I was a historical geography professor for thirty two years, teaching about Europe and the Ostmark of Germans to the east. Transylvania was only a small part of the larger scale movement which has almost completely been reversed today. I found the video very informative of this special ethnic group which is now terminal in its continuation.

@metisdocumentaries

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your comment! They were indeed only a small part of the German population in eastern and southeastern Europe, but with a very interesting and important history nonetheless!

@abduvohidodiljonov9365

11 ай бұрын

Larger scale movement ? Do you mean Prussian germans?

@michaelroark2019

11 ай бұрын

@@abduvohidodiljonov9365 The most famous early movement was into the Sudentenland in former Czechoslovakia. But also the movement of Germans along the Baltic into East Prussia, Latvia, Courland, and Estonia was important. They are all gone now as consequences and aftermath of WWII.

@brb4903

7 ай бұрын

Well, in Romania some of them still remained, including the president@@michaelroark2019

@victorrock1997

3 ай бұрын

@@brb4903 Yes, that's true... but the president is not such a good one, regardless of his ethnic background. In point of fact, he was massively voted both as a mayor and as president on the grounds of his Transylvanian Saxon/German roots which many Romanians rightfully see as a positive aspect (which it is). However, he was (and still is) one of the worst Romanian presidents of all times, at least to me and other like-minded people, especially because he endorsed and allied himself with the PSD so much (the party which, as PCR, negatively marked the demographic decline of the Saxons in Transylvania as well as of the entire German population of Romania; not to mention what they and the Securitatea did to the anti-communist or non-communist or non-securist Romanians or Hungarians or Romanian citizens of other ethnic backgrounds).

I was born in Transylvania (Siebenbürgen) in the late 60ies. I well remember my childhood there and my years in school. For us children it wad quite normal to have friends and neighbours of which some spoke Getman, some Romanian, and some Hungarian. We all got well along with each other. Wad a great childhodd, all in all.

@durasdual7467

Жыл бұрын

Transylvania is Romanian !

@erikkaiser1788

Жыл бұрын

I used to live with a German family with the mother side from Siebenbürgen. They were forced to moved during Cold War and found their new home in Bavaria

@reddixdebbix6540

8 ай бұрын

Transilvania is part of Romania since 1918

@pizza8725

7 ай бұрын

Which county?

My father was Transylvanian Saxon, born in Dedrad 1943. His father was conscripted into the German army or possibly SS. Never heard from again although he apparently lived through the war. His mother and my father escaped into Austria at the conclusion of the war. Spent 10 years in a refugee camp then moved to Germany. Visiting the area for the first time in a few months.

@spottdro55el18

9 ай бұрын

I have a picture from Dedrad from NS times. A particularity of the village, is that the boys used to wear "Pfingsthose". Just search on google: "Deutsch-Zepling bilder siebenbuerger" and you will see more with the Tracht and so on. Nonetheless, the village doesn't look anymore like it looked in the times of your grandparents or so. it's completely destroyed. If you want to see a true, well-preserved Saxon village that still has that vibe, it has to be Deutsch-Weißkirch. All the best

I live in Berlin-Brandenburg and the shape of the Saxon settlements in Transylvania are very similar build to the ones we have here, because we also had a wave of Saxon settlers at the same time. We call the shape of the villages "Straßendorf" or "Straßenangerdorf", and they are distinct to the Vlach or Slavic ones.

As a german with Transilvanian-Saxon heritage, this was very interesting to watch! I didn't know I now live in the part of Germany my ancestors used to originate from

@reiic1073

Жыл бұрын

same

@malikilahi6284

3 ай бұрын

how much percent are you

@limeliciousmapping4652

3 ай бұрын

@@malikilahi6284 only 1/8, but it is my patrilinear line, so my surname is of that origin

@malikilahi6284

3 ай бұрын

@@limeliciousmapping4652 Nice, I have 30%

@malikilahi6284

3 ай бұрын

My results are so diverse its weird

As a Transylvania Saxon by birth, I will ask my American-born children and grandchildren to watch this video, so they can better understand some of my stories. Thank you for an excellent video.

I was in Viscri village a few months ago. The former ethnic Germans there have been replaced with Gypsies. However the fortified church is still in good order and is operated as a museum.

Thanks for making this video. As a Swabian living in Romania it surely was an interesting watch!

My father was born in Kronstadt and emigrated to Germany in 1965

@metisdocumentaries

Жыл бұрын

Thats really interesting! Do you still have relatives there?

