The concept of a 'Frankenvessel' is alive and well today. In 2005, the U.S.S. San Francisco, SSN-711, at a depth of 535 feet, doing a flank bell of over 30 knots, hit an uncharted seamount on their way to Guam. On sailor was fatally injured. However, despite all the damage, the submarine was able to surface and proceed to Guam under her own power. A few months later, I watched from the bridge of the U.S.S. John C. Stennis, CVN-74, as San Francisco sailed into Sinclair Inlet in Bremerton, Washington at the Puget Sound Naval Shipyard. Over a period of time, a little over two years, her bow was completely removed and replaced with the bow of the U.S.S. Honolulu, SSN-718, who was scheduled to be de-commissioned. U.S.S. San Francisco is planned to be converted to a training ship at the Naval Nuclear Training Unit in South Carolina. Three submarines have already proceeded her in that role.
@therenumerator91985 жыл бұрын
The sheer enthusiasm you have for history shows in all of your episodes. It is contagious, appreciated and always looked forward to. The range of subjects is truly amazing. Keep up the great work!
@TheLoxxxton5 жыл бұрын
Who ever came up with the name Zubian was a genius. Rare humour indeed
@googlesucks7840
5 жыл бұрын
It was either that or Nulu, I guess.
@RaoulThomas007
5 жыл бұрын
If fate were different, it may have become the Nubilu !
@collinsmakaumukungi991
5 жыл бұрын
The US submarine USS Squalus sank during tests, was salvaged and renamed USS Sailfish.The crew gave it a generic name Squalfish.
@jfloresmac
5 жыл бұрын
loxxxton: Thank you.
@backseatgamer7367
5 жыл бұрын
The drunk in me says hell ya. The engineer says hell no.
@dancolley42085 жыл бұрын
Hey, History Guy, the technique of joining two different cars is very common it the auto paint and body business. They call the part either a front clip or a rear clip. This technique has been used in airframe repair as well. My father was a shop foreman of a unit that was overhauling and repairing Army Huey helicopters that had sustained battle damage during the fighting in Vietnam. On one occasion, my Dad was faced with the decision of whether to strike two helicopters or repair one or both. As fate would have it, one was damaged in the rear portion and the other in the front. Since he was doing contract work for the USArmy, he proposed to them that they allow him to join the two undamaged parts and make one helicopter. They were skeptical but agreed to let him try it. After building a huge jig to hold the two helicopter halves, his shop successfully "made one from two". As a side note, when it came time for an Army test pilot to make the acceptance flight, my Dad said he noted some skepticism in the test pilot's attitude. When he told the pilot "Come on ... I'll fly with you", the skepticism disappeared and they had a flight with no major dings to resolve prior to acceptance. The Army, having saved a considerable amount of money, paid my old man a nice bonus for his initiative. This is a story worth remembering ... at least it was for me !!!
@RCAvhstape
5 жыл бұрын
Not quite the same, but after the Challenger accident, Rockwell assembled a replacement space shuttle out of structural spares which became Space Shuttle Endeavour. At first NASA considered refitting Enterprise for spaceflight, but that would've required disassembling the airframe and rebuilding major parts to bring her up to spec, so the Endeavor option was deemed cheaper.
@gromm93
5 жыл бұрын
The difference of course, was that for each of your examples, there were two exact copies of a mass-produced item with standard, interchangeable parts that *could* fit together properly. The Tribal class of destroyers, as the video notes, was not so standardised. Nor did it fit together properly to form the Zubian. :)
@dancolley4208
5 жыл бұрын
@@gromm93 I was intending to convey the concept only, not the similarity of the vehicles. I have seen Fords clipped to Chevys in hot rod shops. Hot rods or jalopies were built from parts of pick up trucks welded to Cadillacs. If there was a need, the same could be done with airplanes or ships. There are a lot of examples of "clips" being attached to destroyers that had their bows blown off by torpedoes but the rest of the ship being towed to a shipyard and having the bowof another tin can attached, one that had sustained damage to its stern section. Even if they were not in the same class, they were usually close enough to work. My only point was that the idea of fusing two different ships is not rare. I did NOT intend to stir up a hornet's nest. For every concept there of plenty of opposing concepts. Mine was only a story about my Dad.
@krashd
5 жыл бұрын
@@dancolley4208 In the UK a frankencar is known as a "cut n' shut" and are not road legal, if done incorrectly they can come apart at a very inopportune time.
@dancolley4208
5 жыл бұрын
@@krashd And if done properly, they are fine. The only way you can tell is by looking at the title to see if it's a "builder".
@seatedliberty5 жыл бұрын
Glad to see your "Geiger counter" hit the half a million mark. Congratulations, and here's to a half million more! Three cheers for the History Guy!
@paulcharlwood702
5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree!
@kenadair4607
5 жыл бұрын
seatedliberty , I suspect the subscription rate will start accelerating. When I first subscribed, I kept going back and watching old posts. They were all as good as the new ones. I never miss an episode. Some are more interesting to me than others. Worst case scenario is that the episode is merely fascinating. He’s got this distillation and articulation of interesting vignettes down pat.
@jnstonbely5215
Жыл бұрын
@@kenadair4607 I certainly agree with everyone’s endorsements of the superb work and presentations of The History Guy .🏅 My highest compliment to the THG is that He is my first “Go To” email of the day, and most days; .. helps to “make my day “ , as today’s incredible story about the HMS Zubian demonstrated . Bravo also to Great Britains’ Naval Engineers of WW I, who created a “ Franken” ship,but Hell: it did the job splendidly! 🎉
@paulcharlwood7025 жыл бұрын
Great story! I have told people about HMS Zubian myself and often get looked at askance as if it is some tall sea tale! Fortunately the second 'Tribal Class' commissioned in the Thirties were more rugged ships and they saw much action in the Second Great Unpleasantness. Might make for an interesting follow-up? One small correction; technically the head of the Royal Navy is the First Lord of the Admiralty, a politician appointed by government (Winston Churchill held the post at the start of both World Wars prior to resigning in the First after his role in the Gallipoli campaign and of course becoming Prime Minister in the Second after the fall of France). The First Sea Lord is a very senior commissioned naval officer, usually but not necessarily the most senior on the naval list, who serves as the head of the Naval Staff directly under the First Lord a bit like the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs serves under your President.
@anthonyhargis6855
5 жыл бұрын
The "First Lord of the Admiralty" is actually comparable to America's "Secretary of the Navy." All naval admirals answer to the Secretary of the Navy. In the U.S. ALL military branches -- and their Secretaries: Army, Navy, Air Force -- answer to the Secretary of Defense, who answers to the President. The "First Sea Lord" is comparable to America's "Chief of Staff of the Navy." The "Chairman of the Joint Chiefs" is comparable to the "Chief of the Imperial General Staff." The Chairman is the senior military adviser to the President, but is still subordinate to the Secretary of Defense.
@marklittle8805
5 жыл бұрын
The Tribals of the Second World War were the only Tribals I knew ....until now
@minuteman4199
5 жыл бұрын
There is one Tribal class destroyer still in existence. HMCS Haida is a museum ship in Hamilton Ontario, on the west end of Lake Ontario in Canada.
@ccg8658
5 жыл бұрын
"Second Great Unpleasantness" 😂😂😂😂😂😅😂
@paulcharlwood702
5 жыл бұрын
@@ccg8658A fairly commonly used British Forces expression. Squaddie humour!
@41plymouthnut875 жыл бұрын
Thank you for remembering the history most often ignored.
@donfelipe75105 жыл бұрын
Interesting story, I was talking with my father the other day who is now retired but worked on ships plying the Dover Straits for many years sailing between Dover and Calais and also Zeebrugge. He said to me that he sometimes thought about the history of the area in which he worked, made all the more visceral when his ship accidently hit a submerged wreck tearing off one of its propellers. The shear amount of wrecks in the area demonstrates that the Dover Straits were at the forefront of centuries of warfare between Britain and the continental powers, as well as the changeable and treacherous weather that also ended the careers of many ships and the lives of those aboard. At low tide some of the sandbanks with skeletal remains of wrecks even peak above the water where they sank and the area features light houses, light ships and marker buoys that warn sailors to keep away. However despite the dangers the locals of the area often sail out on spring tides to play cricket on the sandbanks that stay above the surface long enough for a match. I can imagine few pass times more English than this!
