I laughed so hard when he said “ aah yes, the old throw the dust in the eyes of a rhino trick” Brilliant!

@GeoPePeTto

18 күн бұрын

I never understood this scenes. The wall was there before he threw dust in its face. He was going full speed anyway. Absurd, but entertaining nonetheless.

@RobertOlds.630

18 күн бұрын

It's entertainment. People don't pay money to be educated. For most folks I've met, the Hollywood version is good enough.

@jakobquick6875

17 күн бұрын

In the movie they explain… How Romes A.I. Came up with that defensive tactic… Works every time, every generation😂 Bloodsport…wait…didnt work😢 made him STRONGER somehow😅

@luckyspurs

17 күн бұрын

Film turned into James and the Giant Peach for 5 seconds.

@wambokodavid7109

14 күн бұрын

@@luckyspurs ahhh... someone who remembers that classic ✌🏿✌🏿

I think the North Africa bit was in Egypt. Just a vibe i was getting... Ok maybe the pyramids in the background gave it away

@eyepatchpirate7726

20 күн бұрын

haha

@dlpaul345

20 күн бұрын

pyramids were/are in more places than Egypt

@LydiotGamingTV

20 күн бұрын

Tbh I thought is was the same place as in the first movie, look at the arena there and compare it to the one from the first movie. Looks pretty darn similar. So I'd wager Numidia, maybe Lybia.

@TheOrangeRoad

20 күн бұрын

Yeah I wasn't quite sure if he was doing a bit here or something

@wthilmi

20 күн бұрын

it might be the pyramid in Bosnia 🗿

(Rhino Enters) “Right. Okay. Yes. Um. Sooo…” British Historian Ennui summed up in one moment 😂

@MK-gv1wd

20 күн бұрын

I burst out laughing at the rhinos too. I think I'll have to get SUPER DRUNK to watch it for funsies.

@travisspazz1624

19 күн бұрын

Ridley wanted rhinos and the original. Cool full circle moment.

@user-xx6vy9ri8p

17 күн бұрын

Someone watched Black panther...

@Marveryn

15 күн бұрын

@@user-xx6vy9ri8p believe me if they could had figure out how to ride rhino the same way they figure out how to domesticate elephants. we would had rhino calvery.

I don't really get Caracalla's depiction. He was supposed to be a soldier Emperor who had little patience for politics and the court. The whole reason he was regarded as a bad Emperor was because he lavished the military, and absconded his duties as Emperor to go on campaign all the time. The depiction we see here looks more like John Hurt's Caligula from I, Claudius.

@BruceBoyde

20 күн бұрын

It also just doesn't look anything like the depictions we have. While his general "gruffness" might have been exaggerated, he has a beard in every single adult depiction I could find.

@MK-gv1wd

20 күн бұрын

i love the Severan dynasty because of their chaos, but yeah, this depiction is not... great.... But Ridley Scott is just not great at accuracy.

@Horus1688

20 күн бұрын

@@MildPsychedelic I think you mean "eschewed" where you said "absconded"

@ThutUPB

20 күн бұрын

If this was Elagabalus, then maybe ok...

@MK-gv1wd

20 күн бұрын

@@ThutUPB Literally when I first saw the pics, I thought for sure one of them was Elagabalus. I don't follow any kind of entertainment news so I had no idea what the plan was. it confused me a lot when I saw one of them was Caracalla.

As much as I roll my eyes at sharks in the naumachia scene, I feel confident that the romans would've absolutely put sharks in if they could've. Edit: I'm going to summarize the point that everyone is making below. While there are great white sharks in Mediterranean. They had no way of transporting and sustaining sharks at that time, considering how difficult it is to transport large sharks using today's technology. Additionally, the colosseum was filled with fresh water from the Tiber, not sea water as Rome is not a coastal city. Saltwater fish have evolved to deal with sea water's high salt content by constantly drinking the water and excreting the excess salt through their gills and urine. This is the exact opposite adaptation used in freshwater fish which are trying to conserve the salt they collect. Putting a shark in freshwater would cause it to lose all its salt and die, and one of the few sharks that can survive in freshwater, the bull shark, isn't found along European coastlines and in the Mediterranean.

@Lame_Duck

20 күн бұрын

sharks with frickin' laser beams attached to their heads 😁😁😁

@MK-gv1wd

20 күн бұрын

i laughed so hard at the sharks. It was so stupid and awesome.

@olorin3815

20 күн бұрын

i imagine they filled water with aqueducts so idk if sharks would have survived

@kevinhurley6919

20 күн бұрын

It would be impossible for sharks to have been in the coloseum. The water came from aquaducts meaning its fresh water.

@kevinhurley6919

20 күн бұрын

​@@olorin3815it did come from aquaducts. It was the ones used to fill neros massive pool in front of his palace and after neros death the coloseum was built where the pool was. Archeologists have explored up the tunnel underneath the coloseum. Sharks would have died almost immediately

They need to do one of these “Historian Reacts” episodes for the Spartacus TV series, and then just show him every sex scene out of context and out of order.