@SpektralJo

Жыл бұрын

@@metisdocumentaries in don't think so

@christopherellis2663

Жыл бұрын

Corona, Brassó, Braşov

Kinda sad what happened to the Transylvanian saxons

@christopherellis2663

Жыл бұрын

Still around

@D.A.R.89

Жыл бұрын

At least they are still there and very active

@victorrock1997

Жыл бұрын

Very sad... they went through dramas and traumas hard to be properly put into words. I know their history very well. They are very hard working, civilised, well mannered, and kind. At least the situation has slowly but steadily improved to some extent in Romania so that some of them are still around and others are re-visiting Romania and re-taking their rightful properties here. All the best!

@richardandersson7620

Жыл бұрын

@@christopherellis2663they went from 40% and even a majority of cities and counties to not even reaching two digits now a day. That’s not “still around”

@moonman9227

8 ай бұрын

yeah I guess they shouldn’t have been nazis, crazy concept I know

Thank you for making this video. This helped to fill in a lot about my family history.

@metisdocumentaries

Жыл бұрын

I'm happy that I could help you with that 🙂

It is funny that these people aren't even Saxons, but Franconians

@horiabalaban7968

5 ай бұрын

the hungarians called them that because of the clothing and the name stuck.

Great video man! I would be careful about the nazi symbols in the propoganda posters and photos though, youtube can get weird with it and remove things. Also, if you're taking sugggestions, the baltic germans would be an interesting topic. Or a group that are sort of german sort of not, the Prussian-Lithuanians of the region around Klaipėda/Memel.

@metisdocumentaries

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your advice! I hope that they don't remove it since it's clearly for educational porpuses. I am working on another video right now but I will definitely consider your suggestions for later videos. :)

My father's Saxon parent's both arrived young and single in the US in 1907. I suppose it was the impact of the Hungarian policies that motivated them to leave. Not only did they leave but so did many extended family/friends and they all seemed to gather in close knit cities here which I assume helped them be successful. Another thing I find surprising at least in my family is that of their 14 offspring, I don't know of any who married another ethnic Saxon so whatever endogamous practices they came from didn't last long here. I shuddered when you related the Nazi and worse SS experiences those who were left behind participated in, willingly or forced, then decades of local and Soviet ethnic retribution. Really good video. Thanks!

Respect to Germany, cuz Germany didnt left his people without help, instead bought every german. Just respect. 👏. Greeting from Uzbekistan.

Very well explained. Thank you for your hard work.

15:10 It is the money citizens had to pay on their own based on how much state has paid for education. However wrong it seems now, I was suprised that 50 years ago it was normal in half of Europe. This is the French model which was impleneted for renouncing citizenship. Weird!!! 8:10 They were separated not on ethnic but on religious ground. Germans as Lutherans, Romanians as Orthodox and Hungarians as Catholics and Calvinist. Neither of the Christian Churches at that time was recognizing baptizing from another Church

Great video 😊

@metisdocumentaries

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! :)

@scienceN842

Жыл бұрын

@@metisdocumentaries 😊☺️

My great great grandparents were from Scharosch. My great grandma's brother's DNA test showed him as being 82% Germanic in Europe even though their parents were from Transylvania. A distant cousin, Reverend John Foisel of Ohio wrote a book called “second through seventeen centuries” that shows the Siebenburgen Saxons starting with the Cherusci germanic tribe defeating the Romans in 9 AD then the season exodus from what is now known as Bavaria in 240AD and defeating the Kumanes and building the 7 forts/castles (Siebenburgen in German) and how Hermann and his friend crossed their swords in the earth, a saxon way of claiming land, and declared the land Hermannstadt, the German name for Sibiu. I highly recommend the book for others descended, especially if you too have taken a DNA test and want to upload to mytrueancestry and see if you too have the Cherusci tribe in your DNA as I do.

Very nice video! I will give you an advice try to be more energetic in your voice, say it louder. I trink it will help to improve even more the content.

