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Hiwatt vs Orange vs Mesa-Boogie: What's the Difference? | Reverb Tone Report
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Treat yourself or find the perfect gift for your favorite music maker. Orange, Hiwatt, and Mesa-Boogie amps are associated with big stages, searing lead tones, and massive arena-certified volume levels. The brands have maintained relevance for decades, and today, Andy is running through some of the unique qualities that makes each one of these legacy amp brands truly memorable.
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1:40 My man not only has an invisible pick, he also has an invisible trem. Next thing you know Andy's gonna learn to coil split by snapping his fingers
@stanislavmigra
5 жыл бұрын
Looks like Andy is Timelord or something like that ...
@heggy_69
5 жыл бұрын
He's pulling the bridge up lol
@Spudgun88
4 жыл бұрын
He's playing with his fingers and pulling the bridge, how can you not see that?!
@MikeTappokone
4 жыл бұрын
that's not the bridge it's the head
@jamesha175
4 жыл бұрын
@@MikeTappokone it is the bridge. the head is where the tuning knobs are.
Admit it Andy. This video exists so you could play Echoes through a Hiwatt. I'm saying this out of pure unbridled jealousy.
@grayaj23
4 жыл бұрын
@j77 I mean, if I had time travel -- you can forget all the "let's change history" options. I'd just keep going back to listen to PF playing a concert for dead people. It would never get old.
@heftosprod
4 жыл бұрын
@j77 Or... the best music video of all time
@lordmanshaft1112
4 жыл бұрын
He even broke out an outboard RE20
@wodenoftheangles3339
3 жыл бұрын
Seemed to me he couldn't hide his joy at the Orange.
@tyfrey_
3 жыл бұрын
It’s the truth!
that Hiwatt may be one of the best sounding amps i've ever heard
@regortex3364
3 жыл бұрын
I’ve owned a DR-103 since the 80’s. They are very stiff, glassy, ice picky, sterile, at lower volumes. They are actually painful to listen to, UNLESS, they are pushed to their sweet spot, then they become why they’re known as one of the best amps ever made. An attenuator is a must, unless you play in an incredibly loud band.
@mattthrun-nowicki8641
3 жыл бұрын
@@regortex3364 Hiwatts are designed to be pushed, hence why they're built like tanks!
@regortex3364
3 жыл бұрын
@@mattthrun-nowicki8641 -no argument here, I think they’re misunderstood and not that popular because most players won’t be able to play at the volume required for them to sound good, me included, hence the attenuator and it’s double duty as a bass head sometimes.
@mattthrun-nowicki8641
3 жыл бұрын
@@regortex3364 Agreed. Thank heavens for a Fryette PowerStation!
@regortex3364
3 жыл бұрын
@@mattthrun-nowicki8641 - I’ve never tried that attenuator, I owned a THD Hotplate and Dr.Z Airbrake, but settled on a Ho’s Electronics unit that is actually a reamper/attenuator but works and sounds the best for me. There’s so many options nowadays, I’d love to try the Fryette and some of the newer ones that have come along.
Man, I never really hear a hi-watt in isolation. So beautiful with those cleans
Y’all gotta do Sovtek, Supro, and Ampeg next!
@kevinbothwell8425
5 жыл бұрын
Yes! And maybe throw in the ehx mig 50 for good measure...not too many good demos of that one...
@benedekgabor.
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I third that
@meexiko
5 жыл бұрын
Ampeg v4 / v2 / vt22 / vt40. One amp to rule them all.
@shmooless3699
5 жыл бұрын
60s fender bassman is the best amp ever without a doubt
@Grungebob_Squaredance
5 жыл бұрын
Mizrahy Aquino ampeg Reverberocket for the win!
There is something magical about Hiwatt ... I get that special Pink Floyd vibe instantly ...
Soldano, Peavy and Bogner would make a good hi-gain amps video.
@Reverb
5 жыл бұрын
That would be a fun one!
@Beegpapijimbo
5 жыл бұрын
Laney, Engl, Carvin? Three brands associated with virtuoso players
@Mesa3077Boogie
5 жыл бұрын
Not so much on the Peavey though.. Unless there's a magical Peavey I don't know about..?
@charlessale409
5 жыл бұрын
@@Mesa3077Boogie everyone with a beard and a metal neck guitar is jacking it hard for Peaveys these days.
