A wild Bismarck appears Hood: why do I hear boss music

@TheKingoftheKongs

4 жыл бұрын

FROM THE MIST A SHAPE A SHIP IS TAKING FORM!

@pascalsch14

4 жыл бұрын

@Bocaan The Humble yes that's the Boss music that's playing.

@admiralredaceone5913

4 жыл бұрын

Pride of our nation !

@vinak963

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheKingoftheKongs Why does my knee suddenly hurt?

@dutchthespitfire3204

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheKingoftheKongs AND THE SILENCE OF THE SEA IS ABOUT TO DRIFT INTO STORM

“Vulnerable to plunging fire… Maybe I should close the distance” That is *literally* why Admiral Holland ordered _Hood_ and _Prince of Wales_ to attack bow on with the _Bismarck_ and _Prinz Eugen_ at the Battle of the Denmark Strait and part of the reason instead of taking his ships into a battle line and using they're vastly heavier broadside firepower to their advantage. Instead only having a marginal advantage bow on that dropped fast because _Wales_ was being sent into battle before she had a proper shakedown.

@asheer9114

4 жыл бұрын

Hood and PoW meet Bismarck and Prinz Eugen with their bows facing her only because Royal Navy screew ups and too late deployment of both heavy ships which allowed Germans to cross the T first. However, in moment of the Hood explosion both British ships were in process of turning broadside toward German ships when Bismarck fatal shoot struck Hood. Looking now from historical perspective neither Hood noir PoW should be deployed against Bismarck and to be honest if Lutiens would be more agressive during very first minutes of the battle instead turning Bisco in to "practice target" (which later on bite him pretty hard) then this battle would end very possible with both British ships sunk...

@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24

4 жыл бұрын

@@asheer9114 POW wasn't that badly damaged by bismark the problem was bieng new and defects not properly ironed out. Bismark wasn't some special invincible supership a KGV class ship was a reasonable opponent. Even hood was not too unreasonable the fatal shot was 1 in a million basically a lucky shot if there ever was such a thing. Many people seem to think it was inevitable, lucky hits happen hood wasn't made from tissue paper

@Deilwynna

4 жыл бұрын

@@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 didnt help that despite the time they had been in battle, the men on hood hadnt closed the bulkhead doors to/from the magazines, when that lucky hit happened at a weakpoint near a barbette, it detonated the magazine which caused a chain reaction through out the whole ship because of the doors left open. as for the kgv, their new 14" gun turrets was untested, most of them malfunctioned on pow during the short battle against bismarck and prinz eugen

@asheer9114

4 жыл бұрын

@@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 Don't forget that Prince of Wales survived this battle mostly thanks to Lutiens ineptitude and far too strict following orders to avoid any confrontation with Royal Navy (which of course in the very moment they started to clash with Holland's squadron should be ignored) and because of that he allowed damaged PoW to disengage and live to fight another this time deadly for her battle at Kuantan around a year later. Yes, you are correct that Hood wasn't made from "tissue paper" but still since the introduction of the battlecruiser class one thing was clear because of the specification set for this class by the Royal Navy... " *they should UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES engage in direct combat against Battleship due to designed thin armor necessary to survive such encounter* " Has Hood instead of being "Royal Navy's Propaganda cruise ship" sailing literally around the world at late 30th undergo full refits like Renown and Repulse then perhaps she might have a chance against Bismarck (and I'm not talking about Japanese style refit for their Kongou class which turned them into pretty durable Battleships despite being 'born" as Battlecruisers (based on British Tiger class)) but in her state from May 1941... even large part of British Admiralty said that she should NEVER be deployed in first place... and the most tragic irony in this entire history is that Hood's refit was in fact scheduled... *at the time she returns from mission against Bismarck* ... which of course never happen...

