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I was a Fosgate guy. But I've ran Orion on occasion. Everything back then was Alpine, Kenwood, Sony etc. Today I'm still convinced Kenwood amps sucked the worst. The Orion high current was really good, so I ran batteries in parallel and used the thickest gauge out there. Blew many a woofer in my day. Good times !

This is great, it took me back about 25 years when phoenix gold and JL Audio subs were kings. i havent really been into it in a while and this vid brought me right back to that time. im remembering set ups i havent thought of in years. thanks for travel back in time.

@HifiVega

6 жыл бұрын

Bubbas Gift thanks for watching! I’m happy to hear it brought you back to the good ole days of car audio, because that’s exactly what I intended lol.

Pretty cool! I haven't heard some of those amp names in literally ages! Thanks!

love it. I will be running 3 of the orions, 2 of the crossfires and 2 of the mtx's in this years challenge. I am going to submit a bunch of different tests. I also will be making videos for all the ones i test. Looking forward to this years competition!

Great vid! Keep them coming.

@lfernandez9194

5 жыл бұрын

BigDWiz Big D have you ever test the XTR800 Orion. An if you have please tell me where is the video I would love to know the results thank you

I still run vintage class AB gear in my vehicle, it's not the loudest with sealed subs but it sounds really good.

@krismichalsky

3 жыл бұрын

I only run vintage 90's amps in my vehicles. I do not like the modern amps of today. I know there are plenty of really good amps out there, but I prefer my Phoenix Gold, Audio Art, etc....

@koprcord5338

3 жыл бұрын

Getting ready to resurrect my ppi 2150am and 2 individually sealed punch 12s. Sq was fantastic.

@killernukem5914

2 жыл бұрын

I use a old school planet audio p2502 for my mids and highs in my car

Man, this takes me back. Good times... I couldn't believe the awesomeness displayed around the 2:59 mark!

@HifiVega

7 жыл бұрын

ArcadeDude44 That picture was a good friend of mine's collection and it was awesome!

Hard to believe this is there years old. You do good work!

@HifiVega

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I've been trying to improve my skills with each upload and hope to continue doing so.

Great video! Got here from big d smokin the Orion 225 hcca, now I’m going back to big d cuz your recommendation for the RF punch 45 I still have one of the original punch 12” which I blew one back in the 90’s and I’m scared to use the one that’s still good.. at least that’s what my ddm says.

Awsome man it really does bring back memories when I first got into car audio keep them coming!!!!!

@HifiVega

5 жыл бұрын

terry farmer Thanks!

Bringing back so many memories thank you man!!! Keep up the good work.

@HifiVega

6 жыл бұрын

1solidtaino Thanks!

I don’t know if you remember them, but the Autotek 44 was an awesome cheater. They even made special version called the champagne series. I ran 10 kicker 12’s on 4-44 champagne’s. It was a great time in car stereo in the early 90’s. Big fan of yours and Big D! Keep up the great content!

@HifiVega

3 жыл бұрын

Appreciate it! The Autoteks were little beats for sure

@skydyverjym

Жыл бұрын

Audio shop where I hung out won a local spl on one 44, can't remember exactly which or how many woofers he ran but they were lanzar. I wanted a 44 so damn bad and could never afford one

@bondalero0074

11 ай бұрын

HiFonics and AutoTek were built by a company called (Zed Audio) that disappeared and sold to Chinese companies and now you see what you get compared to back then! RockFordFosgate, PPI, SoundStream, Linear Power, and Phoenix Gold were all beast and then came the Orion Red👑!”GameOver!”#🔊❤️ @HiFiVega

@justinbeaver6423

4 ай бұрын

Yeahni had many different Autotek models thru the years still prefer them today over the overpriced stuff made today

This was the golden age of car stereo. I had many different amps back then: MTx terminator, hifonics Odin, Adcom gfa5275, Lanzar Opti 500, sound stream reference 604. My dream back then was the McIntosh Amos with the visible analog tubes 😊

I remember those day's I had three vehicles i installed 200, and two 2000 above class between 88' to '90 love your video.