@Votrae5 жыл бұрын
500k! Well deserved for such an amazing channel!! Congratulations to you and your wife. I'm sincerely thankful for your content -- intriguing topics, excellent writing, and captivating delivery. Bravo!
@katieandkevinsears77245 жыл бұрын
Although this story doesn't involve pirates, it's still awesome. Love the British solution of putting two halves of different boats together.
@bigblue6917
5 жыл бұрын
There being no pirates in this story is true. But we all know that those who served on destroyers are part pirate at heart.
@scottbarber6694
5 жыл бұрын
@@bigblue6917 USS Forrest Sherman DD-931, 1962-3.
@tedthesailor172
4 жыл бұрын
They got the idea off an Essex car dealer...
@patagualianmostly7437
2 жыл бұрын
SHIPS if you please.... SHIPS. Boats are something altogether different. Cal a Submarine a boat... that is quite acceptable..... But never, ever, a SHIP.
@DamianMaisano5 жыл бұрын
For any who unaware; these were different than the famous Tribal class destroyers of WW2. The 1936 Tribal class were in contrast powerful anti-surface destroys meant to kill other destroyers with gunfire
@marklittle8805
5 жыл бұрын
I have been on the deck of the last one, the HMCS Haida, and you have no doubt they were the best of their type in the world when you see her. A sharp looking ship built for speed and packing a punch
@DamianMaisano
5 жыл бұрын
Mark Little Well, best of their type is a very debatable thing; something like a Somer is certainly in the running too. When it comes to looks that’s a different story; she wins hands down really. I’m goi)g to have to visit the Haida one day, such a great piece of history
@postscript675 жыл бұрын
Drifters were so called because they fished with drift nets. There was a huge fleet of them fishing for herring round Britain in the 19th and early 20th centuries. Incidentally, a common design of sailing drifter was called the Zulu.
@Artur_M.5 жыл бұрын
"Frankenvessel" is my new favorite term.
@RaoulThomas007
5 жыл бұрын
Artur M. I thought it was going to be called the [boat] *Draft Graft.*
@theeaselrider40325 жыл бұрын
That period of naval history is probably the the era that interests me most. I knew most of the more famous battles & stories about that time, but I didn't know this one. Thanks.
@oldgundog47055 жыл бұрын
The History Guy, History Gal, and History Cat, deserves to have patrons. If you love history, please consider supporting them on Patreon. It doesn't take deep pockets to help insure the best history channel on KZread continues to thrive.
@johnkelley98775 жыл бұрын
This was a fascinating story! I had not heard of H.M.S. Zubian but I knew there was a Tribal class set of destroyers. Thanks for information of her rebuild and actions in W.W.I.
@steveskouson96205 жыл бұрын
About 25 years ago, I was working at Douglas aircraft, building the MD-11. A friend told me about an airplane he and friends assembled, during WWII. A DC-2.5. Fuselage and 1 wing, from a DC-3, and another wing with engine from a DC-2. Franken-Gooney. I repair old laptops for fun and profit, almost always IBM/ Lenovo ThinkPads. I've seen numerous Franken-pads. Also, I play with antique Shopsmiths. Yep, Franken-Smith. Now, I know where the name came from. steve
@barrywerdell26145 жыл бұрын
Jackie Fisher was instrumental in vastly improving the Royal Navy. When he became Admiral the fleet was large but consisted of modern vessels as well as older ones with masts still on them. The captains of the ships thought their ships should only look good and shied away from practicing because it might ruin their paint job. He changed all that.
@Jetchisel
4 жыл бұрын
When Fisher was promoted to First Sea Lord in 1904 he compiled a list of over 400 obsolete warships to be scrapped, declaring "Too weak to fight and too slow to run away!
@sirderam1
4 жыл бұрын
@@Jetchisel Precisely the opposite of the qualities required for a "Cruiser" type ship - powerful enough to out fight anything it can't out run, and fast enough to out run anything it can't out fight. Did you know that in 1911 Admiral Fisher predicted the outbreak of war with Germany in 1914 to within two months of the actual date? The only reason that his prediction was out by two months was because he believed that Germany would declare war as soon as the building of the Kiel canal was completed, but, with typical German efficiency, the canal was completed two months earlier than scheduled.
@pauldoyne7435 жыл бұрын
I really like the way you use the past tense History Guy. So many historians use the present tense nowadays in an attempt to make the story sound more urgent. I hate that! It turns me off history. Please, please, please: NEVER CHANGE!
@bigblue6917
5 жыл бұрын
I understand why they do it but it is a bit hard to think of it in the present tense when your talking about a battle fought 2000 years ago. It's not like they are checking out the battle field on Google Earth.
@mass4552
5 жыл бұрын
I'm afraid he will change. He's getting better all the time.
@simongleaden2864
4 жыл бұрын
Good point, Paul. The "historical present tense" is annoying, but seems to be de rigueur for TV historians and interviewees on documentary programmes.
@chloehennessey68135 жыл бұрын
Hi sir History Man! My name is Chloe and I’m 15. I’m a gymnast and I compete quite a bit. Would you be able to do a segment on the history of girls and gymnastics? I’ve found quite a bit about males and gymnastics but not so much about girls. I’m just curious really, sir. My dad says when he and my aunt were growing up gymnastics wasn’t popular for girls my age when I started. I was 8 when I first started. If it’s possible I would love to hear it- and with your permission- show it to my gymnastics team. There is 28 of us. From 6 years old to 24. Thank you, Chloe. P.S Congrats on the 500,000 subscribers!
@dtaylor10chuckufarle
4 жыл бұрын
I endorse Chloe, History Dude!
@MarianneKat
4 жыл бұрын
What a sweet entreaty! How can you resist?
@51WCDodge
4 жыл бұрын
Look at the Osterberg Collection, kept at the North West Kent College Dartford England.
@Jakal-pw8yq
3 жыл бұрын
Hello Chloe! I'm just curious if the history guy ever responded to your request? Also, I just have to say that was one of the most courteous, polite posts that I've ever seen! I'm guessing that your parents are doing a very good job with you and the in turn you are also doing a very good job! Keep up the good work and best of luck in your gymnastics career! Jim from Seattle
@dukebacher12165 жыл бұрын
THG- Congrats on the 500K! You have an amazing gift to make history interesting- no matter what the subject! If I were an educator, I'd make sure that each class would begin with watching one of your videos. YOU, Sir, deserve to be remembered.
@inkslinger61565 жыл бұрын
Your channel is my favorite on KZread. I love history. I went to college to become a history teacher. Then I become a trucker for 22 years. I’ve seen a lot of historic places over the years. Thank you for these little forgotten moments.
@jeffeck17015 жыл бұрын
I sincerely appreciate the work you and the Mrs do. I am entertained, but more importantly, I get to learn about our (human) history in a way that makes me want to know more. I wish you nothing but the best! From Kansas with gratitude, Jeff.
@hansoconner68985 жыл бұрын
Great video! I love history and continue to love your channel! Thank you 😊
@marklittle88055 жыл бұрын
Until this story, I didn't know there was an original Tribal Class in the first war I only was aware of the Second World War Tribals, and their role in Canada's navy in particular. The HMCS Haida is anchored as a museum ship in Hamilton Ontario and was the last Tribal from that class in service. They had the same role, had the same enemy, but were far sturdier. Fascinating story of the Zubian and the Dover Patrol...I had no idea. That just may be why you passed 500 k in subscribers! Congratulations!!!
@jasonmaccoul94244 жыл бұрын
Your history lessons are the best! I was unaware of this “Franken-vessel” and her story. Maybe you can add a lesson of the story of HMS Natal, also from The Great War, and marry it with the outstanding story of HMS Zubian. I never want to forget those that fought and the stories they had. Thank you.
@pfournier6235 жыл бұрын
Sir, I'm not sure about the proper protocol to make a suggestion but on a visit to the Bluff maritime museum near the southern end of New Zealand I saw a story maybe worth reviewing. Victor Spencer was one of five New Zealand boys shot by firing squad for desertion in the Great War. It seems likely that he was suffering from what we now call PTSD. It seems like it would do a service to these boys shot to death in the prime of life by their own comrades, to remember them by means of a History Guy session. Thank you again for your fine work.
