History Up Close with the SP-5B Marlin
History Up Close series with LCDR Robert “Kim” Sheldon, USN (Ret.) as he spotlights the Museum's SP-5B Marlin
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Served on the seaplane tender USS Currituck AV-7 in '65/'66 at North Island and throughly enjoyed watching these beautiful planes land, take off, and being hoisted onto our rear maintenance deck. I was only aboard for 6 months which included a cruise down the Baja Peninsula to La Paz, I believe it was decommissioned in '67...Wonderful memory.
On the 3350 turbo-compound engine, the power recovery turbines were connected to the crankshaft of the engine for more power up to about 450 additional Hp. It did have an internal supercharger as well.
Went by that museum every day in the late 70's on my way to VT10. Great museum and great base to be stationed at.🛩️
My Dad flew the P5 in VP 46, VP45 in Bermuda and later was skipper of VP50 as they transitioned to the P3. He had sea stories for sure and loved every second of the experience.
My father was an Aviation Machinist Mate 2nd Class [AMM2c (T)] on a PBM-3S Mariner Aircraft in Patrol Bombing Squadron 213 during World War II. From reading his Navy flight log I believe he flew out of Pensacola at times. After the navy he worked for Glenn L. Martin company in Baltimore. Having worked on everything from the C-124 to the C-5A Galaxy he retired as a civilian aircraft mechanic from Dover Air Force Base in the 1970s. May God Bless him and the crews that flew to safeguard freedom.
Great video. Resurrected some old memories for me. I enlisted in 1958 and was assigned to VP 42 as an airframes mechanic, AMS 2, at Sangley Point, Philippines, and rotating to San Diego with VP 50 and VP 48. VP 42 received the last P5M 2 from Martin Aircraft, RB 5534, in 1961, which the skipper immediately took as one boat. When I was being discharged in 1962, P2V’s were already starting to replace the P5’s. Because the plane was so big and required a large crew, I actually got some flight time as an observer and backup mechanic. Too bad the video didn’t show the inside.
I wish they had showed us more of the aircraft. Would really like to see the inside too
@Burningwithecstasy
2 жыл бұрын
Kermit Weeks has a video touring the Martin Mars nose to tail if you haven't seen it yet.
My father, a retired ASW aviator, and I toured the museum many years ago when the SP-5B was still outdoors. He originally trained on the SP--5B but they were phased out toward the end of his orientation. My father went on the fly the P-2 and P-3. I think the SP-5B was his favorite to fly though. Fantastic museum. Great presentation on the plane.
This aircraft was sitting on the ramp at North Island in 1972 so we got to look at it. Good to see a VP-40 aircraft preserved !
10/12/2021 In 1968 I was serving in the Navy, at North Island Naval Air Station, in VS -41. This very aircraft was there and spent a lot of time being made air worthy with parts largely scavenged from the P-5 bone yard at North Island. The old "VP" hangers still exist there. I actually watched this aircraft take off on its trip to the east coast . The story goes that this aircraft flew non-stop to the east coast. We heard that it landed on the Potomac River and was taken to the Smithsonian directly, so much for scuttlebutt. So with this aircraft and the OV-10 Bronco 155472, there at the museum, I have a special personal attachment. I actually worked on OV-10 155472 when Val-4 was in its pre commissioning training at VS-41.
Really enjoying this. My dad flew this plane when he served in the Navy. I was just a tyke then.
That is one great museum and I'm glad I came up from Australia to see it. A highlight.
What a fascinating program! I thank everything for their knowledge and love of these planes and their history. may God bless you and may your work always continue.
The PBM5 Marlin shown at about the 7 min. mark of the video is SE-1, That was my Dad's plane he flew as commander of VP892 at the start of the Korean war. The squadron was from Sand Point NAS, Seattle WA. The squadron was stationed out of Iwakuni Japan, and used the AV12 Pine Island as their sea plane tender. They were the first Naval Reserve patrol squadron sent to Korea. My brother and I saw him take off from Coronado enroute to Hawaii. VP892 changed designation eventually becoming VP50 flying P-3 Orions out of Moffat field CA.