@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24

4 жыл бұрын

@@asheer9114 it's Almost as if your saying the battle was a forgone conclusion, that the outcome was the ONLY possible outcome. This type of deterministic argument gets thrown around a lot. The fatal hit had to land within an area a coupe of square meters to detonate the ship the way it did. That's an extremely unlikely event. The hit was at the exact right place at the exact right time, a split second earlier or later and it wouldn't have happened. A few feet either side it wouldn't have happened. As the range closed hoods odds improved as her exposed weakness reduced. The Germans faced 2 ships that combined outgunned them, one exploded after an extremely improbable miracle hit and the other suffered complete mechanical breakdown. You can't deny that was a pretty lucky encounter on their part. The victory was more due to luck and circumstance than any tactical or technological superiority.

before watching: so he's building the HMS ammo rack? After watching: yep pretty much.

@Draythur

3 жыл бұрын

HMS Ammo rack is my new favourite thing

The HMS Hood was a whopping 47,000 tons, you ended up a bit light

@kurumi394

4 жыл бұрын

And 12,000 of that was used for growing tea leaves and brewing, that's also missing

Hood was such a beautiful ship

@TheHistoryGuy

4 жыл бұрын

She really was.

@jugganaut33

4 жыл бұрын

Benito Mussolini: Ironically I was graced with a conversation with a Cold War admiral Bryson and there was a plan put forward after Vanguard for a Modern battleship. Instead of main armament it would Feature battle cruiser characteristics with Missiles and torpedos. Designed to deter the Russian Behemoths such as the Kirov with Harpoons and the typhoon class with Nuclear Depth Bombs.That would have Been the next Flagship labelled Hood. But it was the 80’s, britain was fucked and the BAOR had all the funds and the Government was getting rid of ships, not building them. The cost and necessity for a Flagship or new Era of warship is non existent. Hence why the RN just wasted £10 billion on a carrier capability that can barely handle a third world nation.

@danielsummey4144

4 жыл бұрын

The Lombax The sad thing is, the carrier doesn’t even really help them in the Great Power competition. At least not carrying F-35’s. Maybe to pack it full of sub hunting helos. It’s such a shame, as an American I think the RN has been one of the single greatest forces for good the world has ever seen. Such quality. They deserve better.

4×Triple 16" BB and a 4×Double 6" CA so... you were basically going against a buffed Bismarck and a nerfed Prinz Eugen.

@fusune7465

4 жыл бұрын

H-class probably?

@kurumi394

4 жыл бұрын

@@fusune7465 Yes, I was thinking of an H-40, I couldn't think of anything that had 4×2 6"s lol

@railbaron1

4 жыл бұрын

This Tripitz is effectively World of Warships' Großer Kurfürst

The HMS Hood used Cordite like all British ships of that era. It in fact played into its demise.

Well, that's two defeats of the Hood (once by the Tirpitz of all things) and one draw. Could'Ve been worse, I guess. At least the Hood didn't get hooded :D

@TheHistoryGuy

4 жыл бұрын

I kept waiting for it to happen.

Thank you for not quitting out of that lost engagement, was definitely interesting to watch that play out to the end. Cheers!

hood was a battlecruiser only by name

@tommeakin1732

4 жыл бұрын

What do you mean by that? Like she was more like a fast battleship? Because when she was built she basically had battleship armour and cruiser speed

I was able to beat this one with heavy guns, high speed and staying over 30km away and pummeling the BB with plunging fire. Getting too close is almost always a death sentence, even with armored barbett and citadel upgrades an ammo detonation would happen before I could sink the BB.

whenever i hear the sound effects from those guns, I think of Ambrose's D-Day book. The soldiers on the LCIs between the coast of Normandy and the Allied fleet talk about the unreal noise of battleship cannons. How terrifying must that have been?

@TheHistoryGuy

4 жыл бұрын

Just did the audio version of that book while traveling a few months ago. Great stuff.

Seems to me your problem isn’t gun size, but is accuracy. I’d go with the 16s and equip the radar and such, sir. Always the 16s.