@tjendenys50285 жыл бұрын
Ahh some history involving my backyard, Bruges and Ostend. Love that Zubian bodge, true British improvisation
@Peoples_Republic_of_Devonshire
5 жыл бұрын
If it's stupid but it works it's not stupid
@aleksanderdomanski2225 жыл бұрын
In Polish preWWII navy they were called "kontrtorpedowiec" which in straight translation means countertorpedo ship/boat.
@paulcharlwood702
5 жыл бұрын
In French they were contra-torpilleur, same meaning.
@aleksanderdomanski222
5 жыл бұрын
@@paulcharlwood702 probably poles took and translsted name from French. First Polish DD 's were built on France.
@michaelingram12365 жыл бұрын
Enjoy your channel! Recently learned of Ulithi atoll in WW2. I had never heard of it. Seems like a good subject for your channel. At one point during the war , it was the largest navy base in the world with over 700 ships at anchor.
@oldgundog4705
5 жыл бұрын
During the Vietnam war, I was part of ship's company on USS Ticonderoga CVA 14. In the 25th anniversary cruise book there are pictures of the Tico anchored on Murderer's Row at Ulithi. It was a secret place at the time.
@colbeausabre8842
2 жыл бұрын
Ulithi was the only spot of dry land my dad walked on (3 different days liberty at the Rec Center on Mog Mog. The highllight was that you got tickets for 3 cans of beer. During one stop a refrigerated freighter came in from the US with entire production of beer across the US for one day, about 10,000 tons. Now naval regulations prohibit alcohol aboard US Naval Vessels, so the San Jacinto's skipper loaded as many men as possible in the ship's boats, sent them to the freighter to get a share of the liquid goodness and to then cruise around the harbor until the beer was done and repeated the procedure until every man had his share. Not much of a surprise that Captain Harold Martin retired wearing four stars as a full admiral) in 18 months in the Pacific. " Location Mogmog Island located on the northern edge of Ulithi Atoll. Borders Ulithi Lagoon (Urushi Lagoon) to the south. Prewar and during the Pacific War part of the western Caroline Islands. Allied code name "Litharge". During the American occupation during late 1944 until the end of the Pacific War known as "Recreation Island". Today located in in Yap State in the Federated States of Micronesia. "On October 15, 1944 construction of recreational facilities began including sports fields, a band stand, beverage storage and chapel. A large 1,200-seat theatre with a 25' x 40' stage with a Quonset hut roof was built in 20 days and opened December 20, 1944. By January 1945, Mogmog Island recreation area was completed and able to accommodate 8,000 enlisted men and 1,000 officers daily.}"
@ebanfa5 жыл бұрын
Watching from East Africa. Great channel. Keep up the good work. Thank you.
@sincerelyyours75385 жыл бұрын
WW1 history and the advent of war technologies never before seen is fascinating, much more so than pirate stories IMHO. I wrote about some of these battles in a 500 page book based on my grandfather's diaries of that war. The aerial arm of the Dover Patrol as carried out by the Royal Naval Air Service in flying machines made of sticks and cloth is as fascinating as the naval battles. Please consider making more HG episodes based on those battles. Also, congrats on achieving 500K subs! Very well deserved!
@shammons5565 жыл бұрын
Love this channel. The naval and Cold War videos are my favorites. Keep up the good work.
@sethdrewery7141
5 жыл бұрын
you need to watch two of his videos my favorite is the king of pranks and he made another one about a sub that sunk a train...
@shammons556
5 жыл бұрын
Yes! I watched the one on the USS Barb, great video. I also watched the one on the Sultan of Pranks based on your recommendation. Good stuff.
@robynn1444 жыл бұрын
HMS "Zubian". A very clever name for a very unusual warship. A name that did honor to both ships she was made from. A "Frankenship". Genius. In wartime, the near-impossible is sometimes just MADE possible - because it has to! Thanks for another great episode, Mr. History Guy! :)
@derekheuring29844 жыл бұрын
Prior to discovering your KZread channel. my knowledge of naval history of WWI was limited to actions by the Grand Fleet at Dogger Bank and Jutland. Thank you for adding a more human face and individual actions to history.
@amywright22435 жыл бұрын
We visited another Frankenvessel, the Wisconsin/Kentucky "Wisky!" In Norfolk. Congratulations on another milestone!
@constipatedinsincity44245 жыл бұрын
Old friends of mine grand father was on the Zubian . It was a joke the whole family was in on. I asked the grandmother ask him. Then he showed me pictures the flags from the Nubian where he was assigned. Then from the Zubian. That was 1977 it took a minute correlate the connection.
@TheExsoldier15 жыл бұрын
Great video, I love these snippets of history that would be unheard of otherwise...
@inkman2344 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the enthusiasm in your narration. You are a an excellent orator with an engaging style of storytelling. Well done.
@baburejaz5 жыл бұрын
Excellent educational videos. Thanks for all of your efforts and research. Sincerely Babur
@Peoples_Republic_of_Devonshire5 жыл бұрын
The Royal Navy did the same with the HMS Porcupine, originally the HMS Pork and HMS Pine I believe, who both suffered appalling damage and were made into one ship. I had it the wrong way around. The HMS Porcupine was torpedoed, crippling the ship. When the British dock workers looked at it they decided it would be better to divide it into 2 ships and use them as floating accomodation blocks. The workers called them Pork and Pine while seperating them and when command went to name them they found it so funny they christened them HMS Pork and HMS Pine
@oveidasinclair9825 жыл бұрын
Another great and interesting piece of history, many thanks History Guy.
@mikemiller16465 жыл бұрын
"Triple screwed" sounds like me on tax day.
@marvinatkins2355
5 жыл бұрын
Trust me it's a term all U.S. Navy sailors understand well.
@dennisammann9104
4 жыл бұрын
10-4 Mike & Marvin. Navy vet of 20 years & tax payer since 1969... 🤣
@ArchFundy5 жыл бұрын
Awesome. 500K. It gives me hope that this, the best chan on YT, will be around for years to come. Congrats Mr. and Mrs History Guy.
@travistaylor32625 жыл бұрын
I do love this channel. Just discovered a few weeks ago by way of Roku's access to KZread. Here's a suggestion for a program: The Exodusters - black settlers that founded the town of Nicodemus, KS during Reconstruction and other black settlers of the west ought to have their histories remembered.
@TheLittleMako5 жыл бұрын
Oh man, I've been low-key hoping THG would cover this one for ages!
@robertmorris23883 жыл бұрын
Once more into the breach. I have not heard of a “frankin” ship. An interesting engineering solution to a military-economic need. You are always amazing History Guy Team.
@spammerwhammer55265 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. Proof that you (well, I at least) never stop learning.
@kevinodriscoll195 жыл бұрын
This is now my “ go to” history channel. Wonderful variety and very interesting tales of, often, forgotten history.
@orangelion035 жыл бұрын
Congratulations for reaching 500K subscibers! That is what you get when you provide consistently excellent content. I recently completed Massie's Dreadnought and Castles of Steel so your presentation was perfectly timed! Massie covered the Dover Patrol and their efforts, but this filled in a lot more detail. Thank you!
@Mondo7625 жыл бұрын
In 1971 two Standard Oil (Chevron) tankers collided under the Golden Gate Bridge. Later the decision was made to remove the damaged bow and fore deck of the SS Oregon Standard and replace it with the bow and fore deck of the SS Arizona Standard, thus creating an hermaphrodite ship. How often do sister ships collide and become one?
@bigblue6917
5 жыл бұрын
Interesting story but as but ships are shes I doubt if the resulting ship can be regarded as hermaphrodite as this would mean one had to be male and one female.
@Mondo762
5 жыл бұрын
It's just a generic term we used in the Merchant Marine to describe something that is a combination of two existing designs. I know it doesn't fit the correct definition of hermaphrodite. Maybe I shouldn't have used it around non sea-going people. But my fellow marine engineers know exactly what it means in this context.
@jakedee4117
5 жыл бұрын
SS Orezonia ? No the SS Arigon is much better.
@Mondo762
5 жыл бұрын
Ha ha, that's good.
@velonicatgmaildotcom5 жыл бұрын
Armed Yacht, lol! Just finished J111 World Championships in Chicago. We are always armed aboard! (Wrenches and winch handles) Most just Sail with Love! Xoxo History, Sir!
