Got to have a carcano blow a primer in my face today! Very fun. And yes the gas shield and port work! It was cool to see the gas split away from your first hand! The only bit of Gass that still hit me came from the cocking piece hole but otherwise it deflected around 90 percent.

I have a Model 1941 and I quite like it, I figure the Carcano series of weapons to be rather underrated. Great video, thanks!

@Candrsenal

8 жыл бұрын

Sweet

Hilarious how out of all my bolt action rifles, my Carcano TS (the cheapest one I got) is my favorite rifle to shoot

The carcano is like sand, coarse, rough and gets everywhere

FYI My father, who was in the Italian Army during WWI told me that when using the bolt on the carcano you slapped it up, pulled it back with an open hand and pushed it back with the open hand and slapped it down, again with the open hand. Since he fought through the entire war and watching him shoot a carcano that I purchased for him in the 1980s his method worked quite well.

@neutronalchemist3241

7 жыл бұрын

That's exactly the method explained in the manual. "Operate the bolt energically with the palm of your hand".

@baker90338

5 жыл бұрын

Neutron Alchemist it seems they chose something that spoke their language

@116PANZERLIED

5 жыл бұрын

my Great great grandfather would say the same thing haha. He said just like our hands when we talk, all energetic

@artu44

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, it is. But the roughly made action dont allow quick loading. Try the same way with the M1893 dutch mannlicher rifle and you'll be able to fire five shots in a single burst.

@sirboomsalot4902

4 жыл бұрын

He was still shooting in the 1980s? He must have been a trooper. Well, Erwin Rommel had high respect for Italian soldiers (that was in WW2, but still), so I’m not surprised

That weight is astonishing for such a long gun. Italy had one of the lightest rifles and the lightest ammo for it in the whole war. That’s a plus.

"They needed something else..." Like someone to beat some common sense into Cadorna.

@evandaire1449

8 жыл бұрын

With a bayonet preferably. Or maybe a bag of primed hand grenades.

@WastelandSeven

7 жыл бұрын

I must say I like how you think Evan Daire.

Good

who else is watching this in 2021 where 6.5 carcano ammo is rarer than an honest politician?

Keep it up

Yes! someone who used the term "point blank range" correctly!

Not quite Back and to the left, but we are getting their.

I have missed the simplicity of your channel. I re-subscribed

That Torino was Gran

Underrated rifle and channel.

So I first watched this video a couple of weeks ago. Today I go to the gun show and what do I find? An 1891 Carcano dated 1895. The rifle is complete and in surprisingly good shape. So of course I brought it home and I can't wait to try it out, but first I'll need a stripper clip.... I'm gonna blame this on you Othais and Mae, the last thing I needed was another bolt action rifle.

@Candrsenal

8 жыл бұрын

Sorry. Send it to us and you won't have to worry any more.

@charlesschenkbecher

8 жыл бұрын

That is very kind of you, I'll have to get back to you on that.... On another note, thanks for all the hard work, I really enjoy the videos!

As a bird, i want to thank mae for adding content for my demographic. Its good to show the humans a different point of view. Weet weet

Interesting note....many of these went to Finland.

Awesome video

@Candrsenal

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@siestatime4638

7 жыл бұрын

LOL!

I have a question. Both Carcano rifles and Mosin-Nagant rifles were adequate service rifles. Neither was outstanding but both were adequate. Somehow, Mosin-Nagant rifles come to be highly regarded post-war while Carcanos were relegated to the junk tier with Arisakas. Honestly, Nagants are not better than Carcanos. Why do so called experts think they were? Another great video.

@5000rgb

5 жыл бұрын

I've also heard that the Arisaka was a good rifle. Maybe because Mosins are widely available and cheap people want to think they've got something good, I've never seen anything that makes me think they are much more than a weak design built with questionable manufacturing. According to the Warren Commission the Carcano is the fastest firing, most accurate rifle ever made.

