do it and I'll watch it. The only person you have to please is yourself! Things is about to get squirrely. So stay vigilant!

Thank you for this test. We don't love 777, but it is all I can get easily around my area.

@Everythingblackpowder

Жыл бұрын

Fair enough

Great video, I've been loading 45 Colt cartridges with Blackhorn 209 with good results. Thank you for another great video.

@Everythingblackpowder

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Karl

Well done. Thanks

@Everythingblackpowder

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

Definitely enjoy watching you shoot😅

Great shootin’ at almost 200 yards ( OK, 192) offhand, with a carbine.

@Everythingblackpowder

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

Awesome video

@Everythingblackpowder

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

Miraculous! Lol, Jake do what you must, personally my friend and I used to make fun of guys that only shot paper targets at black powder events, only harmless heckling, we found it to be boring, but realize there is alot of information can be gained from "putting it on paper " ! Do what you must do and I'll watch and poke fun! LOL

I love the info, yet I keep coming back to watch just for the fun of the: "Go make your own damn video" statement at the end.

LOL! if you turn on closed captioning, when your daughter speaks it says "music". Another good "presentation" on the whole 777 thing. I have not ever shot it but from your results it looks like maybe I should give it a try.

Thank- you

@Everythingblackpowder

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

Stuff works fine. I've been running it in 45 colt in Schofield and 1866 Uberti clone, and 45-70 in viintage Springfields. It does gunk up the Schofield and the 1866 pretty quick.

@Mis-AdventureCH

Жыл бұрын

I must admit, however, that IMR 3031 in the Springfields produces way tighter groups.

aahh the end of that presentation , you gotta love it lol ,,cheers big ears from down under #CASHisKING #noCBDC

I like it just the way you do it !!!!😃

@Everythingblackpowder

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

Paul Harrell comes across as "OPINIONATED". He knows every nerd argument within the firearm community.

nice test i could use it in my 44 mag like the 777 but don t like the pyrodex

One thing I have noticed, your vids and others, doing chronograph tests: The first shot ALWAYS is the fastest. Is it. the cold dry barrel, the clean barrel, the Chrono waking up or the gods favor the 1st shot? Don't know why but both your vids plus others, and my own personal experience, regardless of propellant, this is the case. Good vid by the way.

@Everythingblackpowder

Жыл бұрын

I hadn’t noticed.

Good video

Great video, I am going to have to try it with the Triple 7 I have.

I will have to try it In my 38 spl re loads. Very cool always enjoy your presentations. Paul Harrell is also a great channel.

@Everythingblackpowder

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

Although I love The Holy Black, i might have to give 777 a try

Very very impressive. That would be a good hunting or self defense round . Would never have though of it.

@blueduck9409

Жыл бұрын

If pyrodex is the only powder you have for 45 colt, then thats not too bad at all.

very good performance at nearly 200 yards with a .45 Long Colt. .45 Long Colt factory ammo in my Henry Big Boy is Slow and drops quickly.

Paul is the man ❤

Great presentation! Do you have distributors in your area that sell single containers of real BP? Also, it is interesting that the 1st shot is the only one that exceeded 1500 fps.

Haha, it's a miracle!

@Everythingblackpowder

Жыл бұрын

praise the lord

Schmucks do videos, Paul Harrell does presentations. 😆

That's pretty darn good shootin.

@Everythingblackpowder

7 күн бұрын

Thank you

From what ive seen, its pretty versatile for cartridges. Ive tried the FF in 38 spcl already. Wish i would have gotten the FFF. I think the FF will be good for the .410 I am planning to load.

@Everythingblackpowder

Жыл бұрын

I think the 3F would perform well in a 38spl or 38 long Colt.

There used to be a ballistics video on the Internet, but I can’t find it anymore. I was curious if you can re-create it. It’s just a basic ballistics test of a 54cal round ball versus a cowboy bone.

Little kids are so damn funny 😂 great content, I sometimes use 777 for shotguns, work really good in them also.

Been using Triple 7 2f in 410 goes bang and shoots pellets out the barrel,better than nothing.

I generally stick to percussion and cartridge guns. Pyrodex is easy for me to find, and I have my loads figured out with it. Plus living in an apartment making my own black would probably be frowned on by my landlord and my fiancée. As for no 777 in cartridges i think thats new. They use to publish load data for it.

Another great "presentation"😆👍 As to that stuff, the price is going to have to come down considerably before it's good in my book.