@OkieSketcher19495 жыл бұрын
In all of my studies of warfare this was never taught. Jutland was about all we learned in regard to Naval warfare in WWI. Even though I was in the Army I learned a strong country needed a strong Navy (Alfred Mahon if memory serves from over 45 years ago). This should have been taught along with the plans and maneuvers of the Great War on land. It is definitely part of a story that needed to be told then, now, and way into the future. Another aspect of your story that is coming back to haunt the Royal Navy is the recent problems with Iran in the Persian Gulf. The Royal Navy is several ships short of where it needs to be.
@bradbechlyb92735 жыл бұрын
I subscribed around 18,000, Totally awesome to see you hit half million.
@jeffcox45383 жыл бұрын
I have worked in the U.S. Navy's submarine shipyards. I have kit bashed starship models. I had no consensus that as humans we kit bashed two vessels into one and yet got her revenge. Awesome story I will tell to my boys. Thanks.
@jyvben15205 жыл бұрын
3:17 length 255 Feet = 77.7 mr, beam 26.6 foot = 8.1 mr, hms zulu + nubian = Zubian Belgium Ostend still has a part of hms Vindictive ( built in 1897), from the attack to block Ostend harbour entrance.
@chrisosh95745 жыл бұрын
This story says a lot about the quality of construction that the two halves were good enough to meld into one ship.
@elvisjohnson12085 жыл бұрын
I love history and you do such à wonderful job. Thx so much.
@copferthat5 жыл бұрын
Jackie Fisher was a visionary naval man, who along with Churchill made sure the Navy was ready for war. At the review of the fleet in 1897 he shocked the establishment by saying they should all be scrapped and he was right. His rebuilding programme led to the revolution that was the Dreadnought and a complete overall of the whole naval structure.
@edschermer5 жыл бұрын
A fascinating look on war-time resourcefulness! Thank you for sharing! Congrats on the subscriber milestone! I remember you passing 50,000 and 100,000! Let’s get you that million!
@markvines73085 жыл бұрын
There is no more deserving channel than this one.
@jp-um2fr5 жыл бұрын
Many forget that Britain is much smaller than many of Americas states. I often wonder how this tiny island has such history. It's a thousand years almost since any enemy conqured it. So many times little ships have gone down fighting impossible odds. Thank you for the video.
@krashd
5 жыл бұрын
2066 will be some party, assuming we haven't become the 51st US state or a Chinese airbase.
@Zakalwe-015 жыл бұрын
Great names. Doesn't get more imperial that that! Congratulations on the subscriber milestone too. So well deserved! Here's to the million...
@agolftwittler12235 жыл бұрын
Learned something again today. Thank you Sir.
@kenadair46075 жыл бұрын
Great episode. I was wondering how how the “Zubian” came into being. I served on a Gearing (Fram II) DD-763 and USS Kidd DD-993. 11 months of my 6 years was in dry dock during engine/boiler overhauls. Superheated steam boiler ships are extremely complex, mechanically, especially in boiler and engine compartments. I’ve always been fascinated how these complexities can be worked out in advance to facilitate the initial manufacturing. This story takes those complexities to a new level.
@ogscarl3t3755 жыл бұрын
Congrats on 500k subscribers THG :D
@RustyOldF2505 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the USN destroyer that was struck by an oil tanker, the bow sunk but the stern was towed back to NY and a new bow fabricated. Fascinating stuff!
@keith8005 жыл бұрын
Love your video, it is always great to see off the beaten track obscure bits of history that go unrecognised
@cjmoore72405 жыл бұрын
As always Great history! KEEP ON ROCKING!
@iannarita98165 жыл бұрын
This piece for me to thinking about the WWII Tribal class destroyers. One of the minor actions they were involved in was the capture of two German weather ships, the Munchen and the Lauenberg(?). While not well recognized at the time not for years after, their capture gave the British codebreakers the books to work on breaking the enigma codes and encryption. David Kahn(?) writes of it in Breaking the Enigma. Otherwise it's barely mentioned
@colbeausabre88422 жыл бұрын
The first Tribal class were held to be underarmed for theor size. Their namesakes in the second class were anything but with 3X2 4.7 inch guns, 2X4 inch AA guns, 1X4 2 Pounder (40mm) AA Machine Cannon, eventually 6-8 20mm Machine Cannon and 1X4 21 inch torpedo mount.
@Zizumia5 жыл бұрын
I served aboard a Destroyer for a few years but never knew their history. Thank you for providing that
@TomPauls0075 жыл бұрын
Yes! 1/2M subscribers. Awesome. Zubian... very creative. You should name your next history puss that. Keep up the good work, you two. You sure deserve your YT pay!
@RaoulThomas007
5 жыл бұрын
Tom Pauls Henceforth, we could call video editing - Zubiating!
@nathanosborne77535 жыл бұрын
Yours has become one of my favorite channels here on KZread. I’d love to see a segment about the frontiersman Simon Kenton.
@rolandfelice61985 жыл бұрын
Your lust for rare and previously ignored military actions is intoxicating. You're one contributor whose videos cannot be missed.
@davidstrorm57974 жыл бұрын
You may also consider the Louis Riel Rebellion - another fascinating bit of Canadiana. He actually started this rebellion, but then stopped his forces from actually fighting. Considering how his backpedaling actually scuppered his efforts and resulted in his execution, I think the guy was a little nuts, but he is considered a hero by the Metis peoples of Manitoba as he directed them toward nationhood, where afterwards they were forced into ghettos and onto reserves - it is an odd but noteworthy event in my country's history.
@TSM-TSM5 жыл бұрын
Great edition and fab watch to mark your 500k of subs... here's looking to the next 500K
@rocksandoil22415 жыл бұрын
Love your channel. Would love something on the Cherokee conflict within the tribe, Major Ridge and John Ridge's assassination, or other tribal history like the conflict between Osage and Cherokee tribes...
@bender75655 жыл бұрын
Another outstanding job. I was noticing that I have never seen a hater comment on my MANY visits. I am sure you know that is very rare on utube. Maybe I am just proud of myself but I think you attract a more 'informed' viewer, and you found 500k on utube! Good job on you, you are a bad man Mr. History.
@markkover80405 жыл бұрын
Wow! Another interesting piece of history. Thank you!
@TheElnots5 жыл бұрын
Congrats on 500k!! It's been quite the ride since 8000!
@ccg86585 жыл бұрын
I love the description as drifters being "lightly armed" meaning each carried a single rifle!
@terryoneill95255 жыл бұрын
you have done it again enjoyed once again history guy thank you so much
@rebelliousnature47955 жыл бұрын
:facepalm: The moment you realize you have been watching every recent video from a content creator yet haven’t subscribed yet, how did I make this mistake.... Sorry History guy, liked and subscribed!! :salute:
@johnpoindexter65945 жыл бұрын
CONGRATULATIONS!!! MORE THAN 500K FOLLOWING YOUR CHANNEL!
@johnpoindexter6594
5 жыл бұрын
I noticed it between watching his two latest videos!
@GoViking9335 жыл бұрын
Jolly good! Enjoyed this, even though I’m more of an aviation fan than nautical. You’re such a great narrator and your style reminds me of the late great Paul Harvey
@JosiahGould5 жыл бұрын
Nothing I love more than sitting here learning a new fact, while his voice soothes the baby to sleep.
@tomaszyeager66545 жыл бұрын
Great piece, and congratulations on 500K subscribers! One comment: At 6’45”, when talking about the buildup of imperial German naval forces, the photo selected shows ships which apparently are displaying U.S. Naval Jacks from their jackstaffs. Am I incorrect? In 1916 U.S. forces would not, of course, yet have been involved in the war.
@RobertWoodman5 жыл бұрын
I always learn something from you, History Guy. Thank you. This was a most interesting story.
@1TakoyakiStore5 жыл бұрын
"Desperation of the times" could be its own History Guy segment. In regards to the video itself that's quite a story. Like a destroyer parallel to the libery ships of WWII. I also had no idea that's how the name "destroyer" came about. 10/10
@TheFalconJetDriver5 жыл бұрын
I learn something new every time I watch one of your videos, and I am no kid.
@farinatty5 жыл бұрын
Hi. What about a series on the Airship Patrols hunting submarines in WW1. Especially in the Irish Sea.
@QqJcrsStbt
4 жыл бұрын
I think there was a tiny naval airfield in Cornwall, on the Lizard. VTOL! Sling a wingless Sopwith under a ballon. A flying Chimera.
