He tried to hide from public notoriety by joining the RAF. He burned a picture of him they had hung in the mess hall. He was trying to avoid the limelight, not self promoting AFAIK.

Probably the most significant omission of the film makers is the fact that while at Oxford university Lawrence was approached by MI6 around 1910. Lawrence spoke several middle eastern languages. As a result of this meeting in 1910-11 MI6 tasked Lawrence to map the region in preparation for war. Although an archaeologist his main role during his 2-3 years in the region prior to WW1 was to map the region in preparation for war. The archaeological dig was just a front. They also left out the fact that while at Versailles in 1919 for the signing of the treaty. He strongly advised all the British and French diplomats that if we didn’t withdraw from the region we’d be fighting wars for centuries. Winston Churchill was one of this number. We’re still suffering the consequences of ignoring Lawrence’s advice today.

In 1978 I knew a man in Wales who'd served in the Tank Regiment with Lawrance and though he they never talked, recognised who he was.

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Thank you! Enjoyed your review very much and will get my hands on Lawrence's book Seven Pillars. I still recall seeing the film when it first came out in an old theater in Toronto that had a huge screen. This movie was so artistically stunning to me at the time that I recall clearly being disappointed to read a newspaper article that revealed its inaccuracies. Still it spawned my interest in the Middle East that has fascinated me ever since.

Lawrence was based in the RAF camp at Drigh Road, Karachi, in 1927. It is now a major Air Force Base of the Pakistan Air Force. It is from Karachi that T.E. Lawrence sent back proof-read and edited copies of "Seven Pillars of Wisdom" and "Revolt in the Desert" to his friends in London, including Bernard Shaw and Robert Graves. It's a pity that there is very little information about the days he spent in Karachi as an ordinary aircraftman in RAF, despite being a Lieutenant Colonel at the end of World War 1.

Saw it opening week in Louisville in 63. Now that its been explained 60 yrs. later. I like it even better. Thanks...dob1945usaDOC...

While some poetic licence was taken, substantially the story is accurate, GReat Fil, great director and a brilliant Irish actor

Interesting. His motorcycle's name was spelled Brough Superior, but it is pronounced "Bruff" Superior. He was returning to his home, Cloud's Hill when he crashed.

@siypic

6 жыл бұрын

worth a fortune now...

Here's something the movie got right: the spectacular desert scenes were filmed in the Jordanian desert. My dad, a civilian officer, was stationed in Amman, Jordan, while the movie was filmed in Jordan, and we traveled to Aqaba too--only the real Aqaba isn't shown in the movie because it was too modern, so the film crew had to venture to a less developed area for the Aqaba sequence. But the desert scenes, while beyond the paved road we traveled on, were similar to what we saw in the Jordanian wilderness.

Do not look for reality in movies! This is my point.

Was 'Lawrence of Araba'. REALLY a 'Hollywood' movie ? I don't think so, it was more of a British production (or even an 'international' product). Of course, it needed some American known 'big' names (Anthony Quinn, Jose Ferrer, Arthur Kennedy) to attract more audiences. Also, even if I think that it is one of the best movies ever made (in spite of incredible locations difficulties), I know that it took many liberties with real facts. It's purpose being to offer a fascinating and unique movie experience. .

why do people continue to be amazed that things long ago cost numerically less than they do now? do they not understand inflation and the decreasing value of singular units of money?

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Good video - liked it Couple of minor errors Central Powers in WW1 not Axis - WW1 Abdul Hamid was not the last Sultan. There were two more after him. Cheers

ANOTHER BOOK BY LAWRENCE IS 'THE MINT' A NO HOLDS BARRED EXPLICIT ACCOUNT OF HIS R.A.F. EXPERIENCES. ALSO THE PLAY BY TERENCE RATTIGAN ''ROSS'.

Don't be so petty, Bill. I am a New Zealander but I know the (yawn!) "Lord of the Rings" snore-fest was overwhelmingly financed by American money. Ditto "Lawrence of Arabia" for all its British talent. So "Hollywood" is a perfectly valid term in all senses.

It's cinema, not history. The theme of, "Who Are You", as expressed by the motorcyclist on the other side of the Suez (David Lean's cameo), is the central driver.

Have to say, seven pillars is highly innacurate too... Lawrence was a bit of a self promoter, but still, a fascinating man

@billh5781

6 жыл бұрын

The Mint.