@carlyalakija4703

19 күн бұрын

They need Kate Lister as well for that

@richardbradley2335

19 күн бұрын

i wasnt interested in watching the arena series but after they escaped i loved it.

@OgYokYok

19 күн бұрын

@@richardbradley2335 The only drawback in the show was the real-life death of the hottest man on the planet. Aside from that, the show was way better than it had any business being. Quality throughout including the final season, makes it better than GoT in my book.

@richardbradley2335

19 күн бұрын

@@OgYokYok GoT...over praised...it relied on sheer nastiness at times...guts /c word etc.

@trubblegum5787

17 күн бұрын

Sooo many dongs...

Ridley Scott is the biggest hack going. Whatever magic he managed to make with the original gladiator he's long since lost, this looks even more stupid than Napoleon

@JayzsMr

19 күн бұрын

I mean he is almost 90 , for sure everything he once had is long gone

A prequel would have been better about Maximus and his origins to becoming a general.

@TobyLarwood

19 күн бұрын

Yes, yes ,yes ,yes Brilliant idea.

@toffeechad8413

15 күн бұрын

nah couldnt care less, tired of prequals. just leave it alone like it should always have been.this film is everything bad about modern movies in a nutshell.lazy and actors taking a quick cash grab.

Gladiator didn't need a second movie.

@paillette2010

19 күн бұрын

@@johnsontamati8991 it barely needed a first

@David0Perez0

19 күн бұрын

At leastvthey have done an smart historical based story and didn't resucitate the main character like in sooo many other movies that everybody watched (avengers, Fast&F, extraction, john wick anybody?)

@ihavegymnastics

19 күн бұрын

Exactly.

@hello7032

19 күн бұрын

I mean sure but we also didn’t need a first. But fuck it, rule of cool applied

@JZsBFF

19 күн бұрын

There's nothing to add to the first, so I guess that it's just free-riding on the success of the title of the first. Most of the public aren't very picky anyway. Let's hope the production can survive on its own merits. Historical accuracy isn't an issue so for those who care about that, choose to pay the ticket anyway and are disappointed only have themselves to blame.

"Excuse me, mate, were you there? No? Well, shut the fuck up then." - Ridley Scott

The 'mound of mud with sticks on the side' is also commonly present in Egypt as rural pigeon coops. Still used till today

@rajeshVengadesan

15 күн бұрын

So Egyptians pegion coups are more sophisticated than african ,rings tombs

@ArseniyShved

13 күн бұрын

as hinted by the Pyramids just behind the 'sticky mud', there is a possibility it IS Egypt =)))

I am so glad that trailers now tell me when they start. Previously I would click on one and an ad would play. This would confuse me to no end. "Why are they wearing Hokas in Ancient Rome? Do the characters in A Quiet Place only use meal delivery services?"

Until Spielberg’s Stanley Kubrick Napoleon series comes out, I’ve just given up all hope. I still think Dan Snow secretly wants to punch Ridley Scott in the face for duping him and all of us into having any shimmer of hope for Napoleon to be accurate in any way prior to it’s release.

@LannLannister

19 күн бұрын

Nobody cares about any of that 😂 spielberg is trash, and Napoleon wasn't supposed to be a history channel episode anyway.

@mozer8035

18 күн бұрын

Yesss !!! I held off to excitedly watch Napoleon and it was soooo horrible I just lost interest and didn't even finish the last third of the film. It reminded me of that Rock me Amadeus vibe. This looks at least equally as bad.

@LannLannister

18 күн бұрын

@@mozer8035 when your level of Cinema is Teletubbies & Finding Nemo, of course it's bad 😂 embarrassing to say the least. Go sleep

"I wonder if it's a nod to the historical..." It isn't. It's what Ridley Scott had laying about.

Cassius Dio is also known for a collection of poems called "Holius Diveus".

@MarkBeezBlogs

17 күн бұрын

😂

@jliller

14 күн бұрын

Qui rokit rokes?

I have a feeling Pedro and Denzel will do their best to carry this movie, but it'll probably struggle to be good and get a Napoleon like criticism for Scott again.

@coldworld5

19 күн бұрын

Denzel is playing Denzel. Terrible choice.

@thunderboltproductionsshpk

19 күн бұрын

​@@coldworld5i love Ridley and im all in for this, but yeah, denzel is a terrible choice unfortunately...his mannerism and facial expressions are phenomenal, the problem is when he talks, like wth?!

@dguthrie1

19 күн бұрын

@@coldworld5man shut up

@Nickeltony

18 күн бұрын

I highly doubt that

@evanwalker3513

15 күн бұрын

You underestimate Paul Mescal. He’s a legitimately great actor and will be a star if this movie does well at the box office.

The real question is do the sharks have fricking laser beams?

@digitaljanus

15 күн бұрын

Of course, Caracalla believes every animal deserves a warm meal!

@richdaley9982

12 күн бұрын

No but they arrive via tornado.

Rhino's can barely see, so why would you use sand to blind it? Maybe I misinterpreted the scene.