@IainHC15 жыл бұрын
I'm new to your Chanel. Discovered it week before last, I really have to say that I really enjoy your video's. Thank you :-)
@samBOHDking15 жыл бұрын
Man these videos are awesome. I have been looking for a channel like this since I was a kid.
@EverydayProjects4 жыл бұрын
Another great video! Just wondering, have you done anything on HMCS Sackville? She is a Flower Class Corvette and the last in the world. She is moored in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada as a permanent memorial to the Battle of the Atlantic. I have personally been involved in her restoration as I spent 18 months leading a work crew restoring the engine room while serving in the Canadian Navy back in 1984-85. Corvettes, as you know, played a pivotal role in escorting convoys during the Battle of the Atlantic. Keep up the good work!
@phillipjones33425 жыл бұрын
The Stern bone connected to The bow bone Fantastic story
@richardklug8225 жыл бұрын
I enjoy all of your videos, but coming from a seafaring family, I particularly appreciate those with a nautical flavor...bravo once again!
@oldgundog47055 жыл бұрын
"The essence of war is violence. Moderation in war is imbecility." - Jackie Fisher This quote was one of the first things I saw when entering the British War Museum in 2005.
@velonicatgmaildotcom
5 жыл бұрын
I would hope "Focused" would be added... Violence is reckless by nature... Focused Violence seems a better tool. Let's not go Mental with Violence!
@kevinlove4356
5 жыл бұрын
Obviously, this quotation was uttered before the invention of nuclear weapons. Now moderation is necessary to avoid the extinction of the human species.
@oldgundog4705
5 жыл бұрын
@@kevinlove4356 you got that right - before 1900 I think. Little things like thermonuclear bombs can change time honored beliefs.
@blackcountryme5 жыл бұрын
And in WWII, the tribal class were famous for being in a scrap with bravery and courage. A little crazy too!
@TheHistoryGuyChannel
5 жыл бұрын
blackcountryme and the second HMS Nubian had a distinguished career that did not include loosing her bow. Perhaps in another episode.
@boltaction85415 жыл бұрын
Can you do some USMC specific history videos? Thanks and keep up the great work.
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The concept of a 'Frankenvessel' is alive and well today. In 2005, the U.S.S. San Francisco, SSN-711, at a depth of 535 feet, doing a flank bell of over 30 knots, hit an uncharted seamount on their way to Guam. On sailor was fatally injured. However, despite all the damage, the submarine was able to surface and proceed to Guam under her own power. A few months later, I watched from the bridge of the U.S.S. John C. Stennis, CVN-74, as San Francisco sailed into Sinclair Inlet in Bremerton, Washington at the Puget Sound Naval Shipyard. Over a period of time, a little over two years, her bow was completely removed and replaced with the bow of the U.S.S. Honolulu, SSN-718, who was scheduled to be de-commissioned. U.S.S. San Francisco is planned to be converted to a training ship at the Naval Nuclear Training Unit in South Carolina. Three submarines have already proceeded her in that role.
The sheer enthusiasm you have for history shows in all of your episodes. It is contagious, appreciated and always looked forward to. The range of subjects is truly amazing. Keep up the great work!
Who ever came up with the name Zubian was a genius. Rare humour indeed
@googlesucks7840
5 жыл бұрын
It was either that or Nulu, I guess.
@RaoulThomas007
5 жыл бұрын
If fate were different, it may have become the Nubilu !
@collinsmakaumukungi991
5 жыл бұрын
The US submarine USS Squalus sank during tests, was salvaged and renamed USS Sailfish.The crew gave it a generic name Squalfish.
@jfloresmac
5 жыл бұрын
loxxxton: Thank you.
@backseatgamer7367
5 жыл бұрын
The drunk in me says hell ya. The engineer says hell no.
Hey, History Guy, the technique of joining two different cars is very common it the auto paint and body business. They call the part either a front clip or a rear clip. This technique has been used in airframe repair as well. My father was a shop foreman of a unit that was overhauling and repairing Army Huey helicopters that had sustained battle damage during the fighting in Vietnam. On one occasion, my Dad was faced with the decision of whether to strike two helicopters or repair one or both. As fate would have it, one was damaged in the rear portion and the other in the front. Since he was doing contract work for the USArmy, he proposed to them that they allow him to join the two undamaged parts and make one helicopter. They were skeptical but agreed to let him try it. After building a huge jig to hold the two helicopter halves, his shop successfully "made one from two". As a side note, when it came time for an Army test pilot to make the acceptance flight, my Dad said he noted some skepticism in the test pilot's attitude. When he told the pilot "Come on ... I'll fly with you", the skepticism disappeared and they had a flight with no major dings to resolve prior to acceptance. The Army, having saved a considerable amount of money, paid my old man a nice bonus for his initiative. This is a story worth remembering ... at least it was for me !!!
@RCAvhstape
5 жыл бұрын
Not quite the same, but after the Challenger accident, Rockwell assembled a replacement space shuttle out of structural spares which became Space Shuttle Endeavour. At first NASA considered refitting Enterprise for spaceflight, but that would've required disassembling the airframe and rebuilding major parts to bring her up to spec, so the Endeavor option was deemed cheaper.
@gromm93
5 жыл бұрын
The difference of course, was that for each of your examples, there were two exact copies of a mass-produced item with standard, interchangeable parts that *could* fit together properly. The Tribal class of destroyers, as the video notes, was not so standardised. Nor did it fit together properly to form the Zubian. :)
@dancolley4208
5 жыл бұрын
@@gromm93 I was intending to convey the concept only, not the similarity of the vehicles. I have seen Fords clipped to Chevys in hot rod shops. Hot rods or jalopies were built from parts of pick up trucks welded to Cadillacs. If there was a need, the same could be done with airplanes or ships. There are a lot of examples of "clips" being attached to destroyers that had their bows blown off by torpedoes but the rest of the ship being towed to a shipyard and having the bowof another tin can attached, one that had sustained damage to its stern section. Even if they were not in the same class, they were usually close enough to work. My only point was that the idea of fusing two different ships is not rare. I did NOT intend to stir up a hornet's nest. For every concept there of plenty of opposing concepts. Mine was only a story about my Dad.
@krashd
5 жыл бұрын
@@dancolley4208 In the UK a frankencar is known as a "cut n' shut" and are not road legal, if done incorrectly they can come apart at a very inopportune time.
@dancolley4208
5 жыл бұрын
@@krashd And if done properly, they are fine. The only way you can tell is by looking at the title to see if it's a "builder".
Glad to see your "Geiger counter" hit the half a million mark. Congratulations, and here's to a half million more! Three cheers for the History Guy!
@paulcharlwood702
5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree!
@kenadair4607
5 жыл бұрын
seatedliberty , I suspect the subscription rate will start accelerating. When I first subscribed, I kept going back and watching old posts. They were all as good as the new ones. I never miss an episode. Some are more interesting to me than others. Worst case scenario is that the episode is merely fascinating. He’s got this distillation and articulation of interesting vignettes down pat.
@jnstonbely5215
Жыл бұрын
@@kenadair4607 I certainly agree with everyone’s endorsements of the superb work and presentations of The History Guy .🏅 My highest compliment to the THG is that He is my first “Go To” email of the day, and most days; .. helps to “make my day “ , as today’s incredible story about the HMS Zubian demonstrated . Bravo also to Great Britains’ Naval Engineers of WW I, who created a “ Franken” ship,but Hell: it did the job splendidly! 🎉
Great story! I have told people about HMS Zubian myself and often get looked at askance as if it is some tall sea tale! Fortunately the second 'Tribal Class' commissioned in the Thirties were more rugged ships and they saw much action in the Second Great Unpleasantness. Might make for an interesting follow-up? One small correction; technically the head of the Royal Navy is the First Lord of the Admiralty, a politician appointed by government (Winston Churchill held the post at the start of both World Wars prior to resigning in the First after his role in the Gallipoli campaign and of course becoming Prime Minister in the Second after the fall of France). The First Sea Lord is a very senior commissioned naval officer, usually but not necessarily the most senior on the naval list, who serves as the head of the Naval Staff directly under the First Lord a bit like the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs serves under your President.
