Excellent review!!!!

Great review. I also own both of these packs. I like them both, but for a day hike or a quick overnight i still go with the daybreak.

@brianbodedelacruz8741

8 ай бұрын

Can you elaborate as to why you prefer the daybreak for what you mentioned? I am trying to decide between the two. Thank you in advance!

@gabrimarga1

2 ай бұрын

Do you think that the Daybreak 17 or Elevate 22 could be a valid backpack for normal day-to-day use, such as going to work or university? I mean, of course I would like to buy one of these for trekking, but considering the price, I would like to use a backpack like this 360 days a year. Is the fabric strong enough?

@benjamin8247

Ай бұрын

@@gabrimarga1did you watch the video?

Do you think Daybreak 17 is good for long day hikes with all-season weather like in Patagonia where I need to pack fleece, insulated jacket, and rain/wind shell and Sony A7 series camera?

Kinda on the heavy side for a daypack but they look good. I have a palante joey as a daypack and that comes in at 13oz.

@BackcountryRenegade

9 ай бұрын

love to get my hands on one of those packs

Thank you for this video. Very informative and well produced. Can either of these daypacks "pack down" similar to Hyperlite's Summit 30?

@BackcountryRenegade

9 ай бұрын

The elevate 22 will be more similar as far as pack down to that

great video. what did you ad at the top to cinch the ice axe so firmly? I'm debating between this and the summit 30.

@BackcountryRenegade

2 ай бұрын

I just had a custom Paracord with a bungee cinch

Could the elevate 22 fit well under airplane seat for travel? Trying to find the perfect bag for day hikes, travel, daily use.

@BackcountryRenegade

7 ай бұрын

yes, it will fit easily

Do you think either of these could work for a child doing short backpacking trips? He’s under 5 feet. I’d be carrying some of his gear.

Do you think that the Daybreak 17 or Elevate 22 could be a valid backpack for normal day-to-day use, such as going to work or university? I mean, of course I would like to buy one of these for trekking, but considering the price, I would like to use a backpack like this 360 days a year. Is the fabric strong enough?

@BackcountryRenegade

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, if you were going to use it as that I would go with the daybreak. It’s more traditional style. It would be really well suited for work in school while also being able to be a day hiking bag.

Thanks for the video! No offense but you misunderstand the durability of DCF. It is not very durable compared to other pack materials especially when it comes to abrasion resistance. Nylon, Liteskin, Gridstop, Ultra, Canvas, Leather - everything is more durable than DCF when compared. People accept the trade off due to the weight savings of DCF and the other advantages you mentioned. Even then the roll top crinkles will eventually lead to delamination. I've seen it. Hyperlite gets around this by using very thick DCF so it becomes acceptable durability wise. But then there's literally no reason to use expensive DCF. The Daybreak 17 weighs a staggering 21oz. Compare this for example to a Zimmerbuilt Quickstep DCF which weighs below 10oz while being larger and costing less. And it's handmade in the US. Nothing wrong if you like the packs, I just think it's important to state facts when it comes to durability.

@BackcountryRenegade

9 ай бұрын

I’m referring to strength to weight ratio. Which is obviously not apples to oranges comparison. Sure dcf has its cons but fact is it is far better weight to strength ratio and stronger in comparison. This is why they can use far lesser denier. I’m not saying this is comparable the durability to nylon, that’s not why one gets dcf.

@wio2189

9 ай бұрын

@@BackcountryRenegade Appreciate the reply. Yes, it's very strong. My comment referred to you stating that DCF has good durability. For durability, abrasion resistance and resistance to crinkles is very important, don't you agree?

@BackcountryRenegade

9 ай бұрын

@@wio2189Hyperlight doesn’t get around it by using thicker dcf, if u are familiar with them at all they use very thin for the purpose of being light weight yet still have strong dependable pack. 50 d and 150 d max. Where typical cordura packs are far thicker and heavier. Sure it’s not as durable as cordura but that’s a given. My point is this, for how thin it is it is dependable and durable enough for what you’re getting if you know how to properly care for it. Therefore the pros exceed the cons which is why I use it. It not for everyone but for the weight savings for me it’s worth it. I do agree it needs proper care for it and is not as abrasive as cordura, but that’s not why anyone really gets dcf. Are there better materials? Sure ultra is an example, but that’s the beauty of backpacking, u have a lot of variety to choose from and different price points

My Osprey 22....$120... those prices are double? I don't think 🤔 so.

@BackcountryRenegade

9 ай бұрын

Haha yep these are definitely luxury and expensive packs not for everyone. Ospreys are great affordability and dependable

@eric_festinger

9 ай бұрын

Nice and complete comparison 👍🏻 I own the Daybreak which I love for day hikes.

I got both the Elevate 22 and the Summit 30 last year, absolutely correct on the size - the Elevate 22 runs smaller than sized for some reason. I ended up keeping the Elevate 22 despite the smaller cut, it’s still an awesome little EDC pack…I only have two bottles of water, some protein bars, first aid and some spare clothing so it’s not full by any means and sits right on my back.

@DavidSk2683

2 ай бұрын

What did you think of the summit 30?

@ninjasquirrels

2 ай бұрын

@@DavidSk2683 I like it better than the smaller Elevate 22 for a few reasons; 1) it fits better under a bigger and/or heavier load. 2) it’s more adaptable in the sense that you can make it just as small as the 22L pack if you want and/or need. 3) there’s less stuff on it, technically this may be arguable but…it “feels” more sleek and slimline so, if I have it on me while in route (airport, public transportation etc) it’s less likely to snag and stuff. 4) I like the removable panel, this is not included and have to be purchased separately but; well worth it. If I need it it’s there and if I don’t it’s not…love it. TLDR: If I could buy just one, it would definitely be the Summit. Not cheap but well worth it.

@DavidSk2683

2 ай бұрын

@@ninjasquirrels Thank you very much for such elaborated response. I’ve been trying to decide between these two and it seems like the Summit is more versatile then. Where do you put your bottles of water in the summit. Did you buy the holder for it as well?

@ninjasquirrels

2 ай бұрын

@@DavidSk2683 both outside and inside, depending on the distance, speed and conditions. I do a minimum of 6.2 miles every day so I change the content almost daily.

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The visuals and commentary are good, but let me make two suggestions that will make future videos even better: (1) The background music adds nothing. It is distracting, particularly since it has vocals. Sometimes the music makes your voiceover a little hard to understand. The viewer should be drawn to your comments and to the visuals and shouldn't be trying to figure out what the music is. (2) You use the word "here" dozens and dozens of times. In one 20-word segment you said "here" four times. In no instance was "here" necessary. I guess it's one of those Millennial and Gen Z speech habits, much as young women use "like" three times in every sentence and think it is a synonym for "said." Try not to use "here" even once, until you break the habit. The result will be a smoother narration.