Some of my family is from the region. Thank you for posting this historical view for us to see... Klein/Ellis

Gut gemacht! Well done! Thank you very much for sharing your research! I know all of this history and even more in depth local medieval history from Transylvania. I have roots from Mediasch/Mediaș and Cluj/Klausenburg but I am a native of Suceava/Suczawa. I have German roots as well, as further proved by a MyHeritage test that I did last year. My ancestors actually came from Germany on the Romanian side and firstly settled in the beautiful small town of Mediasch/Mediaș and Cluj/Klausenburg and then moved to Bukovina. World War II was a very sad part of the history of the Transylvanian Saxons and Romanians (as well as humanity in general) respectively Germany and Romania. During communism, the Transylvanian Saxons as well as the Germans of Romania in general along with the anti-communist Romanians had been severely discriminated, incarcerated, and tortured. However, the Saxons were more lucky if I can possibly put so from the following particular perspective: they could flee to West Germany, very much unlike the Romanians. I also have a German relative in my family who emigrated to West Germany prior to 1989. All the best and plenty of success with your channel! Alles Gute! P.S. Ich kann auch Deutsch verstehen und sprechen.

@schutzanzug4518

3 ай бұрын

Fun fact is that the Romanians kicked out all germans in transylvania after they occupied the hungarian land after ww1

Could you please make a video about the Balten Deutsche. Thx

@metisdocumentaries

Жыл бұрын

I am working on another project rn but I definitely plan on doing a video about that topic!

very interesting.

My paternal great Grandmother was descended from Zipser Germans in Bukovia.

Transylvania is probably one of the most interesting historical regions in Europe, it had many Saxons, Magyars, Romanians, And Slovaks. There are actually many Slavs in Transylvania along with Germans.

@metisdocumentaries

Жыл бұрын

That is true! It was very interesting to read all about that during my research for the video 🙂

@bujdososzekely

Жыл бұрын

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@ekesandras1481

Жыл бұрын

Slavs? I think you are a bit wrong informed. There are Romanians, there are Hungarians and Szekély, there are Saxons and Landler, there are Gypsies, there are a few Armenians ... but Slavs? No, there are no Slavs. A little bit there are the Hutsuls in Maramures, but Maramures is not Transylvania anymore.

@goodstuff8156

Жыл бұрын

@Eles Andras There where communities of Slovaks, Rusyns, and Ruthenians (Ukrainians) who lived in Transylvania. It’s hard to deny the Slavic influences in Romania that exist along side the German ones.

@bujdososzekely

Жыл бұрын

@@goodstuff8156 , the top 10 things Romania has stolen kzread.info/dash/bejne/nH6LlsGbgpfLdLg.html

We all know who were the "overlords" discriminating the majority population. (I even say native population). Trying to protect your subjugated ethnicity after hundreds of years of "apartheid" seems like a normal thing to do. No one was allowed to leave Romania freely during communism. Not Germans, Romanians or Aliens.

Interesting, but unfortunately a few inaccuracies may affect the information quality of this video.

@metisdocumentaries

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your feedback, could you explain in detail what you think was wrong?

@Muorosanul

Жыл бұрын

@@metisdocumentaries Mistake 1. [8:33] Romanians continued the nationalistic and anti-minority politics of the Hungarians and even intensified them. - Quite the contrary, Romanians granted so many rights to the minorities that the status of ethnic Romanians in Transilvania remained problematic, as Hungarian nobles continued to own much of the land and the Saxons to control the crafts and industry. This even contradicts the later statement that Saxons controlled 90% of the industry and 75% of the commerce in Transilvania.

@Muorosanul

Жыл бұрын

@@metisdocumentaries No. 2. Ethnic Germans in Transilvania also comprising the Swabians, voted for the union with Romania after WW1. The economy grew steadily in the following years, not at all stagnating, as did the size of the german population, reaching over 700 000 people in 1930. Even the royal family was German at that time :) The economical stagnation and the emigration the video talks about happened only after WW2.

@Muorosanul

Жыл бұрын

@@metisdocumentaries No. 3. The money paid by the German government for the Saxon emigrants and the mentioned "gifts" were for the Ceausescu regime, not for Romanians. He was an imposed dictator, not a representative of the people. Romanians suffered more than Saxons during that regime, but they had no chance to escape to Germany. In conclusion, the German minority is clearly the most respected in Romania, but this does not mean we can denigrate other ethnics fo that reason.