@anthonyhargis6855
5 жыл бұрын
The "First Lord of the Admiralty" is actually comparable to America's "Secretary of the Navy." All naval admirals answer to the Secretary of the Navy. In the U.S. ALL military branches -- and their Secretaries: Army, Navy, Air Force -- answer to the Secretary of Defense, who answers to the President. The "First Sea Lord" is comparable to America's "Chief of Staff of the Navy." The "Chairman of the Joint Chiefs" is comparable to the "Chief of the Imperial General Staff." The Chairman is the senior military adviser to the President, but is still subordinate to the Secretary of Defense.
@marklittle8805
5 жыл бұрын
The Tribals of the Second World War were the only Tribals I knew ....until now
@minuteman4199
5 жыл бұрын
There is one Tribal class destroyer still in existence. HMCS Haida is a museum ship in Hamilton Ontario, on the west end of Lake Ontario in Canada.
@ccg8658
5 жыл бұрын
"Second Great Unpleasantness" 😂😂😂😂😂😅😂
@paulcharlwood702
5 жыл бұрын
@@ccg8658A fairly commonly used British Forces expression. Squaddie humour!
Thank you for remembering the history most often ignored.
Interesting story, I was talking with my father the other day who is now retired but worked on ships plying the Dover Straits for many years sailing between Dover and Calais and also Zeebrugge. He said to me that he sometimes thought about the history of the area in which he worked, made all the more visceral when his ship accidently hit a submerged wreck tearing off one of its propellers. The shear amount of wrecks in the area demonstrates that the Dover Straits were at the forefront of centuries of warfare between Britain and the continental powers, as well as the changeable and treacherous weather that also ended the careers of many ships and the lives of those aboard. At low tide some of the sandbanks with skeletal remains of wrecks even peak above the water where they sank and the area features light houses, light ships and marker buoys that warn sailors to keep away. However despite the dangers the locals of the area often sail out on spring tides to play cricket on the sandbanks that stay above the surface long enough for a match. I can imagine few pass times more English than this!
500k! Well deserved for such an amazing channel!! Congratulations to you and your wife. I'm sincerely thankful for your content -- intriguing topics, excellent writing, and captivating delivery. Bravo!
Although this story doesn't involve pirates, it's still awesome. Love the British solution of putting two halves of different boats together.
@bigblue6917
5 жыл бұрын
There being no pirates in this story is true. But we all know that those who served on destroyers are part pirate at heart.
@scottbarber6694
5 жыл бұрын
@@bigblue6917 USS Forrest Sherman DD-931, 1962-3.
@tedthesailor172
4 жыл бұрын
They got the idea off an Essex car dealer...
@patagualianmostly7437
2 жыл бұрын
SHIPS if you please.... SHIPS. Boats are something altogether different. Cal a Submarine a boat... that is quite acceptable..... But never, ever, a SHIP.
For any who unaware; these were different than the famous Tribal class destroyers of WW2. The 1936 Tribal class were in contrast powerful anti-surface destroys meant to kill other destroyers with gunfire
@marklittle8805
5 жыл бұрын
I have been on the deck of the last one, the HMCS Haida, and you have no doubt they were the best of their type in the world when you see her. A sharp looking ship built for speed and packing a punch
@DamianMaisano
5 жыл бұрын
Mark Little Well, best of their type is a very debatable thing; something like a Somer is certainly in the running too. When it comes to looks that’s a different story; she wins hands down really. I’m goi)g to have to visit the Haida one day, such a great piece of history
Drifters were so called because they fished with drift nets. There was a huge fleet of them fishing for herring round Britain in the 19th and early 20th centuries. Incidentally, a common design of sailing drifter was called the Zulu.
"Frankenvessel" is my new favorite term.
@RaoulThomas007
5 жыл бұрын
Artur M. I thought it was going to be called the [boat] *Draft Graft.*
That period of naval history is probably the the era that interests me most. I knew most of the more famous battles & stories about that time, but I didn't know this one. Thanks.
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This was a fascinating story! I had not heard of H.M.S. Zubian but I knew there was a Tribal class set of destroyers. Thanks for information of her rebuild and actions in W.W.I.
About 25 years ago, I was working at Douglas aircraft, building the MD-11. A friend told me about an airplane he and friends assembled, during WWII. A DC-2.5. Fuselage and 1 wing, from a DC-3, and another wing with engine from a DC-2. Franken-Gooney. I repair old laptops for fun and profit, almost always IBM/ Lenovo ThinkPads. I've seen numerous Franken-pads. Also, I play with antique Shopsmiths. Yep, Franken-Smith. Now, I know where the name came from. steve
Jackie Fisher was instrumental in vastly improving the Royal Navy. When he became Admiral the fleet was large but consisted of modern vessels as well as older ones with masts still on them. The captains of the ships thought their ships should only look good and shied away from practicing because it might ruin their paint job. He changed all that.
@Jetchisel
4 жыл бұрын
When Fisher was promoted to First Sea Lord in 1904 he compiled a list of over 400 obsolete warships to be scrapped, declaring "Too weak to fight and too slow to run away!
@sirderam1
4 жыл бұрын
@@Jetchisel Precisely the opposite of the qualities required for a "Cruiser" type ship - powerful enough to out fight anything it can't out run, and fast enough to out run anything it can't out fight. Did you know that in 1911 Admiral Fisher predicted the outbreak of war with Germany in 1914 to within two months of the actual date? The only reason that his prediction was out by two months was because he believed that Germany would declare war as soon as the building of the Kiel canal was completed, but, with typical German efficiency, the canal was completed two months earlier than scheduled.
I really like the way you use the past tense History Guy. So many historians use the present tense nowadays in an attempt to make the story sound more urgent. I hate that! It turns me off history. Please, please, please: NEVER CHANGE!
@bigblue6917
5 жыл бұрын
I understand why they do it but it is a bit hard to think of it in the present tense when your talking about a battle fought 2000 years ago. It's not like they are checking out the battle field on Google Earth.
@mass4552
5 жыл бұрын
I'm afraid he will change. He's getting better all the time.
@simongleaden2864
4 жыл бұрын
Good point, Paul. The "historical present tense" is annoying, but seems to be de rigueur for TV historians and interviewees on documentary programmes.
Hi sir History Man! My name is Chloe and I’m 15. I’m a gymnast and I compete quite a bit. Would you be able to do a segment on the history of girls and gymnastics? I’ve found quite a bit about males and gymnastics but not so much about girls. I’m just curious really, sir. My dad says when he and my aunt were growing up gymnastics wasn’t popular for girls my age when I started. I was 8 when I first started. If it’s possible I would love to hear it- and with your permission- show it to my gymnastics team. There is 28 of us. From 6 years old to 24. Thank you, Chloe. P.S Congrats on the 500,000 subscribers!
@dtaylor10chuckufarle
4 жыл бұрын
I endorse Chloe, History Dude!
@MarianneKat
4 жыл бұрын
What a sweet entreaty! How can you resist?
@51WCDodge
4 жыл бұрын
Look at the Osterberg Collection, kept at the North West Kent College Dartford England.
@Jakal-pw8yq
3 жыл бұрын
Hello Chloe! I'm just curious if the history guy ever responded to your request? Also, I just have to say that was one of the most courteous, polite posts that I've ever seen! I'm guessing that your parents are doing a very good job with you and the in turn you are also doing a very good job! Keep up the good work and best of luck in your gymnastics career! Jim from Seattle
THG- Congrats on the 500K! You have an amazing gift to make history interesting- no matter what the subject! If I were an educator, I'd make sure that each class would begin with watching one of your videos. YOU, Sir, deserve to be remembered.
Your channel is my favorite on KZread. I love history. I went to college to become a history teacher. Then I become a trucker for 22 years. I’ve seen a lot of historic places over the years. Thank you for these little forgotten moments.
I sincerely appreciate the work you and the Mrs do. I am entertained, but more importantly, I get to learn about our (human) history in a way that makes me want to know more. I wish you nothing but the best! From Kansas with gratitude, Jeff.
Great video! I love history and continue to love your channel! Thank you 😊
Until this story, I didn't know there was an original Tribal Class in the first war I only was aware of the Second World War Tribals, and their role in Canada's navy in particular. The HMCS Haida is anchored as a museum ship in Hamilton Ontario and was the last Tribal from that class in service. They had the same role, had the same enemy, but were far sturdier. Fascinating story of the Zubian and the Dover Patrol...I had no idea. That just may be why you passed 500 k in subscribers! Congratulations!!!