Great video and info on the history of cheater amps,but of course we all know that their are so many different brands of cheater amps that it's so hard to cover all of them in one video!!! But all in all this was a great video and it gives people a good idea how cheater amps came about!!! For the people like myself and others who have cheater amps should feel lucky and very previlage to have a piece of history in the cheater amp category!!! I personally have the 1996 ROCKFORD FOSGATE PUNCH POWER 50M and 50x2 pair of cheater amps in mint condition in which I will never sell because I know that those are great amps and they are part of the cheater amp world!!! ✌✌✌

@HifiVega

6 жыл бұрын

Jose Garcia Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! You’re right about the number of cheater amps that were available back in the day and I’m not even sure I know all of the cheaters amps that were available lol.

You brought me back to the good old days, I competed in a iasca competition at los angeles coliseum. I had 4 orion amps with 4 redline woofers/ morel speakers . I hit 140dbs . Love your channel

@HifiVega

6 жыл бұрын

Martin Sabanero I bet that sounded excellent! Thanks for watching!

In 1990 I had a Punch 150 mono at 2 ohms on two 12's and a Punch 45 at 4 ohms on two 6.5, two 4's and 4 tweets in a 1989 300z Twin Turbo. The install was super clean and I dominated the Sound Comps around here in the under 200w class. It hit so hard I had to have the car in the shop to get a lot of the bolts tightened and add LockTite. Now, I'm 50 and run 950watts of JL Audio on all JL speakers in a Silverado with one W7AE 8". People swear I have 2 12's. Technology and music has changed, but good clean sound hasn't.

@HifiVega

6 жыл бұрын

Richard Lawley it’s insane how far the technology has come, but the love of audio hasn’t ever changed.

The old school Zed designed Hifonics amps were beasts! I had a Cupid series VIII that was running 2 ohm bridged on a pair of JL Audio 12w1s(the original ones). That little amp would get warm but it never overheated. I miss my old school Hifonics amps.

@HifiVega

6 жыл бұрын

91CavGT the Zed made Hifonics amps were great!

@91CavGT5

6 жыл бұрын

Yes they were! I should have never sold mine.

@skinnyWHITEgoyim

Жыл бұрын

I had a series 7 boltar and a series 8 Zeus. I sorely miss both. But damn were they alternator killers

The soundstream p100 looks much older than the others. I love the soldering iron cutout on the kicker where they upgraded the power cables.

I had 4 10" Godfather M&M poly sub in a sealed box on 2 Sanyo 50/50's with a slide out green button alpine in 1987.I began using drugs and lost sight of my love for car audio , missed the whole 90's ,2000- 2010, and started back building the next 5 years and in the summer of 2015 i went and competed in my first DB Drag show . i didnt place but hit a 150.1 at 31hz. The following year i came in 6th in my class at World Finals . I unboxed my 3rd DC 9 k earlier this afternoon.I bought it used, but who cares right ! I loved your video btw , THANKS BROTHER

@HifiVega

6 жыл бұрын

Brian69frmO'Vale that’s a heck of a come back man! I’d like to compete again on a small level myself at some point. Thanks for watching and commenting man. I love reminiscing about the old school days.

@brian69frmovale76

6 жыл бұрын

hifivega , Well , it is true what they say about with God all things are possible...

+1. Real nice understanding and tutorial of the "Cheater" 12V automotive amplifiers of the 1980's thru 1990's. High Current designs that when dropping the output impedance, as low as a half Ohm, the output power was raised exponentially. Ideal for low impedance, dual coil type sub-woofers ...

@HifiVega

7 жыл бұрын

Michael Schneider Thank you!

@mephInc

6 жыл бұрын

Ran my 225HHCAs at .25ohm. They lived a short life (one summer), but holy balls would they put out. And the power doesn't get raised exponentially. Every time you cut the impedance in half, you double power.

Love this video. Didn't start bassing until about 90 or 91. Couple years later I had a bug with 8 mtx blue thunder 15s and a huge ROCKFORD WHO? sticker on the back window in the Rockford font. Hate Rockford. Always have, always will

Loved this video, takes me back

@HifiVega

6 жыл бұрын

Randall Natomagan thanks for watching!

