Hitler wasn’t a Nationalist | Yoram Hazony

In this clip, John and Yoram Hazony discuss the cause of declining support for nationalism in the West. Hazony makes the case this is primarily a consequence of the erroneous conflation between national socialism and nationalism.
Philosopher, scholar and political theorist Dr. Yoram Hazony joins John for a rich and interweaving conversation about conservatism, nationalism, democracy and modern politics. Dr. Hazony, who has recently completed books on several of these topics, provides a compelling critique of the political right - where has gone wrong, the great benefits it can convey for society and how it diverges from liberalism.
John and Yoram touch on many important topic areas, including multiculturalism, identity politics, globalism and why nationalism seems to be surrounded by an unearned air of controversy.
Yoram Hazony is an Israeli philosopher, Bible scholar and political theorist. He is President of the Herzl Institute in Jerusalem and Chairman of the Edmund Burke Foundation. He has written several books, including The Virtue of Nationalism (2018) and his latest, Conservatism: A Rediscovery (2022), which have both met popular and critical success.
Educated at Princeton University (B.A. in East Asian Studies), and Rutgers University (Ph.D in Political Theory), Yoram founded and was the first editor of Princeton’s conservative student journal, The Princeton Tory, while still an undergraduate. He lives in Jerusalem with his wife Yael Hazony. They have nine children.
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  • @kayleneemery8217
    @kayleneemery821711 ай бұрын

    I have learned a great deal about love and appreciation of Nation from you and your guests over the past 3 Yeats John . I continually learn from your channel - thank you.

  • @BankruptStates
    @BankruptStates11 ай бұрын

    Nativism - protect the interests of native-born or established inhabitants

  • @erlofcambridge7006
    @erlofcambridge700611 ай бұрын

    The problem wasn't his Nationalism, it was his Socialism!

  • @555Trout
    @555Trout11 ай бұрын

    I'm very interested in AH's political theory. He darn near conquered the world.

  • @AuraysTimelessChannel

    @AuraysTimelessChannel

    11 ай бұрын

    There is a book written in 1960 about all this. The Nazis had diaries and recorded much of their lives and ideology, day by day. Basically lie, lie, lie, propaganda, violence, intimidation, feigning peace talks, and pure ruthless brutality.

  • @paulrevere5197

    @paulrevere5197

    11 ай бұрын

    Germany was by far the most effective and well trained fighting force in the world at that time. Their technology was also the best. It took a near total world effort to defeat them and should (if we care to look closely) prove who the money power was then, and today.

  • @555Trout

    @555Trout

    11 ай бұрын

    @@paulrevere5197 Indeed.

  • @franekspeak953

    @franekspeak953

    11 ай бұрын

    The political theory was to tell the nation that they deserve better and to find an enemy to blame, so that all the nation would be united. Additionally, he managed to built a cult of himself as an omnipotent dictator and centralised the decision making for everything, including the economy. I would add however, that it was a different kind of centralisation than the top-down approach of the Soviet Union. In my opinion AH introduced something like the modern governance through values by repetitively proliferating values (many of them were anti-values from our perspective) and letting the government as well as normal people to fulfill these values in the best way they could. That created a kind of a competition of ideas and solutions around AH, in the end leading to the worst things ever witnessed in the human history.

  • @555Trout

    @555Trout

    11 ай бұрын

    @@franekspeak953 Sort of like how our current regime is recruiting "black" people?

  • @Peter_Pepper_the_Pickled_Piper
    @Peter_Pepper_the_Pickled_Piper11 ай бұрын

    EVERY SINGLE TIME🤦🏾‍♂️🙆‍♂️🤦🏼‍♀️

  • @tomhamilton7726
    @tomhamilton772611 ай бұрын

    Excellent analysis.

  • @txdmsk
    @txdmsk11 ай бұрын

    I remember losing some "friends" when I read Adolf's book. I actually recommend reading and analysing it. Well, that is if you have two brain cells to smack together. You can learn how to use language and ideas to incite hatred, pull people together, and move their hearts. He often associates eww and icky words with a certain ethnic group (sorry for talking in riddles, KZread automatically deletes comments if it deems your language naughty). He says things like how bad they smell, how they don't like to bathe, and so on. I wonder if Adolf knew about this stuff instinctively or was just lucky, but modern science is clear that associated uncleaniless, disease and eww and icky stuff with people will make you feel moral / political and other types of disgust as well.