Your history lessons are the best! I was unaware of this “Franken-vessel” and her story. Maybe you can add a lesson of the story of HMS Natal, also from The Great War, and marry it with the outstanding story of HMS Zubian. I never want to forget those that fought and the stories they had. Thank you.
Sir, I'm not sure about the proper protocol to make a suggestion but on a visit to the Bluff maritime museum near the southern end of New Zealand I saw a story maybe worth reviewing. Victor Spencer was one of five New Zealand boys shot by firing squad for desertion in the Great War. It seems likely that he was suffering from what we now call PTSD. It seems like it would do a service to these boys shot to death in the prime of life by their own comrades, to remember them by means of a History Guy session. Thank you again for your fine work.
Ahh some history involving my backyard, Bruges and Ostend. Love that Zubian bodge, true British improvisation
@Peoples_Republic_of_Devonshire
5 жыл бұрын
If it's stupid but it works it's not stupid
In Polish preWWII navy they were called "kontrtorpedowiec" which in straight translation means countertorpedo ship/boat.
@paulcharlwood702
5 жыл бұрын
In French they were contra-torpilleur, same meaning.
@aleksanderdomanski222
5 жыл бұрын
@@paulcharlwood702 probably poles took and translsted name from French. First Polish DD 's were built on France.
Enjoy your channel! Recently learned of Ulithi atoll in WW2. I had never heard of it. Seems like a good subject for your channel. At one point during the war , it was the largest navy base in the world with over 700 ships at anchor.
@oldgundog4705
5 жыл бұрын
During the Vietnam war, I was part of ship's company on USS Ticonderoga CVA 14. In the 25th anniversary cruise book there are pictures of the Tico anchored on Murderer's Row at Ulithi. It was a secret place at the time.
@colbeausabre8842
2 жыл бұрын
Ulithi was the only spot of dry land my dad walked on (3 different days liberty at the Rec Center on Mog Mog. The highllight was that you got tickets for 3 cans of beer. During one stop a refrigerated freighter came in from the US with entire production of beer across the US for one day, about 10,000 tons. Now naval regulations prohibit alcohol aboard US Naval Vessels, so the San Jacinto's skipper loaded as many men as possible in the ship's boats, sent them to the freighter to get a share of the liquid goodness and to then cruise around the harbor until the beer was done and repeated the procedure until every man had his share. Not much of a surprise that Captain Harold Martin retired wearing four stars as a full admiral) in 18 months in the Pacific. " Location Mogmog Island located on the northern edge of Ulithi Atoll. Borders Ulithi Lagoon (Urushi Lagoon) to the south. Prewar and during the Pacific War part of the western Caroline Islands. Allied code name "Litharge". During the American occupation during late 1944 until the end of the Pacific War known as "Recreation Island". Today located in in Yap State in the Federated States of Micronesia. "On October 15, 1944 construction of recreational facilities began including sports fields, a band stand, beverage storage and chapel. A large 1,200-seat theatre with a 25' x 40' stage with a Quonset hut roof was built in 20 days and opened December 20, 1944. By January 1945, Mogmog Island recreation area was completed and able to accommodate 8,000 enlisted men and 1,000 officers daily.}"
Watching from East Africa. Great channel. Keep up the good work. Thank you.
WW1 history and the advent of war technologies never before seen is fascinating, much more so than pirate stories IMHO. I wrote about some of these battles in a 500 page book based on my grandfather's diaries of that war. The aerial arm of the Dover Patrol as carried out by the Royal Naval Air Service in flying machines made of sticks and cloth is as fascinating as the naval battles. Please consider making more HG episodes based on those battles. Also, congrats on achieving 500K subs! Very well deserved!
Love this channel. The naval and Cold War videos are my favorites. Keep up the good work.
@sethdrewery7141
5 жыл бұрын
you need to watch two of his videos my favorite is the king of pranks and he made another one about a sub that sunk a train...
@shammons556
5 жыл бұрын
Yes! I watched the one on the USS Barb, great video. I also watched the one on the Sultan of Pranks based on your recommendation. Good stuff.
HMS "Zubian". A very clever name for a very unusual warship. A name that did honor to both ships she was made from. A "Frankenship". Genius. In wartime, the near-impossible is sometimes just MADE possible - because it has to! Thanks for another great episode, Mr. History Guy! :)
Prior to discovering your KZread channel. my knowledge of naval history of WWI was limited to actions by the Grand Fleet at Dogger Bank and Jutland. Thank you for adding a more human face and individual actions to history.
We visited another Frankenvessel, the Wisconsin/Kentucky "Wisky!" In Norfolk. Congratulations on another milestone!
Old friends of mine grand father was on the Zubian . It was a joke the whole family was in on. I asked the grandmother ask him. Then he showed me pictures the flags from the Nubian where he was assigned. Then from the Zubian. That was 1977 it took a minute correlate the connection.
Great video, I love these snippets of history that would be unheard of otherwise...
I really appreciate the enthusiasm in your narration. You are a an excellent orator with an engaging style of storytelling. Well done.
Excellent educational videos. Thanks for all of your efforts and research. Sincerely Babur
The Royal Navy did the same with the HMS Porcupine, originally the HMS Pork and HMS Pine I believe, who both suffered appalling damage and were made into one ship. I had it the wrong way around. The HMS Porcupine was torpedoed, crippling the ship. When the British dock workers looked at it they decided it would be better to divide it into 2 ships and use them as floating accomodation blocks. The workers called them Pork and Pine while seperating them and when command went to name them they found it so funny they christened them HMS Pork and HMS Pine
Another great and interesting piece of history, many thanks History Guy.
"Triple screwed" sounds like me on tax day.
@marvinatkins2355
5 жыл бұрын
Trust me it's a term all U.S. Navy sailors understand well.
@dennisammann9104
4 жыл бұрын
10-4 Mike & Marvin. Navy vet of 20 years & tax payer since 1969... 🤣
Awesome. 500K. It gives me hope that this, the best chan on YT, will be around for years to come. Congrats Mr. and Mrs History Guy.
I do love this channel. Just discovered a few weeks ago by way of Roku's access to KZread. Here's a suggestion for a program: The Exodusters - black settlers that founded the town of Nicodemus, KS during Reconstruction and other black settlers of the west ought to have their histories remembered.
Oh man, I've been low-key hoping THG would cover this one for ages!
Once more into the breach. I have not heard of a “frankin” ship. An interesting engineering solution to a military-economic need. You are always amazing History Guy Team.
Fascinating. Proof that you (well, I at least) never stop learning.
This is now my “ go to” history channel. Wonderful variety and very interesting tales of, often, forgotten history.
Congratulations for reaching 500K subscibers! That is what you get when you provide consistently excellent content. I recently completed Massie's Dreadnought and Castles of Steel so your presentation was perfectly timed! Massie covered the Dover Patrol and their efforts, but this filled in a lot more detail. Thank you!
In 1971 two Standard Oil (Chevron) tankers collided under the Golden Gate Bridge. Later the decision was made to remove the damaged bow and fore deck of the SS Oregon Standard and replace it with the bow and fore deck of the SS Arizona Standard, thus creating an hermaphrodite ship. How often do sister ships collide and become one?
@bigblue6917
5 жыл бұрын
Interesting story but as but ships are shes I doubt if the resulting ship can be regarded as hermaphrodite as this would mean one had to be male and one female.
@Mondo762
5 жыл бұрын
It's just a generic term we used in the Merchant Marine to describe something that is a combination of two existing designs. I know it doesn't fit the correct definition of hermaphrodite. Maybe I shouldn't have used it around non sea-going people. But my fellow marine engineers know exactly what it means in this context.
@jakedee4117
5 жыл бұрын
SS Orezonia ? No the SS Arigon is much better.
@Mondo762
5 жыл бұрын
Ha ha, that's good.
Armed Yacht, lol! Just finished J111 World Championships in Chicago. We are always armed aboard! (Wrenches and winch handles) Most just Sail with Love! Xoxo History, Sir!