Njoyed the vid, those were the good ol days Fo Sure i had Orion, R.Fosgate, mtx, ppi and few more brands all just mins down the road from me in the tempe az area.. I still have a bunch of old orion stuff from those days and its not uncommon to find em still these days for sale on the local craigslist.. even still new in the original box's & packaging in some cases.. I still use Orion Xtr's to this day

@HifiVega

7 жыл бұрын

Mike McCabe Tempe is the mecca of car audio! All the best brands were down there I would have loved to visit some of them in the good ole days. Thanks for watching!

boy bringing back the memories. ..I ran usaci with 1 50 watt us amp on 6 15' kicker subs and a us amp 50 on mids and high...crx wall. around 151 db on the old flash dance song...hell I think the world record was only like 153 or 154 back then...all round 1989...memories

@HifiVega

7 жыл бұрын

Xstreamaudio Flash dance! I remember well lol. Crx's were very popular build cars in the 90's and early 00's.

@Xstreamaudio

7 жыл бұрын

hifivega give anything to go back in time

@jasonstell9348

3 жыл бұрын

Mmats d100hc on 2 ground zero hydrogen 15 in box behind seats 146. Competed in 0 to 100 nspl. B & k meter. Lol.

I remember that Orion225 HCCA winning so many class trophies where guys would load up on passive X-overs and putting speakers in parallel to drop the resistance seen by the amplifier.

AutoTek also had some. People used to try to hide there amps. My boss I worked for in the 90's did it. He mounted them all!g the side of the box and could only access by taking the topper off. I've been professionally installing since then. Great vid.

@HifiVega

6 жыл бұрын

Jason Avera thanks! It’s also pretty well known that US Amps was putting some seriously big amps in cheater “chassis”... almost all the manufacturers got in on it at some point.

Great video thanks for schooling us on the old school!!! Appreciate ya!!!

@HifiVega

6 жыл бұрын

Tater T.V. Thanks for watching bro!

cool vid man I sure miss these amps

@HifiVega

6 жыл бұрын

TejasToolMan You and me both! Thanks for watching!

I had no idea cheater amps existed. Cool video man!!

@HifiVega

6 жыл бұрын

thatkyleguy 1 Thanks for watching!

The good old days

@HifiVega

6 жыл бұрын

Seth yes it was. Thanks for watching!

Hahahaha! Love this video! I had 2 225HHCAs and some Crossfires here and there over the years. I miss the days of "sshhh.. I'm running it at .25ohm"

@HifiVega

6 жыл бұрын

Bearistopheles I really loved the 225’s myself, great amps! Thanks for watching

@fallofthezombies1379

5 жыл бұрын

Boom or bang

Glad you included MTX 🤙🏻

@HifiVega

5 жыл бұрын

Jerry Teague you know it 😉

@Reedic20

3 жыл бұрын

MTX blue thunder pro 3002 same as the 2300 I still have it

a good vid from ahistorical perspective. I feel it should be noted all of the amps are "class A/B" as an amp they will produce more wattage at lower impedes and also by raising the voltage. at the cost of efficiency.

@HifiVega

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks! A lot of these amps had unregulated power supplies, so you could get more power with higher voltage.

Hey man great video. Another aspect of cheater amps that you and others often fail to mention was the THD and input voltage at the rated power. I remember my USAcoustics amp being rated at 12.5 volts and something like .01% distortion. Running it a volt (or more) higher and pushing it close to clipping would render far more useable RMS power even at the stated impedance rating. Am I wrong on this?

@HifiVega

7 жыл бұрын

Adam Abreu you're right! Many of these amps had unregulated power supplies and were able to take up to 16v and sometimes more.

Fine job sir but it should be noted that these were all SQ monsters as well. I've retired mine to "light duties" and they sparkle with incredible clarity and detail. Class D isn't an option for me even though it has come a long way with improved sonics. Still rocking old school gear in my new school car because efficiency isn't a issue at moderate levels of listening.

@HifiVega

6 жыл бұрын

Brian Bakerink you're right! Back in the day I ran my entire system off of 4 225 hcca's they sounded wonderful on my mids and highs.

Cool to see the memphis in there too. Its one of the hardest ones to find nowdays imo. I used to beat the hell out of the one I had back in the day and it never went into protect a single time. I would road trip it for hours on end in the Texas heat wired @1ohm mono (with the gain on it all the way up lol, to be fair it really didn't distort at all though, well at least by ear).