@metisdocumentaries

Жыл бұрын

Hello Morosanu. First of all, thank you for your detailed answer. I want to apologize if any of my statements in the video offended you, that was not my intention. Since I am a German speaker, I rely mostly on German and English sources while doing my research. It could be possible that some of my German sources are a bit biased regarding topics that include ethnic Germans. If that’s the case, please don’t mistake that for my own opinion. To # 1: It’s true that many rights were granted to them on paper, but that doesn’t mean that they got all of them in the end. For example, the “Nationsuniversität”, the own political and juridical entity of the Saxons, that existed for roughly 450 years, was permanently abolished by the Romanian government. (Although it was already temporarily abolished and weakened by the Austrians and Hungarians before). It possessed and oversaw a lot of forests and real estate in the region and the government seized those properties with little to none compensation. That took away the main funding source for many cultural projects of the ethnic German group, like the German speaking schools for example. I know and agree, that the status of the Germans before all of that, was way better than that of the Romanians in the region. The Saxons had more rights than them even though they were in the minority. But it was nevertheless a new and worse situation for them, since they had this special status for so many generations and didn’t know anything else. In 1932, the government of Romania also issued a law that would have required all companies in the country, to have at least 60% of Romanians in leading positions and at least 75% in the other positions. It was however not implemented after massive protests of the minority groups. Now I can’t say with 100% certainty, which government treated them better in the end, since I didn’t live in Transylvania at that time, my sources stated that it was a bit worse under the Romanians, but that doesn’t mean that it really was that way. You seem to be right about the percentages on the economy though! I checked a few other sources and they contradict the one that I used while making the video. It seems like the percentages are roughly correct, but apply only to the south of Transylvania, where the majority of the Germans were situated. I’m sorry for that. To #2: It is true that they voted for the Union with Romania, that’s why I said in the video that they hoped for a better treatment under the Romanians compared to the Hungarians. Some sectors of the economy boomed after WW1, you are right about that, that’s why I mentioned that there also existed a small group of rich industrialists that did well during this time. But, the vast majority of the Transylvanian Saxons, as well as the other ethnic groups in Romania, were farmers, and especially Saxons and Hungarians were victims of the Romanian land reforms in 1921, when lands of large landowners were redistributed to small landowners. Many of the new farms were just too small and economically unviable, even before the great depression. There was just not enough capital invested in the agricultural sector and the loans that were granted, had insanely high interest rates which led to many borrowers defaulting on their loans. And when the great depression came, it obviously also hit Romania very hard. The massive price drops, especially for agricultural products, was another blow for the country’s farmers. (Most Saxons were farmers) I found a good site that specializes on the inter war economy of Romania here: www.nbs.rs/export/sites/NBS_site/documents/publikacije/konferencije/seemhn_conf/SEEMHN_14_Rumunija.pdf The population did grow a bit, that’s correct, but it was never as high as 700.000. That’s sadly a mistake in many sources as I found out. 700.000 is the number of ALL ethnic Germans in Romania, not the Transylvanian Saxon group. Yes, the royal family was of German descent, as were many other royal families in Europe, but I don’t see exactly what that would have to do with the Transylvanian Saxons? To #3: I totally agree with you on that! That’s why I especially mentioned that the cars and hunting rifles were for Ceausescu. I’m sorry if it made the impression that I meant the Romanians were responsible for all of that. I know that they sadly lived and suffered under Ceausescu and his communist dictatorship as well. So when I talked about Romanians or the Romanian government during that section I always meant the Regime, not the people. Romania was also one of the only countries in eastern Europe that didn’t banish their ethnic German minorities following WW2, and that shouldn’t be forgotten!

Hallo an minn doitschen Bruhder unn Schweschtern in Siebenbürgen! Iech senn ursprinlich us Târgu Mureș unn hob Rumäänien en 2015 ferlotz unn lew en Doitschland seiddem.. Iech fermiss minn Haimtland.. Frieje unn Liäb 💕

After the WW II most of the Saxons were sent indiscriminately to Siberia for the rebuilding of the Soviet Union it didn’t matter if you were guilty or not. In 1982 we had to subscribe to leave Transylvania for ever, my mother got for her house in Schässburg 6000 lei = 600 DM now 300 €, the houses of both of my grandparents were confiscated, personally I would not like to have to do something with Romania again. Tens of thousands of Transylvanian Saxons died in Siberia in the labour camps. So Romania eliminated its Saxon population.May the Lord bless and keep you. When I see this pictures there is always a big wound opening in my chest. So Romania got rid of the Saxons, I will never understand why my foremothers and fathers choose to go to Transylvania in this God cursed country. All of our cities and villages were erased, the names of the cities and villages were changed and their population eliminated like with Cartagena.