@craigrusse11
5 жыл бұрын
Mesa3077Boogie 5150
Simply a beautiful series where everyone can clearly see the diffrenceses between those amps. Thank you Andy. Hope to see more of this.
matamp, sunn and sovtek would be really awesome
Hiwatt: huge headroom, it's kinda like a clean of a Fender and the Drive of a Marshall blended together Mesa Boogie: tends to be a little mids-scoop with whatever gain/drive setting and volume, which helps a lot those who are looking for distorted tones still able to distinguish each individual note in a full and complex bar chord with all extensions, also giving a great sustain while mantaining clarity Orange: Huge mids-hump, which allows to use just a little bit of gain, and sound like the amp was cracked and blowing up of so much drive/dirt
@DrewPeabaws
4 жыл бұрын
I love my hiwatt. Great clean sound, but once you put some gain in it’s a pure rock machine.
@Art-zs6sl
3 жыл бұрын
Mesa actually tends to have more kids IMO. Many scoop it, because they have to.
@dimiaraujo90
3 жыл бұрын
@@Art-zs6sl Compared to a Fender, yes, Mesas have more Mids. Compared to most British amps, Mesas have a lot less Mids.
@skylersample5356
2 жыл бұрын
never thought i would see complex and bar chord in the same sentence
@EllisAudio
2 жыл бұрын
i feel like you might have a preference for mesa boogie lmao
This series is awesome!! Laney, Matchless and Sovtek next, please!
Andy knows his gear . Guitars amps and pedals. He is a great resource.
Oh by the way. Dude I am really impressed with your guitar playing. i always find it interesting to see a finger style guitar player really be able to cut it up. Hell of a style you have there.
Definite props for playing Echoes with that Hiwatt, one of my favourite Floyd songs/riffs and it just works so damn well
@guitarristainiciante2142
9 ай бұрын
This song is my favorite too 😍
I could listen to Andy play Who songs on that HiWatt all day
@jaschul
4 жыл бұрын
Mark Knopfler plays Pete Townshend songs, basically
Thumbs up for "Echoes" PF riffs!
LOVEU ANDY FOR PLAYING ECHOES FOR THE HIWATT DEMO
I don't care about the amps, honestly. I just came to see Andy play.
No love for the Mesa boogie? That thing was sick!
@michaelgreen5206
3 жыл бұрын
Agree!!!
@TheShannontsmith
5 ай бұрын
I have had Mesa amps for a long time. I have heard the hot rodded fender statement before. It does have a sustain and singing lead tone like no other amp I’ve played. The muddy sound I was hearing from the demo is nothing like any Mark amps I have used. To his defense if you are used to other brands setting up a boogie is a different animal. The knobs have 10 on them but you should never get past 7 on anything. If you know you know. 🤓
@Austin_Bourque_
3 ай бұрын
Bc they are thrash amps amp the demo didn’t give u the scooped chuga chuga goodness
First: great explanation and you seem a very nice guy. Then: your playing style is top notch, fingerpicking to the highest level!
The previous Marshall, Vox, Fender demo had more info on why they were different than this presentation did. Kind of lacked the fact that Mesa pioneered the cascade gain stage. Or didn't exactly cover why Oranges have that distinct sounding fizzy breakup. Definitely need to do cover Soldano and their SLO circuit.
@georgefromgreece4119
3 жыл бұрын
Insightful info here! Spot on!
@moustachio334
2 жыл бұрын
Only Rockerverbs get fizzy and it’s easy to control with the eq knob. Just a dumb generalization. My O50 was very well balanced tonally and had a good EQ. A bit fuzzy on the third gain stage but that’s what the amp was made for. But you just set the knobs all at 12 and you can play any classic rock song out there. I love Mesa amps but i just wish they’d release a MKII head for good.
@sparkyguitar0058
2 жыл бұрын
Boogies are great when they work right. But if any repairs are needed Lord help you. That's why the only Boogie I want and got are old Mark 1 or S O B's. Not as quite cramped and messed up inside. Not perfect by any means. My S O B is only 7 knobs so not so twisted inside. But not like an early Fender amp either.
@jasondorsey7110
2 жыл бұрын
Soldano's something of a late-comer...I'm wondering why there's no love for ampeg, they came along well before mesa/boogie even
Had an early Mesa Boogie, and that had one Altec in it along with a on Altec extension. That amp could get a wide range of tones. Before I built the Koa Wood cabinet for it as a combo, the original speaker top head was used with a 4 - 12" celestion cabinet. That sounded great. If you can only have one amp (I had two) the Mesa covers a lot of territory.
Please do a vintage combo series with: Fender (Tweeds, Harvard, Champ, 5E3 circuit), original Gibson amps, and the original Supro/Valco combos
@tuomas_
3 жыл бұрын
T H I S
Andy, your love of reverend guitars makes me smile.