@rdooski

3 жыл бұрын

Ha right after posting this I decided to check ebay for one and low and behold there was a couple on there. One was it mint condition and being sold by the original owner. I couldn't help myself and threw out a $100 offer and got accepted! There was a Aria branded one on there too, I had never seen one of those before.

I had an Orion HCCA 250...that thing was a beast.

I had a Rockford Fosgate punch power 50.2 it was rated 25 watt by two really good amp

@HifiVega

8 жыл бұрын

I had one as well it was a great amplifier! Big D has it now as you can see the "Hulk" in one of his dyno runs. kzread.info/dash/bejne/laabtrNyhazWepc.html

Great video. I had friends put Orion 275 boards in 225 chassis lol

@HifiVega

8 жыл бұрын

Yeah I'm sure there was more of that kind of stuff than most people realized.

@brian69frmovale76

6 жыл бұрын

SundownBlazer i heard about people switching out fosgate boards out with punch cases years ago myself LOL

Very good video and a look back at yesteryear. #orion

Really brought back the memories.

That's what's up love little history on cheater amps

@HifiVega

5 жыл бұрын

Louie Villa Thanks

I remember guys running multiple subs off the punch 45&75 and to this day I still don't know how they wired those to do that

Yo..I Had That Punch 45HD In My 93 Ford Esort With 2 12's,that banged out of this world bro! That Little Amp surprised me bro,I was just getting my feet wet back then with the sounds! The Good O Days...man!😎💪🔥💯👍✌

@HifiVega

7 жыл бұрын

Bill Walton I used to beat the heck out of those old RF HD's! Load them down to 1ohm stereo and all that lol. You could fry an egg off of the amp, but it took it...

@billwalton7496

7 жыл бұрын

O Yea...you could cook a t bone and eggs lol😂😅💪💯

To hell with new amps i love old school amps i damn near had every amp in these pictures I know for a fact in over a 20year time spand I know I've spent well over 10grand far as buying those amps new dollar per watt expensive but I'm a car audio junkie love the video bro keeping coming

@HifiVega

6 жыл бұрын

general kick ass Thanks!

I know this is an old vid, but I did find it full of info I like. So with that, thanks.

@HifiVega

5 жыл бұрын

You Know Your Wrong Thanks for watching and commenting!

I knew someone that had a Crossfire like that may have been a different model it's been 10-15 years since I saw it last but definitely from that series.

As far as "cheater" amps go, in the underrated category, the MTX 2300 and 2300x (as well as the blue thunder pro3002) being rated at 150 a channel was just hilarious. My favorite amp by far. Would run whatever you threw at it, and make HUGE power. I always thought that amp was a huge up yours to RF, and I still run them today.

@HifiVega

5 жыл бұрын

Eric Ingram they were beastly for sure

I love it. Orion started and ended the cheater amp game. I have 4 Orion NT amps and I'll say this, Orion made some of the best amps ever made!!!

@HifiVega

7 жыл бұрын

bottomfeeder73 Orion was one of my favorite amp builders of that period.

@mephInc

6 жыл бұрын

My favorite is that they only listed 4ohm power, but everyone knew they could take .25ohm. Beefy little bastards.

@santosjerez1586

6 жыл бұрын

Orion is the best car audio period ...

@Tracetidwellusmc

5 жыл бұрын

They just hit the restart button now, cheater amps are back!

@josephah2000

4 жыл бұрын

I’m running 2 Orion XTR 200s in my current build (the original marbleized red NTs) and they are arguably the best sounding car amps ever made. They are 25+ years old and counting!

Great content! Taught me alot!

@HifiVega

4 жыл бұрын

Scott Wright thanks!

Still rocking my MTX Thunder 2300. It's in the wife's car now. Have to run it at 50% to avoid letting the smoke out of the Rockford 10s it's driving.

I used to run a crossfire cfa30hc. Thing got down pretty good.

@HifiVega

7 жыл бұрын

incman78 you ain't lying about that! Those suckers did more than double rated.

Best cheater amplifier was inside a Harman Kardon head unit. In audio competitions, there was a class for "self powered head units". The HK head units could send out a massive amount of current. We did 2 demo cars that always won 1st place trophies. One had a single 12", the other had a pair of 10" subs.