Like the honestly man, it's good to have options if anything and now I'd say 777 is at least an option. I wasn't sure having fought pyrodex corrosion for the last time, this I may try. Thanks

NOT sucky. Like you, I found 777 to be very energetic, but with far greater ES than real black, or even some smokeless loads. Great for typical open-sight frontstuffer ranges, but no bueno for something like the Quigley Match, as vertical stringing gets exaggerated at anything much over 250 yards. But I'm hopeful you find a "magic" load that tightens up those velocity extremes...might cause me to take another look at it.

I was going to let you know before you even asked. Paper! Yes! ES means nothing if you can't group. Especially with BP or substitute. What with the fouling and whatnot. Get a bench, get some bags, and get someone that can still shoot irons. I don't care if you shoot at 25yds, most guys can figure it out. If you can't shoot 3-5 shots touching at 25yds you certainly don't need to be shooting 5" groups at 50. 45 Colt has been driving me nuts in repro lever actions. I would love to see your groups with Trip7. Oh, and Paul is probably just being precise in his wording. I mean, you didn't actually "video" this, did you? I know I didn't watch it on my VCR ;) Now go put some albums in your 5-stage CD player and think up some new presentations! LOL Thanks for the video! :)

@Everythingblackpowder

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

In my opinion, powders are tools like any other tool. I got into BPCR because the Sharps in 45-70 I have seems to give its best accuracy with true black powder (swiss 1.5 to be exact). I never understood the Smokeless vs Black Powder or Black Powder vs Substitute BP arguments. My philosophy has always been, find out what works best for you and use it. I personally have an affinity for how things used to be done and trying to recover lost knowledge, so I lean toward true Black powder, but if I find a substitute that performs just as well and can be had more easily, I'm going to use it too.

I like using triple 7 for my plinking loads, its easy to stop by the store and grab a can instead of ordering $200 worth of swiss. I save the real stuff for hunting and serious target shooting. 55gr of 2F Triple 7 under a 405gr bullet is a nice shooting round, and 35gr for my 45 colt conversion NM army and NM army carbine shoots very nice.

Now I have confidence that it probably won't blow up my Marlin 94! 😎 👍

@Everythingblackpowder

Жыл бұрын

It worked great in mine.

@kbjerke

Жыл бұрын

@@Everythingblackpowder So I *noticed!!*

@usualsuspect5173

Жыл бұрын

Give it time

Here's an idea for some new "presentations" try a series called "Will it black powder?" where you carbonize various material and try to make BP out of it. Stuff like junk mail, cardboard, peach pits and whatever else would be interesting.

Maybe a heavier projectile will give ya less spread. Since 777 seems to be more powerful than authentic BP, a heavier bullet might flatten the arch a bit. 🤔

EBP, I agree with you on shooting paper being boring. I would be interested in the results, though. BTW that's damn good shooting in my book as well. 200-ish yards off hand 👍 Question (as always 😁) : Do just clean the barrel and bolt face after shooting BP or do you tear it down and really clean it? Oh, and ya can't call it a 'presentation' cause then you would have to change your end tag line! 😉

@Everythingblackpowder

Жыл бұрын

If I just shoot 18 or 24 rounds I don’t usually tear the entire thing down.

@blueduck9409

Жыл бұрын

@@Everythingblackpowder paper targets might be boring, but for me, it gives me a general idea of accuracy. It lets me know what kind of groups to expect with a specific load. I would like to see paper results just for that reason.

@thetraveler5798

Жыл бұрын

Agree it would be interesting 2 see in this case. Impressive👍 Shooting, only thing missing was the old thumb/tong/barrel gesture 😁😁😁😎🤙

Nice presentation 😂

@Everythingblackpowder

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

I'll be the guy to say that 200y freehand out of a pistol cartridge with iron sights is good shooting and I couldn't do it. Did you mention how clean/dirty it is in the gun? If so I missed it, sorry.

@Everythingblackpowder

Жыл бұрын

I need to do a side by side comparison with the 777 and real black powder. I didn’t really notice it being any different than black powder as far as fouling goes.

hope paul is dolng all right good job jake

Cool man. That's what I found. I did some 777 .45-70 rounds and shot them out of my 32" barreled Buffalo Classic I had. It did really well with that one also. ;) I do watch for crud rings though with 777 because that's it's one fail for me. After shooting about 60 rounds in an afternoon, I started noticing some pressure signs and hard kick and sure enough, it'd formed a crud ring just ahead of the chamber. If you use a good bronze brush and some solvent every 30 or so shots, it keeps it under control better in my finding. Did you notice any on your lever gun?