@brainyskeletonofdoom7824

5 жыл бұрын

You have to consider that after ww2 a lot of americans were using war-battered Carcanos with either italian late wartime made ammos (sometimes not of the best quality) or just wrong bullets made by other companies

@paulwillard5924

3 жыл бұрын

Mosin rifles are converted Russian fence posts.....🤣

I had a Carcano 91/38 for a while. Sweet-shooting rifle, but it had terrible accuracy. I wish I had kept it, because I didn't learn until many years later about the ammunition needs and I'd be willing to bet that the Spitzer bullets I was feeding it were the problem, not the rifle.

I have binged this series for the past few weeks, and actually just got a carcano TS from 1916. I can now appreciate it properly having watched this video. Thank you guys!

Thank's for the Report. The 1891 is a great old Rifle. Greeting's from Germany

"There's a whole lot of history we're gonna cover when we get out of WW1 on this channel" At this point you've been discussing WW1 firearms for longer than even WW2 lasted

I love the X-ray views of the actions; you're certainly right about the one spring action; engineers call this "elegance"; it's said to be an elegant solution. Very nice, indeed.

Have Two My Father Was In War 1

May is beautiful and awesome!!

The bad reputation comes from the mistake using the wrong bullet diameter in reloading the 6.5carcano uses 268. While reloaders were using 263s or 264 s and ending up with crappy ballistics the 4 to5 mm difference makes a world of difference! Use the proper bullets and it's a decent rifle.

@DaveP326

2 жыл бұрын

You would think that with the avalanche of Carcanos coming onto the country recently, that one of the ammo companies would offer a 6.5 X 52mm loading with a .268 bullet-or is that just wishful thinking...

@Tunkkis

Жыл бұрын

4 or 5 what now? Because those certainly aren't millimeters. 0,004 inch translates to right about 0,10 mm.

@bullhorn143

Жыл бұрын

Steinel Ammo makes a cartridge with the right diameter.

@kituki3965

9 ай бұрын

​@@bullhorn143exactly

I SO love going back and seeing these early videos. I came to C&Rsenal kind of late, and this content was just out there, waiting for me. Great presentation, video, and content, even early on. Love you folks!

@C&Rsenal I've said it before and I say it again . I really appreciate all of the work and efforts from all of you. I have received quite the education . I soak of this history like a sponge and am absolutely fascinated to see the progress and efforts of men and women. Some brilliant , some dense, but all trying . Look where we are now. Thank you . Thank you very much.

.264 bullet in carcano are usually undersized. Your info on the ammo state .261 bullet that would be innacurate

The carcano model 91 and 91/41 was the rifle my grand father and my father fought in WWI and WWII. I want to thank for the historical accuracy the rifle was described in this presentation. Too many times I have heard superficial and wrong comments on it. Congratulations.

@fuzzydunlop7928

6 жыл бұрын

The 91/41 was such an underrated rifle. Especially the carbine variants.

@jedicomedy

5 жыл бұрын

Much respect to your grandfather and father. O la vittoria O tutti accoppitati! Giù con gli Austriacci!

Anybody else wish the 7.35 cartridge caught on? The M38 in 7.35 is one of my most favored historical firearms.

@davidr2975

2 жыл бұрын

I have a m38 short rifle in 7.35, very accurate, if only we chambered our m14, make it in 7.35, and make it smaller and shorter, just a though.

The impression I'm getting from this is that the Carcano is 'good enough' in every respect except fit and finish, just like the Mosin was in WW2 (but less complex and easier to manufacture). It was the right rifle in the right place at the right time and in the right circumstances (at least in WW1).

@neutronalchemist3241

8 жыл бұрын

Actually, in WWI conditions, rough surfaces were a good thing. If your rifle needs smooth surfaces to function properly, mud will stuck it. It's what happened, IE, to the Ross Rifle. It was very accurate, very well machined. Good for snipers, that shoot very few rounds, and took good care of their rifles. But, for ordinary grunts in the trenches, few rounds, and the rifle needed a hammer to open the action. If the surfaces are rough, if the couplings are loose, dirt has somewere to go instead of locking the action.

