Quick Correction the PA12 is 48kg or 105lb. Hope you guys enjoy the video!

@Carebearcrbr

2 жыл бұрын

How would you compare to the PA12/14 to the Compass after using that for a while now?

Had the PA12, the 2018 outback and now 2021 compass for me by far the compass is a beast best Hobie kayak by a long shot.!

Love my compass camo bought from hws last November, the best hobie dealer going around. Very accommodating and helpful. Another awesome review!

@ByronTeaHill

3 жыл бұрын

Mate, glad you liked the review! Cheers for the comment - it means a lot. - Byron

Thanks for putting the video out there. You inform and present these products really well

@ByronTeaHill

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and thanks for the feedback Andy

Absolutely great video. I love my new Outback and have ordered a Compass for my teen son, and this vid not only reinforces what I already observed, but made some great points I hadn’t considered. Finally, the upgrade recommendations are spot on. Thanks for a great video. Subscribed.

@ByronTeaHill

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Wes! Bloody legend. Really glad you enjoyed the video bud

Thank you! I’m learning so much! I bought a compass two weeks ago and theses videos are teaching me so much,

@ByronTeaHill

2 жыл бұрын

Glad to help Joan

Thorough review, I love it! Thanks Byron 👍🏼 another ripper vid

@ByronTeaHill

3 жыл бұрын

Legend Jamie thanks mate

Love the longer videos Byron, great editing also!

@ByronTeaHill

3 жыл бұрын

Yewww! thanks Radish, appreciate it man

Been hanging for this review as I put a deposit on a Compass last month. The vid pretty much backs up my decision that I’m really happy with. I’m currently in. PA14 so the Berley Pro handle looks a must. Thanks heaps Byron!

@ByronTeaHill

3 жыл бұрын

Nice mate! You’ll enjoy it buddy

Thanks for the great information. Cheers from Canada 🇨🇦

Great review, really liked the details around the leg space and seat size.

@ByronTeaHill

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Watto! good to see you back mate

Great review thanks for sharing

Great review. Tanks. Regards from Portugal

Awesome review!

Excellent review Byron definitely some food for thought for my next purchase.

@ByronTeaHill

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it Paul. Thanks mate

Great video Byron ,nailed it mate, Compass owner now for 2 years,best kayak ive owned ,so light ,so quick yet stable as,best kayak for effortless travel between spots

@ByronTeaHill

3 жыл бұрын

It really did surprise me hey Clint. Easy to use

Enjoyed the review and some quality insights. Easy to see why they are so popular.

@ByronTeaHill

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it Paul, thanks for the comment mate

Great review Byron

@ByronTeaHill

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks buddy

Awesome review! I didn't think about turning speed of Compass. Fun to watch.

@ByronTeaHill

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it Jimmy

Great review, as always. Nailed it.

@ByronTeaHill

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Steve

Looking at buying a hobie and this video has given me some quality information and things to consider. Cheers

@ByronTeaHill

2 жыл бұрын

Glad I could help

Terrific review. Well done.

@ByronTeaHill

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you

As always great video mate🤙🎣

@ByronTeaHill

3 жыл бұрын

Legend!

Love ya vids Byron 👍 I love the reviews but just keen to see you fishing with the same awesome commentary that comes with your reviews. I thinking your in lock down and that’s stuffed things up ??

Great review. You have swayed me from buying the entry Passport 12 to the Compass. Thank you.

@ByronTeaHill

3 жыл бұрын

Glad I could help

Great review.

Awesome review mate 👍

@ByronTeaHill

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Matt

Greetings from the States. Went through the pros/cons compass/outback in December 2020. Chose outback over compass b/c of all the accessory upgrades necessary to put the compass on par with the outback. Happy with my decision. Appreciate your videos.

@ByronTeaHill

3 жыл бұрын

No problems at all Victor! Mate glad your loving the outback, she is a beast

interesting review mate. i am looking for a kayak and the hobie outback is one of the brands i am looking at. will defiantly look at the compass now and those upgrades. i have the 2021 hewes 21(imported from the US)so being able to put the kayak on the roof is a bonus. thx Byron.

@ByronTeaHill

3 жыл бұрын

No worries Stephen, glad you enjoyed it

Solid review mate

@ByronTeaHill

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

Nice review mate, My father inlaw loves his compass. That fish at the end.... wow that was big... bugger

@ByronTeaHill

3 жыл бұрын

yeah she was a big one.... and there goes big bream! hahaha

Really good information.