@HifiVega

4 жыл бұрын

Steve on I’ve never heard of those... I’ll have to look em up

@Dauntless.steadfast.fortitude

3 жыл бұрын

Harman Kardon CR151 3 sets of RCA outs ( low, mids & his ) & relatively high voltage out put at 5-6 volts dolby stereo cassette pull out head unit....👍👍

I found a good deal on a Crossfire CFA402, What would say this amp would make?

@HifiVega

4 жыл бұрын

10-15% over rated

I have a 1996 Soundstream 10.2 amp ive had since 2003 when i first got it i had it in bridged mono it blew 2 dj speakers that had 2EV 15 inch speakers in them and a 1200watt 12inch jbl speaker sent it to electronics shop and they said amp was fine have been afraid to put it in mono ever since.September 2018 amp still going strong on 2 earthquake Magma15's in stereo tempted to try mono again though.

@HifiVega

5 жыл бұрын

Elliott Watson sub amps aren’t as fun if you can’t bridge them!

I used to own 3 Hifonics Planet X amps rated at 20 watts, I wounder how those would do as they used the same board as a Zeus rated at 1100 watts or so. Interesting

@HifiVega

5 жыл бұрын

Jorge Serna those amps were very cool! I bet they’d do well

Nice I had a 2 punch 45s running 4 twelves back in the day them amps hit harder than any thing best buy sells. So confused in 2017 about ready to do a system in my daughter's car . I am thinking 2 JL w7s and a and 2 JL 1000/1 amps then do 4 6.50s with a JL HD600 what u think

@HifiVega

6 жыл бұрын

Norm Sniper the 45’s were sleepers! That JL set up sounds like it would be a real block beater. Those w7’s are serious drivers and I’ve only played with the 8 and 10in models.

@mephInc

6 жыл бұрын

Check out Sundown Audio. Amazing power to $ ratio on the subs.

Cool video man!

@HifiVega

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks man!

used to run my kicker xs100 down to .25 ohms mono. had no dyno but im guessing well into the 3.5k realm. rated at 100w 4 ohm stereo

@HifiVega

6 жыл бұрын

Those were strong amps for sure! I used a XS50 to compete 0-100 class back in the day.

@mephInc

6 жыл бұрын

200 @ 2ohm 400 @ 1ohm 800 @ .5 ohm 1200 @ .25ohm As long as you had the juice to feed it.

I may be wrong...but wasn’t the 225 High Current Class A amp, later changed to High Current Comp Amp due to design change.

@HifiVega

5 жыл бұрын

Michael Sadorf according to Bernie it was the 2250 high current class a and only 10 of them were made. Them they changed the power classes and then he had to tweak the design a little to accommodate and it threw the class a bias off so it became the 225 high current competition amp.

I had the Rockford Fosgate power 250m2 with 4 xlc Rockford 12's 8ohmers I would drop them down to 1 ohm and that amp would make like 1700 to 1800 watts. It was in a Plymouth Lazer that was the loudest car in Mecca SLP at the time it was a 150db.Good Times

@williamwatkins9509

7 жыл бұрын

The class I was in was CS3.

@HifiVega

7 жыл бұрын

William Watkins that's awesome! We didn't have Meca comps in my area so I mainly competed in Usac.

I beat on my Punch 45 for years and it never broke!

l knew l have seen you're channel name before! l remember this video from awhile ago.

Thank u bro for your time good stuff

@HifiVega

4 жыл бұрын

erik sikk thanks for watching!

Man i had that big crossfire on two fosgate series 1 12s in a pinto pony had two of the mtx 2300s on two fosgate xlc 15s in a bubble hatch Capri rs later had the two xlcs on two fosgate 250a2s in a 25th anniversary camaro and still have an old phoenix gold 250 on two w0 10" in a convertible fox just bought the 8808.1d to put on two lanzar dvc 10's in a mrk4 golf for some cheap fun 😁 Id hate myself if the vegas or the phoenix gave up their magic smoke

I have that Earthquake amp, still running. Still punishing woofers. Still have 3 caps to soften the blow on the cars electronics. I will not let it go till it goes out. Not efficient at all and neither is the car it's installed in ;)

@HifiVega

6 жыл бұрын

av8mm The Earthquake amp is fantastic, but if it ever needs repaired it’s a real pita to find parts. I had this one completely rebuilt and my buddy said it was quite a job.