@Scandibilly

8 жыл бұрын

To be fair, the Ross also had a comb of locking lugs that really were the problem. I find Mausers (even the Turkish Mausers) and Springfields from WWI very smooth compared with the Carcano, and both were known for reliability.

@neutronalchemist3241

8 жыл бұрын

***** The Springfield not really. altough better than the Ross, It was another weapon more suited for snipers than for ordinary infantry. It had a well known history of the action becoming very hard in trench warfare. Altough having a similar action (being the Springfield a Masuser copy) the Mauser was usually more loosely assembled, and the wartime mausers were really not better finished than the Carcano (the German Mausers' quality varies more wildly than that of the Carcano. The Carcanos have, more or less, all the same level of finishing. The peacetime builded Mausers are better finished than that, the wartime builded, even worse).

@neuzdost1939

Жыл бұрын

Fun fact: America is the very only nation to hate Mosin rifle Fun fact 2: It's just because of the politics

@raxit1337

3 ай бұрын

@@neuzdost1939 That's not very nuanced. America produced Mosins for Russia during the first world war, they were not enemies. Additionally, many countries which actually used them identified flaws with the design. This channel has a video about the Mosin where they explain the mechanical issues with it. It's a fascinating watch.

I have a 41 and did have some feed problems, but other than that I have to agree the rifle is good.

@Candrsenal

8 жыл бұрын

I swear it's hit or miss on those.

Beautiful

I love how optimistic WWI sights are. How many people in on earth could really hit what they're shooting at reliably with iron sights at 2000 meters?

@maewinchester2030

7 жыл бұрын

I know I can't right now.

@SPAZTICCYTOPLASM

7 жыл бұрын

Volley fire friend. You and your friends basically bombard the enemy with 30 or so caliber pieces of lead. Not very effective, and more of a holdover, but still a thing. Most rifles weren't even actually tested all the way to 2000 yards or meters. Most saw at most 1000. And actually with some luck, and admittedly a 1ft target at least, and a perfect day, and maybe some physical advantages. Most old guns will reach out mostly to that range and usually pelt your target.

@snowflakemelter1172

5 жыл бұрын

They were used for volley fire by groups of soldiers all firing to create a zone of impact, not individual targets.

@randonwilston

4 жыл бұрын

Actually my 1917 Mosin is sub 1MOA and I can hit a pie plate at 2000 arshins would hit further but the sight doesn’t go any higher. Jk people that say their (insert common 100+ year old infantry weapon) is sub 1 MOA I roll my eyes

@Shadow0fd3ath24

4 жыл бұрын

They didnt. Nor did anyone expect them to very often BUT in 1874 Springfield tested the Trapdoor 1873 and were able to score 8 out of 10 hits on an 8ft by 6ft rectangle at 2400yds. Even at that distance the round had just enough energy to still penetrated 3 pine boards that were 1 inch thick(1 was enough to kill to the armys mind and data)

This is SUCH a good episode. Well done!

Good job mate, you made an accurate historical research. Thank you so much from Italy.

It's Càrcano. accented on the FIRST A, not on the second! Lombardy also is accented on the first O.

This is impressively thorough.

@Candrsenal

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Thank you for your contribution to history of Carcano modello 91

My new favorite arms channel! Excellent job! Thank you!

@Candrsenal

8 жыл бұрын

Nice

@742Brian

7 жыл бұрын

David Valdez you should also check out Forgotten Weapons by Ian McCallum I believe his last name is

So with reference between the no. 1 trials rifle and the no.2 trials rifle, it is quite evident that the entirety of rifle no1 minus the mauser action was adopted and fitted to it was a further adaptation of rifle no2s action. The recoil bolt and method of securing the top handguard of rifle no1 along with all the other features is essentially identical to the earliest patterns of m1891 rifles that where produced. A common misconception of the 1891 fucile is that it has looked basically the same since its first inception which is incorrect. The idea that rifle no1 was adopted is only partially correct, as in fact most of it was. Its just that the mauser action was obviously dropped.