I think Ridley Scott's issue is he hasn't adapted to the fact that pretty much everyone who's going to watch this movie has access to all the knowledge of the universe in their pockets. Gone are the days that you just rolled with what you saw on a film, because you didn't have all ten volumes of "The History of Rome" to fact check, and he needs to understand that dumb, jarring historical inaccuracies really takes people out of the experience and ruins what could be an incredible film, with amazing bits of subtle historical detail (like HBO Rome). I'm sure Ridley also has the knowledge of the universe in his pocket, so it just comes across as lazy when he willingly ignores these things.

I can see the pitch to Denzel - "So Denzel, you'll be playing Macrinus, he becomes emperor after the death of Caracalla". "Great, so is he a great sexy, brooding military hero?" "Not quite - he was Caracalla's principal financial officer on campaign and became emperor after murdering Caracalla while Caracalla was on the toilet." “Hmm - rewrite that”.

Do we know for certain Ridley Scott didn't just get Caligula and Caracalla mixed up. Given the casting.

@theblackpearl8632

3 күн бұрын

Very Caligula-esque, right?

Hollywood never gets history right. Even the original Gladiator was full of mistakes and nonsense but at least it looked good, had compelling characters and was entertaining. Now even entertainment is outside of Hollywood's wheelhouse.

@ISawABear

19 күн бұрын

Alexander would like to have a word.

@abedmick2267

14 күн бұрын

Bro at least watch the movie

I will remain very skeptical after seeing Napoleon. The trailer for Napoleon made the movie to look better than it actually was. That movie had so much potential and most of it was based off of his relationship with Josephine. So disappointed in that. When a movie comes out on one of the greatest military strategists of all time, we expect more battle scenes than the small clips we got in that movie. At the end of that movie, I honestly wanted my money back. Lol I really hope Gladiator II makes up for it. 🤞

@cardroid8615

20 күн бұрын

@@1chadbook you're going to be so very disappointed

@jplonsdale7242

20 күн бұрын

I switched Napoleon off more woke tripe

@themouthofsauron6926

19 күн бұрын

Definitely made Josephine look far more important than she actually was.

@wallythewondercorncake8657

19 күн бұрын

And the battle scenes were awful too.

@LannLannister

19 күн бұрын

Battle scenes were absolutely EPIC and stunning, visually speaking that movie was top tier level, cinematography, colour grading, superbly directed from a technical point of view, sure the writing was not as good as the visuals but those 3/4 battles were epic to see on screen nonetheless. Gladiator II looks epic too, lets hope the writing is alla par with the visuals.

The next epic by Ridley Scott is the life of Ragnar lothbrok, and in it, he has a flying unicorn that he flies over the saxons shitting red hot skittles while shouting WHAKANDA FOREVER

@valeforyoru

20 күн бұрын

With Denzel Washington as Ragnar, Netflix standards for historical accuracy

@shardovl586

20 күн бұрын

Probably be more true to life than Robin Hood and this money grab will likely be the same

@drewfischer316

20 күн бұрын

I want that movie

@welshman8954

20 күн бұрын

​@@drewfischer316sadly me too 😂😂

@austin8775

20 күн бұрын

Only slightly more exaggerated than the actual Ragnar Lothbrok😂

I might criticize the criticism. Even at the beginning Tristan is being very careful. He does not want to dismiss the intended africanism. The Romans living in Africa (which is a Latin word) lived as Romans. They would have built Roman structures and lived in Roman ways. What is associated with Black Africa today was not there and still is not. In fact the Moslem Arabs living there today are very anti-black and do not have any sort of architecture that resembles anything from south of the Sahara. This africanism is more for the American audience. The Romans in northern Africa were very Roman. In fact they maintained speaking Latin and many other Latin customs when the Romans in Latium or the area around Rome had been somewhat Hellenized.

@smyers9052

17 күн бұрын

Most of the people living in Roman North Africa were either Punic descendants of the Phoenicians or Berbers, neither of which would be Black populations, though there would have been Black Africans as well. And yes, Romans living as Romans. North Africa was and is a multiethnic, multiracial mixing pot. There is anti-Black racism in that part of the world now, but it’s not because Black people are absent from that part of the world. Cursory review of the history would teach you this.

@wambokodavid7109

15 күн бұрын

How can u be so wrong and loud at the same time😂😂the very building style u see ha called Egypt (which aint).the ones with sticks pointing out is actually a west african style that extends up north.also arabs only built mosques and bazars but most of thm live in tents....i get the "blacks"put u off but try to keep it in your pants

@smyers9052

15 күн бұрын

@@wambokodavid7109 You need to watch again. There are pyramids in the background. The pyramids that would have existed in Algeria at this time looked very different.

@smyers9052

15 күн бұрын

@@wambokodavid7109 Most Arabs do not live in tents. And West Africa is not the same as North Africa. Culturally or ethnically

@stephanottawa7890

15 күн бұрын

@@wambokodavid7109 Sorry to say that since your English is so poor and disorganized, I really cannot respond to what you are trying to say. Would you care to try again?