My, Oh my! The things I could take you to task on! But before I do, I have to be honest about myself. In Seven Pillars of Wisdom Lawrence writes (not a direct quote) Pray God that men do not prostitute themselves to an alien race in search of glory as he had. I saw LoA the Christmas it was released as a Senior in High School. I read and reread SPoW twice before graduation. In college I devoured every text on him, conceived a way to use him as a research topic in every course, and as Arabic was not open to female undergraduates, I undertook to teach myself Arabic. Ultimately I took Lawrence's hand drawn map with me, walking many of the streets and living in many of his named cities. I sold my youth in pursuit to the exotic he advised against. Middle East was an all consuming passion, but one which I, like Lawrence, received no return. To this day, watching LoA is the best use of 4 hours I can imagine. One of my professors was fond of saying: Often what happened is of less importance than what is thought to have happened. In more than 50 years I haven't forgotten LoA was a cinematic masterpiece, but I know for a fact my life began when I saw the film Lawrence of Arabia. So while you made many errors and omissions, not the least of were his contributions to the post war peace negotiations, it never really hurts to set the record straight.

This guy can't even get the pronunciation of Carchemish. He pronounced it Carmekish. Not long after this he mispronounces the title Sharif, in which the "A" is pronounced as aw, like, Aw shucks, and the I is pronounced as a long E making the second syllable sound like reef, the place where fish and corals live, but he pronounces it as Sheriff, just like the law enforcement officer.

@370530e

Жыл бұрын

“Sykes-Picotte”?

"What is it about HONEY that you love so much major Lawrence?" "Well... It's sweet"-T. E

For a very detailed review of the film v history I suggest you go to: www.telstudies.org/discussion/film_tv_radio/lofa_or_sid_1.shtml

This is a film for entertainment. It is NOT a documentary so why treat it like one. Give a guy a phone and he thinks he's Steven Spielberg.

This comparison says that this movie was a Hollywood blockbuster. Please note that it was directed by David Lean (British) and produced by Sam Spiegel through his British company Horizon Pictures. Most of the stars were also British... Bearing this in mind, how many of the other "facts" presented are incorrect????

@misonoresoconto

6 жыл бұрын

"Hollywood" is often used as a generic term for the entire motion picture industry.

@alfredneuman6488

6 жыл бұрын

Only by Americans who know no better. Ask an Indian where movies are made and they will say "Bollywood". "Lord of the Rings" is a true blockbuster classic of cinematic history from... wait for it.... New Zealand and there are many more examples from all around the world that I could name that produce internationally acclaimed movies which are NOT "Hollywood" movies.

@williamsnyder5616

6 жыл бұрын

Bill---The film wouldn't have been made without the participation of the international distributor, Columbia Pictures. Columbia supplied the budget for the movie and had first call on the film's casting. When the film had its world premiere before the Royal Family in London, the posters at the Odeon Theater said, "Columbia Pictures presents the Sam Spiegel-David Lean Production..." Columbia had also worked with Spiegel on "On the Waterfront" and Spiegel and Lean on "The Bridge on the River Kwai." This was common in relations between the U.S. and Britain. Lean did the same thing with Carlo Ponti when they went to MGM for funding for "Doctor Zhivago" three years later. Ditto for other studios like 20th Century-Fox, which funded and made "Sink the Bismarck" with a British cast and crew

@williamsnyder5616

6 жыл бұрын

I might add that Columbia's relations with different production companies in England led to great box office figures as well as great critical acclaim. Examples: "The Bridge on the River Kwai," "Lawrence of Arabia," "Born Free," "A Man For All Seasons," "To Sir, With Love," ""Oliver!," "Nicholas and Alexandra" and a "A Passage to India." All were made with Columbia money.

Central Powers not Axis Powers

It's annoying everyone speaks English in the film. Lawrence was an expert Arabic speaker.

Sterling Bridge , that is , sorry. Point the same.

Bizarre..."twist" (tell THAT ONE to someone emerging from seeing the...movie, hey): Lawrence's death...leading to--through a doctor-- a development of the motorcycle helmet? Feeling "obligated"--since I'd viewed the movie about Australia's Light Horse taking...Beersheba, and, felt "protective" of their own...reputation, perhaps--I did a Google upon their role at...Damascus, too? Seems they were told to...withdraw (having first-entered) in order that those "politics" of the efforts--requiring that it "to be seen to be liberated by the Hashemite army led by Feisal--become served, yes? (Not taking away anything from...either side, necessarily: while...preserving personal respects towards the...Light Hore, however, yes?) Spin...AROUND some motorcyclist's heads, really, however...? (Not the only thing seeming somewhat..."bizarre"--as far as..."history" goes, likely, hey?)

R.I.P

Let us not get caught up on movies and reality! Braveheart portrayed the epic battle of Falkirk Bridge , yet NO BRIDGE!!! Leave it alone and enjoy the action , mates.

Unfortunately.."based" on the concept of a "true story" means it aint, actually the movie is pretty close to reality with exceptions of poetic licence, the incidence of THIS particular rant is less real than the facts of the movie.

Tripe.

Yet again, little more than an historical #PAWN

Get on with it man... Nearly 3 minutes before you actually start talking about the film!

Noel Coward said after watching the film that Peter O'Toole was so "pretty" it should have been called "Florence of Arabia".