While certainly not the best among bolt-actions, in fact I'd place them in the bottom tier, I'd still rather have a Carcano than a Lebel.

thank you for the video it helped me put my caremona 1942xx back together same bolt action

I've heard that Carcanos that still have their original matching bolts are quite a bit smoother since the ejector groove on the bolt body is properly polished for the specific rifle's ejector. Problem is that apparently very, very few Carcanos still do have their original bolts today since the Italians made such an effort to be as thrifty as possible with rifle parts, mixing and matching whenever they could. Regardless, my 1917 Terni is a great shooter despite being made to lower wartime standards and I've never had any issues with it.

@Candrsenal

8 жыл бұрын

It may be but it is hard to know since only very few were ever serialized

@CATech1138

6 ай бұрын

i wonder what some emory paste and about a hundred cycles would do to smooth the strokes

Full of data, awesome, great work, Thanks

@Candrsenal

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

"I'm Othias, and THIS is a bowl of spaghetti"- Othias. Probably.

I know this is heresy; but I think this is a better engineered bolt action than the Mauser. The grittiness is easily fixed by some hand work; polishing the working surfaces and using appropriate lubricants makes an amazing difference.

I like this gun a lot aesthetically.

@Candrsenal

8 жыл бұрын

They are pretty neat looking

Excellent video

excellent job!

@Candrsenal

8 жыл бұрын

Thank

I love my carcanos. I acquired many clips and have been able to bend them back into shape after being stepped on etc.

Ordered one today such an interesting piece of hardware, xan't wait to put my hands on it thabks for the great vidéo

I would love to see a full review and firing demonstration of a Winchester 1895 Lee Navy. For some reason the lines of the Carcano brough it back to mind.

When I bought my Carcano, it was my first gun that I had ever bought and when I saw it at the gun show that I was at, I just knew that I had to buy it (I just wish I had known about how much the ammo cost). When I bought it I had no idea about the gun but then I found your channel and that and Ian over at Forgotten Weapons helped me figure out what I had and for that I am eternally greatful. Thank you and keep up the good work.

@dutchplanderlinde4845

4 жыл бұрын

I saw an M1891 Carcano at a gun show, I kinda wish I bought it, but a lot of old rifles there were in bad condition. It was less than 200 dollars, and all the Mosin Nagants there were 500 dollars and also in bad condition.

Just brought one of these and found this channel looking at reveiws....subscribed Love these old guns

Cool.

Good, got a Beretta Carbine on the way and had to watch this again. Great resource!!

Excellent! Thank You for Posting : )

24:11 "just make sure to push it all the way in" heheheheeeeeeeh

great job

@Candrsenal

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

good stuff

Why no hammer fired bolt actions?

@Candrsenal

7 жыл бұрын

needlessly complicated and subject to dirt/jamming.

@lockesnode1477

7 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't a hammer fired mechanism be simpler to a cock on open mechanism, like In the G98?

Lee Navy please!I know it's not used during ww1, but, PLEASE!

@Candrsenal

8 жыл бұрын

I mean, after we get through WWI in the next two years or so sure

@wangl601

8 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

I love yalls content! I watch them all multiple times. I love guns and I have learned so much more because of you guys. I really appreciate what you do.

Carcano: Goes bang, shoots straight, easy to use, and it doesn't break or malfunction unless you do something stupid. Everything you need out of a military rifle of the period and nothing you don't (especially manufacturing complexity or cost). Not the nicest guns in the world, but you don't _need_ nice on a battlefield; you need reliable, durable, accurate (by standards of the time), and soldier-proof. Most importantly, you need the rifle to actually be there because it could be made in large numbers quickly and on the cheap. Carcano does all of that. No show, just go.