As an AEAN in-training at NAS North Island in Jan '66, was assigned to a P5 squadron (I don't remember which) for further Class B training. When not in class had to scrape the bilges of a P5 Martin and also helped load mines into same -- all the while learning (as a budding electrician) on how to electrically maintain this massive beast and it's carbon arc searchlight. Unknown to me, this Martin variant was then being phased out, and following class completion March '66, was reassigned to a land based P2V anti-sub outfit (Patron 2, or VP-2) then operating out of MCAS Iwakuni, Japan, and flying the P2-V Neptune. This bird, of course, would soon be replaced by the P3 Orion, and so it went.
Cool video. I was a CH-46 hydraulics mech during my enlisted days in the Marine Corps.
Very interesting video! Would be interesting to see the interior too at some point. Some of the gear that was in the P-5, I operated in the SH-2F!
Thank you for this most welcome discussion of one of my very favorite subjects. My grandfather was a production foreman at Glenn L. Martin Aircraft during the production of the Marlin. My father also worked at Martin (as an air traffic controller at Martin's airport) at the same time and used to speak of how he loved to see the Marlins (and other aircraft) at Strawberry Point. What a fantastic aircraft!
my dad was aviation machinists mate, and flight engineer on Blimps and PBY Catalina during WW2, he served 1941-1978.
What a great presentation This man is a human encyclopedia
I wish there was a site like this for the little known surface ships of the USN. Specifically, the wooden hull minesweepers. 101 built for US and various other countries but only one remains stateside. It is in the process of being turned into a museum ship. Presently, in Stockton, CA,
Excellent history lecture. Well done!🇺🇸
Going to Navy boot camp, NTC San Diego, (1962) there was at least one of these in the harbor. I watched it take off and land.
Pity the Navy didn't keep an example of the Seamster. Kind of like the USAF not keeping an example of the XB-49 the flying wing I believe.
Great job Kim, but I'm dying to see the inside. Just a peek!
This is my favorite Sea plane ... then is the Shinmeiwa US1 Japanese rescue sea plane another wonderful video.
These planes are so beautiful. Flying boats, especially these amphibian flying boats make SO much logical sense and for ASW & over-water operation for safety and other reasons. It’s a testament to the reliability of modern jet engines that this isn’t THE form factor for all airliners. The walkthrough this expert & veteran gave us is really impressive. I had no idea all the bells & whistles the Marlin had. Hydroplane step, JATO, reversible pitch engines, hard points, MAD sensor. Boat-hull, wings, and wheels... was there anything this thing could not do?
@pablomousten5477
3 жыл бұрын
Eagerly awaiting Part 2 showing the inside of the aircraft explaining each crew position incluiding the cockpit in equal detail
I have had my hands on that plane when it was at Pax River, and preserved right next to it was a Convair F2Y Sea Dart JET flying boat.
A lend lease PBY also located the Bismark after she evaded the entire British fleet before the U.S. entered the war in December of 1941.
awesome video, just 1 little correction. The snorkel wasn't a german invention but a dutch invention. Regards , keep safe, Paul.
A superb presentation. Thank you.
No mention of the Large Jet Powered Sea Plane that the Navy developed but did not use.
Great presentation....one small correction......the power recovery turbines on the Wright 3350 were actually geared to the crankshaft contributing an additional 300 HP each to the engines power output.
@rmactvc
3 жыл бұрын
I caught that too.
@tgmccoy1556
3 жыл бұрын
Spent About nine years as a copilot on DC-7 Airtankers The 3350 had it's quirks but it was the pinnacle of Radial Engine development.
God bless You Sir great informative cideo
By the time I was old enough to join the Navy (at 17), the original configuration of the P-3A was changed to the TAC/NAV MOD. I did get to fly in an unmodified P-3A for a few years later in my career (we essentially used it as a TP-3.) I tried playing with the AQA-4 Jezebel system, but since we had no replacement gram paper for it, we weren't really able to test it out with some buoys. Obviously, that meant we couldn't "bang" Julie, either. (Yes, that was the terminology!) The Non-Acoustic Sensor station was virtually unchanged through the P-3A/B series, and the ESM and MAD systems were the same as they were back when the SP-5Bs were flying.