@ByronTeaHill

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate

Nice review. I’ve owned the outback ‘18 and ‘19. Now have the PA12 ‘20. I tried out the compass initially and loved it’s zip and maneuverability on the water but not the storage and feature set. That being said I’m disliking the PA12 in bad weather, frankly the outback was better on the water and had much better fishing gear storage… but I’m now considering the compass because of its better (seemingly) ability in big swell and wind which I’ve had to deal with much of this year. So very nice video, I have some thinking to do…!

Hey Byron great video. Shame i didn't get to watch it in time for the giveaway, i love my 2018 compass. Also if you decide to keep it or just want to try it out, the pa sailing rudder fits the compass with a small chop to rudder for even more improved turning circle. cheers for the video loved it

Best Compass Review I’ve seen

@ByronTeaHill

2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate that

Looking good got me in

In an older model compass atm but definitely putting my dollars away for one of these! Cheers for the awesome vid

@ByronTeaHill

3 жыл бұрын

Good choice!

Ah I'm late video is awesome as to be expected hope your well bud

@ByronTeaHill

3 жыл бұрын

Mate!!! It’s youtube, the videos are always on here for whenever it suits you! I’m just bloody pumped you keep coming back dude!

Great vid mate! now to afford one for myself haha

@ByronTeaHill

3 жыл бұрын

It’s a little like that isn’t it

Thanks Byron, a really informative and attractive video as always. How can I not opt for the Compass after listening to your lucid appraisal?! With a few simple mods this kayak becomes a very capable workhorse with attributes that suit a slightly different fishing space than the heavier hobie battleships….just as select rods/reels/lures are used to target different fish species. Cheers.

Good vid. Rekon i will go the passport 12, can then use 1000 to pimp it abit. An im not out in the big blue much cheers

Great video! I've owned a 2018 Hobie Compass and recently upgraded to the 2020 Hobie Outback. One thing you didn't mention about the Hobie Compass is that if you plan on using the latest fish finders on the market, the transducers are too big for the Lowrance ready plates. The best, and probably only option, is to purchase a BerleyPro cover for it. And the cost for one as well as the inconvenience of now having a new lower point of the kayak bottom is a big deal breaker for me and potentially a lot of other folks. Having the new Hobie Guardian system is an amazing feature that should be mentioned.

@ByronTeaHill

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Dennis! You are right mate I should have mentioned that buddy. Well picked up and thank you for the comment mate. Thanks again.

@maintrain6114

2 жыл бұрын

Just thought I'd ask, is the 21 compass compatible with the guardian plate? I own a Garmin 5CV so the stock plate won't work so well

Stabilty over speed for me.great vid cheers

Hell yes I will have one

Nice review as always, Byron! Been thinking of switching to a Compass. What's your thought of the kick-up fins that comes with the 2021 Compass?

@emjay0507

3 жыл бұрын

I’m so glad my 180 came with kick ups, can’t count the number of times I’ve hit something unseen, the fins would be buggered by now if they didn’t get themselves out of the way.

@ByronTeaHill

3 жыл бұрын

I like them, always give me confidence when I’m in shallow water I’m not going to bend the masts into the fins.

Had my compass for a while now and love it . For transportation I have lock racks so easy. Love the steering handle upgrade and the seat risers, do the extra height make the kayak seem more tippy or about the same? Thanks for a great review.

@ByronTeaHill

3 жыл бұрын

Not that I could tell mate.

@hoboadventure4715

3 жыл бұрын

@@ByronTeaHill thanks mate. Just ordered the seat risers and handle.

It’s always a great morning when one of your vids are uploaded 👍 Shared it to my FB Page 👍 Tried to Tag you in the post, FB said nope 👎 How much does it weigh mate?