Not sure.. But can some one tell me if the tramps a cheater type AMP design or not.. Thanks.. I like them amps.. Back then I had Jenson amps..

@HifiVega

6 жыл бұрын

D.J. KEYS so the Taramps amps are Brazilian and work a little differently than the old school amps we are used to. I wouldn't say they are a cheater amp per say because they are rated properly, but I know that they were banned by some organizations. They are interesting amps for sure! If you'd like to see what they can do on the amp Dyno you should check out my buddy's latest video. kzread.info/dash/bejne/loRt26-YnNm-kpc.html

My bro sold me that old school amp in 09 but that small old school punch the truth. Got it pushing 3:15 kicker comp banging em insanely

Oh man i used to have most of those .

@HifiVega

5 жыл бұрын

M D me too... But I’ve let them go because I ran out of room lol

Great video. I so so so miss the old days of car audio in the early to mid 90's..

@HifiVega

6 жыл бұрын

bossofthemoss thanks!

Majestic!

What about the old school Lanzar amp...I remember a 100 watts Lanzar pushing 4 15" kickers..Yea for about 45min.. then it'll overheat..but that's just because we didn't have the extra stuff to keep it on...like capacitor, fat wires, good alternator and a good battery...

@HifiVega

6 жыл бұрын

John Rambo the Lanzar 50hc’s were legendary! I liked the blue color too.

What about the orion xtreme power x over xtr 475? What do u know about that?

@HifiVega

5 жыл бұрын

Kerry Bray legendary 4 channel

....Oh yea, I remember these amps, my bro was Mngr of Auto Sounds Car Audio in Southern California 85-89. If not mistaken, it was 87 that that Nazi'esk noise pollution law was ratified & cops began spittin tickets like sunflower seed shells, also they used "noise" aka the rise of rap, as a reason to stop-question-detain- threaten-search-and sight you if they could hear your stereo, at intersection, next to you, with thier windows up. The ancient legislators who drafted this law grew up on Sodi pop, 2barrel carborators, & a 6 watt am radio wired to a single 3×5 posterboard paper open cone undermounted in dashboard by Henry ford himself. I recall the first time I heard a mini truck with dual 15"s 3"mids in door 1.5" tweets just above windshield, that was in 86 & they kicked us out if drive in, said it was to loud! This was during intermission when thier was no movie on......lotta haters of music & audio tech back then, they did NOT like the cars that go BOOM!!!.

@HifiVega

6 жыл бұрын

Sir. Thomas Danielle Van Winkle those were the days!

Those were the days....

@HifiVega

7 жыл бұрын

Anthony Lee Some might say the golden era of Car Audio!

Had to bring the contra code into the video. That's what got me to watch

@HifiVega

5 жыл бұрын

Robert Landis old school in many facets! Thanks for watching.

By any chance can you find me the Owners manual for furi ha 2300

@HifiVega

5 жыл бұрын

Jonathan Chavez nope... it’s getting harder to find that type of stuff

one of my best amps ive owned memphis ar-hc100

Great video. Can you tell me the song from the intro please? Thankyou

@HifiVega

8 жыл бұрын

+Kenneth Schoen Thanks! The song is called Surface by Aero Chord here is a link to the youtube video. kzread.info/dash/bejne/f6Vr1KWbfq2eepc.html

@kennethschoen7796

8 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much

AWESOME VIDEO

no mention of Phoenix gold or Zapco ?

@HifiVega

6 жыл бұрын

twistymcslide2 I definitely mentioned Phoenix Gold, but I didn’t call out a specific model. I didn’t have much experience with Zapco back in those days so I’m not as informed on their particular cheater amps from those days...

Great video

Good stuff...tnx!

My ßrothá, I’m 40 so I’m with ya on the ßeautiful “Cheater” amps!!! 0ldschool Punch 150HD❗️❗️❗️ I personally had it ran series/parallel to 12 Kicker comp ‘12’s in an ‘88 astrovan in Dayton,0HIGH0 🙊

@HifiVega

6 жыл бұрын

Robert Rohrer yeah man! The good old days!