@faithinchrist9386

3 жыл бұрын

Where to get 6.5 - .268 Ammo?

This brand name rifle was used by Lee Harvey Oswald to shot present Kennedy in November 23, 1963 in Dallas, Texas. It was purchased on magazine as a surplus for about $22.00 back then.

Really interesting video

@Mildcat743

7 жыл бұрын

David Carcano I see your last name, sir

If you stretch the logic enough, you could say this gun had some part in killing the king. The fancy new rifles may have contributed to the sheer amount of deaths in the massacre which led quite directly to Bresci's assassination of Umberto. Now, the king could have probably saved himself by not openly congratulating and giving a medal to Beccaris, but I suppose that's a whole other thing.

The 1891 was one of my early acquisitions in the 70s for $26 in great shape, i found a bayo w/scabard in a surplus store for $2.50 there was a box full, i shoulda got more. I was shooting ww2 ammo back then & a shell ruptered down into the extracter groove (their almost like old balloon head shells) it put 25 pcs. Of brass micro splinters in my eye & a lot more in my cheek & forhead. Ive been using moderen brass since.

That explanation about the effect of a 'flat shooter' calibre on point blank range was excellent. Thanks!

@Candrsenal

7 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear!

Rip Austro-Hungarians

When Othais mentions "malacore jacketed ammo" I think he means melchior, pronounced "mell-key-or," (at least the name is), a silver colored copper-nickel alloy. It took me a while to suss that out.

@Candrsenal

2 жыл бұрын

maillechort

@marcusbrooks2118

2 жыл бұрын

@@Candrsenal Oops. I quit when I found the old form. It seems maillechort isn’t pronounced that way either, but it’s not English.

Multi-purpose parts in any mechanism always amaze me

You know, I love all your videos. I've learned a ton. However, one day my kids were watching Muppet Family Christmas while I was watching this and now I can't unhear Kermit the Frog...

C&Rsenal has a video on the Carcano M91. My life is now complete. I love my M91, by the way :)

@Candrsenal

8 жыл бұрын

Nice

Another great video! learned a lot and thank you for the time and work put into it.

@Candrsenal

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

8:46 Note: Do NOT search Google Images for "degloved". You have been warned.

@Candrsenal

8 жыл бұрын

Why would you do that?

@lazaglider

8 жыл бұрын

+C&Rsenal Skin is overrated.

@Masada1911

8 жыл бұрын

I never was good at following advice....

@ballsymove93

8 жыл бұрын

I had to, you get what you pay for is all im saying

@TheProdigy87

8 жыл бұрын

I have no regrets!

I have been waiting for this episode for a while. I own two carcanos myself, an 1891 model and a sporterized 91/28 model. The 1891 was made by Terni in 1918 and the 91/28 was made by Brescia in 1934. The 91/28 has a cut down stock and a side mounted scope (I only paid 65 dollars for it). I haven't shot either of them for a while, but after watching this I am definitely catching Carcano fever again.

@Candrsenal

8 жыл бұрын

Glad you were invested in this one.

Varese gang 💪🏻

Someone get this man a horde of minions and a beer.

@Candrsenal

8 жыл бұрын

Not those weird tic-tacs, they creep me out.

@bigghoss762

8 жыл бұрын

We'll put beards and hats on 'em.