@274norbi

7 ай бұрын

Your forefathers came to Hungary I am certain of that, NOT to Romania where you enjoyed a German life for around 800 years. However, after WW1 there was a change of management, aka Romania took over and literally eradicated the German community nice and slowly. In the 1940s, some estimates say it was as high as 700K Germans and by 2021 it was just 22K. In fact, in 2011, the ethnic Germans numbered 40,000 now down to 22,000. Nearly another 50% down in just 10 years. In just 100 years the German community nearly disappeared, while for 800 years under Hungarian rule, it was steady/growing. I just had an argument with Transylvanian Saxon and he said that the Romanians have been nice to them, unlike the Hungarians. The guy was totally clueless about what the Romanians had done to the community. He even said there were no mass deportations and no properties confiscated. He seemed to be totally brainwashed by Romanian propaganda. He did go to school in Romania as well as in Germany. He even served as a soldier in the German army. He kept on saying I don't what I am saying. He kept on saying only Hungarians deported ethnic Germans, NOT Romanians. I also told him that is true, and I am not denying it. My great-grandmother was deported, however, she and her brother were part of the Nazi war machine, hence why they were punished. I said look at the numbers of the ethnic Germans in Hungary, even with the deportations in the 40s, we number around 180K- 200K and still increasing as more Hungarians with German background are embracing their heritage. There is mini-renaissance to the German community with the help of the Hungarian government as they are trying to make up for their mistake, we even have the only German-speaking university in Budapest outside German-speaking countries in the world. Not to mention, there are plenty of ethnic German Hungarians living abroad that are not included in the Hungarian census. This includes me, my brother, and my mum for example. So the numbers would be at least 300K - 400K. I also knew plenty of ethnic German Hungarians in the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand etc. I lived in all these countries and every second or third Hungarian immigrant had a German background of some sort.

@andreeas.2362

5 ай бұрын

Lot of Romanians died in Siberia too. From rep of Moldova many were deported even in Kazakhstan. Remember we jointly fought at Stalingrad. Romanians even to the death (some brigades had over 95%death toll, higher than those of germans despite being better dressed for winter) since the germans oficers disregarded the romanian reports and also did not provide the promised ammunition. Romania did not get rid of saxon , they choose to leave, romanians could not, they left later (5 mil of us). I remind you that the president is also a german and had 2 mandates (max ).

@raduandreinegrila215

Ай бұрын

The horrible atrocities of deportation and forced labour were done by the Communists (in the case of the German population it was directly by the Soviet army directive, which occupied Romania), which were installed to rule Romania by the Soviets against the will of the people. Remember that millions of Romanians and all ethnicities were also persecuted and hundreds of thousands were deported or sent to labour camps. Then and later on, during Ceaușescu's rule nobody was allowed to leave the country and they would try to discourage the ethnic Germans from leaving by making their life very hard, even though they would get money from them. My grandfather was a foremen in a steel mill in Hunedoara, he had a German friend who was working in his team and he helped him avoid persecution before leaving for West Germany. I remember as a kid in the 90s when he was coming back to visit Romania and my Grandparents (I think I got a camera with Kodak film from Mr Kepp). Generally people get along well despite of the different ethnicities, nowadays in Transylvania and Banat regions I think there is also a bit of a melting pot effect as a lot of Romanians have at least one ancestor who had probably a different ethnicity.

This video has some mistakes and gaps.

Stephan Ludwig Roth, a Transylvanian Saxon, wrote about the most widely spoken language in Transylvania. The gentlemen from the Diet in Klausenburg may have given birth to an official language, and now they rejoice, that the child was born.... However we have already a language of the land. It is not German, also not the Hungarian language, but the Wallachian language! We may take measures and threaten as we like, that is the way it is, and not otherwise. When two people of different nationalities, who cannot speak each other's language, meet, is the Wallachian language that serves as translator. No matter if one travels or goes to the market, anyone can speak Wallachian. Before one tries to see whether that one can speak German or that one can speak Hungarian, the discussion starts in Wallachian.

Transylvania is Romanian ! 🇷🇴

@angora6588

Жыл бұрын

It's waaay more than just that draga mea 😘

@Etelezoli

Жыл бұрын

Sorry, but Transylvania shouldn't be Romanian, and shouldn't be Hungarian, Transylvania is of the Transylvanians.

@durasdual7467

Жыл бұрын

@@Etelezoli , just in your mind.

@Etelezoli

Жыл бұрын

@@durasdual7467 If it would be just in my mind, Transylvania wouldn't have a flag for so long time (which is, bye the way, of colour of blue-red-yellow). Probably you are not Transylvanian, or you don't have Transylvanian spirit, that's why you are so ignorant.

@D.A.R.89

Жыл бұрын

@@Etelezoli And who are the "Transylvanians"? Ah yes, Romanians and Hungarians...

Transilvania are o istorie milenara!! Foarte putin ....