Somethings should be left alone.

@SterfGoogle

20 күн бұрын

That's what I'm thinking, yeah..

@TheOrangeRoad

20 күн бұрын

I said that after watching Prometheus.

@TheSquad4life

20 күн бұрын

I agree , leave that classic alone . Maybe make another movie set in that era but not a part 2

@fleatight8221

20 күн бұрын

There was a slave riot in rome 73 B.C. most people know the name of the "leader" of this riot, Spartacus. This could be a very interesting topic, even though it is a bit earlier. In those times the romans had a few slave riots, Spartacus was only the most famous I belive, so lots of potential stories, even with a relatively similar premise.

@asterixdogmatix1073

20 күн бұрын

@@fleatight8221 Why tell the Spartacus story again? The Kirk Douglas movie and more recent raunchy TV series has already been done.

I'm not going to pretend that I know anything about the Roman Empire becase I don't, however I love Gladiator (it's my 3rd favorite film of all time and I was done watching it through for the seventh time before ths trailer came out) it's one of the most beautiful films ever made. I am also very into films and story structures as well as detailed critisizm. After watching this trailer twice, in my own opinion (compared to it's predecessor) this looks like absoulute glossed up nonsense which is sad because thats a harsh truth that adorns many modern films. The first film (while by no means historically accurate in any regard) was perfectly fit together into a masterpiece. The cinematogrophy, the composition, the locations, the dilouge, the goals and intentions, the theme, the characterisation and the music (I listen to Now we are free at least once every day it's such a beautiful piece of music, speaking of which who puts a slowed rapper's corus as the theme to a trailer about the Roman Empire) it all just fits together like a jigsaw creating a perfect image, one of a Father/Husband's undbounded love for his Wife and Son. This just looks like they took all the epicness, special effects, CGI and Sound effects they had availble and crammed it all into the same jar and forced the lid on. Now I obviously haven't seen the film, none of us have yet. But based on what this trailer is offering for the film, it feels dissapointing. P.S When the Gladiator riding the Rhino entered the frame, I was laughing histerically because it felt like the Tigris of Ghaul from the first movie (don't worry I know that he is probably dead by this point) walked back into the Colleseum and was like 'Hello boys, I'M BACK!!'.

Am I the only one confused by a historian not noticing Denzel incorrectly using the term 'Colosseum' in the trailer? No one at that time would've called it that, as it was known as the Flavian Amphitheater to them.

@TheSquad4life

20 күн бұрын

Oh yeah I caught that too but just an over sight 🤷‍♂️

@websurfer8670

20 күн бұрын

The general public dont know what the fuck that means

@gradynick

19 күн бұрын

Why would it be referred to as something that no one in the audience would recognize?

@Panthror

19 күн бұрын

I get why in the movie they would call it the Colosseum, the point is that the historian didn't talk about its actual name.

@ALT3REDB3AST

16 күн бұрын

And yet Proximo called it the coliseum in the first movie. Just stop.

Tristan on the previous video: "just don't do naval battle re-enactments in the Colosseum". Oh.

Didn't realise they had diesel back then. Useful for the explosions though.

@swunt10

4 күн бұрын

It's called greek fire.

@user-sf4io3tp8l

5 сағат бұрын

@@swunt10 not with romans at that tim this aint eastern roman empire aka Byzantium

So originally Joseph Quinn was playing Caracalla BUT 3 weeks ago the names without any announcements got switched because the IDMB/interviews got changed and personally I still think he’s technically playing Caracalla because he seems more psychotic and more like the one controlling the empire compared to Fred Hechinger who just seems happy to be there (I mean did replace Barry Keoghan)

@ethancoster1324

18 күн бұрын

Would make sense given Quinn is the older of the two.

@sebastianmaharg

12 күн бұрын

I agree, but it was clearly stated in the Vanity Fair piece. I doubt they got that wrong.

macrinus was of berber ancestry, he was not subsaharan African.

@PoloGo

17 күн бұрын

It's that descriptor "African" that they continue to distort; they have done the same with Augustine of Hippo.

@d-SonOfWill

17 күн бұрын

Except he didn’t say he was from subsaharan African. He said he was from North Africa and Cherchell Algeria is where Macrinus is believed to have been born.

@smyers9052

17 күн бұрын

@@d-SonOfWillI think the complain here is that Algerian Berbers overwhelmingly do not look like this. Quickly googling Algerian Amizagh and reading about the history of the Berber people, and the genetic history of North Africa more broadly is worthwhile. Casting him as a Black man is as inaccurate as casting him as a Swede. The notion that indigenous African people are by necessity “Black” is just another example of Western ignorance.