@jmarrs7239
Ай бұрын
Did you have 'sniffer', ASQ8??? Mad, Julie Jez, APS80 radar, upper and lower ssb, uhf and vhf. I was 1st tech on Woodpecker 9, VP49 from '61-'63. Got about 1800 hours in 30 months. Gitmo in '62 in Cuban Crisis, Ditched about 60 east of Gitmo when we lost #1. Emergency Salvo and bomb bays doors did now close! Lost starboard hydroflap landing so could not steer. Destroyer, US Long towed us back, 14 hours. Incredible duty!! Had to defend BDA, worked out well! Met my wife there (vacationing from New Haven), of 60 years!
A RAF Coastal Command PBY Catalina Was Also Responsible For Relocating The German Battleship BISMARCK After The British Fleet Lost Track!!
@drinksnapple8997
3 жыл бұрын
...at the time of the re-sighting of the BISMARCK, the pilot at the controls of the PBY was ENS Leonard B. "Tuck" Smith, USN.
my dad flew this plane in VP 50 1960 - 1963. working and converting 8mm tape to digital format...
1 mistake I noticed when this gentleman was talking about the Catalina, you showed a picture of a Shorts Sunderland, not a Catalina. The Catalina only had two engines. Ironically, as well, it was a Catalina flying with RAF coastal command to re-acquire the Bismarck and her escorts, just thought I’d add that.
He forgot to mention the Navigator as a Crewmember. We'd be lost without him.
@jimtownsend7899
3 жыл бұрын
The Naviguesser! The one guy on board that had upward mobility, because if he did a good job, he could eventually become a TACCO.
@thomasmcewen5493
3 жыл бұрын
The Lady Be Good had a Navigator too.
@almartinez4886
3 жыл бұрын
He didn't mention the radioman either. I was one of them served in VP-46 Grey Knights
@waynefitzer4216
Жыл бұрын
@@almartinez4886 I crewed the Comm/Panel position while serving in VP-48. 1962 till my discharge in 1965
@almartinez4886
Жыл бұрын
@@waynefitzer4216 thanks for the reply, Wayne. I was AT radioman on several crews. Transpaced with VP-46 to Sangley in 1958. Was there during the 2nd Taiwan Crisis. Lots of stories to tell. Actually, writing my life story which includes many of my adventures with the P5M.
Great presentation but would have loved to see the inside of it. I know that I have been onboard one at at one of the base open houses when they were stationed here at Naval Operations Base, Bermuda in the early 60s. They were quite the sight as they went over my school on approach to landing. One of them crashed on takeoff unfortunately killing all onboard. Engine failure. The base has been long closed but the ramps are still there.
@jmarrs7239
Ай бұрын
I was there from mid '61 to late '63, No crashes while I was there but VP45 did lose a plane and crew about 300 miles east of BDA at night! Two survived that. Working a Russian trawler at night and lost horizon at low altitude, dipped a wing!
In the late 1960s I remember seeing a large number of dozens of Marlins lined up at NAS Coronado being you could see them being scrapped from the San Diego side of the Bay first all of the engines were removed and what was left was scrapped. So apparently the entire fleet was not scrapped in Japan as indicated on the video.
Unfortunately, he got the turbo-compounding incorrect. What he described, the exhaust gasses powering a turbine which powers a compressor is a turbosuper system The turbo-compound system used exhaust gas to turn a turbine which through a system of gears and a fluid coupling, added power directly to the crankshaft. Otherwise, very informative video.
This could have been much better. Odd that both the Army and Navy worked hard to destroy Martin aircraft. Army B-26 Navy P5M and P6M. The Germans used the snorkel much earlier than the Type XXI. P.S. my father build PBMs and P5Ms and his brother worked on the Mars.
Question about the Naval Aviation Museum; do they have a North American AJ, AJ-2 or AJ-2P in their display? My Father was a Division Chief for VAP-61. He retired out of VFP-63 in 1963.