@HOHOHOMOFOS

4 жыл бұрын

I live in dayton ohio lol

@robrohrer2014

4 жыл бұрын

sleepy addiction follow then, iv beenthe since 2001. I’m hanging on in Huber now (currently) small-world my posts are either NASCAR or Comedy related. Subscribe & laugh🤔

@robrohrer2014

4 жыл бұрын

I did know of a Kat that had 6 “18’s in West Dayton but I’ll leave him nameless. Back in the early/mid 9o’s lol

@HOHOHOMOFOS

4 жыл бұрын

@@robrohrer2014 he own a audio shop ? cause I think i know who you talking bout

KICKER ZR1000. Don't know if it's a "cheater amp" but one bad ass power house.

@HifiVega

5 жыл бұрын

Steve C that amp did nearly double rated!

My 98 S.S RUBICON 1002 IS RATED 200X2 AT 4 (14.4) little less at 12volt ,and 500x2 at 2 ohm stereo or 1000 x1 at 2 or 4 ohm

@HifiVega

6 жыл бұрын

Scott Miller I loved the old school soundstreams! They made a few cheaper amps themselves.

I got an old mtx blue thunder pro 754 thats suoer heavy and so loud. People have told me it's a cheater amp

You forgot about the Lanzar 50c ultra high current amp.

What about the zed audio hifinics amps 🙈

@HifiVega

5 жыл бұрын

arthur33 camaro yep they had some great ones as well! The P225hc and the Ulysses to name a few.

You forgot to mention the high voltage amps. They were rated at 12v and would double in power at 16+ volts.

Augh... If I was at that time, I already had alot of great stories to say to this generation! I mean, they should know how hard it was to get a 'decent' amp at the time.

I did not know this, they are callrd cheater amps because you would use a cheater amp in a certain category and actually be above its class. 🤙Cool

@HifiVega

6 жыл бұрын

Xesar Rx yeah it was crazy back then! Thanks for watching.

My fockford died a few months back after many many MANY years if good service. I intend repairing it as the pioneer that's stepped in as a support amp does not sound half as clear as the rockford did.

@HifiVega

5 жыл бұрын

Steve Fox RF has always been solid

@Nothingtoya

4 жыл бұрын

Fix it

Could you please tell us about the PPI arts series.

@primocazares2986

4 жыл бұрын

the truth Skarbage 😂

@adamslemp9398

4 жыл бұрын

PPI like Orion and a few others would double their power when dropping impedence. My brother and I saved and bought an Orion 2150SX in the mid 90's man what a great amp

i use to have the Orion 97.3 great amp to say the least

@The300ZXGuru

3 жыл бұрын

also had signed amps from Carolyn from PPI

@The300ZXGuru

3 жыл бұрын

also had PG cheater amps as well

I wonder about my oldschool power akoustik amp, it's rated at 400watts peak so I assumed 200watts rms at 4ohms bridged, but at 4ohms it made around 180watts rms.. at 11.2-11.8volts from a crappy little computer power supply that used to have a 14amp cutoff "it cut off until it died, I played with it and almost got killed, then it got stuck in the on position so it doesn't kick off, even turned over a starter to test it with it XD" but I do take it easy with the amp and not try to push the ratings, lowest I've taken it to is 3.25ohms bridged on 2 6.5ohm subs in paralell, and it rattled our skulls in my friends car... I still need to get a car to test stuff in x.x

@HifiVega

6 жыл бұрын

Matthew19002 some of those old PA amps were pretty solid.

@theejoeylee

6 жыл бұрын

I had one in the 90"s that was long with a see thru-top or bottom (forget) and had 2 VU meters on top. It ripped the spider off the cone on my JL w4's.

I jus bought sherwood today 😅🔥

I mean EVERY amplifier works that way because ohms law says so, although those.. 1/2& 1/4 ohm loads would typically put a "normal" amp into protection real quick, the amplifiers that can handle those loads isn't very accurate or high quality In its reproduction. This is why I've never liked spl, it's just not a high quality system, and nowhere near as expensive or difficult to build As a Sq system IMHO

@HifiVega

3 жыл бұрын

SQ is tough and they only labeled them cheaters back in the day because of the class designations