@markmorris7123

16 күн бұрын

​@@smyers9052but wasn't North Africa more black at this time,,, Pre Arab conquest?? I don't know,, just guessing

@smyers9052

16 күн бұрын

@@markmorris7123 It was less Black because before the Arab conquest was also before the Islamic slave trade. Of course, it depends on where you’re talking about. Mauritania is North Africa, as I understand that and to an extent parts of Morocco have always been more of a mix. But the ancestral Berber population is not Black. Their ancestors - who are best represented by the Guanches of the Canary Islands - migrated back to Africa much later in human history. If you look up the Canary Islanders or the Amizagh of Algeria or Tunisia - who are not Arab - you’ll have a good sense for what I’m referring to. The Arab conquest brought a ton of population churn to North Africa and the Sahel, as did colonialism. Those were major factors in bringing more ethnic diversity to North Africa. Of course, there have always been Black people in those places as well, don’t misunderstand. But the genetic record shows less, not more, in ancient times.

After Napoleon I’m expecting to see Lucius with a laptop and a mobile phone!

I knew there were going to be problems as soon as I heard that they were making a sequel. Scott already went off the historical rails by having young Lucius Verus still alive. He died very young, before Commodus became emperor. Never mind the historical inaccuracy of Commodus' death. And I was certain that there was no way Scott (and screenwriter David Scarpa who helped Scott turn Naopleon's story into a romance) was going to do justice to the Year of Five Emperors or the end result being the short-lived but at least longer Severan dynasty.

Total war shoutout

This is going to be Gladiator: Covenant.

@user-wi6cz4hh5b

14 күн бұрын

Lol

How on earth would the Romans have been able to transport sharks and keep them alive during that time?

@AlexanderTullis

15 күн бұрын

Hey, they created cement and greek fire, I don't doubt anything

@abedmick2267

14 күн бұрын

They put them in their water channels and ride them because it's cool

@CrypidLore

13 күн бұрын

It's actually a little known fact that the Romans revolutionized the study of marine biology.

@nigelnyoni8265

7 күн бұрын

If you take this approach to watch films I'm afraid you're robbing yourself of great joy.

@Ash_Hudson

7 күн бұрын

@@nigelnyoni8265 I'm not a historical accuracy nerd. I'm able to suspend disbelief, but this is a genuine question I'm asking. If this actually happened, then how?

Joesph Quinn is indeed playing Caracalla. Fred Hechinger plays Geta.

@ethancoster1324

18 күн бұрын

And yet on IMDB it's the other way around? A typo perhaps?

@travisspazz1624

18 күн бұрын

@@ethancoster1324 interesting, got my info on the letterboxd page.

@sebastianmaharg

12 күн бұрын

Not according to the Vanity Fair "first look" editorial.

Golden armour I could understand, but why are Caracalla and Geta wearing such gawdy makeup?

@sebastianmaharg

12 күн бұрын

I think R. Scott wants to blend them into the character of emperor Elagabalus.

@theblackpearl8632

3 күн бұрын

Its possibly also a nod to the madness of the film 'Caligula'

most people would assume the 1:42 part to be in Egypt due to the pyramids in the background

I was half expecting Denzel to be Septimius Severus tbh

@Joel-bg3cf

20 күн бұрын

Netflix gladiator

@icemanespoo2977

20 күн бұрын

Then you cound not have really white guys portraying his sons. Considering what has been written about the two emperors background the casting looks weird. Why not cast actors that would look believable if you claim them to be historical figures?

@jangosavdjdubsak1079

20 күн бұрын

The Black Pope

@seanbinkley7363

20 күн бұрын

@@icemanespoo2977 Yeah, all folks have to do is google "the Severan tondo" to see what the two brothers Carcalla and Geta would have looked like. Call me crazy but I'm skeptical a North African man and a Syrian woman would have two produced two pasty blond English boys.

@LydiotGamingTV

20 күн бұрын

It get's more and more confusing because the timeline is the last thing they care about.

Fairly confident that Pedro and Paul will team up against their true foe

Used to like some of the old Roman epics, even though they were almost always psuedo-biblical stories where Romans played the a+holes, but the spectacle could be entertaining. I like the new direction where the fascination is with the Romans, and we don't have to wait for the scene where everybody has to stop, stare, fall to their knees and start crying because Jesus just strolled by.

I am so glad you guys made this video! Was hoping you would

I fear this will change peoples perception of the original Gladiator which should have been left to age like a fine wine, It didn't need a sequel.

Can't see another comment addressing this but amphitheatre in trailer has wooden poles on it for canvas that the Romans hung between the poles for shade, so it's a trivial thing but I'm disappointed they did not hang canvas.

As with all historical blockbuster movies, the historical accuracy is all over the place. Best to think of them as alternative history or being in a parallel universe. I find it helps

Just what Tristan wanted.......naval battles in the Colosseum!!!!

@nevisstkitts8264

19 күн бұрын

Echoes of water world

@luckyspurs

17 күн бұрын

First thing I thought. It's literally in the first minute of the trailer.

Maybe the Greek helmet and siege tower on the ship were specific to please the emperors, given the fascination with Alexander. And if it’s not a named battle the organisers could and would, presumably, borrow from any period of their history. Them’s my theories and I’ll happily believe them when I’m watching the film. I can’t wait either! 😊

Great t-shirt, where you get it?