Oh god I was so into Fender Hot Rods but these HiWatts are starting to convert me
classic old-school solid state...Lab Series, Kustom and Roland JC
@jkf9167
5 жыл бұрын
Sunn as well. And Acoustic!
@cliffords2315
5 жыл бұрын
Yea and Acoustic 120 was also a Sweet sounding Old School Solid State..........problem is the capactors need to be replaced every so many years. And the GMT solid state lead amp that Santana used in 69,.
@chrisw5742
5 жыл бұрын
I used to use Kustom heads with a distortion pedal. My band used to play out with bands who had Boogies and were known to be the heaviest and best band around. Well I get done with my set and some dude comes up to me saying "holy shit your tone fucking blows theirs away". And yep capacitors kept bowing out.
@fvckoff4ever561
5 жыл бұрын
Also those great old SS Sunn and Acoustic amps
@bryanherward4679
5 жыл бұрын
Had a Lab Series L7...so loud and punchy, it would knock the fillings out of your teeth.
Duuuuuude I love these videos. Please keep doing stuff like this. I love it.
Even though it's now the Etsy Tone Report, Andy still rules!
I could listen to Andy play all day, world class player!
My first religious/spiritual experience was playing through an old Hi Watt stack back in 83'. I was 15 years old. I have never had that experience since. There is nothing like the feel of pushing all that air. It makes you play different in a good way, and it feels amazing!!! I have only gigged with Fender combo amps over the years, and they are awesome, but NOTHING compares to that fateful day in that guy's garage trying out his HI WATT at full volume with my 335!!!!!
That was a tasty "Echoes" riff on the Hiwatt
Awesome! Looking forward to the next one!
Great video! All the amps sounded killer. I'm living my EL84 powered Rocket-32 from Orange. The Stereo effects loop makes it VERY versital.
Great video Andy 👍 great playing
That last tone at the end of the video played through that Fred Flinstone looking guitar was amazing
I'd love to see an amp roundup of some boutique brands--Tone King, Carr, Dr. Z., Benson.
@samclarke653
5 жыл бұрын
Megawatt too
@hibernative
5 жыл бұрын
I don't need it; I'm all over Tone King!
@peterpansie5
5 жыл бұрын
Boomer amps
@Jeff-11_354
5 жыл бұрын
Carr!
@TatersUnited
5 жыл бұрын
Dr. Z are the best sounding amps I’ve ever played.
My brother bought a Hiwatt Custom 100 in the 70s from Kalua Music in Scarborough, Ontario. They brought 'em in, straight from England...in fact, my big bro got the first one out of the crate! But Kalua had an English techie guy who would mod them before they even hit the sales floor. So....Normal channel still gave you clean tones up to insane volume levels but the Brilliant channel would give overdrive into white noise regions! Still to this day, the most impressive amp I've ever heard.
Andy, I want you to demo an Ampeg VT-22 or VT-40. Those QOTSA riffs of yours deserve it!
@scotchrobbins
5 жыл бұрын
Hell, we'll settle for an early-model V4.
I'm loving my ORANGE Rocker 30 at the moment! I also love my early 90's Marshall JCM 900...I guess it just depends on what I'm playing.
Awesome! I love this series! Supro and others next?
Andy, how do you find your invisible pick?
@Reverb
5 жыл бұрын
Andy is a wizard. We thought everyone knew this.
@cour1988
5 жыл бұрын
Andy is never late, he arrives precisely when he means to
@r.weaver3769
5 жыл бұрын
@@Reverb He is the Chuck Norris of the guitar world! Just sayin'
@istvandejesus
5 жыл бұрын
It floats trough the air. He grabs it when he needs it. 😂
@idiosyncraticmushroom3030
4 жыл бұрын
Magic and a lot of Boogie. That’s how
The Hiwatt can make use of reverbs, the Marshall, not so much.
Like the fact you are using a REVEREND GUITAR - Nice!!
Great to test that Hiwatt with Echoes and Can't Explain. Next comparison should be Laney vs Peavey vs Dual Rectifier (80s generation)
This channel's an amazing resource.
That Mark iii is capable of so much more.
Terrific - learnt a lot - Thanks!!
“...to something super HEAVY.” Yessir, I’ll drink to that. 🤘🏼🍺
Nice review 👍🏻
Very cool.....Andy does an excellent job explaining the history and demoing the sound of these amps......Bravo
@Brembelia
Жыл бұрын
Would like to see a demo of the Marshall Bluesbreaker.
Great Video Andy!!!!