  • @kotarorune
    @kotarorune11 ай бұрын

    He absolutely was a nationalist.

  • @JullianRoman
    @JullianRoman11 ай бұрын

    John. I’d be great if you could interview the US Bishop Robert Barrón

  • @oskar6607
    @oskar660711 ай бұрын

    I don’t really agree with Mr. Anderson that nationalism has now fallen into disrepute. It was certainly the case for a long time that it was in disrepute, also here in Sweden 🇸🇪. However, over the past couple of years nationalism has become more popular here in 🇸🇪 and even liberals are trying to co-opt it by saying they are ‘liberal’ nationalists and recently the head of the Social Democratic Party here in 🇸🇪 came out saying she was a “patriot.”

  • @edwardrburgess3308
    @edwardrburgess330811 ай бұрын

    Spot On!

  • @jdsiv3
    @jdsiv34 ай бұрын

    but we dont believe in nationalism for everyone. We believe in nationalism for "free liberal democracies on the western model"

  • @mohamedali2858
    @mohamedali285811 ай бұрын

    Nationalism that was the engine that moved all imperialist colonial Europe criticizes German imperialist colonial nationalism

  • @alongsleep

    @alongsleep

    11 ай бұрын

    Have you heard of the Arab Invasion, in which all of North Africa was conquered?

  • @mohamedali2858

    @mohamedali2858

    11 ай бұрын

    @@alongsleep The Arab " invasion" has gained minds and hearts and has been accepted and embraced to this day in that spot you mentioned & many other places. But colonial imperialism was fought and defeated in all parts of the world Can you tell why is that ⁉️

  • @alongsleep

    @alongsleep

    11 ай бұрын

    @@mohamedali2858 Because they killed or enslaved or forced to convert everyone in their path. Look up the castration of African slaves by Arabs. Dont pretend they weren't conquering other peoples.

  • @edwardrburgess3308

    @edwardrburgess3308

    11 ай бұрын

    Nationalism and Imperialism are not the same thing.

  • @mohamedali2858

    @mohamedali2858

    11 ай бұрын

    @@edwardrburgess3308 I think They are crocodile jaws, can you tell how they are not related ⁉️

  • @robhaythorne4464
    @robhaythorne446411 ай бұрын

    Lots of words, meaning nothing. Define your terms, or don't argue.

  • @rampartranger7749
    @rampartranger774911 ай бұрын

    I would point out that in the 1950’s and 1960’s was commonly referred to as “The Age of Nationalism” because former colonies were becoming independent nations. So all of us that “leaned liberal” loved the term.

  • @thomasjoseph3488
    @thomasjoseph348811 ай бұрын

    Of course, this Jew is the expert on National Socialism. Sure.

  • @ArnoldTohtFan

    @ArnoldTohtFan

    11 ай бұрын

    they always are, aren't they? as Joyce says, they insert themselves like barnacles into those channels via which a culture converses _with_ itself _about_ itself. if we abandon Christian ethics, abandon soul equality, we can then restore our immune system and flush out all these parasites that are overwhelming us.

  • @iggyblitz8739
    @iggyblitz873911 ай бұрын

    Ok, but even if he was not all Nationalism is bad anyway, if it's done the right way with no evil intentions snd just forthright policies protecting the nerds of the country without any fanaticism or extreme ideas, then so be it.

  • @zargonfuture4046
    @zargonfuture404611 ай бұрын

    Sounds like American in its being as Mistress of the world today.

  • @peterwebb8732

    @peterwebb8732

    11 ай бұрын

    Not true. America, for all its faults, does not dictate to its neighbours in the way that Germany did .

  • @txdmsk

    @txdmsk

    11 ай бұрын

    Son, there must always be a Lich King, otherwise the Scourge will run amok, headless. If there is no leviathan deterring others from behaving badly, then there is war and destruction until a leviathan is born from the ashes. As the US starts to fizzle out (not when, but as), we will see wannabe strongman nations flex their military, economic, geopolitical muscles to an extent of hot wars.