I want to watch a film that depicts that construction of an ancient coliseum. That would be sick!

Riddle Scot will probably tell you to get a life for that

@Yuuki_Asuna

20 күн бұрын

I mean this is not a documentary, so wanting a history lesson is just plain stupid

@cinematography513

19 күн бұрын

​@@Yuuki_Asunaagreed, people don't even know what "entertainment" is nowadays. Im Italian and i saw the first Gladiator when it came out, we all knew it wasn't historical or any of that, just nobody cared and everyone enjoyed it.

12:32 - "Ah, yes, the throw dust infront of the rhino trick".

When asked about historical accuracy Ridley Scott replied - "You weren't there" :D xD

the rome 2 total war gastraphetes throwback made me crack up. i imediately thought of that. hahahah

I hate when the pyramids get into walking around North Africa getting all in movies

@Sanj1n

20 күн бұрын

I believe it’s for general audiences to understand that the scene is taking place in North Africa

Ridley should have left it alone. Gladiator is one of my favorite movies of all time and really did not need a sequel -especially one with Pedro Pascal! I am unable to understand the fascination with this dude but he is not an epic heavy-hitter!!! I'll watch the movie and reserve my judgement (as I did in Napoleon) so we shall see...Iacta Alea Est!

@hughjass8430

20 күн бұрын

It's just name recognition. Pascal is hot shit at the moment, last of us etc, so hea going to get picked for big roles

Love your podcast and thanks for this commentary!

I love how this guy is very down to earth and isn't snarky or pessimistic against movies like this just because of the historical inaccuracy, I do appreciate historical accuracy, but this is still entertainment and you should view it as such, u'll have way more fun ;)

@TheSquad4life

20 күн бұрын

Yes he’s been gracious and that’s difficult for lots of academics

@hannibalb8276

19 күн бұрын

​@@TheSquad4life no its not

@luckyspurs

17 күн бұрын

I do think sadly they were wrong at the end of the last video when they said it was be a box office hit. But yes, like the optimism.

How would the Romans have caught and transported live sharks ? The Colosseum was also fresh water not salt. Records indicate they may have had Crocodiles in the water though.

@whyjnot420

20 күн бұрын

Fresh water will not kill a saltwater species immediately just because it swims in it. It will end up causing it, but not immediately. Also, freshwater sharks are very much a thing. Not giant great white looking sharks, but still freshwater sharks do very much exist.

@edwardfletcher7790

20 күн бұрын

@@whyjnot420 I'm Australian, I know several species are capable of tolerating brackish water. How do you think the Romans caught and transported large sharks 2000yrs ago in oxygenated salt water without killing them ? Think about it, it's even difficult NOW !!

@PortilloMoment

20 күн бұрын

@@whyjnot420 They do indeed exist. However, many sharks are notoriously fragile in terms of transportation and the Bull Shark, the only shark that fits the bill (maneater, freshwater tolerant) is found quite some way from Rome, the closest being parts of the Persian Gulf and off the coast of what is now Morocco and Western Sahara. Not that Rome didn't get around - we know there were animal catching expeditions that went past Roman boundaries - but this is too much of a stretch. The crocodile thing is correct though (I think) but it's 30 years or more since I was at uni.

@edwardfletcher7790

20 күн бұрын

@@PortilloMoment Thank you for the extra detail. I didn't bother typing it all out, as I sensed I was talking to someone who had a very poor grasp of the logistics..

@whyjnot420

20 күн бұрын

@@PortilloMoment Yeah, the transportation aspect is the real kicker. I completely agree with questioning that part of the movie, hence why I didn't touch it.

also that gladius that pedro pascal is showing at 14:39 is a little too thin in my opinion , it looks like the fulham pattern but still looks too thin

Don’t be surprised when battle scenes last 30 seconds 😂😂

ironically they jumped the shark with riding a rhino!

There is a list of Roman emperors in Wikipedia, with their busts, and it is clear that Geta was not a child when he was killed by his older brother Karakala. Geta was 22 when he was killed. Also a look at the Macrinus bust tells us that he was caucasian.

@blurkid33

16 күн бұрын

Cassius Dio described him as a “moor”.

@martinvulu1848

16 күн бұрын

What race was 'Draba' in Spartacus? Or how about Juba in the OG with Crowe? Oh yeah, they were characters in WORKS of FICTION so them not being Italian wouldn't matter.

How difficult was it to replace Sharks with Nile crocs??

@jliller

14 күн бұрын

In 211 AD? Impossible. Ancient Egypt didn't produce croslite.

The first Gladiator movie was such a enjoyable watch and a stand-alone film with a distinct ending but I suppose with todays lack of originality and penchant for sequels we can't be surprised at another one.

"Probably Numidia" - seemingly ignores the giant pyramids in the background.... ;P

@gorkat260

19 күн бұрын

It does not necessarily mean the same scene location. As not every city or town is always Rome.

@smyers9052

17 күн бұрын

In the movie, it is Numidia

@carlhassler5336

17 күн бұрын

@@smyers9052 Ah of course, its right by the Giza-level pyramids in Numidia,. I can't believe i forgot those.....