Tasty playing man, awesome fingerstyle
Some suggestions for future amp roundups: The Grails/unattainables: Trainwreck, overdrive special, steel string singer, etc. high gain monsters: engl, diezel, soldano, Friedman Boutique trailblazers, mid 00-to 10s boutique trends: Dr z, bad cat, divided by 13 Cult classics: matamp, cornford, krank
Orange is my first amp I enjoyed when I played it with the micro terror. I moved on since then. But when I see an orange amp I play it and just enjoy the awesome tone these amps push out.
@leerogers9052
4 жыл бұрын
What do you use now?
@FantasticExplorers
4 жыл бұрын
What you play now?
@mixn5919
4 жыл бұрын
tell us Emmanuel pls
@fernandocarrillo8875
4 жыл бұрын
For the love of God tell us we need to know
@ivana4029
4 жыл бұрын
What are you waiting? Must know NOW!!
I love that color of strat... really stands out beautifully
The dual rectifier is prolly one of my favorite amps to ever be made as well as the or120 cause you always need to be able to doom
Supro, Mad Professor and Victoria would be great! And thanks for this one! ☝️
Awesome video as always ! Considering buying a Mesa
@friedkin71
5 жыл бұрын
BlackofAzur proud owner of a mark v 35 watt. Had it for a couple years and just love it. It really boogies!
Another very useful video!
Ampeg, Supro and Laney please! Excellent show BTW
Reverb makes great vids. Awesome subject.
Love the round up. Thank you. I’m picking up a vox ac30. And a Cascino lol.
My early 70s 130 watt Orange Amplifier was a lot like a HighWatt. I was running 8 - 12" Altec speakers too. It was hard to push that amp hard enough to break up ... without hurting anyone in the audience.
I use an Orange Crush 35rt in my home and it is great. Who ever thought that a 35 watt would be sooo loud. 100% recommend.
@idiosyncraticmushroom3030
4 жыл бұрын
@aNtiDIsEsTabLisHMenTaRiAniSM StRuCtuREd aGaiNSt yOu yeah it was like at 2 and it was crazy loud. And the worst part is you can't even overdrive the clean channel because high headroom technology and so I can't drive it super loud and overdriven like I can a Fender Blues Deluxe or a Marshall JTM45. But that makes it great for layering like a Klon clone into a Tonebender clone or like running a TS9 into a Rams Head Muff. Its just loud and clean, and since I roll the treble low my clean tone is rather muddy but I like that. Just the best overall for me.
Thanks a lot for great series))) How about Friedman, Bogner and Bad Cat
Do some more of these, please!
Andy. Love your vids. Awesome playing! How do you keep any fingernails?!? Mine would be gone in a day w/o a pick while slamming chords.
Excellent video ✌
The history of Peavey would make a good video!
the AD30 is one of the best amps I’ve ever owned, does its thing like no other.
@alexk5325
5 жыл бұрын
negativeland totally
Love the Emperor cab too, wish there were some more of them out there!
Your videos have made me a huge fan of Reverb the company. They should probably give you stock in the company
Andy = great guitarist! THANKS for showing me that a Hiwatt can be effectively used with finger style!
It doesn't seem to be very popular, but I've been pleased with my Orange Rocker 32 combo.
For amp suggestions for a video, what about a comparison of a few small, lesser known "boutique" amps in a variety of price ranges? I happened upon the Fender pawn shop series today (was looking for the pawn shop mustang bass) and was intrigued what was up with those little pawn shop amps that look so cool. It seems every famous studio has a few weird, old tiny amps so I figured it must be about unique tone but an expert could make a great video on some of these.
What would you think of a shoot out between “Marshall killers” such as the Ampeg Lee Jackson VL-1002 vs Rivera Knucklehead vs Carvin X-100B?
Super helpful video. Do you guys have a video related to Friedman or Supro amps?
Love this! Let’s go with silvertone, Supro, and maybe some other odd ball brand?
@Reverb
5 жыл бұрын
Sovtek? Soldano? Alliteration nation.
@r3dr43
5 жыл бұрын
Oh Hell yes! Sovtek!
@r3dr43
5 жыл бұрын
This example of alliteration should be used in a English classroom
@tinyb69
5 жыл бұрын
A vintage Gibson GA-5.
Might as well start doing bass amps as well
The Orange sounds insane. I’ve never heard an amp with so much sag, but also extreme clarity.