@ByronTeaHill

3 жыл бұрын

It’s at the end of the video - 31kg from memory

@collieyak971

3 жыл бұрын

@@ByronTeaHill that part would have been when the kids got rowdy I recon

Hey Byron love your videos and have used them to get up to speed with the issues around fishing kayaks. I have decided the Compass is for me. Which leads me to my next question??? Have you sold it yet? I’m interested 😁

@ByronTeaHill

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you like them! Yes compass was sold a little while ago

My main thing is i need to be able to attach a motor… i live extremely close to Niagara Falls and most of the even slow moving creeks in my area eventually flow into the extremely strong Niagara River which would essentially be gameover for me lol

My wife has a compass and I just ordered 2022 in camo for myself. Weight was big concern for me. Was between outback and compass. Certainly cannot go wrong with either but for me just an easier kayak for me to handle and I want to car top it with my Jeep. Also when I use her compass it takes a small effort to hold consistent speed. I’m a little concerned about 2022 seat clips but shall see…

I was going to purchase a compass but found a used outback for 2500 USD. I went that route mainly because of the dual steering handles. If the compass would have had those it would have been a no brainer because I thought everything you said about it. The only issues is all the little upgrades Hobie has you do. They need to have one set up like you had. If they did the guardian plate and dual handles it would be awesome.

@ByronTeaHill

3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree Mark, thanks for the the comment mate!

hey Byron, how hard is it to mount on the roof rack. I'd love to see a video of this for all hobies other that are roof mountable.

@ByronTeaHill

3 жыл бұрын

pretty easy, I'd say it depends on your vehicle, but was super easy for me to get it onto my 4x4

Seems more suited to me than the PA14, the weight of it was always problematic for me. I’ll definitely consider this if I ever save enough to be able to get another yak

@ByronTeaHill

3 жыл бұрын

Possibly!

Hello , GREAT video ! I have an eye for this Kayak ,and I want to ask you if you 've tested it in salt water and rough weather ! I'm from Greece and I 'll be fishing in Aegean and Ionian Pelagos (tricky waters, eastern Mediterranean ) ! I 'll appreciate your response !

Another awesome unbiased review Byron Pros and cons and reviewing a top entry level Hobie Kayak that can accommodate both the casual weekend fisher person or a tournament angler I have to fully agree with your findings as we have 3 Hobie compass kayaks in the family and we use them flat out and could not be happier!

@nathandowling6637

3 жыл бұрын

And so light to get off the roof first up in the mornings too lol

@ByronTeaHill

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate 👍always happy when you're helping me offload the kayak on a tournament morning. appreciate the comment Nathan!

Just bought a 2021 compass in camo with the 180° kick back turbo fins. I could have bought the 2022 model but I liked the seat better on the 2021. Looks like they down graded the seat for 2022.

I was so close to get the compas, but last minute decision made me go back to the outback... probably will get the compas next..or not..to hard to choose..😆

@ByronTeaHill

3 жыл бұрын

Hahahahah! Hope you’re doing well Cedric! Good luck at Nambucca mate

Cant believe I've just noticed this vid. I've got the 2019 and I've loved it. Will be putting in the seat risers soon, it is a pain to try and get to your items under there. Also the rudder kills me slightly every time i'm in a current. Me: I want to go left. steer left. Kayak: oh you want to go left? lets go right...

@ByronTeaHill

2 жыл бұрын

yeah that sucks... try the outback! its worse. haha, thanks for getting involved Laura

Wish you had access to the Passport 12 R. Strongly considering it.

Great mate now I can’t choose between getting an outback or compass lol.

@ByronTeaHill

3 жыл бұрын

Good problems to have!

My main thing is i need to be able to attach a motor… i live extremely close to Niagara Falls and most of the even slow moving creeks in my area eventually flow into the extremely strong Niagara River which would essentially be gameover for me if i get too tired to paddle or pedal anymore lol

Great review. I'm trying to decide between the Compass and the Outback. My biggest concern with the Outback is that it weighs 20 more pounds. At 85 lbs, I think the Outback isn't going to be nearly as easy to handle and get into the water. I have a pickup truck, so either would fit fine, but I will be loading and unloading it (as well as storing it) by myself often, and that 20 lbs seems non-trivial. My concern with the Compass is the seat. I have heard the Compass seat isn't as good as the Outback. Do you have any comments on the comfort or design of the seat for the Compass versus Outback? I know this review is several months old, so I understand if you don't reply.

@ByronTeaHill

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Kevin, thanks very much for the comment, The outback seat is better than the compass but only marginally. The thing to consider if you're a heavier gentleman is that there's a bar across the back of the seat on the compass that you may push against if as the seat compress's down. you'll see it when you look at photos, but thats probably why I say the outback is better

can I fit a garmin striker plus 7sv transducer in the compass without getting external housing? My passport 12 can fit

For the same price, if was to do it again, Id do an Old Town Sportsman 120 PDL.