@smyers9052

17 күн бұрын

@@carlhassler5336 Lol, I don’t have an explanation for the pyramids in the background of that shot. But what I can tell you is that a cursory review of the film’s plot will make it clear that, in fact, the story does take place in Numidia.

@carlhassler5336

16 күн бұрын

@@smyers9052 I can understand that The province of Numidia (being right next to the province of Africa proconsularis; the home province of the Septimians) would heavily feature in the movie. But it having any pyramids seems dubious. If these movie producers want to show any semblance of historicity then I hope to god this particular scene is unrelated and does not depict Numidia.

Loved it! Learned a lot, thanks!

Love Tristan and the Ancients! Love these reactions! I can't believe they made a sequel to Gladiator. I'm excited to see it!

Awesome video. You look so excited. Love it.

No it’s not North Africa it’s the kush empire which is now modern day Sudan situated on the coast of the Red Sea.

@smyers9052

17 күн бұрын

In the context of the film, it is North Africa

Now I want to see a historian reacting to total war games.

‘Connie Neilson reprising her role.’ My favourite part of the whole video, I think.

my question is more, why they changed the face of young lucius?!?!?

@TobyLarwood

19 күн бұрын

Yeah I know, I would love to know their thought process when thay did that. Also it shows Lucius walking out of the Collesseum with Lucilla when in the movie he leaves Lucilla in the Collesseum and follows the Guards carrying Maximus' body out of the arena.

@valentintapata2268

18 күн бұрын

Damnatio memoriae = condemnation of memory

@TobyLarwood

18 күн бұрын

@@valentintapata2268 Ah ok, intresting

Unless I missed it, Pedro's facial hair wasn't discussed. I always thought Romans thought facial hair and long hair was barbaric and kept their hair short and beards shaved, no?

@GhastlyCretin

20 күн бұрын

Well, when he's talking about the father of the brothers who ruled together they show a bust of their father and he has a full beard. See 6:35. I suppose this is late Roman history so the fashions may have changed by then so what you're saying might be correct about an earlier period.

@JayzsMr

19 күн бұрын

Not by this period, lots of emperors with beards at that time

Well the costumes are one of the first wrong things, yikes. We all know that they didn't wear leather that was black or white like that. Just absurd.

@trudibrown4772

20 күн бұрын

I was also intrigued by the two brothers wearing heavy make up. I know ancient Egyptian men wore cosmetics, but have never heard of Roman men doing the same.

I'm glad you admit that this is Hollywood entertainment. If anyone out there really thought Gladiator was a documentary, they are really gullible. Same goes for Gladiator II. Probably will be entertaining, but not accurate as history.

@feibdegrassi1646

19 күн бұрын

A movie can be entertaining and historical accurate. History itself is pretty much entertaining without change it.

@dalic24

19 күн бұрын

I bet it's gonna be a shit show like napoleon

Hollywood really scraping the barrel these days 😂. No talent in creative writing at all.

4:20 I'll forgive the film all of its historical goofs (of which there will be plenty, I'm sure) if during that naumachia-scene one of the emperors complains that they couldn't give him sharks with frickin' lasers on their heads.

Good to see a mandalororian in the arena

Brilliant video, thank you. When I saw the water filled Colosseum, I was "yeah right, they had to do something this inaccurate...". And it's historically accurate, at least partially! And a friend of mine was certain the rhino scene was true of those times and we learn no, not quite like depicted here. So without your video, we would have been very wrong about the trailer.

"in ny nerdy ways" -- thanks Tristan for representing all us armchair historians so well with this and our collective head-shaking throughout the trailer

He's a fan of Total War. Cool.

Numidians were not sub-saharan black, they would resemble modern day Algerians/Amazigh

@websurfer8670

20 күн бұрын

No such thing as subsahran black

@jimmyfingers227

20 күн бұрын

He's as much of an historian as I'm astronaut.

@MISSGATCHINHA

20 күн бұрын

there are also the tuaregs tho

@mrdeurknopp

20 күн бұрын

There were plenty of black Africans living in North Africa back then, there still are plenty still living in North Africa today, have a look at the Berbers for instance. North African demographics have been drastically altered by many events since that time, the Arab incursions for instance had a huge influence, populations would have been more diverse.

@tlilmiztli

19 күн бұрын

@@mrdeurknopp The only problem is - we know exactly how Macrinus looked thanks to sculptures, coins... He didnt got black person features. Sure was probably dark skinned but looked nothing like Denzel. Funny you mentioned Berbers because Macrinus was indeed of that origin. And look how Berbers are portrait - they were not black - not all of them anyways. Neither Macrinus or King Massinissa whom Berbers consider their forefather looked black. I am sure Denzel will do a good job but fact is that black Macrinus is as truthful as riding rhinoceros.

Alonzo Harris went back in time to the Romans 😂😂😂

I think it is contender for comedy of the year, I laughed super hard at this.