@Everythingblackpowder

Жыл бұрын

No but I only loaded 20 or so

Hey Jake, so I tried the Triple 7 3Fg in my 45-70 since real BP is a bugger to get ahold of in Utah. It worked really well in my Browning 1886 with a 26” barrel. I’d like to see if you can replicate my success with it. I used a 405 grain RNFP with 60 grains by volume and a .030 card between powder and bullet. My average velocity was 1485fps with a max spread of 10 and standard deviation of 3.6. Hope you find this experiment fun.

I use the 777 only in my inline, but my flintlock, percussions, and pistols only get real black powder just like God intended.

Did the cases show any signs of high pressures? Great video.

@Everythingblackpowder

Жыл бұрын

Yes, the primers were more flattened out.

@dougdukes1039

Жыл бұрын

So I guess that means not something for a steady diet.

I agree 👍 to my standards off hand lever action pistol cartridge at almost 200 is pretty damn good. The guys that claim that that's easy are lying. Lol I think Paul would agree with you That's pretty damn good . I'm with you though I would rather have real black powder with more consistent velocity and it's just traditional. Thank you 👍

@Everythingblackpowder

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

I find watching paper punching boring as well. I can watch it but not a lot of it. I have shot Pyrodex in a 45/70 Ruger No1 and it was very accurate for what that is worth. Just a real pain to clean

How dirty was it compared to Swiss? Enough that fouling would have built up enough to reduce accuracy over a larger number of shots? I have never found anything nearly as clean as Swiss, but I have never tried 777.

@Everythingblackpowder

Жыл бұрын

It definitely doesn’t seem any cleaner than Swiss. I would say Its right on par with Swiss but I would have to do a side by side comparison to be sure.

I shot every powder known to man, I hadn't told anyone but 777. Shoots through my small calibers better than any other powder .scores the best groups..I do not know why...

humm, interesting, wonder how it would work in my oiginal 1873 Winchester . Cal 38 WCF. something to think about.

@Everythingblackpowder

Жыл бұрын

I would start light on an original firearm like that.

Im trying to choose between a 357 and 45 lc lever action for blueberry hunting and survival. Of course i will buy a bunch of ammo but will have a lot of empty casings. What would you consider as being better for reloading with BP? (I have a lead cast for .454 round ball have no clue if that will work) I'm an avid archer and now also getting hooked on guns... Black powder route. Like your content.

I just got here from ILoveMuzzleloading

@Everythingblackpowder

9 ай бұрын

Howdy

✅

You know what would work even better? 2400

@Everythingblackpowder

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

Pyrodex makes some pretty good stuff. People that try it usually can admit it works well. 1,400 to 1,500 feet per second is 44 magnum velocities. If you get that, and good accuracy out of 45 colt, then yes that is impressive. As always, i like the video / presentation, and you did some good shootin!

@RealDeanWinchester

Жыл бұрын

Why would you bother with pyrodex in 44 magnum? That makes as much sense as hitching a horse to a Honda.

@blueduck9409

Жыл бұрын

@@RealDeanWinchester lol. I mean that getting 1,400 feet per second out of a 45 colt is comparable to smokless 44 magnum. I did not mean to imply that 777 should be loaded in a 44 magnum. However, now that you bring it up, that might make an interesting video.

@RealDeanWinchester

Жыл бұрын

@@blueduck9409 I gotcha.

@blueduck9409

Жыл бұрын

@@RealDeanWinchester you know we live in times where its difficult to find loading supplies. There might be people out there that cant find or cant afford smokless 44 magnum loading components that might have to make do with pyrodex and lead cast bullets for their 44 magnum. Id kinda like to see a video on it, if anything just to see how well it works.

@RealDeanWinchester

Жыл бұрын

@@blueduck9409 yeah, I thought about that afterward. Excellent point.

I like shooting black powder 45LC rounds on my Puma 454 cassul. and I have been thinking on loading some 454 cassul rounds with 777 w/ 300gr LFP Dont know if I should start my load at 40 or 45 FFG

@Everythingblackpowder

Жыл бұрын

Start at 40 and work up. I would like to see that