The compass wins for me because it is light, but when you go and add that super heavy rectangular hatch you lose half of the win. I chose to optimise things with the round hatch only.

Hey Byron I believed I had made an inquiry through the correct channels for the compass & the special attached yesterday. A day late so probably not in the first 5 now. I also did asked about the the discounted price on the options. Still haven't heard anything of yet.

@ByronTeaHill

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Jed, the discounted price bundle is now on their website, the link is in the video description. I just spoke to them, they haven’t got your message. I’d give them a call tomorrow Jed.

@jedyoung7213

3 жыл бұрын

@@ByronTeaHill cheers heaps buddy. I snuck in by the hair of my chin. Pretty sure the Mrs is going to yank hard on that chin hair. Your video once again was wicked. It was also the most expensive video I have watched. But the good times are ahead. Cheers again.

@jedyoung7213

3 жыл бұрын

Hi @@ByronTeaHill. Hey mate I'm wondering if you are interested on any feedback with HWS on the purchase of the Compass that I have made. May it be good bad or in proper due to availability.

Hi Byron, I've been watching a lot of kayak video reviews. I narrowed it down to three PDLs. Hobie Passport 12.0, Hobie Compass and Old Town Sportsman 12.0. I'd like your opinion on which one you think would be best for me. I'm a 5'11" 220 lb. reasonably fit soon to be 70 year old male. I'll be using the kayak for recreation as well as some fishing on smaller lakes and slow moving rivers. Your suggestion on one of these three (or any others you might recommend) is greatly appreciated. Thanks so much. Ben in Pa.

@ByronTeaHill

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Ben. I can’t Recommend the Hobie compass enough. From the three you mentioned, that’s what I would buy :)

@benjaminskobel2847

3 жыл бұрын

@@ByronTeaHill Thanks Byron. I really appreciate you getting back to me with your recommendation. Have a great day! Ben

Gottan do the math here, and see how it would cost me to get the compass+ all the gear you upgraded, but counting taxes and maybe some shipping cost, i'm inclined to believe that the total price if not equal or more expensive, it would be very close to the outback. I honestly like the compass hull design more, and by your review it would perform better for sea fishing. You video was great, and gave me an option, so thank you for that!

@ByronTeaHill

2 жыл бұрын

no worries dude! remember you don't need all the extras, feel free to disregard what I think!

@Cinestesic

2 жыл бұрын

@@ByronTeaHill not at all! You have some very good points to take into consideration! 💪

@Cinestesic

2 жыл бұрын

@@ByronTeaHill so i've been looking out to our retailers, math donne, the outback is 4k, the compass almost 3k, the retangular hatch is 200€. The full upgrade might not reach the 4k mark, but for just a few bucks, i could get the outback. So at least in my country it might not be worth the effort! :)

I mainly fish saltwater and large open bays. Often it is choppy. How does the Compass compare to the Outback and PA in terms of stability? Thank you for this video.

@ByronTeaHill

2 жыл бұрын

Compass is better in weather than the outback. It’s about the same in the PA, but you can stand up and stretch the legs a little easier in the PA

Byron which pants you are using for cold months?

@ByronTeaHill

2 жыл бұрын

hey mate, Scott Lovig Kayak pants.

I had a compass as well as an Oasis, idea being I could use the compass solo of course. It turns out I would rather use the Oasis solo because the compass chairs are so damn uncomfortable. I sold the compass after 4 months.

Hi Bryon, is there any news about the Berley Pro high profile handle? been waiting for a whille now but still no update on their website.

@ByronTeaHill

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Will, it’s available as the Outback Handle

@willpang

3 жыл бұрын

@@ByronTeaHill thank you 🙏👍🏻

Can someone PLEASE do a video on loading and unloading this on a car using the compass loader @Byron Tea Hill

Is the camo version the only one with the 180 mirage drive or do all the compass 2021 have that drive?

@ByronTeaHill

3 жыл бұрын

I’m pretty sure they all come with the drive. The camo maybe has the longer fins.

As someone who owns a passport 12 and compass, I prefer the Passport 12. I have a fully rigged Passport 12 for the cost of my stock compass. The Passport seems a stable and as nimble in the water.