Hahaha, if this film is terrible, then I think all the financiers of the movie might do a Caesar and Nero combined on Ridley Scott.😆🤣😂

I think its safe to say this wont be winning any Oscars.

Denzel is one of my favorite actors but.. "Once again, we're seeing historical blackwashing with the casting of Macrinus, a Roman emperor of Numidian (Amazigh) descent, being portrayed by a black actor" (I am North African)

@MISSGATCHINHA

20 күн бұрын

well a black complexion amazigh/berber is not out of the table tho if you look into the tuaregs but ye the person in question seemed to be of a more light complexion...

@ehsfb20011

19 күн бұрын

Someone said blacks appear in Morocco and Algeria. Most of those are descendants of black women brought to harems much later. Numidians would have looked like Algerians.

@JayzsMr

19 күн бұрын

North Africans get totally shafted by Hollywood for some reason even though the region was a big part to Mediterranean civilizations.

@d-SonOfWill

17 күн бұрын

Oh please, spare us that grandstanding pseudo-contrarian for the sake of contrarianism bs. There exists people of dark complexion from Algeria and Morocco, and the berbers were no exception to this with some having darker complexions going back to antiquity.

Ehm... Where else should it be, when we clearly see the pyramids of Giza? The only way I'd buy into that whole naval invasion thing is if that shows how Caracalla treated Alexandria when he arrived there in 215. He was pissed because the citizens of Alexandria mocked the way he treated Geta so he not only put to sword a delegation of prominent citizens that was welcoming him but let his army plunder the city for several days. To put that into perspective, Alexandria was the second largest city of the Empire. But with the way Hollywood "cares" about history, I'd be really really surprised if they'd even opened a fu*ing Wikipedia page about that period. If it's not Alexandria and if it truly is what some article I read few days back says, that this is somehow some last bastion of some unconquered North African civilization and that Rome is conquering it... I'm really lost for words. By 210s that whole region has been a Roman province for centuries. Even the bloody first movie is partially set there and it clearly acknowledges the fact, that that region is a Roman province. If they don't give a shit about the real history, can't they at least care about the continuity in their own freaking "franchise"? And please don't get me started on those sharks... Just add some velociraptors while you're at it.

interesting plot... although depiction of the emperors are way off.. Caracalla had Punic paternal ancestry & Arab maternal ancestry. His father (Septimius Severus) was born in Leptis Magna (today: Khoms, Libya) & his mother was born in Emesa (today: Homs, Syria). in the movie he looks like..... IDK... leprechauns...?🤭

@JayzsMr

19 күн бұрын

I mean you just have to look at Caracalla‘s bust . Looks very distinctively like a North African kind of guy

Im surprised nobody has either noted or put together that Denzel is portraying Macrinius. Probably the dispute between Macrinius and Caracalla after Caracalla has Geta assassinated.

Judging by all the stakes, I can only assume that the Tomb of Askia has the most powerful Vampire to ever live, buried inside it. 😄

TW: Rome 2 and Attila!!! Nice, those games are awesome!

So does it look like Gladiator II will be absent most of the historical clubs that plagued the first film? I know you can’t tell much from the trailer, but you should be able to get some idea of how historically accurate truly will be. I know that was a problem with the first one that historians their names removed credited as advisors to the filmmakers. Just wondering.

I don't know if Hans Zimmer was busy this time around or something, but I really hope the movie doesn't have rap music during the arena scenes. Hopefully that was just for the trailer while the score is being completed (fingers crossed). I don't dislike rap music or anything it just seems out of place here.

@noreligionisthebestreligion

20 күн бұрын

Well I don't think that ancient Roman music was close to Hans Zimmer either

@Nilboggen

19 күн бұрын

@@noreligionisthebestreligion That is actually a pretty good point.

@kassi420

19 күн бұрын

It’s just a trailer… the original trailer wasn’t Zimmer either they used Conan The Barbarian - The Anvil of Crom (I remember because when I heard the song playing with the Universal logo I thought they were going to show a trailer for Conan 3 then I saw Russell Crowe and I was like WTF…)

I doubt they'll go into it in this movie (maybe they will) but the Edict of Caracalla, also called the Antonine Constitution, was a major shift in Roman history because it extended citizenship to all free males across the entire Empire. Caracalla did it to increase the taxpayer base, and maybe also the pool available for service in legions. But some histories say it also diluted Roman citizenship and made it less of an exclusive benefit.

Yes, I agree with you, after watching Time team Tony Robinson and Mary Beard recount Roman Culture through every Emperor/Dictator and decade. and how Gladiator 1 was portrayed there are various parts of Roman recorded history mixed into this movie, but I'm excited to watch regardless of its inaccuracies as a combination of the past comes together in cinema, I am entertained.

Great Channel in the original Gladiator wasn't Lucius heir to the throne after Commodus for being the son of the emperor sister

10:10 doesn't that look like Rome in the background? I think the small arena must be a training ground or something. If it's that way makes for a nice accurate detail and could tie up pretty nicely with the risk of having them near the colosseum like in the first movie.