In all of my studies of warfare this was never taught. Jutland was about all we learned in regard to Naval warfare in WWI. Even though I was in the Army I learned a strong country needed a strong Navy (Alfred Mahon if memory serves from over 45 years ago). This should have been taught along with the plans and maneuvers of the Great War on land. It is definitely part of a story that needed to be told then, now, and way into the future. Another aspect of your story that is coming back to haunt the Royal Navy is the recent problems with Iran in the Persian Gulf. The Royal Navy is several ships short of where it needs to be.
I subscribed around 18,000, Totally awesome to see you hit half million.
I have worked in the U.S. Navy's submarine shipyards. I have kit bashed starship models. I had no consensus that as humans we kit bashed two vessels into one and yet got her revenge. Awesome story I will tell to my boys. Thanks.
3:17 length 255 Feet = 77.7 mr, beam 26.6 foot = 8.1 mr, hms zulu + nubian = Zubian Belgium Ostend still has a part of hms Vindictive ( built in 1897), from the attack to block Ostend harbour entrance.
This story says a lot about the quality of construction that the two halves were good enough to meld into one ship.
I love history and you do such à wonderful job. Thx so much.
Jackie Fisher was a visionary naval man, who along with Churchill made sure the Navy was ready for war. At the review of the fleet in 1897 he shocked the establishment by saying they should all be scrapped and he was right. His rebuilding programme led to the revolution that was the Dreadnought and a complete overall of the whole naval structure.
A fascinating look on war-time resourcefulness! Thank you for sharing! Congrats on the subscriber milestone! I remember you passing 50,000 and 100,000! Let’s get you that million!
There is no more deserving channel than this one.
Many forget that Britain is much smaller than many of Americas states. I often wonder how this tiny island has such history. It's a thousand years almost since any enemy conqured it. So many times little ships have gone down fighting impossible odds. Thank you for the video.
@krashd
5 жыл бұрын
2066 will be some party, assuming we haven't become the 51st US state or a Chinese airbase.
Great names. Doesn't get more imperial that that! Congratulations on the subscriber milestone too. So well deserved! Here's to the million...
Learned something again today. Thank you Sir.
Great episode. I was wondering how how the “Zubian” came into being. I served on a Gearing (Fram II) DD-763 and USS Kidd DD-993. 11 months of my 6 years was in dry dock during engine/boiler overhauls. Superheated steam boiler ships are extremely complex, mechanically, especially in boiler and engine compartments. I’ve always been fascinated how these complexities can be worked out in advance to facilitate the initial manufacturing. This story takes those complexities to a new level.
Congrats on 500k subscribers THG :D
Reminds me of the USN destroyer that was struck by an oil tanker, the bow sunk but the stern was towed back to NY and a new bow fabricated. Fascinating stuff!
Love your video, it is always great to see off the beaten track obscure bits of history that go unrecognised
As always Great history! KEEP ON ROCKING!
This piece for me to thinking about the WWII Tribal class destroyers. One of the minor actions they were involved in was the capture of two German weather ships, the Munchen and the Lauenberg(?). While not well recognized at the time not for years after, their capture gave the British codebreakers the books to work on breaking the enigma codes and encryption. David Kahn(?) writes of it in Breaking the Enigma. Otherwise it's barely mentioned
The first Tribal class were held to be underarmed for theor size. Their namesakes in the second class were anything but with 3X2 4.7 inch guns, 2X4 inch AA guns, 1X4 2 Pounder (40mm) AA Machine Cannon, eventually 6-8 20mm Machine Cannon and 1X4 21 inch torpedo mount.
I served aboard a Destroyer for a few years but never knew their history. Thank you for providing that
Yes! 1/2M subscribers. Awesome. Zubian... very creative. You should name your next history puss that. Keep up the good work, you two. You sure deserve your YT pay!
@RaoulThomas007
5 жыл бұрын
Tom Pauls Henceforth, we could call video editing - Zubiating!
Yours has become one of my favorite channels here on KZread. I’d love to see a segment about the frontiersman Simon Kenton.
Your lust for rare and previously ignored military actions is intoxicating. You're one contributor whose videos cannot be missed.
You may also consider the Louis Riel Rebellion - another fascinating bit of Canadiana. He actually started this rebellion, but then stopped his forces from actually fighting. Considering how his backpedaling actually scuppered his efforts and resulted in his execution, I think the guy was a little nuts, but he is considered a hero by the Metis peoples of Manitoba as he directed them toward nationhood, where afterwards they were forced into ghettos and onto reserves - it is an odd but noteworthy event in my country's history.
Great edition and fab watch to mark your 500k of subs... here's looking to the next 500K
Love your channel. Would love something on the Cherokee conflict within the tribe, Major Ridge and John Ridge's assassination, or other tribal history like the conflict between Osage and Cherokee tribes...
Another outstanding job. I was noticing that I have never seen a hater comment on my MANY visits. I am sure you know that is very rare on utube. Maybe I am just proud of myself but I think you attract a more 'informed' viewer, and you found 500k on utube! Good job on you, you are a bad man Mr. History.
Wow! Another interesting piece of history. Thank you!
Congrats on 500k!! It's been quite the ride since 8000!
I love the description as drifters being "lightly armed" meaning each carried a single rifle!
you have done it again enjoyed once again history guy thank you so much
:facepalm: The moment you realize you have been watching every recent video from a content creator yet haven’t subscribed yet, how did I make this mistake.... Sorry History guy, liked and subscribed!! :salute:
CONGRATULATIONS!!! MORE THAN 500K FOLLOWING YOUR CHANNEL!
@johnpoindexter6594
5 жыл бұрын
I noticed it between watching his two latest videos!
Jolly good! Enjoyed this, even though I’m more of an aviation fan than nautical. You’re such a great narrator and your style reminds me of the late great Paul Harvey
Nothing I love more than sitting here learning a new fact, while his voice soothes the baby to sleep.
Great piece, and congratulations on 500K subscribers! One comment: At 6’45”, when talking about the buildup of imperial German naval forces, the photo selected shows ships which apparently are displaying U.S. Naval Jacks from their jackstaffs. Am I incorrect? In 1916 U.S. forces would not, of course, yet have been involved in the war.
I always learn something from you, History Guy. Thank you. This was a most interesting story.
"Desperation of the times" could be its own History Guy segment. In regards to the video itself that's quite a story. Like a destroyer parallel to the libery ships of WWII. I also had no idea that's how the name "destroyer" came about. 10/10
I learn something new every time I watch one of your videos, and I am no kid.
Hi. What about a series on the Airship Patrols hunting submarines in WW1. Especially in the Irish Sea.
@QqJcrsStbt
4 жыл бұрын
I think there was a tiny naval airfield in Cornwall, on the Lizard. VTOL! Sling a wingless Sopwith under a ballon. A flying Chimera.
I'm new to your Chanel. Discovered it week before last, I really have to say that I really enjoy your video's. Thank you :-)
Man these videos are awesome. I have been looking for a channel like this since I was a kid.
Another great video! Just wondering, have you done anything on HMCS Sackville? She is a Flower Class Corvette and the last in the world. She is moored in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada as a permanent memorial to the Battle of the Atlantic. I have personally been involved in her restoration as I spent 18 months leading a work crew restoring the engine room while serving in the Canadian Navy back in 1984-85. Corvettes, as you know, played a pivotal role in escorting convoys during the Battle of the Atlantic. Keep up the good work!
The Stern bone connected to The bow bone Fantastic story
I enjoy all of your videos, but coming from a seafaring family, I particularly appreciate those with a nautical flavor...bravo once again!
"The essence of war is violence. Moderation in war is imbecility." - Jackie Fisher This quote was one of the first things I saw when entering the British War Museum in 2005.
@velonicatgmaildotcom
5 жыл бұрын
I would hope "Focused" would be added... Violence is reckless by nature... Focused Violence seems a better tool. Let's not go Mental with Violence!
@kevinlove4356
5 жыл бұрын
Obviously, this quotation was uttered before the invention of nuclear weapons. Now moderation is necessary to avoid the extinction of the human species.
@oldgundog4705
5 жыл бұрын
@@kevinlove4356 you got that right - before 1900 I think. Little things like thermonuclear bombs can change time honored beliefs.
And in WWII, the tribal class were famous for being in a scrap with bravery and courage. A little crazy too!
@TheHistoryGuyChannel
5 жыл бұрын
blackcountryme and the second HMS Nubian had a distinguished career that did not include loosing her bow. Perhaps in another episode.
Can you do some USMC specific history videos? Thanks and keep up the great work.