  • @em0_tion
    @em0_tion11 ай бұрын

    "Nationalist - a person who strongly identifies with their own nation and vigorously supports its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations." 🤔

  • @peterwebb8732

    @peterwebb8732

    11 ай бұрын

    Not necessarily true. The world is connected and it is not a zero-sum game. Therefore you can love your nation while simultaneously accepting the truth that the interests of your nation are often best served by having due regard to the interests of others. Trade and alliances are good examples. You give something you have, to get something you need, and both parties are better off.

  • @em0_tion

    @em0_tion

    11 ай бұрын

    @@peterwebb8732 I'm just quoting the definition and by it, he *is* a nationalist, which directly contradicts with the video title. Nothing to do with your (or my) personal interpretations and implementations of the word. Words have meaning. Facts, not feelings and beliefs. Just like a chicken is a bird, even though it can't fly. 😉✌

  • @allansmith3837

    @allansmith3837

    11 ай бұрын

    Think that sums it up for me yes he was a ultra Nasionalist Germany is me and I am Germany

  • @dheerajpimoli9539

    @dheerajpimoli9539

    3 ай бұрын

    ​​@@em0_tion that definition is not based on fact. Yeah for a nationalist good of his own nation comes first but that doesn't mean it has to be bad for other. The same could be said about an individual also. A person will always put his interest first but that is not always bad for other.

  • @em0_tion

    @em0_tion

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@dheerajpimoli9539 Hence my 2nd comment, but since this is also the internet and 10 sites = 10 different definitions, I'll personally agree with you. Still not convinced about the title of this video. 🤔🤷‍♂

  • @haydenwalton2766
    @haydenwalton276611 ай бұрын

    could it be that this argument is being made with the sole purpose of defending the state of israel and their actions??

  • @theflaver

    @theflaver

    11 ай бұрын

    you're anti semitism is showing Hayden...

  • @Io-Io-Io
    @Io-Io-Io11 ай бұрын

    Of course you should read it, otherwise you don't know what you're talking about

  • @txdmsk

    @txdmsk

    11 ай бұрын

    Yeah. If kids these days read the book, maybe they would not scREEEEEm Hi.ler if you preferred your cheeseburger with bacon or something.

  • @fernandosegala3964
    @fernandosegala396411 ай бұрын

    Yes, he was. Or does "Über Alles" mean nothing to you?

  • @alongsleep

    @alongsleep

    11 ай бұрын

    Composed by Joseph Haydn in 1797. The verse originally meant that the Germans and their rulers have to overcome existing divisions and keep in mind the goal of a unified Germany.

  • @SkyrimCZtutorials

    @SkyrimCZtutorials

    11 ай бұрын

    Those words composed many years before AH was born mean something different. Do not study from Hollywood movies.

  • @fernandosegala3964

    @fernandosegala3964

    11 ай бұрын

    Sure, because words spoken by Haydn in the context of the German unification and words spoken by AH in the context of WW2 mean the exact same thing. Give me a break... If I buy a hoover and come home to say "this hoover sucks", what do I mean? Depends on whether it's broken, doesn't it? Thus, context is everything.

  • @franekspeak953
    @franekspeak95311 ай бұрын

    There is another term out there and it's 'PATRIOTISM', which is almost an equivalent. I just realised that in the US no one is calling themselves nationalists and almost everyone is claiming to be a patriot - is brilliant as there's absolutely no bad connotation to this word! There might be a slight meaning difference as patriotism implies the state while nationalism - a nation (which used to be interpreted as race during II WW). In the end the practical use is the same so why don't we switch to the more positive word?

  • @pennypothoneypot634mimmahappun
    @pennypothoneypot634mimmahappun11 ай бұрын

    To replace Nationalism I much rather relate to a Ü TURN or something similar description, other than Nationalism since it unfortunately is associated to GREEDY POWER

  • @paulrevere5197

    @paulrevere5197

    11 ай бұрын

    Internationalism is by far greedier than nationalism. The international communist don't want to just rule one nation, they want to rule all nations...

  • @peterwebb8732

    @peterwebb8732

    11 ай бұрын

    The “association” mostly exists in Leftist propaganda.

  • @Fenrir.Gleipnir
    @Fenrir.Gleipnir11 ай бұрын

    Of course he was