I used a max size BC with underwater torpedo tubes, and flew in there at 49 knots. Basically circled it while launching torps, and only barely survived to win the mission. I tried several different gun-duel type BCs, but you can't really trade with a BB like that, you don't have the weight to have the combination of firepower and protection that the BB can.

Been waiting for this video since alpha 4 announcement.

You forgot the tea maker room

At the sound of the explosion, it will be good o'clock

Next time try tube powder, +10.5% armor penetration with a reduced chance of a ammo definition in addition to a bonus to rate of fire. That should let you get decent penetration at range

RIP to the brave men who died on the Hood. I stay away from massive ships as a rule after Titanic, Lusitania then Hood.

It's funny how the if a Battle cruiser ammunition explodes people call it Hooded, and when a torpedo hits a German batlleship's rudder it's called Bismarcked.

Gorgeous looking british battle cruiser lines. Maybe, HMS Repulse, HMS Glorious and HMS Furious are ready to sail sometime. (Two single 18" gun in a BC-like hull...)

@ianwebster891

4 жыл бұрын

Only Furious was designed with the 18" guns. And converted to an aircraft carrier before she was finished. Glorious and Repulse had 15" guns.

Why was the first hood so weak at close range when the belt armour was roughly equal on that one?

Hood was not sunk by plunging fire - she was too close for that. At c. 16-18,000 yards Bismarck's fire would arrive at about 11-14 degrees. A simple belt penetration is the likely answer.

Need to be able to get the 4" open back secondaries placed on the main deck to make it more accurate, i hope they fix that.

Maybe going the german BC route with more armor focus would do better? or acting as a sniper with long range fire rather then getting in close?

@Cruellers4Life

4 жыл бұрын

I wonder how something with normal or light shells would work, stay at range and spam HE on the super-structure

It look great

Tactics, sir! First time out, you didn't stay between their BB and your transports, AND you let him cross your T. A hard left after crossing through the transports and you would have been in front of him, probably taking half of his barrels out of the equation by the time things got serious.

This bring up the old question Who would win? A floating tea making facility with guns or a floating sausage with guns?

@TheHistoryGuy

4 жыл бұрын

A question we have all pondered at one time or another.

Honestly I'd love to see some less conventional gun layouts such as maybe building SMS Kaiser or SMS Seydlitz

It took three years and multiple operations, but in 1944 30 RAF Lancaster bombers armed with Tallboy earthquake bombs finally sunk the Tirpitz. The ship took two bombs, suffered internal explosions and soon capsized.

@duckygaming3536

4 жыл бұрын

You forgot the 200 foot hole the turret left when it suffered an ammo detonation. The turret was ripped from the ship amd sent into the sea

@YAT-YAS_To_The_Extreme

4 жыл бұрын

@@duckygaming3536 i didnt forget. My great grand fathers brother was on her when she sank. Great grandfather fought In the US Navy and his brother fought with the Kreigsmarine.

@duckygaming3536

4 жыл бұрын

@@YAT-YAS_To_The_Extreme I had an ancestor on the Bismarck lol were twins! Jk

@YAT-YAS_To_The_Extreme

4 жыл бұрын

@@duckygaming3536 What a small world lol

@YAT-YAS_To_The_Extreme

4 жыл бұрын

@@duckygaming3536 my grandmothers father was on the arizona right before she went under. He was blown off the deck when the magizine went.thank fully he survived. He was alive long enough to see me when i was born. Passed away in jan 89.

Hood was a great ship, but she was 1920s technology, Vs modern BB, Bismarck had her weak spots, though, her subsystems were light, protected, located outside the citadel, HMS vanguard would have blown Bismarck out of the water,but her construction was halted, and she was finished late, shame really.hoods fight was against scharnhorst,hood winning easy, renown engaged scharnhorst, briefly, in North sea, German ship taking 1 hit, made smoke, disengaged.

Does the "History Guy " need a history lesson on what happened to the 2 Bismarck class ships?