Two comments… 1) The music you selected when the pretty lady was shooting the long ’91 could not have been more appropriated. It was “La Leggenda del Piave” or the legend of the river Piave, the place that witnessed some of the bloodiest fights of WW1between Italians and the Huns. That river is considered sacred for the true Italian. Thank you for inserting such an appropriate piece of music (needles to say, I am Italian, born, raised and educated.) 2) I have a batter method to de-cock all the Carcano rifles based on the ’91 model (I have two long carbines converted into hunting rifles and 3 “Carabinieri” models with under-folding bayonet all in 6.5mm) - As a round is chambered and the bolt is returned to the down position, the only thing needed to de-cock the gun is to lift the bolt and then push it back down as you keep the trigger depressed! Try it. For your information, with hand-loads I can get a 5-shot group of less than 3 inches at 100 meters, consistently! By the way, good job; I am enjoying your videos. I can’t wait for episode 2 of the old Carcano. Don’t forget my beloved under-fold bayonet carbine. One of the 3 I own was manufactured by Beretta in 1942. It is in immaculate conditions and appears to have been fired very little if at all. I love these little carbines! Nothing fancy, just nice, dependable workhorses! I wish I could find more of the 6-rounds empty clips. I am down to 6. Any suggestion of where to find them?

@Candrsenal

8 жыл бұрын

Padi 5Star I believe it but I don't really decock the guns. Each stroke of a spring forward or back wears more than sitting compressed

@padi5star

8 жыл бұрын

Just for the record... I was referring to your comment about the convoluted procedure to de=cock the M-91 once a round is chambered. Simply lift the bolt up, this will de-cock the firing pin, now keep the trigger pulled and lower the bolt. you will have a 91 with a round chambered but the firing pin de-cocked! That's all.

@Candrsenal

8 жыл бұрын

Padi 5Star We were talking about re-cocking. I never mentioned de-cocking on a live round and I wouldn't really recommend it...

Very nice episode guys ^^ And, as an italian, I really appreciated Othias effort on the pronunciation: italian is a hard language ^^ really looking forward for the "shoorties" episode! OT: are your indiegogo t-shirts also shipped to EU (more specifically Berlin, if it helps)?

@maewinchester2030

8 жыл бұрын

Thank you!! And yes, there is an international shipping option.

Excellent video! I have that book and it's worth every cent

"I'm backwards for tv" - Othias

I watch this all the time not the same video but all of them it is amazing how many videos you have done round of applause for you all 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 sorry if this don’t make sense I am dyslexic and autistic

Great video, keep it up

I've pledge at the start of the year and i'm glad i did. I really enjoy the content.

@Candrsenal

8 жыл бұрын

We're glad too!

Also, that book just made it to very near the top of my to buy list.

@Candrsenal

8 жыл бұрын

Good to hear!

As a suggestion, it would be cool if you guys would also produce some extra shirts with some Swiss rifles on it.

@Candrsenal

8 жыл бұрын

We will hopefully have years to come!

You should really stop apologizing every time you pronounce a foreign name...you're American, of course you don't speak other languages, the stellar quality of your videos more than makes up for it!

@Candrsenal

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks! But I get yelled at all the same.

That rifle looks huge in Mae's hands. Another winner presentation. Detailed, but not boringly so. Italian sights a winner? Who knew. I won't even mention what Primer I'm waiting on.........

@Candrsenal

8 жыл бұрын

I know, the What-Now MkIII*

Going back and rewatching older episodes, I just have to say thanks for your perspective. My old way of thinking was "if it's not the best, it's probably garbage" but the idea that Italy made what worked for them and a Carcano isn't nothing really created a paradigm shift in the way I looked at a lot of firearms.

War were declined

This is the first video I have watched from your channel and I am very impressed. Great Job. I like how you tell about it’s history as well as performance.

Thanks guys. This is one of my favorite channels in all yotube. Keep the good work, and a salute from north of Spain.

@Candrsenal

8 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it! Thanks for watching.

Hi, this carbine it's beautiful... _Andrea_

@Candrsenal

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks

Good video thanks.

@Candrsenal

8 жыл бұрын

I'm glad

@Bikerbob59

8 жыл бұрын

Sorry was talking to May not U.lol :) just kidding.

@maewinchester2030

8 жыл бұрын

Glad you like it!