Great video! This is one of favorite flying boats. It’s the size of a 737-300. I would have loved to have seen some niche airline carrier picking up a few and using them in passenger service. Just curious as to how this would have looked.
so nice video
Wasn't there a 4 engine amphibious plane? Coronado? Are there any left?
@ajlnfo6358
3 жыл бұрын
Consolidated PB2Y Coronado, a large flying boat. Sadly by the time the PB2Y was added to the Naval Aviation Museum collection, the beaching-gear had been lost. (When I last saw it, it was 'blocks'.) A large A/C; but my SP-5B had about 2 feet more wingspan & was 6-8,000 pounds heaver. v/r AJL
At 21:57 you make a common mistake by confusing Operation Market Garden (WWII ETO) with Operation Market Time (Vietnam War) but considering how much knowledge and history is crammed in your head you can hardly be blamed!
👍👍always 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸!!!
Operation Market Time. Not garden.
@COIcultist
3 жыл бұрын
They probably weren't trying to seize a Dutch bridge at that time.
@oceanhome2023
3 жыл бұрын
A Bridge TOO Far !!
@SPak-rt2gb
3 жыл бұрын
Has anybody seen the bridge? Where's that confounded bridge
Is that a Dolphin in the background?
Not even a mention of Martin Mars: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_JRM_Mars
These are great videos but having that banner take up the bottom third of the screen is ridiculous
I think we should have a fleet of seaplanes. Nothing in the fleet today can match the range.
@ericbrammer2245
3 жыл бұрын
YES! And, as such, we'd have 'Water Bombers' to deal with Forest Fires!!!
If u want to keep it interesting, Dont focus on the host, Show to plane more, as the host speaks. Make sense?
17:00 the snorkel story. Nice but it’s a Dutch invention used in ww 1 at their subs .. so not new at all for the Germans
No surprise we learned better performance from the Germans....8:33
SHOW the aircraft....this is not radio!
Every thumbs down gets a middle finger up!
BZ
Near focus narration mother host it's not about the word you say, use your camera As he speaks, the camera man must not stand still
Too many “uhhh’s”, must be related to Psaki.
Would be nice to see the air craft BUT they have closed the Museum to American citizens . I a Vietnam veteran am consider to big of a threat, but airman from Muslim country’s that are at the base can. Please text the air museum and tell them how they are doing what the terrorist want by denying AMERICANS the right to view there history
@mikebeard8505
3 жыл бұрын
Bowhunter 1955 what?
@mikebeard8505
3 жыл бұрын
Nope! I called the museum and the base is closed to those without DoD credentials.....you have confirmation bias...looking for evidence of poorly treated veterans and well treated Muslims....”the nasty museum is doing the terrorists work”....hogwash
@mikebeard8505
3 жыл бұрын
Hogwash
@mikebeard8505
3 жыл бұрын
More of the story....the museum and the base have established a means of putting those with DoD credentials in touch with regular visitors to allow them to enjoy the museum and be escorted by an authorized person. Poor Bowhunter and those that liked his comment are contributing to the problem we face today. When you only talk to those you agree with, your vision of reality becomes distorted. “Vets disrespected, institution likes Muslims more” makes no sense. It took a little work to find out that the base and museum plus vets and active duty folks are going out of their way to be sure regular folks can continue to enjoy the museum and our history. Foreign nationals with DoD credentials are there to learn to fly and maintain the hardware they are buying from us..... I don’t expect to hear patriotic defense industry workers complaining about that. We need to work a little harder to learn the truth when someone’s statement seems a little too outrageous. It makes you wonder if it is outrage or the truth some people are pursuing.
old guys wearing too-tight uniforms
@lifuranph.d.9440
3 жыл бұрын
-- Just wait.
@oceanhome2023
3 жыл бұрын
Not as bad as old Brits in Bermuda shorts Lol!!
Great AUDIO, learned much of history & use. Horrible VIDEO. 10-15 seconds of speaker every couple minutes is sufficient. You barely showed the outside of the plane, completely omitted even sketches of the interior, and when describing things, the angles were poor or off camera. I'd demand a reshoot.
Hey to much talking ….. show the bird. Make it more interesting all the technical stuff is really boring. Show the bird not just a piece of it
BZ