Byron only one question..feel free lure 13.5 v2 with overdrive..2500 euros Or Hobie compass for 3000 euros..only for sea usage.. Thank you for your time

@ByronTeaHill

2 жыл бұрын

Hey mate, no idea - I have never used the feel free lure 13.5, all I can tell you is the compass is a great kayak.

Hello Byron thank you for your nice review.. I live in Greece.. Iam Large guy.. Iam 1.98 cm and. 110 kg.. price for the outback here is 4120 euros! And for the compass 2914 Euros.. so compass without any seconds thought?

@ByronTeaHill

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not a big man, so I don't want to lead you in the incorrect direction. I've been told the compass is better than the outback for taller men. If you can find a place that is next to the water, you could try both?

@alexandroskafkas5647

2 жыл бұрын

@@ByronTeaHill we are 11 million people.and we have only 1 kayak shop! He have only available outback..for the compass i have to order and wait 3-5 months... Last question.. Alibaba have clones of outback and angler 14 at HDPE material and 90% same design...they call them u boat k5 and k8.. price 800 and 900 dollars!!!.. It would be interesting to see if they manange to get near Also at stability.. quality and other thinks... because price point difference is huge!!

Can you convert the Compass so it has dual steering? Or is one of those upgraded handles just a handle and not a steering lever?

@ByronTeaHill

3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately there’s no way to make it dual steering. Well not that I know of! Correct it’s just the handle you upgrade.

@allenuconn

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!!! I’m in the market for a kayak and based on your review I’m going to try and find a Compass.

Love my 2021 camp compass, can cruise at 6km and not notice, turns on a dime. I’ve made all the mods bar the handle. The rear space is crazy large with its fat butt. I’m not sure if you noticed the want to yaw when running with a choppy swell which is moving faster than you. You will sit up on the crest and the back will want to chase the front. I found running across the swell the compass handles it so much better. Roof topping and the price pushed me to the compass over the outback. Nice review, good to see the compass getting some love.

@ByronTeaHill

3 жыл бұрын

She deserves the love, glad you enjoyed the video. It’s pretty cool to hear other people have similar experiences! Appreciate the comment Matthew! Legend.

Do you think you'll be doing a review on the Hobie Revelation 13 sometime in the future

@ByronTeaHill

3 жыл бұрын

Hadn’t even thought about to, is that something you’d like to see?

@PelagicChaser

2 жыл бұрын

I was about to ask the same.

Hey definitely go with yr feelings and get the Compass save yrself some money and with yr upgrade skills you can make it how you want it Look can you tell me if my new purchases for a new Bream Buster my words not the shops vernacular or sales pitch. Anyhow reel a Daiwa Legalis 2500 spinning fishing reel which I intend on putting on 10lb straight through fleurocarbon mono the rod is a Shimano Maikuro ll spinning fishing rod 7ft 2-4kg will add while ive fished most of my life ive had only a few periods when I’ve actually been doing it the last year and a half I’ve been full on going at it fishing vids of you and people like RoKKiT KiT And Jason fish please let me know what you think of my combo

@ByronTeaHill

3 жыл бұрын

Mate I haven’t used both of those items, but both Miller and Daiwa I use. If it feels good in your hands and you like the rod, then who cares what other people say about the combo! Tight lines mate and good luck

@justinadams5159

3 жыл бұрын

Suppose the proofs in the pudding, so how it handles will be key and what’s in the keeper net at end of session is the acid test. Starlo has given his thumbs up to the rod anyway, you know Steve Starling.

Subscrived

PA14 for life or until the knees give out lol

@ByronTeaHill

3 жыл бұрын

Lol! Love it

@ngm589

3 жыл бұрын

Tourquito evolve. Lol.

But is the Compass better than the Passport?

@ByronTeaHill

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely

@stevesafety6743

3 жыл бұрын

@@ByronTeaHill $800 better? I can trick the Passport out for cheaper than a base Compass

@stevesafety6743

3 жыл бұрын

@@robhorner4281 $2499 vs $1699

I would never even dream of two steering handles, not necessary at all.

$3690 aud !!!! ffs its $5600 in new zealand

Justcwant something taxman carnt flip me. Bro sent me some viďs n yer outback for me. Cheers to all out there just scared