@petergraham9267
5 жыл бұрын
D C yep.......my fav ROCK amp! 😎😎😎👍
@jaycee30865
5 жыл бұрын
D C The class a amp doesn’t really sag. According to “the last word in class a” by Aiken amps. It’s always running right at its limit on the high tension line. But very very dynamic actually and holds itself together unbelievably well; no farting out. Frighteningly loud too. I don’t know why they used a rectifier; maybe to smooth it out slightly when cranked all the way. Should be the same with ss rectification.
@tonedover
3 жыл бұрын
Orange is underrated. And its surprising how well they cut in the mix
Please evaluate Supro and Two Rock!! I am about to buy a new amp and those videos are helping me to decide 😃
Mesa Boogies and Oranges are my Amps of choice, along with a tiny Vox Mini 3 G2 amp.
That is a beautiful shade of blue on that guitar!
I was surprised at how good the orange sounded.
@FantasticExplorers
4 жыл бұрын
You should play some when you see them!
@stephanemelo
4 жыл бұрын
Orange rocks. Like, really.
@tuomas_
3 жыл бұрын
As a former AD30 owner, I 100% agree. If you want an Orange-in-a-box pedal, the Monarch by EarthQuaker Devices is superior to anything else.
Out of the 6 demonstrated amps so far, Fender still takes the lead... Great videos btw. :-)
I would like to see some love for Ampeg, Peavey, and Blackstar. Btw I liked the Mesa more as the other ones.
Definition a Laney AOR or Iommi LA100, an HH 100, and a Musicman HD130. All good and individual toned amps.
Please do a bass amp comparison like this, cheers!
Love that classic orange crunch!
I seriously didn't knew about hiwatt. Why this brand doesn't come in disscussions more often? This amp kicks ass.
@ianbarcelos
5 жыл бұрын
Gilmour used a lot for all I know.
@EliseoCaporale
5 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I thought!! I thought for their brand name that they were some kind of modern metal amp, and I never bothered to search for them, now I want one as a pedal platform!!!
@gabrielledebourg2487
5 жыл бұрын
They are quite expensive - and unlike amps like Marshall they haven’t really been copied or inspired many other amps, meaning fewer people has gotten close to a Hiwatt-like sound early on. And the need for super high headroom clean amps went down a lot of when we didn’t need as high stage volume and while they probably could get a revival today as pedal platforms, we’ve started to see dedicated boutiqe pedal platform amps taking such a place. But I love the sound of a pushed Hiwatt: just listen to Live at Leeds. The only cheaper amp I’ve heard getting into that territory has been the Laney Lionheart, incidentally the amp I own!
I’ve always been curious about Bad Cat. I’ve looking for something with bright, dreamy cleans but thick and dirty overdrive. I believe that’s what’s used on some of Saves The Day’s “In Reverie” record.
How about doing this test, but, playing the same parts on each amp so that you can really hear the difference compared to different parts that are optimized specially for each amp? The Who fan in me would like to hear how licks by The Who would sound on the Orange Amp, and to a lesser degree, the Mesa Boogie (because Pete Townshend may well have recorded some things with his, unaware to us).
I'd love to see a Dumble or Dumble type amp in the mix!
@phwildman124
2 жыл бұрын
Dumble, Soldano, and Ampeg would be super interesting!!
Great to see these amps side by side. How about doing a sessionette 75 watt ?
Hiwatt should make a 0.5 watt version
@bradbarker4041
5 жыл бұрын
"Halfwatt"
@kevinsandstrom5833
5 жыл бұрын
They do, I have one called Hiwatt Little D, 20/0.5w version of David Gilmour's Hiwatt.
@Jacksonkellyfreak
5 жыл бұрын
then it would be a Lowatt. They can't do that.
@TheChadPad
5 жыл бұрын
@@kevinsandstrom5833 That's the most ironic amp and I love it
@NiRo_90125
5 жыл бұрын
Kevin Sandstrom they had little rig models for Pete Townshend and Jimmy Page, that were based on the SSP and SSJ. The Little D was based on the SSD, which had one normal input, one bright input and one linked input. The SSP had 4 different channels with their own independent volume controls, thus sacrificing the middle and presence controls. The SSJ had two regular inputs and an input for an XLR footswitch that turned on or off the balance control. Now however there is just the Hiwatt Little Rig, which is basically the Little D.
Disney/Pixar present, "Andy and his amazing invisible pick". Coming to a theatre near you.
Estaba esperando este video
Holy shit, what a finger magic Andy produces.. Just amazing!
That Hiwatt is just beautiful !!
That hiwatt sounded awesome. I wonder if they make a midwatt version..🤔
@tomyork6311
3 жыл бұрын
DR 508, fifty watter