First, everything is right until more modern History, starting with the Unification of Romania, and then, the German Peoples living there. And to start, Those Peoples were very highly regarded in Romanian Society until the middle and even late 1930s, until they all became extremely radical, as explained here. In short, there was no Discrimination against those peoples, its just that the Lands were going trough a big Change of power, and of course that they were not pleased to no longer be under Hapsburg Rule and Germanic Imperial Influence. Second, as we saw the same happened with those peoples when they were under direct Hungarian Rule. And to say it at least, those were extremely, closed, apartheid Societies, as explained in this video. So Romanian Discrimination? No, but no longer ruled over by a German Empire and influence? Yes. And after that yeah...more than 90% of them joined the Waffen XX and were dominated by Radical ideals..Yeah...

Film mizerabil! Să vă ștergeți undeva cu el !

transylvania was poorer than the kingdom of romania when it got united (mostly because the kingdom had sea access). also the kings of romania were germans so the discrimination argument doesn't hold.

@dacian_1346

9 ай бұрын

Transylvania was definitely way richer than the kingdom of Romania, what you say is just bs propaganda. Transilvania was the only industrialised region with good infrastructure in Romania in 1925, the rest were and still are a complete strain wreck

Each country of Eastern Europe had the similar story of discrimination of nationalistic reasons,still official politics in most of these countries,f ex destruction of autonomy in Oberschlesien,this is what we call Russian spirit;russki mir.

@moonman9227

8 ай бұрын

nie ma potrzeby żeby ślązacy mieli jakąkolwiek autonomię

And that's what happens when you betray your host. You sided with Romania in a crucial time, and Romania sold you off for money like cattle.

@CaraTibi

Жыл бұрын

As if they were that silly to trust the home-making rats... But they were!

@generalofthearmieseduard9662

Жыл бұрын

At least they let them go back and made profit

@cip5949

6 ай бұрын

Tell me u miserable magyar, what happened to the germans living in Hungary after 1918, when they were about 20 % of population of Hungary? Who did they betray? How did they almost disappear?

Yeah, your president is a transilvanian saxon! Or is Klaus Johannis a Rumanian Name??? Who built the renowned fortyfied Churches? The Dacians?? Instead of being nationalistic prats we should think about why the rumanian-,roma-, hungarian-, german- , jewish-, gree-k, serb-,russian-, etc- speaking people where actually getting along pretty well creating such a beautyful, joyful and tolerant strip of land with great artists, sportsmen, scientists and so on. What does ethnic belonging have to do with pride? I am as proud of Sile Dinicu , Hermann Oberth,Bela Bartok and so on - It is the ethnic diversty that makes Transilvania special and great. I was born there and Ceausescu drove me out. I am still Homesick at 62.

I wish we'd have more Saxon minorities in Transilvania than Hungarians... 😔

@daringdare5078

Жыл бұрын

I wish that bloodthirsty racist savages like you would stop bringing genocide to the region.

@gabork5055

Жыл бұрын

Ironically a lot of them assimilated into the Hungarian Székely population or went to Hungary. My grandfather was also related to them and if you look at Louis C.K (his original name was also Székely)his red facial hair makes it clear he's also related to the Saxons. In Hungary it was a common thing if you lived with a certain group of people your family name reflected that, f.ex. my grandmother descended from a family that lived in areas populated by Serbs or were Serbs so their family was called Rácz. I think the same thing might have happened with C.K.-s family. You probably have more Saxons than you think. If they consider themselves Hungarian, well i guess people have to live with it.

@DacianRider

Жыл бұрын

@@gabork5055 Louis C.K. is the man & honestly his wiki page looks like a joke in itself. For one, the Székely name, secondly says he's American - Mexican and following the events of 2017, we conclude that he's pretty much a pervert ! 😆 ye, I love this guy ! and honestly, I have nothing personal against the Székely community in RO ( that would be foolish ) But I do oppose those who act like stinking separatists, talking of autonomy and such. Both our people have suffered enough... enough with trying to wipe each other off, trying to subvert the national flag and erase the language... those days should be in the past or in Putler's Russia ! hai noroc ! ..if it doesn't fall on death ears. 🍻

@CaraTibi

Жыл бұрын

All of Europe wishes that the Romanians go to India, Afghanistan or Africa... England to steal for a living... Hopefully in 100 years all Romanians disappear from Europe.

@DacianRider

Жыл бұрын

@@CaraTibi < this specimen right here needs to go away, as far away as possible. we don't need fascists like him around RO.

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