Do you know when it would be possible to build the Dunkerque or the Richelieu ?

@TheHistoryGuy

4 жыл бұрын

Not yet. I'm guessing they'll add the quads at some point.

@TheKenji2221

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheHistoryGuy Let's hope ! They look really cool !

So how did that bb get 33% accuracy on you while you only have 9.3%

So...Why did you not build it in two pieces?

I'm not sure if this is even possible without a radar.

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Ironic... HMS Hood vs Tirpiz..... I think we already know where this is going

Tirpitz did not have 4x3 Turrets!

@TheHistoryGuy

4 жыл бұрын

It isn't the real Tirpitz, it was just given that name by the game randomly assigning it.

hmmm try IJN Amagi?

Where is Prince of Wales

I don't understand the attitudes that seem to exist around the Hood - Bismarck engagement. People seem to either act like it's some kind of humiliating result for the RN, or like the Bismarck got insanely lucky in finding one little weakness in the armour or something. Bismarck *did* get horrendously lucky with the shot that destroyed Hood (just down to how it hit directly into ammunition), but it's not like Hood should have been able to stand toe to toe with Bismarck. We're talking about ships that were built like twenty years apart. I wouldn't expect a Tiger 2 (even significantly modernised) to be able to stand up to a Chieftain and that's the time gap we're talking about. Hood was armoured like a battleship of her era, and Bismarck had modern 15 inch guns - one should expect Bismarck to be able to completely negate Hood's armour. I think it's quite possible that if Bismarck hadn't directly hit the area that she did hit the battle could have gone significantly differently, but that's purely because Bismarck was outnumbered

THANKS lol finally hahaha

I was waiting for the hood to get hooded anyone else?

*ammo rack joke here*

flashbacks

Explosion of comments and ammunition!

Battlecruisers just ain't it

New Update and the weight distribution is still messed up :/ It still encourages putting the turrets as far at the stern as possible. It just looks silly and unhistorical.

Was interested in this game until I saw that it has the ridiculous "over pen" mechanic

Lol... 18 inches on Hood's Hull = capsizing after first salvo. 😅 Heck evev HMS Furious in her days as Battlecruiser carried only TWO 410mm guns (single barrel in two towers) due overall Battlecruiser specifications which limits general size of the main guns and armor in favor of high speed. Because of that BC's "design flaw" many historians are pointed that Hood should NEVER be sent against Bismarck not only because of her overall age but such lack of armor (especially deck one) to be proper adversary for brand new German BB... Heck, even David Beatty known that you should never send Battlecruiser to face Battleship because BC would not stand Ant chance against BB. 😏

@jugganaut33

4 жыл бұрын

Ironically Had the Washington Naval Treaty not happened. Britain would have built the N3/G3 16-18” Classes to accompany Hood. Realistically that would have been a fair fight seeing as they were approved in 1921. R&D, construction etc. Built for 1925-26. They would have been at least a decades technology more modern.

I’ve been through at least 5 or 6 attempts at this mission, and it’s thoroughly kicking my ass. Even in my last attempt when the AI for some reason gave “Bismarck” only 13.8” maximum armor, standard bulkheads and just 4x2 14” mark IV’s, I still couldn’t put it down. My guns were maybe landing a hit every 3rd or 4th salvo, while his were getting at least 2 overpens per salvo. I only managed to bring him down to 77%, while he just gradually whittled down my HP to nothing. Instead of going out in a catastrophic explosion from a single “golden bullet”, it was a humiliating death by a thousand cuts.

@TheHistoryGuy

4 жыл бұрын

I'm just glad to hear I'm not alone in failing this one!

Can't pass this mission... seriously, I got ammo rack every time...

@TheHistoryGuy

4 жыл бұрын

Glad I'm not alone in not passing so far

The new patch is broken... the armor is increased so the guns do almost none to zero damage. Also the accuracy is downgraded with the patch.

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